comment by orange sherbet (U21919)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Ibrox Elite (U5255)
posted 1 minute ago
https://twitter.com/bigernrfc/status/1098555183422939136?s=21
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That guys page is pretty embarassing to be fair! However seen this on it put up by William Hill.

"Just the 37 goal involvements for Morelos this season 🔥

Only Mbappe and Messi have more than him this season " ....this true?


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It’s on twitter so it must be true!

Dunno , seen similiar stats a few times so it could be. He’s certaibly our main man and involved in bulk of our goals so it prob is

comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 54 seconds ago
‘We hear and see sectarian songs, abuse and all sorts at games on a regular basis yet the SFA do absolutely nothing about it’

Clubs share the blame for that part as well.
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Both clubs (and one or two others) need to do more - the green brigade and from what I’ve heard from rangers fans the union bears need to be telt - plenty songs around to sing - not needing all the sectarian/ political shight.

I get it’s not easy as they’re mostly young and as a young guy I belted them all out from the jungle but times have changed and it’s no longer the norm.

I think more people need to acknowledge it’s not just arangers issue. Guys like Clark with his ill advised comments on the back of Sunday.

Rightly or wrongly gers fans will sing it if the other side is getting away with it and vice versa.

Then you’ve got the snp politicians teeetkng today about big bad rangers fans being sectarian yet not a peep from them in sunday when celts were singing shout orange bassa.

They also right up to ur level of the first minister herself condemning the Lennon coin throwing incident. Had she mentioned Boyd getting hit with a coin yet?

I don’t think it can be properly tackled when there’s these attitudes prevailant in Scottish society right up to political level

Just my personal opinion

I think most sane folk know both are guilty but misuse their position based on their own particular allegiance. IMHO any negative publicity is good - there’s a dup dude who’s forever slating Celtic fans for songs sung but has never acknowledged any issues at Ibrox - their all just faanies

comment by Foddy - make mine a double treble (U8028)
posted 1 minute ago
I think most sane folk know both are guilty but misuse their position based on their own particular allegiance. IMHO any negative publicity is good - there’s a dup dude who’s forever slating Celtic fans for songs sung but has never acknowledged any issues at Ibrox - their all just faanies
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I just think the Scottish government should be sane then!

They know their voters or more accurately, who probably doesn’t vote for them

Aye fair point

That deals with the snp politicians but what’s gping on with journos, managers et al is a mystery. Well apart from Clark given his obvious leanings.

Sone of the journos tweeting about it this morning have been left looking silly when they are asked to provide a similiar tweet from Sunday after the Celtic fans chanting.

IF we are serious about getting rid then it needs to be treated a bit more fair imo. That’s from reporting of it, dealing with it and acknowledging it across all section of society.

I don’t think you will ever eradicate it complexity but it’s defo got worse again after a few years where it maybe wasn’t as bad.

Yeh I agree it’s a wee bit worse again - I sit above the green brigade and st times a couple of years ago no dodgy songs were sung in games but now their back - club need to speaking to them

For me the incompetent refs responsibility lies with the SFA. The sectarian stuff lies with the clubs who should identify (using cctv) the neds and ban them for life. They should also be explicit in stating that singing about the Aye r ai or OB’s or King Billy or Derry’s walls etc is not acceptable and those found to do so will get a life ban. This is sadly the only way that morons will tie the line. Deary me

The referees is one thing, and they appear not fit for purpose. On the singing though, it really is just cringe. Took my dad to the Valencia game last week and having to explain to him what was being sung (he grew up about as far as you can get from the West of Scotland) was embarrassing. Clearly worse at away games, and both Rangers and Celtic have it in spades.

Was chatting to a couple mates about why it seems to have become worse in recent years:
a) social media lets these airheads interact 24/7, fuelling the views.
b) the removal of the legislation that was brought in by SNP to "ban" such singing.
c) the increased competitiveness of the Old Firm.
d) getting old and grumpier about such things

Probably a combination of all of the above.

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I don't mind the singing to an extent.

