I don’t think we did. Maddison dropped deep to get the ball because Palace defended so deeply and in so many numbers
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Maddison categorically played deeper particularly in the majority of the first half. I don’t know if this was more apparent in the stadium because you see the whole pitch constantly but he definitely played deeper than Tielemans
comment by Keep_the_faith1 (U8129)
posted 38 seconds ago
I don’t think we did. Maddison dropped deep to get the ball because Palace defended so deeply and in so many numbers
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Maddison categorically played deeper particularly in the majority of the first half. I don’t know if this was more apparent in the stadium because you see the whole pitch constantly but he definitely played deeper than Tielemans
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I’m not disagreeing with you, I’m suggesting that was because of what was in front of him
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posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Foxello (U6985)
posted 1 minute ago
It's OK saying that Vardy was left isolated today but what did he actually do to try and make things happen? I'd love to see us creating 5, 6 chances every game for him but when that isn't happening, does he do anything to try and create things for himself? He's living off his past glories I'm afraid and I for one understand why Puel has tried to replace him, albeit with no success.
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He’s not really got the tools to be any other kind of player in fairness. He’s brilliant at what he does, but as he’s getting older he’s becoming less effective at it. Great finisher still but will always need balls over the top or in behind - he won’t be able change now
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I get your point. But even when he wasn't getting chances before, he was still using his tenacity and pace to create opportunities. He doesn't seem to be doing that now. Is that because he has lost some of his pace, because of his injury or because he's lost some of that commitment that he has always had in bucket loads?
But you play Ndidi and Tielemans (a box to box) deeper and Maddison behind Vardy - that was the whole point in having Maddison in the hole, for games where teams played deeper and we needed quick feet nearer the box like in the first few games of the season
comment by Foxello (U6985)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Your Honour (U17603)
posted 2 minutes ago
Who has Puel attempted to sign to replace Vardy? No one from what I can see. Inheancho is he even a footballer? And Gray are never going to be forwards at this level.
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But he has tried them both and neither has worked. It proves that Puel has wanted to move away from him, though. We needed to sign a striker in January. Whether the decision not too was a manager or a club decision I don't know, but whoever it was, it was a bad decision.
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Yep.... Evans scores our only goal today! Joke with all that pressure in the first 30 mins....
comment by Keep_the_faith1 (U8129)
posted 2 minutes ago
But you play Ndidi and Tielemans (a box to box) deeper and Maddison behind Vardy - that was the whole point in having Maddison in the hole, for games where teams played deeper and we needed quick feet nearer the box like in the first few games of the season
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I’ve just explained why Maddison dropped deeper. You can start with whatever formation you want, if Maddison can’t get the ball in the hole then he will drop deeper to get it. It’s not necessarily an instruction from the manager - there is no possible reason for him to abandon what he’s done all season and play Maddison in the centre of midfield. I don’t believe that was the intention at all
And Maddison has himself to blame for his horrendous performance, no one else
I’ve just explained why Maddison dropped deeper.
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Explain it all you like. Maddison didn’t drop deeper he played in central midfield with Ndidi with Tielemans further forward. It was our formation for chunks of the game
comment by Keep_the_faith1 (U8129)
posted 1 minute ago
I’ve just explained why Maddison dropped deeper.
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Explain it all you like. Maddison didn’t drop deeper he played in central midfield with Ndidi with Tielemans further forward. It was our formation for chunks of the game
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Wow
Blackstarr, I honestly think if you’d been at the game you’d have viewed who played were a little differently
comment by Keep_the_faith1 (U8129)
posted 1 minute ago
Blackstarr, I honestly think if you’d been at the game you’d have viewed who played were a little differently
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There’s is absolutely no way Maddison was started, deliberately, behind N’didi. No way. He ended up there for large periods to get the ball, that is not a Puel decision
comment by The Artist formerly known as Black Starr (U12353)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Keep_the_faith1 (U8129)
posted 1 minute ago
Blackstarr, I honestly think if you’d been at the game you’d have viewed who played were a little differently
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There’s is absolutely no way Maddison was started, deliberately, behind N’didi. No way. He ended up there for large periods to get the ball, that is not a Puel decision
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Definitely agree - starting him behind Ndidi would be mental.
