Really hope we get to see Garner at some point. Reckon we'll definitely see Chong coming on second half. Dont know what Gomes has to do to break into the first squad.
Good u23 game so far
Maybe it's just that Martial is out, so Chong gets called up to the bench as he's a winger. Gomes will get chances in his proper position in the cup games i'm sure, don't want to see him out wide.
Garner I would love to be tried at DM, allowing Pogba to play higher up. Doubt he'll get any game time though.
Gomes will get chances but hopefully those chances come in September because he’ll be able to talk to other clubs in just over 4 months. If he’s leaving anyway it might be best to leave him out.
Good goal by Gomes. Hes running the show
Watching it, Gomes once again bossing it.
https://twitter.com/unitedevil1/status/1167510629218947073?s=21
Goal.
This makes me want to cry a bit.
Need to give this kid a go in the first team, will be gutted if he leaves without being given a chance.
Who cares if he’s small, so is silva, mata etc...
I actually don’t think Southampton away is the right game for Gomes, but have liked to see him on the bench.
Last weekend was the perfect match for him. I said it before the game. Same with Greenwood.
Mata and Lingard are ahead as a 10...Pogba in midfield... Either side of attack rightly or wrongly people are ahead of him in the pecking order
League Cup and europa he'll figure.... Hopefully he "Harry Kanes" it
Is Gomes the most ready to take the step up to the first team, what are you basing this on? You seem to have an obsession that a bunch of kids can all come into the first team and make it, that rarely happens, however talented they may be, be patient and give it some time.
We’ve played 2 games, chill out, I’m sure with our squad the kids will get plenty of opportunities.
We’ve played 2 games, chill out, I’m sure with our squad the kids will get plenty of opportunities.
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We have played three. We have one point from the last two of them playing Lingard who has the worst assist record in the world and doesn't seem capable of opening teams that sit back, up.
Why not give Gomes a go. Can he really do anything worse?
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 4 minutes ago
Is Gomes the most ready to take the step up to the first team, what are you basing this on? You seem to have an obsession that a bunch of kids can all come into the first team and make it, that rarely happens, however talented they may be, be patient and give it some time.
We’ve played 2 games, chill out, I’m sure with our squad the kids will get plenty of opportunities.
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A lot of assumptions there... I never said they can all make it. I never even said one can make it. I watch football because it excites me and watching exciting new talent also excites me. If players make it to the first team through our youth system then even better.
Gomes is the most ready IN MY OPINION because from all of the cameos I've seen, he seems to have the best balance between risk and caution when in possession with the ball. He's also far more confident and composed on the ball than the others as well.
You could call it an obsession, that's why we're all here talking to random gobschites on an anonymous forum.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
We’ve played 2 games, chill out, I’m sure with our squad the kids will get plenty of opportunities.
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We have played three. We have one point from the last two of them playing Lingard who has the worst assist record in the world and doesn't seem capable of opening teams that sit back, up.
Why not give Gomes a go. Can he really do anything worse?
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He can't do any worse, but people prefer to watch the same old mistakes happen over and over again.
Pereira better at least play tomorrow instead of Lingard that's for sure.
The thing is Pereira isn't taking the chances he has been getting either.
He needs one good solid game where he is noticed to get going or he will just be another of our youngsters who will end up like Greening.
Nothing wrong with that mind.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 5 minutes ago
The thing is Pereira isn't taking the chances he has been getting either.
He needs one good solid game where he is noticed to get going or he will just be another of our youngsters who will end up like Greening.
Nothing wrong with that mind.
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True but at the moment I think he'd give us more than Lingard who seems to be afraid to do anything positive with the ball.
My preference though will always be to either push Pogba further up the pitch or play Gomes.... or to just stop poossy footing about and start both of them with a single DM behind them for protection.
I've no issue with Gomes being given a chance but I'm not entirely sure where Kung Fu has come to the conclusion that he is the most ready of all our youth players?
It's only been 3 games (sorry, not 2), like I said, there is no immediate rush to put him into the starting line up where he may struggle physically, especially in a game like Saints away.
