comment by Laugh at Messi (U18355)
posted 1 minute ago
We are planning to replace him with a Championship keeper ffsNo doubt you will be applauding the signing of Raya should it happen.
I swear I just can’t with some Arsenal fans. They deserve the mediocrity they are getting.
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So we're replacing our No2 GK , who's been playing Championship level most of his career with a Championship GK, shock.
A goalkeeping perfectionist walked into a bar and immediately walked back out..apparently, the bar wasn’t set high enough.
I really feel bad about he is being sold. He is our no. 1 now and Leno should be the one who should be fighting back.
Weird that Villa wanted to buy the better goalkeeper on lower wages, I can’t believe it, very strange
Selling Martinez is crackpot - he’s been brilliant (I have always thought he had massive potential) and now we are selling him ! 😡
If Martinez was.a Liverpool player he would be getting sold for around 30Mil min. We as usual always keep selling players on the cheap.
Villa just spent over 32mil on a championship striker ffs.
Of it funds partey/aouar then it's a necessary evil
£20m is reasonable in this type of 'corona market' for a goalkeeper that has proven himself as being able to perform at a top quality level for a small time-frame, there is still an element of risk in this for Villa, had he been our #1 all season and performed this way consistently for that length of time then £30m sure.
Let's not forget that he rejected a new contract we offered him with a significant pay-rise which gives the buying club more power at the negotiating table.
If we are smart, we put a 20-25% sell on fee in the deal and another £5m when he reached 100 appearances for Villa.
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 4 hours, 30 minutes ago
comment by Aubameyang FC (If he goes, I go) (U3245)
posted 33 seconds ago
you should be picked on your performances, not your total club history then.
emi has reached a higher standard in 15 games than leno has done in his whole career.
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That's your opinion, i highly disagree with it though..comparing 15 games, with no fans etc at the tail end of the season to 62 games with fans, different (worse) manager, defence, no structure etc is not a fair comparison imo.
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You will not convince them. Save your fingers!
Emi is a great goalie. So is Leno. Ideally we keep both. But NO ONE on this board knows what is going on behind the scenes. No ONE. We dont know about contracts etc. Emi has a year left right? If he would not sign one without guarantees of being 1st pick, then let him go. We donno who is training better right now...etc etc.
Also..for all the Emi fan boys...why is it that Emi is 27 and has been at the club since he was 16/17 and has NEVER challenged for the #1 spot?? We had Sczcsny, Ospina, Cech in that time. We know that yes keepers peak later, but by 24, 25, he should have been ready for at least cup games. And if he was promising enough, he would have taken over from Cech who was a shadow of his former self. Instead we had to stump 22m for Leno and he has been brilliant. Every goalie makes a mistake...Leno has saved us countless times where no one would have blamed him if he did not. That is why there were no massive issues with the 2 high profile mistakes he made (chelsea and Europa - and the Europa one...a corner does not always necessitate a forthcoming goal). We appreciated that he has gone above and beyond.
Yet here we are with people crying over a goalie who has played 15 games under no massive pressure and with a heck of a lot more stable a defense.
Again..Emi is a great goalie...but if he wants to leave to get 1st team GUARANTEED football, I wish him the very best.
comment by MaineGunner (U10130)
posted 1 minute ago
Emi is a great goalie. So is Leno. Ideally we keep both. But NO ONE on this board knows what is going on behind the scenes. No ONE. We dont know about contracts etc. Emi has a year left right? If he would not sign one without guarantees of being 1st pick, then let him go. We donno who is training better right now...etc etc.
Also..for all the Emi fan boys...why is it that Emi is 27 and has been at the club since he was 16/17 and has NEVER challenged for the #1 spot?? We had Sczcsny, Ospina, Cech in that time. We know that yes keepers peak later, but by 24, 25, he should have been ready for at least cup games. And if he was promising enough, he would have taken over from Cech who was a shadow of his former self. Instead we had to stump 22m for Leno and he has been brilliant. Every goalie makes a mistake...Leno has saved us countless times where no one would have blamed him if he did not. That is why there were no massive issues with the 2 high profile mistakes he made (chelsea and Europa - and the Europa one...a corner does not always necessitate a forthcoming goal). We appreciated that he has gone above and beyond.