What did happen was that he played CM in the role with Ndidi - either played by a box to box, DCM or holding player (like Drinkwater) and Tielemans was played further forward in the ACM role
comment by Keep_the_faith1 (U8129)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
comment by The Artist formerly known as Black Starr (U12353)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Keep_the_faith1 (U8129)
posted 1 minute ago
Blackstarr, I honestly think if you’d been at the game you’d have viewed who played were a little differently
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There’s is absolutely no way Maddison was started, deliberately, behind N’didi. No way. He ended up there for large periods to get the ball, that is not a Puel decision
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Definitely agree - starting him behind Ndidi would be mental.
What did happen was that he played CM in the role with Ndidi - either played by a box to box, DCM or holding player (like Drinkwater) and Tielemans was played further forward in the ACM role
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No he was played in a no.10 with Tielemans and N’didi behind. That was the formation we started with. As they faced the brick wall that was the palace defensive line then Maddison dropped deeper to get the ball.
He still tried to operate in the hole but no one could feed the ball successfully to him. Tielemans as a box to box at times will take a more attacking role
I looked at this last night and didn't want to enter the fray but although you may be right BS I was at the match and it certainly looked more to me like the description given by KTF than what you've said. Where Tielemans was playing has also led Dunge in his player ratings to berate Tielemans for not defending - he was generally much further forward than Madders whether by Claude design or by accident, which felt weird.
comment by Nuneaton_fox (U7936)
posted 44 seconds ago
I looked at this last night and didn't want to enter the fray but although you may be right BS I was at the match and it certainly looked more to me like the description given by KTF than what you've said. Where Tielemans was playing has also led Dunge in his player ratings to berate Tielemans for not defending - he was generally much further forward than Madders whether by Claude design or by accident, which felt weird.
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I don’t doubt that took place but for some reason no one seems to entertain the fact that it wasn’t a managerial decision. Just doesn’t fit the agenda for some I guess
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posted on 23/2/19
I don’t think we did. Maddison dropped deep to get the ball because Palace defended so deeply and in so many numbers
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Maddison categorically played deeper particularly in the majority of the first half. I don’t know if this was more apparent in the stadium because you see the whole pitch constantly but he definitely played deeper than Tielemans
posted on 23/2/19
comment by Keep_the_faith1 (U8129)
posted 38 seconds ago
I don’t think we did. Maddison dropped deep to get the ball because Palace defended so deeply and in so many numbers
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Maddison categorically played deeper particularly in the majority of the first half. I don’t know if this was more apparent in the stadium because you see the whole pitch constantly but he definitely played deeper than Tielemans
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I’m not disagreeing with you, I’m suggesting that was because of what was in front of him
posted on 23/2/19
comment by The Artist formerly known as Black Starr (U12353)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Foxello (U6985)
posted 1 minute ago
It's OK saying that Vardy was left isolated today but what did he actually do to try and make things happen? I'd love to see us creating 5, 6 chances every game for him but when that isn't happening, does he do anything to try and create things for himself? He's living off his past glories I'm afraid and I for one understand why Puel has tried to replace him, albeit with no success.
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He’s not really got the tools to be any other kind of player in fairness. He’s brilliant at what he does, but as he’s getting older he’s becoming less effective at it. Great finisher still but will always need balls over the top or in behind - he won’t be able change now
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I get your point. But even when he wasn't getting chances before, he was still using his tenacity and pace to create opportunities. He doesn't seem to be doing that now. Is that because he has lost some of his pace, because of his injury or because he's lost some of that commitment that he has always had in bucket loads?
posted on 23/2/19
But you play Ndidi and Tielemans (a box to box) deeper and Maddison behind Vardy - that was the whole point in having Maddison in the hole, for games where teams played deeper and we needed quick feet nearer the box like in the first few games of the season
posted on 23/2/19
comment by Foxello (U6985)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Your Honour (U17603)
posted 2 minutes ago
Who has Puel attempted to sign to replace Vardy? No one from what I can see. Inheancho is he even a footballer? And Gray are never going to be forwards at this level.
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But he has tried them both and neither has worked. It proves that Puel has wanted to move away from him, though. We needed to sign a striker in January. Whether the decision not too was a manager or a club decision I don't know, but whoever it was, it was a bad decision.