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 2 minutes ago
I've no issue with Gomes being given a chance but I'm not entirely sure where Kung Fu has come to the conclusion that he is the most ready of all our youth players?
It's only been 3 games (sorry, not 2), like I said, there is no immediate rush to put him into the starting line up where he may struggle physically, especially in a game like Saints away.
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I'm judging them solely on their performances in the first team and how they have transferred their skills from the reserves to the first team. Gomes seems to be unaffected when playing in the first team, he maintains the same confidence and composure. Greenwood in comparison who is also an amazing talent seems to be far more cautious and nervous in possession.
If you disagree, that's fine but that's how I've come to my conclusion.
There is an immediate rush to improve our starting 11 because we lack structure and creativity in midfield.
Gomes is my solution.
He's played a total of 29 minutes for the first team over the past 3 seasons, his most minutes in a game was 16 against Cardiff last season where no one cared or even tried, how can you possibly know how ready he is?
You were doing the same thing last season, continually going on about how TFM, Tuanzebe and Pereira are ready for the first team based on nothing other than them being the hot names from our youth squad.
We all love to see youth get a chance and make it, but it's not easy and needs to be done with a lot of care and patience.
I've no issue with Gomes being given a chance but I'm not entirely sure where Kung Fu has come to the conclusion that he is the most ready of all our youth players?
.....
Out of those I have seen on the tour and in their other cameos with the first team I would agree with Kung Fu that Gomes looks the most ready.
Whether that turns out to be the case remains to be seen. But as I said earlier, he just can't be any worse than Lingard right now.
There comes a time when you can’t really improve or become any more ‘ready’ by playing longer at U23 level, he seems to be the best or one of the best every time he plays against other kids now, likewise Garner running the midfield.
If someone gets to the level at U23, and the starter in that position in the first team is offering diddly squat every game, it’s only a matter of time until his chance comes.
Let’s just hope he takes it, and that he’s given long enough to grow into it.
He couldn’t offer less than Lingard has in the short time we’ve had this season, that’s for sure.
Performances from pre season mean very little though as we’ve already seen this season where our league performances have been nothing like our tour. Liverpool had a pretty poor pre season yet have started the league very well.
I don’t understand why every summer we have a good pre season, fans think that it’ll translate into competitive games.
Got to agree with KFC. Everything I have seen of Gomes makes me think that he is ready. I thought he looked very assured in preseason. Time to give the kid a try. We really need someone with a bit of guile in the middle and he has it in abundance. I've got a really bad feeling that we are going to lose him on a free though
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 3 minutes ago
He's played a total of 29 minutes for the first team over the past 3 seasons, his most minutes in a game was 16 against Cardiff last season where no one cared or even tried, how can you possibly know how ready he is?
You were doing the same thing last season, continually going on about how TFM, Tuanzebe and Pereira are ready for the first team based on nothing other than them being the hot names from our youth squad.
We all love to see youth get a chance and make it, but it's not easy and needs to be done with a lot of care and patience.
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I don't care how much he's played, all of them have played very little first team football. This is all I have to compare them on though, that and how well they have transferred their skills from the reserves.
I don't know he's ready, I said he SEEMS to be the most ready out of the other kids.
Yes I was going on about TFM, Pereira and Tuanzebe a lot, YOU seem to going on about that fact a lot. Why do you even care about how positive somebody is about Utd's youth prospects? I told you this is a part of football I really enjoy. If you think I talk about them because they are the "hot names from our youth squad" then that is based on as little evidence you think I have to back up my claims about Gomes.
Performances from pre season mean very little though
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It is all we have to judge him on. He was out there on the tour with the rest of the youngsters.
You asked what we were judging him on to make the determination he was the most ready to make the step up.
Lastly no one thinks preseason translates to competitive games.
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posted on 30/8/19
Really hope we get to see Garner at some point. Reckon we'll definitely see Chong coming on second half. Dont know what Gomes has to do to break into the first squad.
Good u23 game so far
posted on 30/8/19
Maybe it's just that Martial is out, so Chong gets called up to the bench as he's a winger. Gomes will get chances in his proper position in the cup games i'm sure, don't want to see him out wide.
