It will be interesting to see if West Ham play their best players against City now they've progressed.
For all the talk of us having a weak squad outside the first 11 we’ve played 7, won 6 and drawn 1. United with their supposed superior squad, Culer’s words not a general opinion amongst United fans, they’ve played 7, won 4, drawn 1 and lost 2. Plus I’d hazard a guess we’ve rotated more.
Liverpool fans really do make me laugh. Apparently we are no better than last year but last year we started poorly and this year we are joint top.
Nothing separates us, Chelsea or Liverpool. So if we aren't better than last year then what are we? Also bare in mind the injuries at Anfield and Chelsea's 'title clincher' Lukaku who won't do anything in big games as usual.
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 3 minutes ago
Joint top?
You're 3rd.
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No team has more points than us in the league. We are joint top.
Also if you don't get at least 4 points from City and Liverpool your title race is done.
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 6 minutes ago
Joint top?
You're 3rd.
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We are joint top.
Deflect, deny, distract. Some class tactics in gaslighting. OP's claims are just speculations bordering on gaslighting. In reality, the current signs just show unprepared Utd in CL/cups and lucky Utd in the PL. We're yet to see that solidity needed to be #1. Chelsea and Liverpool have shown signs of this. Hopefully, Utd can do that asap.
No one takes you seriously because of this sort of wummery
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 10 minutes ago
Liverpool fans really do make me laugh. Apparently we are no better than last year but last year we started poorly and this year we are joint top.
Nothing separates us, Chelsea or Liverpool. So if we aren't better than last year then what are we? Also bare in mind the injuries at Anfield and Chelsea's 'title clincher' Lukaku who won't do anything in big games as usual.
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You aren't any better than last season across all competitions, still inconsistent with your results and that will cost you in the league. I can't say Man United winning 7/8 league games on the trot, on top of all the midweek games, which I can see in all of Liverpool, Chelsea and Man City.
Surely with the amount of injuries Liverpool have, they can't be level on points (and above) Man United with all of your world class players? Something doesn't add up.
But you make sure you email the Premier League and ask them to split the trophy into thirds as well.
Your game on Saturday has been brought forward because of a Courteeners gig.
That wouldn't have happened under Fergie.
I'm sure there's a gag about playing 2nd fiddle somewhere in that as well.
comment by TENƎꓕ (U17162)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 6 minutes ago
Joint top?
You're 3rd.
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We are joint top.
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We had all this last year with scousers insisting they were joint top, when second to Spurs.
Mate, you are third. If the season finished now, you would be third. Goal difference is a factual decider, and two teams have better goal difference, hence they are first and second.
Culer I’m amazed a man of your abusive talents and success has the time to do these articles? How do you find time, can’t rely on your staff seeing you bullied all the pregnant women out on video conference.
How do you do it??
Liverpool and Chelsea are joint 3rd.
comment by LustyMonc (U22632)
posted 30 minutes ago
Deflect, deny, distract. Some class tactics in gaslighting. OP's claims are just speculations bordering on gaslighting. In reality, the current signs just show unprepared Utd in CL/cups and lucky Utd in the PL. We're yet to see that solidity needed to be #1. Chelsea and Liverpool have shown signs of this. Hopefully, Utd can do that asap.
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It's interesting what you refer to as deflect, deny and distract. I know this is a footie forum but when I used to train my sales team back in the day I implemented a brand new sales objection handling system called
'The three Ds'
I did make a slight alteration to the D's due to ethical selling, so instead of using the word 'deny' we used 'derail'
Deflect
DISTRACT
De-rail
So if the customer raised a point that could scupper the sale we would deflect it, then distract them and ultimately de-rail the objection.
I did have to change the name of the system because some daft woman complained about it being inappropriate! Apparently she didn't like it when I told her she was that s*ite at obection handling, it was as if she didn't want the three Ds to leave her mouth.
Silly cow, but I managed her out..