Yet here we are with people crying over a goalie who has played 15 games under no massive pressure and with a heck of a lot more stable a defense.
Again..Emi is a great goalie...but if he wants to leave to get 1st team GUARANTEED football, I wish him the very best.
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Well said mate
Don't know why all this over thinking. This is pretty straight forward.
Leno wants to be no.1
Martinez wants to be no.1
Martinez told Arteta that is the only way he signs a new contract. As he only has 2 years remaining this was the critical juncture. Arteta obviously doesn't like to be told who to select. Not from Edu. Not from agents. And definitely not from players as Ozil and Goeundozi have found out.
So its adios Emi.
I thought it was all agent talk Jenius and we would never sell Emi 🤔
comment by MaineGunner (U10130)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
Emi is a great goalie. So is Leno. Ideally we keep both. But NO ONE on this board knows what is going on behind the scenes. No ONE. We dont know about contracts etc. Emi has a year left right? If he would not sign one without guarantees of being 1st pick, then let him go. We donno who is training better right now...etc etc.
Also..for all the Emi fan boys...why is it that Emi is 27 and has been at the club since he was 16/17 and has NEVER challenged for the #1 spot?? We had Sczcsny, Ospina, Cech in that time. We know that yes keepers peak later, but by 24, 25, he should have been ready for at least cup games. And if he was promising enough, he would have taken over from Cech who was a shadow of his former self. Instead we had to stump 22m for Leno and he has been brilliant. Every goalie makes a mistake...Leno has saved us countless times where no one would have blamed him if he did not. That is why there were no massive issues with the 2 high profile mistakes he made (chelsea and Europa - and the Europa one...a corner does not always necessitate a forthcoming goal). We appreciated that he has gone above and beyond.
Yet here we are with people crying over a goalie who has played 15 games under no massive pressure and with a heck of a lot more stable a defense.
Again..Emi is a great goalie...but if he wants to leave to get 1st team GUARANTEED football, I wish him the very best.
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None of the past really matters though. I personally was dreading the worst when Emi came in for Leno but he has been miles better based on the appearances he’s made. That’s undisputed. If you are given a rare opportunity and you take it, the reward shouldn’t be to sit back on the bench.
The message it sends out is no matter how bad Leno plays (and make no mistake his performances have been extremely overrated, I’ve been saying that long before his injury), he will get his spot back in the team. What sort of incentive is that for any sort of capable back up to join us?
We had the same garbage with Giroud for years. Kept his place no matter what and the few times he was dislodged from the team, it only took one bad game from his replacement for him to get his spot back.
Arteta: “I think the [goalkeeper] that in my opinion is training better with the goalkeeping coach has the better chance to start tomorrow and my decision will be consistent like that throughout this season.
“Then it’s for the other one to push and make him better and when his chance comes, be ready and help the team as they both did last season. Both were fantastic in my opinion.”
So, assuming Martinez is still with the club tomorrow, if he starts, judging by the manager's words, he stays.
Because he can't be seen to say that the guy who is about to leave is training better than the guy who is staying.
Tune in tomorrow to find out what happens in the next thrilling(ish) episode of 'STOP SELLING MY FAVOURITE FACKING PLAYERS, STAN!'*
Fast forward to 11:30 Saturday 12/09/20...
Leno starts.
Macey on the bench.
Bats, I would prefer to keep him and, like you, believe his all-round qualities have outshone Leno's in the 15-20 games he's played.
However, he's supposedly rejected two contract offers from us and doesn't seem to want any (clear) competition for his place. From what we've seen, he's easily good enough to go to a better club than Brighton or Aston Villa, but if it's that security of playing every week that he wants, we simply cannot guarantee him that.
He's been near faultless since Leno's injury against Brighton, but is that enough of a sample size to say he'll be like this for the long term? Or is he riding on the crest of a wave? I'm not sure.
The other issue is our unbalanced squad. The players that we want to sell/get rid of is hard because they're on high wages which other clubs don't want to pay. Especially during a global pandemic. And, as much as it may pain us, but taking the emotion out of it, if that £20m+ for Emi goes towards funding the Aourar or Partey moves, it's surely worth it when our midfield is dire right now. And we don't need two very good goalkeepers on the bench. How many of the top clubs do? I can't think of any.
