....but he talks bull according to a few on here.

I also understand KP’s agent has said they are expecting a new deal on the table soon.

I think as fans we just have to let the club value players based on what they think they are worth - both now and after success or failure at the end of the season.

I truly think it’s promotion or sale for Radz this season. No doubt he’s in it for the money and plaudits he will get if we go up....but he knows the fans now and if he fails this season his tenure will be more than uncomfortable.

We need to realise that there are no mega rich Leeds fans out there who are going to plough their hard earned cash into their dream of PL football with LUFC. The best we can hope for is a business person who understands how football works.

According to Angus Kinnear the moon is made of cheese.

We need to realise that there are no mega rich Leeds fans out there who are going to plough their hard earned cash into their dream of PL football with LUFC. The best we can hope for is a business person who understands how football works.
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What utter rubbish

Leicester
Wolves
Villa
Chelsea
Man City

Etc etc

comment by LIW Radchancer (U8453)
posted 37 minutes ago

We need to realise that there are no mega rich Leeds fans out there who are going to plough their hard earned cash into their dream of PL football with LUFC. The best we can hope for is a business person who understands how football works.
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What utter rubbish

Leicester
Wolves
Villa
Chelsea
Man City

Etc etc
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Why do you think the wealthy owners seem to avoid us?

Not a dig - serious question?

Links to PSG are just that, it’s rumour control as much as anything.

LIW Radchancer (U8453)
posted 45 minutes ago


We need to realise that there are no mega rich Leeds fans out there who are going to plough their hard earned cash into their dream of PL football with LUFC. The best we can hope for is a business person who understands how football works.
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What utter rubbish

Leicester
Wolves
Villa
Chelsea
Man City

Etc etc

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Not sure what your point is, King Power founder, Fosun, NSWE, Abramovich and Sheikh Mansoor had no interest in Leicester, Wolves, Villa, Chelsea and City respectively. They may not all be businessmen but were looking for investments and could have chosen practically any club. These teams lucked out.
Your point seems to prove what Stoopo wrote.

Very few mega rich fans out there investing in their boyhood teams.

My point is obvious and clear

Stoopo said bear we can hope for, his a business man.

I’ve then pointed to numerous clubs who have loads of money Chucked at them.

So we can hope for better than rad

comment by LIW Radchancer (U8453)
posted 5 minutes ago
My point is obvious and clear

Stoopo said bear we can hope for, his a business man.

I’ve then pointed to numerous clubs who have loads of money Chucked at them.

So we can hope for better than rad
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To be honest your point was neither clear nor obvious.

I had to re-read it a few times, in the context of the paragraph from Stoopo, before thinking I got what you're on about.

If multiple people aren't clear on your reply, your reply isn't clear.

PNS has given them the perfect excuse to be pathetic in the market.

we dont go up this year, were left with half a squad.

but i do like the look of of white and nketiah

Three weeks ago i was fairly despondent rumblings that players wanted to leave etc.
Feeling a bit better now as these players are still here and new players have arrived.
Roofes a blow and don't know much about Nketiah but reports are hes decent (he needs to get in the team first though).
I am worried about our lack of cover at CB we will need Cooper and White to play most of the season,
We do have some pace in the side now though.
Bench tomorrow could be Alioski, Shack, Costa, Nketiah, Berardi, Clarke, Add Ayling, Roberts, Mcalmont, Davis, Gotts and its a decent squad apart from the CB,
Does anyone on here(me included) actually understand FFP, i am not sure they do, i have tried to understand it and read a couple of articles and if i have understood it right the sales we have made will just about cover our three year loss, we can only lose £31m not £38m as the owner hasn't put money in since 17-18, also i read that for instance the Saiz money wouldn't count due to costs involving his fee etc. A bit complicated i know so if someone wants to explain better go ahead.
Now we could ask why our administration costs are so high or why AR hasn't stuck the £8m hes allowed to in and they are legitimate questions and its disappointing about both.
We have got rid of a lot of players some we thought or wanted to think were going to make the grade and the plus there might be that the bar has been raised about the quality of young player we want, i am sure some of them will go on to have good careers but that's football,
Think we have had Tottenhams pants down over Jack Clarke cant see how hes going to get in our team if everyone is fit,
Cant wait for tomorrow (probably get beat now) and don't think the situations as bad as people are making out,

Ok should have been more clear.

But still the same answer, that stoopo is talking garbage.

hes too skint to invest to give us the most leeway with PNS rules.

He's not to skint, he's doing what he's said he was going to do the whole time he's been here, he's not throwing his money at it!..

Anyone that wishes to buy Leeds United are welcome to bid, but, hopefully if its anyone on here they're willing to throw most off what they have at it, especially if its one off those that say others have to!..

One for Pro, the "Championship" is the hardest league in the world to get out off because off money needed to do it, and by that it means money to keep the club afloat if it manages to reach the top flight not only to get there!..

