comment by KLS - Lets talk about 6 BABY...... (U1695)
posted 2 minutes ago
I’m a sexual god.
End of story!
And if my wife is reading this....... I said end of story!!!!
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comment by Declan McDaid (U1734)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
Do you even have a designated singing section like we do at Old Trafford??
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They are not as big as utd yet they only have a designated humming section.
As a fan who who saw games at Wembley and white hart lane trust me the players would prefer to be playing at the lane
End of
Small intimate stadiums have that effect, even white hart lane in its last season had that effect. A win for the opposition at Highbury was almost a rare occurence.
But small stadiums are unsustainable from a commercial and expansion point of view. Eventually Liverpool will have to leave Anfield or rebuild it and the atmosphere will pretty much be like Camp Nou or Allianz Arena, or worse still the Emirates when we arent bothered.
You definitely need a half decent team to make the crowd work in your favour though. Everton can blitz you at Goodison if the players and crowd are up to it.
But as a sustainable top club, its the players and the manager. Top confident players more often than not bypass the crowd influence, especially when you score early goals.
Funny enough, although most teams will adopt a defensive approach at Anfield to try to deny Klopp and his charges space, I actually think the trick is to attack intermittently to score goals as this helps open up the liverpool midfield which is usually compact.
Only 3 or so games when I saw Liverpool lose their shape last season in the PL, 2nd half against City at the Etihad, 2nd half Against Palace at Home and 2nd half against Barca at the Camp Nou.
Of the top of my head those are the only 3 games Liverpool lost control off in the PL. They pretty much controlled all the other 35 to an extent.
I know its easier said than done but the direction Klopp has taken suggests that they will still be difficult to breakdown even next season. Early goals will be key.
Will be interesting to see what direction Pep takes at Anfield in a few months time.
comment by Sir Robert Paisley says 'I am not a number, i am a free man' (U3823)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
What a load of sheight.
The only advantage of playing at 'home' is the crowd cheering you on or baying for the away team's blood.
You had that at Wembley because you had home advantage.
End of story.
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End of story
You know when someone is struggling to argue their point when they say...
End of story
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 hours, 23 minutes ago
I'm not supporting Spurs as such. But I believe the Anfield atmosphere is a plus, and so not having it is a loss. Which I think would affect most teams also.
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We copied our atmosphere from the moon
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 hours, 9 minutes ago
Saying End of story, doesn't make it true. And I bet your team would miss Anfield if they had to play at another ground for a while
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Not if we had the same crowd, no.
It's not the bricks and mortar that make Anfield what it is it's the passionate supporters that fill it.
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Sir Robert Paisley says 'I am not a number, i am a free man' (U3823)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
What a load of sheight.
The only advantage of playing at 'home' is the crowd cheering you on or baying for the away team's blood.
You had that at Wembley because you had home advantage.
End of story.
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End of story
You know when someone is struggling to argue their point when they say...
End of story
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What a childish remark...….
Nothing new there then..
comment by Sir Robert Paisley says 'I am not a numbe... (U3823)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 hours, 9 minutes ago
Saying End of story, doesn't make it true. And I bet your team would miss Anfield if they had to play at another ground for a while
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Not if we had the same crowd, no.
It's not the bricks and mortar that make Anfield what it is it's the passionate supporters that fill it.
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And when the passionate supporters are p£%%ed off because you arent at home what do you get?
An unlike home crowd.
whats an 'unlike home crowd'??
comment by gunnersaurus rex (U21846)
posted 57 minutes ago
Small intimate stadiums have that effect, even white hart lane in its last season had that effect. A win for the opposition at Highbury was almost a rare occurence.
But small stadiums are unsustainable from a commercial and expansion point of view. Eventually Liverpool will have to leave Anfield or rebuild it and the atmosphere will pretty much be like Camp Nou or Allianz Arena, or worse still the Emirates when we arent bothered.
You definitely need a half decent team to make the crowd work in your favour though. Everton can blitz you at Goodison if the players and crowd are up to it.