Ultimately, it seems like it's the player who is pushing this more than the club. And if that's the situation, with the state our squad currently is in, we're right to sell.
If Arteta is satisfied to let him go, then we should trust him. He's done enough to earn it.
*two very good goalkeepers in our squad that should say
Emi wont travel to Fulham tomorrow.
I disagree Samir. I really find it hard to believe that a guy who has spent 10 years warming our bench or being sent out on loan has suddenly demanded he starts every game or he is off.
I also find it hard to believe that Arteta wants to sell him, especially when he started him vs Liverpool.
I also find it especially hard to believe that Arteta would tell Emi after his incredible performances that he would not start the season as #1. Maybe he has told him he has a fight on his hands to keep #1 but Emi surely isn’t unreasonable enough to expect anything else.
To me it just looks like his value has 10x since the start of lockdown and the board have decided to step in and push the sale when they realised the backlash of selling AMN would have been too big to take. It can’t be a coincidence that all the players being linked away from the club are players we’ve got for dirt cheap and can be moved on at a massive profit.
There’s not a single person after the FA Cup final who would have suggested to sell or even bench Emi so I don’t see why they are suddenly trying to justify moving him on now, even going as far as suggesting Leno has outperformed him and ‘proved himself’ more capable (not directed at you btw)
comment by Laugh at Messi (U18355)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
I thought it was all agent talk Jenius and we would never sell Emi 🤔
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It was a negotiation and Arsenal didn't want to accept Emi's terms. Not sure what you mean tbh. I am not Arteta. As I said in the same thread you are quoting my post from. For me it was far more logical to sell Leno. But I don't see them in training.
🤷
Arteta is now the manager not just the head coach.
I think the change in designation should tell you everything if anyone wants to spin a conspiracy. 🧐
Bats, you say this, but he's 28 years old and he's only played just over 100 games in his career. He's said before in interviews that he's not at Arsenal to be a benchwarmer and that, if he didn't get his chance this season, he was going to leave regardless.
I do genuinely think he's now at an age where he just wants to play.
As for Arteta, his 'promotion' to first-team manager shows that he's more influential in these transfer decisions than we initially thought. Given his impact in a relatively short space of time, and his good relationship with Vinai and Edu, I really don't think they'd sell Emi if Arteta pleaded for him to remain at the club.
Like I said. I want him to stay and believe he'll progress here. He's well liked and been at Arsenal for 10 years. However, if he's rejecting two contract offers from us, and isn't content with whatever Arteta or the club have told him, we have to sell.
If (and I am conscious it's a big "if" ) that money goes towards our main midfield transfer targets, people won't complain. It could be a 'necessary evil'. Obviously if we spend a huge chunk of that fee replacing him with Raya, then it'll be a hugely unpopular (and bizarre) decision. But I don't want to be too reactive just yet. I want to see how it plays out.
To reiterate - for me, his performances have been more impressive than anything I've seen from Leno. If he doesn't want to stay on the terms we've offered though, it'd be unfair to keep him at the club against his will.
It sucks, and it might feel unfair, but the reality is he's leaving. So let's try and get the best fee we can to reinvest in the squad.
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 6 hours, 15 minutes ago
Don't know why all this over thinking. This is pretty straight forward.
Leno wants to be no.1
Martinez wants to be no.1
Martinez told Arteta that is the only way he signs a new contract. As he only has 2 years remaining this was the critical juncture. Arteta obviously doesn't like to be told who to select. Not from Edu. Not from agents. And definitely not from players as Ozil and Goeundozi have found out.
So its adios Emi.
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I think you're right, Martinez demanded the No.1 spot and Arteta won't play that game so with 1 year on his contract he has to go - it's a big shame as his ability to command his area is a big plus, but I understand that Arteta won't tolerate being dictated to.
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posted on 11/9/20
comment by Laugh at Messi (U18355)
posted 1 minute ago
We are planning to replace him with a Championship keeper ffsNo doubt you will be applauding the signing of Raya should it happen.
I swear I just can’t with some Arsenal fans. They deserve the mediocrity they are getting.