Garner I would love to be tried at DM, allowing Pogba to play higher up. Doubt he'll get any game time though.
posted on 30/8/19
Gomes will get chances but hopefully those chances come in September because he’ll be able to talk to other clubs in just over 4 months. If he’s leaving anyway it might be best to leave him out.
posted on 30/8/19
Good goal by Gomes. Hes running the show
posted on 30/8/19
Watching it, Gomes once again bossing it.
posted on 30/8/19
https://twitter.com/unitedevil1/status/1167510629218947073?s=21
Goal.
posted on 30/8/19
This makes me want to cry a bit.
posted on 30/8/19
Need to give this kid a go in the first team, will be gutted if he leaves without being given a chance.
Who cares if he’s small, so is silva, mata etc...
posted on 30/8/19
I actually don’t think Southampton away is the right game for Gomes, but have liked to see him on the bench.
Last weekend was the perfect match for him. I said it before the game. Same with Greenwood.
posted on 30/8/19
Mata and Lingard are ahead as a 10...Pogba in midfield... Either side of attack rightly or wrongly people are ahead of him in the pecking order
League Cup and europa he'll figure.... Hopefully he "Harry Kanes" it
posted on 30/8/19
Is Gomes the most ready to take the step up to the first team, what are you basing this on? You seem to have an obsession that a bunch of kids can all come into the first team and make it, that rarely happens, however talented they may be, be patient and give it some time.
We’ve played 2 games, chill out, I’m sure with our squad the kids will get plenty of opportunities.
posted on 30/8/19
We’ve played 2 games, chill out, I’m sure with our squad the kids will get plenty of opportunities.
...
We have played three. We have one point from the last two of them playing Lingard who has the worst assist record in the world and doesn't seem capable of opening teams that sit back, up.
Why not give Gomes a go. Can he really do anything worse?
posted on 30/8/19
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 4 minutes ago
Is Gomes the most ready to take the step up to the first team, what are you basing this on? You seem to have an obsession that a bunch of kids can all come into the first team and make it, that rarely happens, however talented they may be, be patient and give it some time.
We’ve played 2 games, chill out, I’m sure with our squad the kids will get plenty of opportunities.
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A lot of assumptions there... I never said they can all make it. I never even said one can make it. I watch football because it excites me and watching exciting new talent also excites me. If players make it to the first team through our youth system then even better.
Gomes is the most ready IN MY OPINION because from all of the cameos I've seen, he seems to have the best balance between risk and caution when in possession with the ball. He's also far more confident and composed on the ball than the others as well.
You could call it an obsession, that's why we're all here talking to random gobschites on an anonymous forum.
posted on 30/8/19
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
We’ve played 2 games, chill out, I’m sure with our squad the kids will get plenty of opportunities.
...
We have played three. We have one point from the last two of them playing Lingard who has the worst assist record in the world and doesn't seem capable of opening teams that sit back, up.
Why not give Gomes a go. Can he really do anything worse?
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He can't do any worse, but people prefer to watch the same old mistakes happen over and over again.
Pereira better at least play tomorrow instead of Lingard that's for sure.
posted on 30/8/19
The thing is Pereira isn't taking the chances he has been getting either.
He needs one good solid game where he is noticed to get going or he will just be another of our youngsters who will end up like Greening.
Nothing wrong with that mind.
posted on 30/8/19
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 5 minutes ago
The thing is Pereira isn't taking the chances he has been getting either.
He needs one good solid game where he is noticed to get going or he will just be another of our youngsters who will end up like Greening.
Nothing wrong with that mind.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
True but at the moment I think he'd give us more than Lingard who seems to be afraid to do anything positive with the ball.
My preference though will always be to either push Pogba further up the pitch or play Gomes.... or to just stop poossy footing about and start both of them with a single DM behind them for protection.
posted on 30/8/19
I've no issue with Gomes being given a chance but I'm not entirely sure where Kung Fu has come to the conclusion that he is the most ready of all our youth players?