But as a sustainable top club, its the players and the manager. Top confident players more often than not bypass the crowd influence, especially when you score early goals.
Funny enough, although most teams will adopt a defensive approach at Anfield to try to deny Klopp and his charges space, I actually think the trick is to attack intermittently to score goals as this helps open up the liverpool midfield which is usually compact.
Only 3 or so games when I saw Liverpool lose their shape last season in the PL, 2nd half against City at the Etihad, 2nd half Against Palace at Home and 2nd half against Barca at the Camp Nou.
Of the top of my head those are the only 3 games Liverpool lost control off in the PL. They pretty much controlled all the other 35 to an extent.
I know its easier said than done but the direction Klopp has taken suggests that they will still be difficult to breakdown even next season. Early goals will be key.
Will be interesting to see what direction Pep takes at Anfield in a few months time.
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I wish more teams would take your advice. Unfortunately they won't as they know what happens if they open up against us, ask Barca. They got their tactics all wrong. All they had to do was the opposite of what you advise and they'd likely have went through.
“And when the passionate supporters are p£%%ed off because you arent at home what do you get?
An unlike home crowd.”
See this is what I don’t get. More Spurs fans had the opportunity to go and see their team at home than for years at old WHL. It’s not like you were ground-sharing with QPR or in Milton Keynes. Did the increased capacity of Wembley not contribute to those in the ST waiting list accruing points towards a ST in the new stadium?
It’s down to the fans to make it feel like home. We do when we go to finals, see Rafa, Gerrard’s comments about Istanbul etc.
comment by gunnersaurus rex (U21846)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
Small intimate stadiums have that effect, even white hart lane in its last season had that effect. A win for the opposition at Highbury was almost a rare occurence.
But small stadiums are unsustainable from a commercial and expansion point of view. Eventually Liverpool will have to leave Anfield or rebuild it and the atmosphere will pretty much be like Camp Nou or Allianz Arena, or worse still the Emirates when we arent bothered.
You definitely need a half decent team to make the crowd work in your favour though. Everton can blitz you at Goodison if the players and crowd are up to it.
But as a sustainable top club, its the players and the manager. Top confident players more often than not bypass the crowd influence, especially when you score early goals.
Funny enough, although most teams will adopt a defensive approach at Anfield to try to deny Klopp and his charges space, I actually think the trick is to attack intermittently to score goals as this helps open up the liverpool midfield which is usually compact.
Only 3 or so games when I saw Liverpool lose their shape last season in the PL, 2nd half against City at the Etihad, 2nd half Against Palace at Home and 2nd half against Barca at the Camp Nou.
Of the top of my head those are the only 3 games Liverpool lost control off in the PL. They pretty much controlled all the other 35 to an extent.
I know its easier said than done but the direction Klopp has taken suggests that they will still be difficult to breakdown even next season. Early goals will be key.
Will be interesting to see what direction Pep takes at Anfield in a few months time.
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Its not that small and obviously there is planning permission to extend further yet retain the intimate atmosphere as the crowd is so close to the pitch etc.
I also think the history and traditions make a difference, I walk to the ground and go to the same pubs that my dad took me to when I was a kid. I am now doing the same with my son and I think this level of 'education' (for want of a better word) helps. It ensures that there is still a level of fan culture that is removed from the clubs organisation. Fan groups organise the bus welcome and the flags for example. The club facilitates it but does not own any of this.
This brings with it IMO and level shared culture that you see, especially on European nights.
comment by Scouse-Heart (U3234)
posted 10 minutes ago
whats an 'unlike home crowd'??
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It's toxic, it's a temporary home where your fans arent really happy so the atmosphere isn't great. It's not as good as being at your natural home.
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 9 minutes ago
“And when the passionate supporters are p£%%ed off because you arent at home what do you get?
An unlike home crowd.”