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So we're replacing our No2 GK , who's been playing Championship level most of his career with a Championship GK, shock.
posted on 11/9/20
A goalkeeping perfectionist walked into a bar and immediately walked back out..apparently, the bar wasn’t set high enough.
posted on 11/9/20
I really feel bad about he is being sold. He is our no. 1 now and Leno should be the one who should be fighting back.
posted on 11/9/20
Weird that Villa wanted to buy the better goalkeeper on lower wages, I can’t believe it, very strange
posted on 11/9/20
Selling Martinez is crackpot - he’s been brilliant (I have always thought he had massive potential) and now we are selling him ! 😡
posted on 11/9/20
If Martinez was.a Liverpool player he would be getting sold for around 30Mil min. We as usual always keep selling players on the cheap.
Villa just spent over 32mil on a championship striker ffs.
posted on 11/9/20
Of it funds partey/aouar then it's a necessary evil
posted on 11/9/20
£20m is reasonable in this type of 'corona market' for a goalkeeper that has proven himself as being able to perform at a top quality level for a small time-frame, there is still an element of risk in this for Villa, had he been our #1 all season and performed this way consistently for that length of time then £30m sure.
Let's not forget that he rejected a new contract we offered him with a significant pay-rise which gives the buying club more power at the negotiating table.
If we are smart, we put a 20-25% sell on fee in the deal and another £5m when he reached 100 appearances for Villa.
posted on 11/9/20
*reaches
posted on 11/9/20
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 4 hours, 30 minutes ago
comment by Aubameyang FC (If he goes, I go) (U3245)
posted 33 seconds ago
you should be picked on your performances, not your total club history then.
emi has reached a higher standard in 15 games than leno has done in his whole career.
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That's your opinion, i highly disagree with it though..comparing 15 games, with no fans etc at the tail end of the season to 62 games with fans, different (worse) manager, defence, no structure etc is not a fair comparison imo.
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You will not convince them. Save your fingers!
posted on 11/9/20
Emi is a great goalie. So is Leno. Ideally we keep both. But NO ONE on this board knows what is going on behind the scenes. No ONE. We dont know about contracts etc. Emi has a year left right? If he would not sign one without guarantees of being 1st pick, then let him go. We donno who is training better right now...etc etc.
Also..for all the Emi fan boys...why is it that Emi is 27 and has been at the club since he was 16/17 and has NEVER challenged for the #1 spot?? We had Sczcsny, Ospina, Cech in that time. We know that yes keepers peak later, but by 24, 25, he should have been ready for at least cup games. And if he was promising enough, he would have taken over from Cech who was a shadow of his former self. Instead we had to stump 22m for Leno and he has been brilliant. Every goalie makes a mistake...Leno has saved us countless times where no one would have blamed him if he did not. That is why there were no massive issues with the 2 high profile mistakes he made (chelsea and Europa - and the Europa one...a corner does not always necessitate a forthcoming goal). We appreciated that he has gone above and beyond.
Yet here we are with people crying over a goalie who has played 15 games under no massive pressure and with a heck of a lot more stable a defense.
Again..Emi is a great goalie...but if he wants to leave to get 1st team GUARANTEED football, I wish him the very best.
posted on 11/9/20
comment by MaineGunner (U10130)
posted 1 minute ago
Emi is a great goalie. So is Leno. Ideally we keep both. But NO ONE on this board knows what is going on behind the scenes. No ONE. We dont know about contracts etc. Emi has a year left right? If he would not sign one without guarantees of being 1st pick, then let him go. We donno who is training better right now...etc etc.
Also..for all the Emi fan boys...why is it that Emi is 27 and has been at the club since he was 16/17 and has NEVER challenged for the #1 spot?? We had Sczcsny, Ospina, Cech in that time. We know that yes keepers peak later, but by 24, 25, he should have been ready for at least cup games. And if he was promising enough, he would have taken over from Cech who was a shadow of his former self. Instead we had to stump 22m for Leno and he has been brilliant. Every goalie makes a mistake...Leno has saved us countless times where no one would have blamed him if he did not. That is why there were no massive issues with the 2 high profile mistakes he made (chelsea and Europa - and the Europa one...a corner does not always necessitate a forthcoming goal). We appreciated that he has gone above and beyond.