Waste of toilet space if you go up and cant stay up, stability of the club is a main factor when going up, those that want to go up only to come back down will have bigger problems when dropping back down!..

comment by LIW Radchancer (U8453)
posted 29 minutes ago
Ok should have been more clear.

But still the same answer, that stoopo is talking garbage.
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That's just lifted the gloom on an otherwise, sh11tty wet morning in Leeds

Waste of toilet space if you go up and cant stay up, stability of the club is a main factor when going up, those that want to go up only to come back down will have bigger problems when dropping back down!.

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Not at all. If you go up and come back down, you're in a great position in terms of finances. Burnley are one that did it well - kept hold of their manager, didn't make rash decisions with recruitment and were in the position to go for promotion again and stay up the second time.

Best, its a case off premiership wages and who wants to stay, how many players would take a cut, it'd have to be written into their contract but these days they seen to have a clause that says the team is relegated they can go!..

I know clubs can do it when run properly, but, look at Sunderland!..

From Prem to League one in two seasons!..

Stability of the club is a main factor!..

I think we have to remember where AR started, two years ago, picking up what was left of our great club after a series of poor owners had done their worst.

It's difficult for fans to understand AR's position because his communications have been so poor and because he sends out mixed signals. He allowed Orta to sign a load of dross which have really taxed the resources of the club during the course of his tenure; but hasn't gone the extra mile at critical campaign points, like last January. The squad ran out of steam a month before the end of the season; that might not have happened had it been refreshed in January. Mixed signals.

Now the rumour is that he is prepping for sale at the end of this, his third year. If we're promoted, he'll carry on but if not, we'll be up for sale. New owners will likely start from scratch if Bielsa goes too, so it doesn't matter if the squad is full of loanees - as long as they are year-long loanees, I guess - because everything will change next summer anyway.

I'm only guessing, like everyone else, what is in AR's mind - but it's only natural to read the recent window in this way. In any case, Ar is probably horrified to discover how agents work and how the market is now obviously and ridiculously ballooning. Is Ollie McBurney worth 20 million, ffs? He won't shell out such ridiculous sums of money if he's got any sense at all. We are still only a Championship-level club, financially.

I also wonder just how closely he's focussed on the club and how much his attention is on his actual business.

What if we did go up? Imagine a season in the premier league the way our club is run i.e doing it on the cheap save wages and leaving it till the last minute.

With regards to relegation clauses.

I'm of the opinion it should be in the PL rules that ALL players sign a clause that states if the club is relegated the player receives a maximum of £20k a week.

Also all clubs should be made to have a contingency fund that should they get relegated would cover the "x" amount of £20k's per week for a year or so.

That completely negates the need for the huge parachute payments.

The extra money could then be split from League 2 upwards.

Wouldn’t work aza

For two reasons

1 teams who would be likely to be relegated or in a battle wouldn’t be able to attract players

2 when you went down, most of the side would want to leave. It would be carnage.

There is no easy solution

It's not the fact they get parachute payments, it's the amount to me. That's what creates such an in-balance when a club comes down.

Maybe a £10m max payment (notional figure, insert whatever suits)? Clubs have to start learning to live within means and have continuity plans, not just get bailed out.

It’s the water tight contracts players have.

The drop in revenue is too big.

comment by Jaz63 (U8369)
posted 39 minutes ago
I think we have to remember where AR started, two years ago, picking up what was left of our great club after a series of poor owners had done their worst.

It's difficult for fans to understand AR's position because his communications have been so poor and because he sends out mixed signals. He allowed Orta to sign a load of dross which have really taxed the resources of the club during the course of his tenure; but hasn't gone the extra mile at critical campaign points, like last January. The squad ran out of steam a month before the end of the season; that might not have happened had it been refreshed in January. Mixed signals.

Now the rumour is that he is prepping for sale at the end of this, his third year. If we're promoted, he'll carry on but if not, we'll be up for sale. New owners will likely start from scratch if Bielsa goes too, so it doesn't matter if the squad is full of loanees - as long as they are year-long loanees, I guess - because everything will change next summer anyway.

I'm only guessing, like everyone else, what is in AR's mind - but it's only natural to read the recent window in this way. In any case, Ar is probably horrified to discover how agents work and how the market is now obviously and ridiculously ballooning. Is Ollie McBurney worth 20 million, ffs? He won't shell out such ridiculous sums of money if he's got any sense at all. We are still only a Championship-level club, financially.
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That’s pretty much my assessment too. My biggest concern at the time with the appointment of Orta was that Radz, with no football knowledge, would just hand the cheque book to him. Orta spunked it all unchecked on recreating a Seville model, which is ok IF you have the resources, but cheapskated on coaches and first team. We’ve paid for that in terms of resources since and have now torn it up. Obviously 11 sports debacle hamstrings Radz too.

comment by LIW Radchancer (U8453)
posted 7 minutes ago
It’s the water tight contracts players have.

The drop in revenue is too big.
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Not sure that’s still totally the case, most contracts have relegation clauses in them, making parachute payments a bit of a cop out. Likely that the reduced fees for relegation aren’t reduced as much as they should be though.