It's only been 3 games (sorry, not 2), like I said, there is no immediate rush to put him into the starting line up where he may struggle physically, especially in a game like Saints away.
posted on 30/8/19
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 2 minutes ago
I've no issue with Gomes being given a chance but I'm not entirely sure where Kung Fu has come to the conclusion that he is the most ready of all our youth players?
It's only been 3 games (sorry, not 2), like I said, there is no immediate rush to put him into the starting line up where he may struggle physically, especially in a game like Saints away.
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I'm judging them solely on their performances in the first team and how they have transferred their skills from the reserves to the first team. Gomes seems to be unaffected when playing in the first team, he maintains the same confidence and composure. Greenwood in comparison who is also an amazing talent seems to be far more cautious and nervous in possession.
If you disagree, that's fine but that's how I've come to my conclusion.
There is an immediate rush to improve our starting 11 because we lack structure and creativity in midfield.
Gomes is my solution.
posted on 30/8/19
He's played a total of 29 minutes for the first team over the past 3 seasons, his most minutes in a game was 16 against Cardiff last season where no one cared or even tried, how can you possibly know how ready he is?
You were doing the same thing last season, continually going on about how TFM, Tuanzebe and Pereira are ready for the first team based on nothing other than them being the hot names from our youth squad.
We all love to see youth get a chance and make it, but it's not easy and needs to be done with a lot of care and patience.
posted on 30/8/19
I've no issue with Gomes being given a chance but I'm not entirely sure where Kung Fu has come to the conclusion that he is the most ready of all our youth players?
.....
Out of those I have seen on the tour and in their other cameos with the first team I would agree with Kung Fu that Gomes looks the most ready.
Whether that turns out to be the case remains to be seen. But as I said earlier, he just can't be any worse than Lingard right now.
posted on 30/8/19
There comes a time when you can’t really improve or become any more ‘ready’ by playing longer at U23 level, he seems to be the best or one of the best every time he plays against other kids now, likewise Garner running the midfield.
If someone gets to the level at U23, and the starter in that position in the first team is offering diddly squat every game, it’s only a matter of time until his chance comes.
Let’s just hope he takes it, and that he’s given long enough to grow into it.
He couldn’t offer less than Lingard has in the short time we’ve had this season, that’s for sure.
posted on 30/8/19
Performances from pre season mean very little though as we’ve already seen this season where our league performances have been nothing like our tour. Liverpool had a pretty poor pre season yet have started the league very well.
I don’t understand why every summer we have a good pre season, fans think that it’ll translate into competitive games.
posted on 30/8/19
Got to agree with KFC. Everything I have seen of Gomes makes me think that he is ready. I thought he looked very assured in preseason. Time to give the kid a try. We really need someone with a bit of guile in the middle and he has it in abundance. I've got a really bad feeling that we are going to lose him on a free though
posted on 30/8/19
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 3 minutes ago
He's played a total of 29 minutes for the first team over the past 3 seasons, his most minutes in a game was 16 against Cardiff last season where no one cared or even tried, how can you possibly know how ready he is?
You were doing the same thing last season, continually going on about how TFM, Tuanzebe and Pereira are ready for the first team based on nothing other than them being the hot names from our youth squad.
We all love to see youth get a chance and make it, but it's not easy and needs to be done with a lot of care and patience.
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I don't care how much he's played, all of them have played very little first team football. This is all I have to compare them on though, that and how well they have transferred their skills from the reserves.
I don't know he's ready, I said he SEEMS to be the most ready out of the other kids.
Yes I was going on about TFM, Pereira and Tuanzebe a lot, YOU seem to going on about that fact a lot. Why do you even care about how positive somebody is about Utd's youth prospects? I told you this is a part of football I really enjoy. If you think I talk about them because they are the "hot names from our youth squad" then that is based on as little evidence you think I have to back up my claims about Gomes.
posted on 30/8/19
Performances from pre season mean very little though
....
It is all we have to judge him on. He was out there on the tour with the rest of the youngsters.
You asked what we were judging him on to make the determination he was the most ready to make the step up.
Lastly no one thinks preseason translates to competitive games.
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