See this is what I don’t get. More Spurs fans had the opportunity to go and see their team at home than for years at old WHL. It’s not like you were ground-sharing with QPR or in Milton Keynes. Did the increased capacity of Wembley not contribute to those in the ST waiting list accruing points towards a ST in the new stadium?
It’s down to the fans to make it feel like home. We do when we go to finals, see Rafa, Gerrard’s comments about Istanbul etc.
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Financial benefits is a different argument which I happen to agree with you, Wembley has helped Spurs financially but that doesn't make it home. I'm not sure how else I can explain this.
One off final game is completely different scenario. That's not week in week out in gutty weather travelling further to Wembley than WHL, not getting in until 12 becuase getting out of wembley is an absolute caaant.
comment by Dele Boy (U22000)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 9 minutes ago
“And when the passionate supporters are p£%%ed off because you arent at home what do you get?
An unlike home crowd.”
See this is what I don’t get. More Spurs fans had the opportunity to go and see their team at home than for years at old WHL. It’s not like you were ground-sharing with QPR or in Milton Keynes. Did the increased capacity of Wembley not contribute to those in the ST waiting list accruing points towards a ST in the new stadium?
It’s down to the fans to make it feel like home. We do when we go to finals, see Rafa, Gerrard’s comments about Istanbul etc.
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Financial benefits is a different argument which I happen to agree with you, Wembley has helped Spurs financially but that doesn't make it home. I'm not sure how else I can explain this.
One off final game is completely different scenario. That's not week in week out in gutty weather travelling further to Wembley than WHL, not getting in until 12 becuase getting out of wembley is an absolute caaant.
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I can see what you are saying but such is the demand for tickets at Anfield... I still think this would not affect our attendances.
Like my comment earlier, I'm sure if this was switched it would be the Liverpool fans arguing it wasn't home and the Spurs fans saying you had the advantage etc etc.
I think you just need to believe what the match going ST regulars are saying when it wasn't home and was not an advantage compared to WHL. The season before we moved to Wembley we went unbeaten at WHL.
comment by Scouse-Heart (U3234)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Dele Boy (U22000)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 9 minutes ago
“And when the passionate supporters are p£%%ed off because you arent at home what do you get?
An unlike home crowd.”
See this is what I don’t get. More Spurs fans had the opportunity to go and see their team at home than for years at old WHL. It’s not like you were ground-sharing with QPR or in Milton Keynes. Did the increased capacity of Wembley not contribute to those in the ST waiting list accruing points towards a ST in the new stadium?
It’s down to the fans to make it feel like home. We do when we go to finals, see Rafa, Gerrard’s comments about Istanbul etc.
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Financial benefits is a different argument which I happen to agree with you, Wembley has helped Spurs financially but that doesn't make it home. I'm not sure how else I can explain this.
One off final game is completely different scenario. That's not week in week out in gutty weather travelling further to Wembley than WHL, not getting in until 12 becuase getting out of wembley is an absolute caaant.
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I can see what you are saying but such is the demand for tickets at Anfield... I still think this would not affect our attendances.
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I agree with that but how many of the additional ticket sales due to moving to a bigger ground would be day trippers and not really know the songs etc? It's mainly the core fans it effects I guess.
Dele
I wasn’t talking financially. I was talking about the benefit to fans on the waiting list for years but missing out due to old WHL’s limited capacity. Plus the bonus of being able to get a ST at new WHL with the increased capacity.
Don’t get all the negative talk when the bottom line is more fans got to see Spurs.
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
Dele
I wasn’t talking financially. I was talking about the benefit to fans on the waiting list for years but missing out due to old WHL’s limited capacity. Plus the bonus of being able to get a ST at new WHL with the increased capacity.
Don’t get all the negative talk when the bottom line is more fans got to see Spurs.
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Well you're right, it's been hugely beneficial for the club specially now we are in one of the best stadiums in the country.
That's not to say that Wembley was our home and we had the home ground advantage because we didn't.
Dele
For all of the 17/18 season you were allowed crowds of 80,000+ with only 5,000 going to away fans. It’s what the fans make of it. Your results weren’t that bad there either.