Yet here we are with people crying over a goalie who has played 15 games under no massive pressure and with a heck of a lot more stable a defense.
Again..Emi is a great goalie...but if he wants to leave to get 1st team GUARANTEED football, I wish him the very best.
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Well said mate
posted on 11/9/20
Don't know why all this over thinking. This is pretty straight forward.
Leno wants to be no.1
Martinez wants to be no.1
Martinez told Arteta that is the only way he signs a new contract. As he only has 2 years remaining this was the critical juncture. Arteta obviously doesn't like to be told who to select. Not from Edu. Not from agents. And definitely not from players as Ozil and Goeundozi have found out.
So its adios Emi.
posted on 11/9/20
I thought it was all agent talk Jenius and we would never sell Emi 🤔
posted on 11/9/20
comment by MaineGunner (U10130)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
Emi is a great goalie. So is Leno. Ideally we keep both. But NO ONE on this board knows what is going on behind the scenes. No ONE. We dont know about contracts etc. Emi has a year left right? If he would not sign one without guarantees of being 1st pick, then let him go. We donno who is training better right now...etc etc.
Also..for all the Emi fan boys...why is it that Emi is 27 and has been at the club since he was 16/17 and has NEVER challenged for the #1 spot?? We had Sczcsny, Ospina, Cech in that time. We know that yes keepers peak later, but by 24, 25, he should have been ready for at least cup games. And if he was promising enough, he would have taken over from Cech who was a shadow of his former self. Instead we had to stump 22m for Leno and he has been brilliant. Every goalie makes a mistake...Leno has saved us countless times where no one would have blamed him if he did not. That is why there were no massive issues with the 2 high profile mistakes he made (chelsea and Europa - and the Europa one...a corner does not always necessitate a forthcoming goal). We appreciated that he has gone above and beyond.
Yet here we are with people crying over a goalie who has played 15 games under no massive pressure and with a heck of a lot more stable a defense.
Again..Emi is a great goalie...but if he wants to leave to get 1st team GUARANTEED football, I wish him the very best.
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None of the past really matters though. I personally was dreading the worst when Emi came in for Leno but he has been miles better based on the appearances he’s made. That’s undisputed. If you are given a rare opportunity and you take it, the reward shouldn’t be to sit back on the bench.
The message it sends out is no matter how bad Leno plays (and make no mistake his performances have been extremely overrated, I’ve been saying that long before his injury), he will get his spot back in the team. What sort of incentive is that for any sort of capable back up to join us?
posted on 11/9/20
We had the same garbage with Giroud for years. Kept his place no matter what and the few times he was dislodged from the team, it only took one bad game from his replacement for him to get his spot back.
posted on 11/9/20
Arteta: “I think the [goalkeeper] that in my opinion is training better with the goalkeeping coach has the better chance to start tomorrow and my decision will be consistent like that throughout this season.
“Then it’s for the other one to push and make him better and when his chance comes, be ready and help the team as they both did last season. Both were fantastic in my opinion.”
So, assuming Martinez is still with the club tomorrow, if he starts, judging by the manager's words, he stays.
Because he can't be seen to say that the guy who is about to leave is training better than the guy who is staying.
Tune in tomorrow to find out what happens in the next thrilling(ish) episode of 'STOP SELLING MY FAVOURITE FACKING PLAYERS, STAN!'*
Fast forward to 11:30 Saturday 12/09/20...
Leno starts.
Macey on the bench.
posted on 11/9/20
Bats, I would prefer to keep him and, like you, believe his all-round qualities have outshone Leno's in the 15-20 games he's played.
However, he's supposedly rejected two contract offers from us and doesn't seem to want any (clear) competition for his place. From what we've seen, he's easily good enough to go to a better club than Brighton or Aston Villa, but if it's that security of playing every week that he wants, we simply cannot guarantee him that.
He's been near faultless since Leno's injury against Brighton, but is that enough of a sample size to say he'll be like this for the long term? Or is he riding on the crest of a wave? I'm not sure.
