Well if the reports are true the players complicit.
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 2 hours, 46 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
Well in a way Boris is a victim. He supported City before the buyout, and has done no wrong.
He would be punished along with the club if the ban is upheld
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The only real victims are the other clubs, and their fans, who have done the right thing, acted correctly, and have been denied success they might have otherwise enjoyed due to another club not doing likewise.
Deep down City fans knew full well their club was, and is run by corrupt individuals, but didn't care, as long as they were winning trophies.
Don't have one iota of sympathy for City supporters if I'm being honest.
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True that.
No point reallocating titles that have gone, but maybe they should put a little asterisk next to the winner in the record books
League Champions: Manchester City*
* Cheated
All English clubs should be banned for 2 years.
UEFA set a prescedent with Liverpool in 1985.
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson #TaintedTitle (U5901)
posted 2 minutes ago
All English clubs should be banned for 2 years.
UEFA set a prescedent with Liverpool in 1985.
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I think that was because they'd identified the travelling support of all English clubs as a nuisance.
They've only identified Manchester City as cheats.
All United's European trophies should be annulled because there was no VAR.
My word Boris!
Calm down son, there’s little point in getting so irate!
Boris doesn’t care about the CL apparently.
I don't, it's bent as hell.
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson #TaintedTitle (U5901)
posted 3 minutes ago
I don't, it's bent as hell.
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Should be right up City’s street then
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson #TaintedTitle (U5901)
posted 12 minutes ago
I don't, it's bent as hell.
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Why have you been cheating to try and win it then?
You don’t know if we have or we haven’t yet
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 16 seconds ago
You don’t know if we have or we haven’t yet
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If I was a gambling man I'd put my money on the fact that you have
Something along the lines of 'these rules are unfair to us, we'll just circumvent them. If the other suckers want to play fair that's up to them"
“ First, and most damaging, were emails and accounting documents which appeared to show that City’s owner, Sheikh Mansour, of the Abu Dhabi ruling family, was mostly funding the huge, £67.5m annual sponsorship of the club’s shirt, stadium and academy by his country’s airline, Etihad. That created a perception that the Abu Dhabi hierarchy, in their drive to mega-spend on City attaining elite status while somehow complying with FFP rules, had deceived Uefa in their financial submissions”
Seems legit
I’d put money on both us and Uefa being dodgy though!
Just got to wait and see what happens at CAS.
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 15 seconds ago
“ First, and most damaging, were emails and accounting documents which appeared to show that City’s owner, Sheikh Mansour, of the Abu Dhabi ruling family, was mostly funding the huge, £67.5m annual sponsorship of the club’s shirt, stadium and academy by his country’s airline, Etihad. That created a perception that the Abu Dhabi hierarchy, in their drive to mega-spend on City attaining elite status while somehow complying with FFP rules, had deceived Uefa in their financial submissions”
Seems legit
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Part of that could be legit, which is why whoever wrote that covered themselves.
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 5 minutes ago
You don’t know if we have or we haven’t yet
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Definitely have, it’s just whether Uefa have enough evidence to prove it or if City have covered it up enough to get away with it.
No matter how corrupt you think UEFA are, if they've put rules in place and everyone's playing by them except you, you've cheated to gain an unfair advantage.
Doesn't matter what you think of the organisation or the rule itself.
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 15 seconds ago
“ First, and most damaging, were emails and accounting documents which appeared to show that City’s owner, Sheikh Mansour, of the Abu Dhabi ruling family, was mostly funding the huge, £67.5m annual sponsorship of the club’s shirt, stadium and academy by his country’s airline, Etihad. That created a perception that the Abu Dhabi hierarchy, in their drive to mega-spend on City attaining elite status while somehow complying with FFP rules, had deceived Uefa in their financial submissions”
Seems legit
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Part of that could be legit, which is why whoever wrote that covered themselves.
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Which part?
"FFP is being introduced to stop clubs going into debt"
comment by The Post Nearly Man. Je suis européen. (U1270)
posted 5 seconds ago
No matter how corrupt you think UEFA are, if they've put rules in place and everyone's playing by them except you, you've cheated to gain an unfair advantage.
Doesn't matter what you think of the organisation or the rule itself.
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It’s like saying our government/MP’s are corrupt so I can avoid paying taxes and not expect punishment
No matter how corrupt you think UEFA are, if they've put rules in place and everyone's playing by them except you, you've cheated to gain an unfair advantage.
Were Liverpool playing by them when they overspent?
comment by The Post Nearly Man. Je suis européen. (U1270)
posted 1 minute ago
No matter how corrupt you think UEFA are, if they've put rules in place and everyone's playing by them except you, you've cheated to gain an unfair advantage.
Doesn't matter what you think of the organisation or the rule itself.
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I know, it matters about whether the allegations are true though and can be proven in court.
Sign in if you want to comment
Uefa are a corrupt organisation
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posted on 15/2/20
Well if the reports are true the players complicit.
posted on 15/2/20
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 2 hours, 46 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
Well in a way Boris is a victim. He supported City before the buyout, and has done no wrong.
He would be punished along with the club if the ban is upheld
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The only real victims are the other clubs, and their fans, who have done the right thing, acted correctly, and have been denied success they might have otherwise enjoyed due to another club not doing likewise.