Fields it started off ok and it was nice to have bigger crowds but towards the end the fans had enough so it become quite toxic and detrimental to the atmosphere. It's the clubs thought really for the stadium delays and thus the fans getting more p*$$*d off.
The first season at Wembley was pretty good after the first few games. I would say the Liverpool 4-1 game was where it took off for us and form was good after that. Plus we had a deal that didn't restrict attendence for most games.
The second season it became a drag because the plan was that we were not supposed to be there for long and the uncertainty remained throughout the season. There was also more attendence restrictions because it was not planned for. I think this eventually also got to the players
Had we said from the off that we would have been at Wembley for two seasons and did a deal with the council concerning attendence for that period then I think last season we would have faired much better in home games.
Anyway it was actually our away form that got poor in the second half of last season.
comment by Dele Boy (U22000)
posted 12 minutes ago
Fields it started off ok and it was nice to have bigger crowds but towards the end the fans had enough so it become quite toxic and detrimental to the atmosphere. It's the clubs thought really for the stadium delays and thus the fans getting more p*$$*d off.
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I did wonder how much was the actual stadium and how much was being narked off with the club’s handling of the new stadium?
Scousers, have you not heard of the phrase of spirtual home in football?
How would you feel if you had to leave Anfield for 3 years and play elsewhere, few miles away in a neutral ground that has no connection with the club, no history and no sentimental feel ?
WHL has been the home of Spurs for many years, over a century and there is a fundamental link between the place and fans, like a place of worship.
If you think that doesn't matter, then you don't even understand what is Anfield?
I sincerely wish you have to leave your ground in the next 2 years so we can revisit this.
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posted on 3/7/19
comment by KLS - Lets talk about 6 BABY...... (U1695)
posted 2 minutes ago
I’m a sexual god.
End of story!
And if my wife is reading this....... I said end of story!!!!
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posted on 3/7/19
comment by Declan McDaid (U1734)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
Do you even have a designated singing section like we do at Old Trafford??
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They are not as big as utd yet they only have a designated humming section.
posted on 3/7/19
As a fan who who saw games at Wembley and white hart lane trust me the players would prefer to be playing at the lane
End of
posted on 3/7/19
Small intimate stadiums have that effect, even white hart lane in its last season had that effect. A win for the opposition at Highbury was almost a rare occurence.
But small stadiums are unsustainable from a commercial and expansion point of view. Eventually Liverpool will have to leave Anfield or rebuild it and the atmosphere will pretty much be like Camp Nou or Allianz Arena, or worse still the Emirates when we arent bothered.
You definitely need a half decent team to make the crowd work in your favour though. Everton can blitz you at Goodison if the players and crowd are up to it.
But as a sustainable top club, its the players and the manager. Top confident players more often than not bypass the crowd influence, especially when you score early goals.
Funny enough, although most teams will adopt a defensive approach at Anfield to try to deny Klopp and his charges space, I actually think the trick is to attack intermittently to score goals as this helps open up the liverpool midfield which is usually compact.
Only 3 or so games when I saw Liverpool lose their shape last season in the PL, 2nd half against City at the Etihad, 2nd half Against Palace at Home and 2nd half against Barca at the Camp Nou.
Of the top of my head those are the only 3 games Liverpool lost control off in the PL. They pretty much controlled all the other 35 to an extent.
I know its easier said than done but the direction Klopp has taken suggests that they will still be difficult to breakdown even next season. Early goals will be key.
Will be interesting to see what direction Pep takes at Anfield in a few months time.
posted on 3/7/19
comment by Sir Robert Paisley says 'I am not a number, i am a free man' (U3823)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
What a load of sheight.
The only advantage of playing at 'home' is the crowd cheering you on or baying for the away team's blood.
You had that at Wembley because you had home advantage.
End of story.
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End of story
You know when someone is struggling to argue their point when they say...