The other issue is our unbalanced squad. The players that we want to sell/get rid of is hard because they're on high wages which other clubs don't want to pay. Especially during a global pandemic. And, as much as it may pain us, but taking the emotion out of it, if that £20m+ for Emi goes towards funding the Aourar or Partey moves, it's surely worth it when our midfield is dire right now. And we don't need two very good goalkeepers on the bench. How many of the top clubs do? I can't think of any.
Ultimately, it seems like it's the player who is pushing this more than the club. And if that's the situation, with the state our squad currently is in, we're right to sell.
If Arteta is satisfied to let him go, then we should trust him. He's done enough to earn it.
posted on 11/9/20
*two very good goalkeepers in our squad that should say
posted on 11/9/20
Emi wont travel to Fulham tomorrow.
posted on 11/9/20
I disagree Samir. I really find it hard to believe that a guy who has spent 10 years warming our bench or being sent out on loan has suddenly demanded he starts every game or he is off.
I also find it hard to believe that Arteta wants to sell him, especially when he started him vs Liverpool.
I also find it especially hard to believe that Arteta would tell Emi after his incredible performances that he would not start the season as #1. Maybe he has told him he has a fight on his hands to keep #1 but Emi surely isn’t unreasonable enough to expect anything else.
To me it just looks like his value has 10x since the start of lockdown and the board have decided to step in and push the sale when they realised the backlash of selling AMN would have been too big to take. It can’t be a coincidence that all the players being linked away from the club are players we’ve got for dirt cheap and can be moved on at a massive profit.
There’s not a single person after the FA Cup final who would have suggested to sell or even bench Emi so I don’t see why they are suddenly trying to justify moving him on now, even going as far as suggesting Leno has outperformed him and ‘proved himself’ more capable (not directed at you btw)
posted on 11/9/20
comment by Laugh at Messi (U18355)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
I thought it was all agent talk Jenius and we would never sell Emi 🤔
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It was a negotiation and Arsenal didn't want to accept Emi's terms. Not sure what you mean tbh. I am not Arteta. As I said in the same thread you are quoting my post from. For me it was far more logical to sell Leno. But I don't see them in training.
🤷
posted on 11/9/20
Arteta is now the manager not just the head coach.
I think the change in designation should tell you everything if anyone wants to spin a conspiracy. 🧐
posted on 11/9/20
Bats, you say this, but he's 28 years old and he's only played just over 100 games in his career. He's said before in interviews that he's not at Arsenal to be a benchwarmer and that, if he didn't get his chance this season, he was going to leave regardless.
I do genuinely think he's now at an age where he just wants to play.
As for Arteta, his 'promotion' to first-team manager shows that he's more influential in these transfer decisions than we initially thought. Given his impact in a relatively short space of time, and his good relationship with Vinai and Edu, I really don't think they'd sell Emi if Arteta pleaded for him to remain at the club.
Like I said. I want him to stay and believe he'll progress here. He's well liked and been at Arsenal for 10 years. However, if he's rejecting two contract offers from us, and isn't content with whatever Arteta or the club have told him, we have to sell.
If (and I am conscious it's a big "if" ) that money goes towards our main midfield transfer targets, people won't complain. It could be a 'necessary evil'. Obviously if we spend a huge chunk of that fee replacing him with Raya, then it'll be a hugely unpopular (and bizarre) decision. But I don't want to be too reactive just yet. I want to see how it plays out.
To reiterate - for me, his performances have been more impressive than anything I've seen from Leno. If he doesn't want to stay on the terms we've offered though, it'd be unfair to keep him at the club against his will.
It sucks, and it might feel unfair, but the reality is he's leaving. So let's try and get the best fee we can to reinvest in the squad.
posted on 11/9/20
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 6 hours, 15 minutes ago
Don't know why all this over thinking. This is pretty straight forward.
Leno wants to be no.1
Martinez wants to be no.1
Martinez told Arteta that is the only way he signs a new contract. As he only has 2 years remaining this was the critical juncture. Arteta obviously doesn't like to be told who to select. Not from Edu. Not from agents. And definitely not from players as Ozil and Goeundozi have found out.
So its adios Emi.
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I think you're right, Martinez demanded the No.1 spot and Arteta won't play that game so with 1 year on his contract he has to go - it's a big shame as his ability to command his area is a big plus, but I understand that Arteta won't tolerate being dictated to.
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