Deep down City fans knew full well their club was, and is run by corrupt individuals, but didn't care, as long as they were winning trophies.
Don't have one iota of sympathy for City supporters if I'm being honest.
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True that.
No point reallocating titles that have gone, but maybe they should put a little asterisk next to the winner in the record books
League Champions: Manchester City*
* Cheated
posted on 15/2/20
All English clubs should be banned for 2 years.
UEFA set a prescedent with Liverpool in 1985.
posted on 15/2/20
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson #TaintedTitle (U5901)
posted 2 minutes ago
All English clubs should be banned for 2 years.
UEFA set a prescedent with Liverpool in 1985.
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I think that was because they'd identified the travelling support of all English clubs as a nuisance.
They've only identified Manchester City as cheats.
posted on 15/2/20
All United's European trophies should be annulled because there was no VAR.
posted on 15/2/20
...or FFP.
posted on 15/2/20
My word Boris!
Calm down son, there’s little point in getting so irate!
posted on 15/2/20
Boris doesn’t care about the CL apparently.
posted on 15/2/20
I don't, it's bent as hell.
posted on 15/2/20
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson #TaintedTitle (U5901)
posted 3 minutes ago
I don't, it's bent as hell.
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Should be right up City’s street then
posted on 15/2/20
So is your club, ffs.
posted on 15/2/20
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson #TaintedTitle (U5901)
posted 12 minutes ago
I don't, it's bent as hell.
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Why have you been cheating to try and win it then?
posted on 15/2/20
You don’t know if we have or we haven’t yet
posted on 15/2/20
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 16 seconds ago
You don’t know if we have or we haven’t yet
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If I was a gambling man I'd put my money on the fact that you have
Something along the lines of 'these rules are unfair to us, we'll just circumvent them. If the other suckers want to play fair that's up to them"
posted on 15/2/20
“ First, and most damaging, were emails and accounting documents which appeared to show that City’s owner, Sheikh Mansour, of the Abu Dhabi ruling family, was mostly funding the huge, £67.5m annual sponsorship of the club’s shirt, stadium and academy by his country’s airline, Etihad. That created a perception that the Abu Dhabi hierarchy, in their drive to mega-spend on City attaining elite status while somehow complying with FFP rules, had deceived Uefa in their financial submissions”
Seems legit
posted on 15/2/20
I’d put money on both us and Uefa being dodgy though!
Just got to wait and see what happens at CAS.
posted on 15/2/20
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 15 seconds ago
“ First, and most damaging, were emails and accounting documents which appeared to show that City’s owner, Sheikh Mansour, of the Abu Dhabi ruling family, was mostly funding the huge, £67.5m annual sponsorship of the club’s shirt, stadium and academy by his country’s airline, Etihad. That created a perception that the Abu Dhabi hierarchy, in their drive to mega-spend on City attaining elite status while somehow complying with FFP rules, had deceived Uefa in their financial submissions”
Seems legit
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Part of that could be legit, which is why whoever wrote that covered themselves.
posted on 15/2/20
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 5 minutes ago
You don’t know if we have or we haven’t yet
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Definitely have, it’s just whether Uefa have enough evidence to prove it or if City have covered it up enough to get away with it.
posted on 15/2/20
How does that work then?
posted on 15/2/20
No matter how corrupt you think UEFA are, if they've put rules in place and everyone's playing by them except you, you've cheated to gain an unfair advantage.
Doesn't matter what you think of the organisation or the rule itself.
posted on 15/2/20
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 15 seconds ago
“ First, and most damaging, were emails and accounting documents which appeared to show that City’s owner, Sheikh Mansour, of the Abu Dhabi ruling family, was mostly funding the huge, £67.5m annual sponsorship of the club’s shirt, stadium and academy by his country’s airline, Etihad. That created a perception that the Abu Dhabi hierarchy, in their drive to mega-spend on City attaining elite status while somehow complying with FFP rules, had deceived Uefa in their financial submissions”
Seems legit
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Part of that could be legit, which is why whoever wrote that covered themselves.
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Which part?
posted on 15/2/20
"FFP is being introduced to stop clubs going into debt"
posted on 15/2/20
comment by The Post Nearly Man. Je suis européen. (U1270)
posted 5 seconds ago
No matter how corrupt you think UEFA are, if they've put rules in place and everyone's playing by them except you, you've cheated to gain an unfair advantage.
Doesn't matter what you think of the organisation or the rule itself.
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It’s like saying our government/MP’s are corrupt so I can avoid paying taxes and not expect punishment
posted on 15/2/20
No matter how corrupt you think UEFA are, if they've put rules in place and everyone's playing by them except you, you've cheated to gain an unfair advantage.
Were Liverpool playing by them when they overspent?
posted on 15/2/20
comment by The Post Nearly Man. Je suis européen. (U1270)
posted 1 minute ago
No matter how corrupt you think UEFA are, if they've put rules in place and everyone's playing by them except you, you've cheated to gain an unfair advantage.
Doesn't matter what you think of the organisation or the rule itself.
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I know, it matters about whether the allegations are true though and can be proven in court.
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