comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 26 minutes ago
The state Mourinho left us in is overstated by people that have blind support of Ole.
The squad Jose left us was better than the one LVG left us. The difference was that Mourinho improved the team, squad and results when he took over. Whereas Ole made the has made the team, squad and results worse. So by comparison it looks like Mourinho left the worse team, but it completely ignores that Mourinho was doing a better job.
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I think you're missing the point.
Mourinho didn't overhal anything - he just spend lots and got the best out of the team that he could. He's good at that. So is Allardyce.
Ole is overhauling the squad.
Most of us agreed that it was required.
What Ole is doing would generally mean a period of pain before we see real improvement.
That doesn't mean it'll definitely be a success but it does mean that there's a logical reason as to why we'd expect to see a different 'curve' between the two.
People like the two clowns of our board think that people can't see how Mourinho was achieving more than Ole because they can't engage their brains to a bigger picture than that.
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Jose overhauled the squad and got it working better than this one.
comment by Robb Fernandes (U22311)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 9 minutes ago
The state Mourinho left us in is overstated by people that have blind support of Ole.
The squad Jose left us was better than the one LVG left us. The difference was that Mourinho improved the team, squad and results when he took over. Whereas Ole made the has made the team, squad and results worse. So by comparison it looks like Mourinho left the worse team, but it completely ignores that Mourinho was doing a better job.
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It’s bizarre people can’t see this. Jose is a convenient boogeyman I guess.
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Mourinho is certainly culpable for issues in the squad. But the the longer that Ole’s been in the job, the worse this squad has become in the eyes of many. Usually the ones that slated Mourinho for failing to get much the same squad competing with City when they got 100 points.
The thing that annoys me the most is that history will view Mourinho’s time at United in a far better light than it deserves because of what came before and after.
comment by Robb Fernandes (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 26 minutes ago
The state Mourinho left us in is overstated by people that have blind support of Ole.
The squad Jose left us was better than the one LVG left us. The difference was that Mourinho improved the team, squad and results when he took over. Whereas Ole made the has made the team, squad and results worse. So by comparison it looks like Mourinho left the worse team, but it completely ignores that Mourinho was doing a better job.
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I think you're missing the point.
Mourinho didn't overhal anything - he just spend lots and got the best out of the team that he could. He's good at that. So is Allardyce.
Ole is overhauling the squad.
Most of us agreed that it was required.
What Ole is doing would generally mean a period of pain before we see real improvement.
That doesn't mean it'll definitely be a success but it does mean that there's a logical reason as to why we'd expect to see a different 'curve' between the two.
People like the two clowns of our board think that people can't see how Mourinho was achieving more than Ole because they can't engage their brains to a bigger picture than that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Jose overhauled the squad and got it working better than this one.
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Utds net spend will be equal to City’s under Pep when you finally get Fernando over the line
Jose overhauled the squad?
Bailly Zlatan Pogba Sanchez Mkhitaryan Dalot Lindelof Lukaku Matic Fred were all his I think
That’s an awful lot of wasted money prior to Solskjaers turn with the poisoned chalice
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robb Fernandes (U22311)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 9 minutes ago
The state Mourinho left us in is overstated by people that have blind support of Ole.
The squad Jose left us was better than the one LVG left us. The difference was that Mourinho improved the team, squad and results when he took over. Whereas Ole made the has made the team, squad and results worse. So by comparison it looks like Mourinho left the worse team, but it completely ignores that Mourinho was doing a better job.
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It’s bizarre people can’t see this. Jose is a convenient boogeyman I guess.
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Mourinho is certainly culpable for issues in the squad. But the the longer that Ole’s been in the job, the worse this squad has become in the eyes of many. Usually the ones that slated Mourinho for failing to get much the same squad competing with City when they got 100 points.
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I agree he’s culpable to an extent
But we keep seeing people say that Ole needs to build a midfield - I agree but Jose inherited Rooney at CM, Bastian and Morgan, all three of whom are no better than what Ole got.
Difference is that Jose went out and bought Pogba whereas Ole chose Maguire and AWB.
LVG left Jose with Martial and Rashford. Jose left those two and Lukaku.
Again, people say it was a disaster what Jose left but it was certainly a squad talented enough to go and win 10/11 in a row.
Just don’t see why people have completely let ole off any responsibility unless they are guilty of what I’m guilty of but can’t admit it 🤔
They are exactly the same as you.