End of story
posted on 3/7/19
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 hours, 23 minutes ago
I'm not supporting Spurs as such. But I believe the Anfield atmosphere is a plus, and so not having it is a loss. Which I think would affect most teams also.
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We copied our atmosphere from the moon
posted on 3/7/19
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 hours, 9 minutes ago
Saying End of story, doesn't make it true. And I bet your team would miss Anfield if they had to play at another ground for a while
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Not if we had the same crowd, no.
It's not the bricks and mortar that make Anfield what it is it's the passionate supporters that fill it.
posted on 3/7/19
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Sir Robert Paisley says 'I am not a number, i am a free man' (U3823)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
What a load of sheight.
The only advantage of playing at 'home' is the crowd cheering you on or baying for the away team's blood.
You had that at Wembley because you had home advantage.
End of story.
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End of story
You know when someone is struggling to argue their point when they say...
End of story
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What a childish remark...….
Nothing new there then..
posted on 3/7/19
comment by Sir Robert Paisley says 'I am not a numbe... (U3823)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 hours, 9 minutes ago
Saying End of story, doesn't make it true. And I bet your team would miss Anfield if they had to play at another ground for a while
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Not if we had the same crowd, no.
It's not the bricks and mortar that make Anfield what it is it's the passionate supporters that fill it.
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And when the passionate supporters are p£%%ed off because you arent at home what do you get?
An unlike home crowd.
posted on 3/7/19
whats an 'unlike home crowd'??
posted on 3/7/19
comment by gunnersaurus rex (U21846)
posted 57 minutes ago
Small intimate stadiums have that effect, even white hart lane in its last season had that effect. A win for the opposition at Highbury was almost a rare occurence.
But small stadiums are unsustainable from a commercial and expansion point of view. Eventually Liverpool will have to leave Anfield or rebuild it and the atmosphere will pretty much be like Camp Nou or Allianz Arena, or worse still the Emirates when we arent bothered.
You definitely need a half decent team to make the crowd work in your favour though. Everton can blitz you at Goodison if the players and crowd are up to it.
But as a sustainable top club, its the players and the manager. Top confident players more often than not bypass the crowd influence, especially when you score early goals.
Funny enough, although most teams will adopt a defensive approach at Anfield to try to deny Klopp and his charges space, I actually think the trick is to attack intermittently to score goals as this helps open up the liverpool midfield which is usually compact.
Only 3 or so games when I saw Liverpool lose their shape last season in the PL, 2nd half against City at the Etihad, 2nd half Against Palace at Home and 2nd half against Barca at the Camp Nou.
Of the top of my head those are the only 3 games Liverpool lost control off in the PL. They pretty much controlled all the other 35 to an extent.
I know its easier said than done but the direction Klopp has taken suggests that they will still be difficult to breakdown even next season. Early goals will be key.
Will be interesting to see what direction Pep takes at Anfield in a few months time.
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I wish more teams would take your advice. Unfortunately they won't as they know what happens if they open up against us, ask Barca. They got their tactics all wrong. All they had to do was the opposite of what you advise and they'd likely have went through.
posted on 3/7/19
“And when the passionate supporters are p£%%ed off because you arent at home what do you get?
An unlike home crowd.”
See this is what I don’t get. More Spurs fans had the opportunity to go and see their team at home than for years at old WHL. It’s not like you were ground-sharing with QPR or in Milton Keynes. Did the increased capacity of Wembley not contribute to those in the ST waiting list accruing points towards a ST in the new stadium?
It’s down to the fans to make it feel like home. We do when we go to finals, see Rafa, Gerrard’s comments about Istanbul etc.
posted on 3/7/19
comment by gunnersaurus rex (U21846)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
Small intimate stadiums have that effect, even white hart lane in its last season had that effect. A win for the opposition at Highbury was almost a rare occurence.
But small stadiums are unsustainable from a commercial and expansion point of view. Eventually Liverpool will have to leave Anfield or rebuild it and the atmosphere will pretty much be like Camp Nou or Allianz Arena, or worse still the Emirates when we arent bothered.