Some songs are a step too far clearly but i think a lot of them add to the atmosphere personally.

They've been there for a hundred years and to quote one of said songs, "they'll be there for 8 hundred more"

Anyone that thinks a keeper throwing an arm in someone’s face deliberately when the ball is no where near, isn’t a red card is simply wrong and needs to look at the rules.

The referees being poor is nothing new. Yet the timing of this whole thing funnily has all been in the two months after Rangers beat Celtic. Funny coincidence that eh.

The sectarian stuff needs to be cut out obviously but Clarke was close to tears fs. It’s nothing new, so don’t see why it’s surprising. Boyd even at the weekend said he can deal with chanting just not the coins.

comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 2 minutes ago
I don't mind the singing to an extent.

Some songs are a step too far clearly but i think a lot of them add to the atmosphere personally.

They've been there for a hundred years and to quote one of said songs, "they'll be there for 8 hundred more"


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It’s gone too far now and the bile needs to be stamped out. There are plenty of non sectarian songs that can be and are sung. Stick to these and there would be no folk getting verbally abused. 😀

Aye but the non-sectarian songs aren't toe tappers

comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 4 seconds ago
Aye but the non-sectarian songs aren't toe tappers
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Some are

comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 2 minutes ago
I don't mind the singing to an extent.

Some songs are a step too far clearly but i think a lot of them add to the atmosphere personally.

They've been there for a hundred years and to quote one of said songs, "they'll be there for 8 hundred more"


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Iv never really bothered with it either. 99% of the stuff celtic sing i do not know the words to. I understand that I might not be as offended as the average Joe however (my fathers side are all masons and my mothers side are RC's !) so maybe thats why I aint as sensitive to it.

The only song that really gets any emotion from me is the Ibrox disaster stuff (usually sung by Aberdeen fans). Other than that like I said doesnt really bother me. We aint all the same however and just cos it doesnt really offend me doesnt mean it wont offend others

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You only have to look at the bbc football homepage. Every game across Europe is talking about referees and dodgy Var and contentious decisions. Only in Scotland do we tie in religion or perceived bias to one team or another. Quite pathetic

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Posters on this thread with 10yo like claims of ‘bet his breath stinks’ that want racism taken seriously though?
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Oh sorry. I didn’t realise that me being against racism meant that I couldn’t make silly jokes anymore.

Non starter this banning the sectarian stuff because quite simply the clubs refuse to accept any penalties as a result of it. So no fines, no point deductions can take place without the clubs agreeing.

Which they have refused to do.

They'll trot out the statements and that's it. They both do that well.

But forget any change unless the clubs agree.

comment by I'm not as think as you drunk I am.......Schizophrenia was my idea!.....No it wasn't!.....You are never alone with a Schizo :D (U2115)
posted 2 minutes ago
You only have to look at the bbc football homepage. Every game across Europe is talking about referees and dodgy Var and contentious decisions. Only in Scotland do we tie in religion or perceived bias to one team or another. Quite pathetic
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We’d be replacing dodgy refs with more dodgy refs. There’s no Welsh refs in Champions league Nd only more English one than there are Scottish! But aye ours are all brothers

comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by I'm not as think as you drunk I am.......Schizophrenia was my idea!.....No it wasn't!.....You are never alone with a Schizo :D (U2115)
posted 2 minutes ago
You only have to look at the bbc football homepage. Every game across Europe is talking about referees and dodgy Var and contentious decisions. Only in Scotland do we tie in religion or perceived bias to one team or another. Quite pathetic
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We’d be replacing dodgy refs with more dodgy refs. There’s no Welsh refs in Champions league Nd only more English one than there are Scottish! But aye ours are all brothers
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Thing is, the refs are not really that bad. If footballers and managers did not cheat all the time (Ryan Kent excepted) then their job would be a whole lot easier

What I don’t get is - if you shouted sectarian or racist stuff in Braehead, the shopping centre wouldn’t be liable for it. You would.

So why should football clubs be liable for what people do there? Why should they have a responsibility for what individuals choose to do?