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 27 minutes ago
They are exactly the same as you.
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At least I can admit it 😹
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
comment by Robb Fernandes (U22311)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 9 minutes ago
The state Mourinho left us in is overstated by people that have blind support of Ole.
The squad Jose left us was better than the one LVG left us. The difference was that Mourinho improved the team, squad and results when he took over. Whereas Ole made the has made the team, squad and results worse. So by comparison it looks like Mourinho left the worse team, but it completely ignores that Mourinho was doing a better job.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s bizarre people can’t see this. Jose is a convenient boogeyman I guess.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Mourinho is certainly culpable for issues in the squad. But the the longer that Ole’s been in the job, the worse this squad has become in the eyes of many. Usually the ones that slated Mourinho for failing to get much the same squad competing with City when they got 100 points.
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The squad has got worse because Ole has got rid of several players and is still getting rid of others, and is taking his time to replace them.
It’s not difficult to see the difference between the current approach and Jose’s surely?
Appreciate it’s difficult for some of the idiots that use our board but you can see it I’m sure.
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 31 minutes ago
That’s bad management.
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Why?
Because he’s left himself completely unprepared for the season. Which has short and long term implications not just for the future of the team, but for his own job.
But regardless, the point to begin with was that Jose left a worse team than Van Gaal did, which isn’t the case.
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
Because he’s left himself completely unprepared for the season. Which has short and long term implications not just for the future of the team, but for his own job.
But regardless, the point to begin with was that Jose left a worse team than Van Gaal did, which isn’t the case.
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Well that wasn’t the point that I was replying to.
But I don’t agree. The nature of the task means that it was almost guaranteed that the squad would get worse before it got better.
Which is the biggest load of shiiiiit of heard on here.
*I’ve read
Before you get your pedantic, semantic, knickers in a twist.
Clearly you’re not here for a mature discussion so I’ll leave you to it. Thought you were better than that tbh.
It’s not my fault your argument is absolutely terrible.
Sign in if you want to comment
my take.. for what its worth
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posted on 20/1/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 26 minutes ago
The state Mourinho left us in is overstated by people that have blind support of Ole.
The squad Jose left us was better than the one LVG left us. The difference was that Mourinho improved the team, squad and results when he took over. Whereas Ole made the has made the team, squad and results worse. So by comparison it looks like Mourinho left the worse team, but it completely ignores that Mourinho was doing a better job.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think you're missing the point.
Mourinho didn't overhal anything - he just spend lots and got the best out of the team that he could. He's good at that. So is Allardyce.
Ole is overhauling the squad.
Most of us agreed that it was required.
What Ole is doing would generally mean a period of pain before we see real improvement.
That doesn't mean it'll definitely be a success but it does mean that there's a logical reason as to why we'd expect to see a different 'curve' between the two.
People like the two clowns of our board think that people can't see how Mourinho was achieving more than Ole because they can't engage their brains to a bigger picture than that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Jose overhauled the squad and got it working better than this one.
posted on 20/1/20
comment by Robb Fernandes (U22311)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 9 minutes ago
The state Mourinho left us in is overstated by people that have blind support of Ole.
The squad Jose left us was better than the one LVG left us. The difference was that Mourinho improved the team, squad and results when he took over. Whereas Ole made the has made the team, squad and results worse. So by comparison it looks like Mourinho left the worse team, but it completely ignores that Mourinho was doing a better job.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s bizarre people can’t see this. Jose is a convenient boogeyman I guess.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Mourinho is certainly culpable for issues in the squad. But the the longer that Ole’s been in the job, the worse this squad has become in the eyes of many. Usually the ones that slated Mourinho for failing to get much the same squad competing with City when they got 100 points.
posted on 20/1/20
The thing that annoys me the most is that history will view Mourinho’s time at United in a far better light than it deserves because of what came before and after.
posted on 20/1/20
comment by Robb Fernandes (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 26 minutes ago
The state Mourinho left us in is overstated by people that have blind support of Ole.
The squad Jose left us was better than the one LVG left us. The difference was that Mourinho improved the team, squad and results when he took over. Whereas Ole made the has made the team, squad and results worse. So by comparison it looks like Mourinho left the worse team, but it completely ignores that Mourinho was doing a better job.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think you're missing the point.
Mourinho didn't overhal anything - he just spend lots and got the best out of the team that he could. He's good at that. So is Allardyce.