You definitely need a half decent team to make the crowd work in your favour though. Everton can blitz you at Goodison if the players and crowd are up to it.
But as a sustainable top club, its the players and the manager. Top confident players more often than not bypass the crowd influence, especially when you score early goals.
Funny enough, although most teams will adopt a defensive approach at Anfield to try to deny Klopp and his charges space, I actually think the trick is to attack intermittently to score goals as this helps open up the liverpool midfield which is usually compact.
Only 3 or so games when I saw Liverpool lose their shape last season in the PL, 2nd half against City at the Etihad, 2nd half Against Palace at Home and 2nd half against Barca at the Camp Nou.
Of the top of my head those are the only 3 games Liverpool lost control off in the PL. They pretty much controlled all the other 35 to an extent.
I know its easier said than done but the direction Klopp has taken suggests that they will still be difficult to breakdown even next season. Early goals will be key.
Will be interesting to see what direction Pep takes at Anfield in a few months time.
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Its not that small and obviously there is planning permission to extend further yet retain the intimate atmosphere as the crowd is so close to the pitch etc.
I also think the history and traditions make a difference, I walk to the ground and go to the same pubs that my dad took me to when I was a kid. I am now doing the same with my son and I think this level of 'education' (for want of a better word) helps. It ensures that there is still a level of fan culture that is removed from the clubs organisation. Fan groups organise the bus welcome and the flags for example. The club facilitates it but does not own any of this.
This brings with it IMO and level shared culture that you see, especially on European nights.
posted on 3/7/19
comment by Scouse-Heart (U3234)
posted 10 minutes ago
whats an 'unlike home crowd'??
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It's toxic, it's a temporary home where your fans arent really happy so the atmosphere isn't great. It's not as good as being at your natural home.
posted on 3/7/19
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 9 minutes ago
“And when the passionate supporters are p£%%ed off because you arent at home what do you get?
An unlike home crowd.”
See this is what I don’t get. More Spurs fans had the opportunity to go and see their team at home than for years at old WHL. It’s not like you were ground-sharing with QPR or in Milton Keynes. Did the increased capacity of Wembley not contribute to those in the ST waiting list accruing points towards a ST in the new stadium?
It’s down to the fans to make it feel like home. We do when we go to finals, see Rafa, Gerrard’s comments about Istanbul etc.
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Financial benefits is a different argument which I happen to agree with you, Wembley has helped Spurs financially but that doesn't make it home. I'm not sure how else I can explain this.
One off final game is completely different scenario. That's not week in week out in gutty weather travelling further to Wembley than WHL, not getting in until 12 becuase getting out of wembley is an absolute caaant.
posted on 3/7/19
comment by Dele Boy (U22000)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 9 minutes ago
“And when the passionate supporters are p£%%ed off because you arent at home what do you get?
An unlike home crowd.”
See this is what I don’t get. More Spurs fans had the opportunity to go and see their team at home than for years at old WHL. It’s not like you were ground-sharing with QPR or in Milton Keynes. Did the increased capacity of Wembley not contribute to those in the ST waiting list accruing points towards a ST in the new stadium?
It’s down to the fans to make it feel like home. We do when we go to finals, see Rafa, Gerrard’s comments about Istanbul etc.
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Financial benefits is a different argument which I happen to agree with you, Wembley has helped Spurs financially but that doesn't make it home. I'm not sure how else I can explain this.
One off final game is completely different scenario. That's not week in week out in gutty weather travelling further to Wembley than WHL, not getting in until 12 becuase getting out of wembley is an absolute caaant.
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I can see what you are saying but such is the demand for tickets at Anfield... I still think this would not affect our attendances.
posted on 3/7/19
Like my comment earlier, I'm sure if this was switched it would be the Liverpool fans arguing it wasn't home and the Spurs fans saying you had the advantage etc etc.