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Yep.... Evans scores our only goal today! Joke with all that pressure in the first 30 mins....
posted on 23/2/19
comment by Keep_the_faith1 (U8129)
posted 2 minutes ago
But you play Ndidi and Tielemans (a box to box) deeper and Maddison behind Vardy - that was the whole point in having Maddison in the hole, for games where teams played deeper and we needed quick feet nearer the box like in the first few games of the season
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I’ve just explained why Maddison dropped deeper. You can start with whatever formation you want, if Maddison can’t get the ball in the hole then he will drop deeper to get it. It’s not necessarily an instruction from the manager - there is no possible reason for him to abandon what he’s done all season and play Maddison in the centre of midfield. I don’t believe that was the intention at all
And Maddison has himself to blame for his horrendous performance, no one else
posted on 23/2/19
I’ve just explained why Maddison dropped deeper.
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Explain it all you like. Maddison didn’t drop deeper he played in central midfield with Ndidi with Tielemans further forward. It was our formation for chunks of the game
posted on 23/2/19
comment by Keep_the_faith1 (U8129)
posted 1 minute ago
I’ve just explained why Maddison dropped deeper.
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Explain it all you like. Maddison didn’t drop deeper he played in central midfield with Ndidi with Tielemans further forward. It was our formation for chunks of the game
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Wow
posted on 23/2/19
Blackstarr, I honestly think if you’d been at the game you’d have viewed who played were a little differently
posted on 23/2/19
comment by Keep_the_faith1 (U8129)
posted 1 minute ago
Blackstarr, I honestly think if you’d been at the game you’d have viewed who played were a little differently
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There’s is absolutely no way Maddison was started, deliberately, behind N’didi. No way. He ended up there for large periods to get the ball, that is not a Puel decision
posted on 23/2/19
comment by The Artist formerly known as Black Starr (U12353)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Keep_the_faith1 (U8129)
posted 1 minute ago
Blackstarr, I honestly think if you’d been at the game you’d have viewed who played were a little differently
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There’s is absolutely no way Maddison was started, deliberately, behind N’didi. No way. He ended up there for large periods to get the ball, that is not a Puel decision
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Definitely agree - starting him behind Ndidi would be mental.
What did happen was that he played CM in the role with Ndidi - either played by a box to box, DCM or holding player (like Drinkwater) and Tielemans was played further forward in the ACM role
posted on 23/2/19
comment by Keep_the_faith1 (U8129)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
comment by The Artist formerly known as Black Starr (U12353)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Keep_the_faith1 (U8129)
posted 1 minute ago
Blackstarr, I honestly think if you’d been at the game you’d have viewed who played were a little differently
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There’s is absolutely no way Maddison was started, deliberately, behind N’didi. No way. He ended up there for large periods to get the ball, that is not a Puel decision
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Definitely agree - starting him behind Ndidi would be mental.
What did happen was that he played CM in the role with Ndidi - either played by a box to box, DCM or holding player (like Drinkwater) and Tielemans was played further forward in the ACM role
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No he was played in a no.10 with Tielemans and N’didi behind. That was the formation we started with. As they faced the brick wall that was the palace defensive line then Maddison dropped deeper to get the ball.
He still tried to operate in the hole but no one could feed the ball successfully to him. Tielemans as a box to box at times will take a more attacking role
posted on 24/2/19
I looked at this last night and didn't want to enter the fray but although you may be right BS I was at the match and it certainly looked more to me like the description given by KTF than what you've said. Where Tielemans was playing has also led Dunge in his player ratings to berate Tielemans for not defending - he was generally much further forward than Madders whether by Claude design or by accident, which felt weird.
posted on 24/2/19
comment by Nuneaton_fox (U7936)
posted 44 seconds ago
I looked at this last night and didn't want to enter the fray but although you may be right BS I was at the match and it certainly looked more to me like the description given by KTF than what you've said. Where Tielemans was playing has also led Dunge in his player ratings to berate Tielemans for not defending - he was generally much further forward than Madders whether by Claude design or by accident, which felt weird.
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I don’t doubt that took place but for some reason no one seems to entertain the fact that it wasn’t a managerial decision. Just doesn’t fit the agenda for some I guess
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