Ole is overhauling the squad.
Most of us agreed that it was required.
What Ole is doing would generally mean a period of pain before we see real improvement.
That doesn't mean it'll definitely be a success but it does mean that there's a logical reason as to why we'd expect to see a different 'curve' between the two.
People like the two clowns of our board think that people can't see how Mourinho was achieving more than Ole because they can't engage their brains to a bigger picture than that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Jose overhauled the squad and got it working better than this one.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Utds net spend will be equal to City’s under Pep when you finally get Fernando over the line
Jose overhauled the squad?
Bailly Zlatan Pogba Sanchez Mkhitaryan Dalot Lindelof Lukaku Matic Fred were all his I think
That’s an awful lot of wasted money prior to Solskjaers turn with the poisoned chalice
posted on 20/1/20
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robb Fernandes (U22311)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 9 minutes ago
The state Mourinho left us in is overstated by people that have blind support of Ole.
The squad Jose left us was better than the one LVG left us. The difference was that Mourinho improved the team, squad and results when he took over. Whereas Ole made the has made the team, squad and results worse. So by comparison it looks like Mourinho left the worse team, but it completely ignores that Mourinho was doing a better job.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s bizarre people can’t see this. Jose is a convenient boogeyman I guess.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Mourinho is certainly culpable for issues in the squad. But the the longer that Ole’s been in the job, the worse this squad has become in the eyes of many. Usually the ones that slated Mourinho for failing to get much the same squad competing with City when they got 100 points.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I agree he’s culpable to an extent
But we keep seeing people say that Ole needs to build a midfield - I agree but Jose inherited Rooney at CM, Bastian and Morgan, all three of whom are no better than what Ole got.
Difference is that Jose went out and bought Pogba whereas Ole chose Maguire and AWB.
LVG left Jose with Martial and Rashford. Jose left those two and Lukaku.
Again, people say it was a disaster what Jose left but it was certainly a squad talented enough to go and win 10/11 in a row.
Just don’t see why people have completely let ole off any responsibility unless they are guilty of what I’m guilty of but can’t admit it 🤔
posted on 20/1/20
They are exactly the same as you.
posted on 20/1/20
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 27 minutes ago
They are exactly the same as you.
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At least I can admit it 😹
posted on 20/1/20
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
comment by Robb Fernandes (U22311)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 9 minutes ago
The state Mourinho left us in is overstated by people that have blind support of Ole.
The squad Jose left us was better than the one LVG left us. The difference was that Mourinho improved the team, squad and results when he took over. Whereas Ole made the has made the team, squad and results worse. So by comparison it looks like Mourinho left the worse team, but it completely ignores that Mourinho was doing a better job.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s bizarre people can’t see this. Jose is a convenient boogeyman I guess.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Mourinho is certainly culpable for issues in the squad. But the the longer that Ole’s been in the job, the worse this squad has become in the eyes of many. Usually the ones that slated Mourinho for failing to get much the same squad competing with City when they got 100 points.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The squad has got worse because Ole has got rid of several players and is still getting rid of others, and is taking his time to replace them.
It’s not difficult to see the difference between the current approach and Jose’s surely?
Appreciate it’s difficult for some of the idiots that use our board but you can see it I’m sure.
posted on 20/1/20
That’s bad management.
posted on 20/1/20
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 31 minutes ago
That’s bad management.
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Why?
posted on 20/1/20
Because he’s left himself completely unprepared for the season. Which has short and long term implications not just for the future of the team, but for his own job.
But regardless, the point to begin with was that Jose left a worse team than Van Gaal did, which isn’t the case.
posted on 20/1/20
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
Because he’s left himself completely unprepared for the season. Which has short and long term implications not just for the future of the team, but for his own job.
But regardless, the point to begin with was that Jose left a worse team than Van Gaal did, which isn’t the case.
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Well that wasn’t the point that I was replying to.
But I don’t agree. The nature of the task means that it was almost guaranteed that the squad would get worse before it got better.
posted on 20/1/20
Which is the biggest load of shiiiiit of heard on here.
posted on 20/1/20
*I’ve read
Before you get your pedantic, semantic, knickers in a twist.
posted on 20/1/20
Clearly you’re not here for a mature discussion so I’ll leave you to it. Thought you were better than that tbh.
posted on 20/1/20
It’s not my fault your argument is absolutely terrible.
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