I think you just need to believe what the match going ST regulars are saying when it wasn't home and was not an advantage compared to WHL. The season before we moved to Wembley we went unbeaten at WHL.
posted on 3/7/19
comment by Scouse-Heart (U3234)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Dele Boy (U22000)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 9 minutes ago
“And when the passionate supporters are p£%%ed off because you arent at home what do you get?
An unlike home crowd.”
See this is what I don’t get. More Spurs fans had the opportunity to go and see their team at home than for years at old WHL. It’s not like you were ground-sharing with QPR or in Milton Keynes. Did the increased capacity of Wembley not contribute to those in the ST waiting list accruing points towards a ST in the new stadium?
It’s down to the fans to make it feel like home. We do when we go to finals, see Rafa, Gerrard’s comments about Istanbul etc.
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Financial benefits is a different argument which I happen to agree with you, Wembley has helped Spurs financially but that doesn't make it home. I'm not sure how else I can explain this.
One off final game is completely different scenario. That's not week in week out in gutty weather travelling further to Wembley than WHL, not getting in until 12 becuase getting out of wembley is an absolute caaant.
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I can see what you are saying but such is the demand for tickets at Anfield... I still think this would not affect our attendances.
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I agree with that but how many of the additional ticket sales due to moving to a bigger ground would be day trippers and not really know the songs etc? It's mainly the core fans it effects I guess.
posted on 3/7/19
Dele
I wasn’t talking financially. I was talking about the benefit to fans on the waiting list for years but missing out due to old WHL’s limited capacity. Plus the bonus of being able to get a ST at new WHL with the increased capacity.
Don’t get all the negative talk when the bottom line is more fans got to see Spurs.
posted on 3/7/19
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
Dele
I wasn’t talking financially. I was talking about the benefit to fans on the waiting list for years but missing out due to old WHL’s limited capacity. Plus the bonus of being able to get a ST at new WHL with the increased capacity.
Don’t get all the negative talk when the bottom line is more fans got to see Spurs.
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Well you're right, it's been hugely beneficial for the club specially now we are in one of the best stadiums in the country.
That's not to say that Wembley was our home and we had the home ground advantage because we didn't.
posted on 3/7/19
Dele
For all of the 17/18 season you were allowed crowds of 80,000+ with only 5,000 going to away fans. It’s what the fans make of it. Your results weren’t that bad there either.
posted on 3/7/19
Fields it started off ok and it was nice to have bigger crowds but towards the end the fans had enough so it become quite toxic and detrimental to the atmosphere. It's the clubs thought really for the stadium delays and thus the fans getting more p*$$*d off.
posted on 3/7/19
The first season at Wembley was pretty good after the first few games. I would say the Liverpool 4-1 game was where it took off for us and form was good after that. Plus we had a deal that didn't restrict attendence for most games.
The second season it became a drag because the plan was that we were not supposed to be there for long and the uncertainty remained throughout the season. There was also more attendence restrictions because it was not planned for. I think this eventually also got to the players
Had we said from the off that we would have been at Wembley for two seasons and did a deal with the council concerning attendence for that period then I think last season we would have faired much better in home games.
Anyway it was actually our away form that got poor in the second half of last season.
posted on 3/7/19
comment by Dele Boy (U22000)
posted 12 minutes ago
Fields it started off ok and it was nice to have bigger crowds but towards the end the fans had enough so it become quite toxic and detrimental to the atmosphere. It's the clubs thought really for the stadium delays and thus the fans getting more p*$$*d off.
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I did wonder how much was the actual stadium and how much was being narked off with the club’s handling of the new stadium?
posted on 3/7/19
Scousers, have you not heard of the phrase of spirtual home in football?
How would you feel if you had to leave Anfield for 3 years and play elsewhere, few miles away in a neutral ground that has no connection with the club, no history and no sentimental feel ?
WHL has been the home of Spurs for many years, over a century and there is a fundamental link between the place and fans, like a place of worship.
If you think that doesn't matter, then you don't even understand what is Anfield?
I sincerely wish you have to leave your ground in the next 2 years so we can revisit this.
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