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by LustyMonc (U22632)
posted 30 minutes ago
Deflect, deny, distract. Some class tactics in gaslighting. OP's claims are just speculations bordering on gaslighting. In reality, the current signs just show unprepared Utd in CL/cups and lucky Utd in the PL. We're yet to see that solidity needed to be #1. Chelsea and Liverpool have shown signs of this. Hopefully, Utd can do that asap.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's interesting what you refer to as deflect, deny and distract. I know this is a footie forum but when I used to train my sales team back in the day I implemented a brand new sales objection handling system called
'The three Ds'
I did make a slight alteration to the D's due to ethical selling, so instead of using the word 'deny' we used 'derail'
Deflect
DISTRACT
De-rail
So if the customer raised a point that could scupper the sale we would deflect it, then distract them and ultimately de-rail the objection.
I did have to change the name of the system because some daft woman complained about it being inappropriate! Apparently she didn't like it when I told her she was that s*ite at obection handling, it was as if she didn't want the three Ds to leave her mouth.
Silly cow, but I managed her out..
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That’s all very nice but you haven’t answered my question.
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by LustyMonc (U22632)
posted 30 minutes ago
Deflect, deny, distract. Some class tactics in gaslighting. OP's claims are just speculations bordering on gaslighting. In reality, the current signs just show unprepared Utd in CL/cups and lucky Utd in the PL. We're yet to see that solidity needed to be #1. Chelsea and Liverpool have shown signs of this. Hopefully, Utd can do that asap.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's interesting what you refer to as deflect, deny and distract. I know this is a footie forum but when I used to train my sales team back in the day I implemented a brand new sales objection handling system called
'The three Ds'
I did make a slight alteration to the D's due to ethical selling, so instead of using the word 'deny' we used 'derail'
Deflect
DISTRACT
De-rail
So if the customer raised a point that could scupper the sale we would deflect it, then distract them and ultimately de-rail the objection.
I did have to change the name of the system because some daft woman complained about it being inappropriate! Apparently she didn't like it when I told her she was that s*ite at obection handling, it was as if she didn't want the three Ds to leave her mouth.
Silly cow, but I managed her out..
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It's like listening to David Brent. Whoever this WUM is, I have to doff my cap to you. The profile is one of the best things I've ever read on here before.
It's like listening to David Brent.
—
it’s a brilliant character
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by LustyMonc (U22632)
posted 30 minutes ago
Deflect, deny, distract. Some class tactics in gaslighting. OP's claims are just speculations bordering on gaslighting. In reality, the current signs just show unprepared Utd in CL/cups and lucky Utd in the PL. We're yet to see that solidity needed to be #1. Chelsea and Liverpool have shown signs of this. Hopefully, Utd can do that asap.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's interesting what you refer to as deflect, deny and distract. I know this is a footie forum but when I used to train my sales team back in the day I implemented a brand new sales objection handling system called
'The three Ds'
I did make a slight alteration to the D's due to ethical selling, so instead of using the word 'deny' we used 'derail'
Deflect
DISTRACT
De-rail
So if the customer raised a point that could scupper the sale we would deflect it, then distract them and ultimately de-rail the objection.
I did have to change the name of the system because some daft woman complained about it being inappropriate! Apparently she didn't like it when I told her she was that s*ite at obection handling, it was as if she didn't want the three Ds to leave her mouth.
Silly cow, but I managed her out..
----------------------------------------------------------------------
These 3 D's are Political Gaslighting tricks. Did you learn them in Catalonia as she was fighting for her 'independence'? Pretty evil sales trick you employed. You would have been great for Real Madrid.
I do believe my ability to think outside of the box and implement change really is an asset to most businesses.
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 38 seconds ago
I do believe my ability to think outside of the box and implement change really is an asset to most businesses.
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That'll be handy if you eventually gain employment.
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 7 minutes ago
I do believe my ability to think outside of the box and implement change really is an asset to most businesses.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You've certainly built a reputation in the former if your posts on this forum are anything to be believed!
What sort of changes have you implemented in some businesses before?
Relief that we’ve been knocked out of a cup competition? FFS.
We need to start winning things now. Crowing over 2nd/3rd/4th place finishes is such a Spursy attitude.
There’s no relief to take from last night. Just frustration and disappointment.
The best way to use my system is like this, by the way I hope this helps anyone who is in sales....
Deflect- 'Mr customer I hear what you're saying, you don't want to move forward but there's been a huge update at my end NOW'
*customer will listen, trust me*
Distract- 'When I last spoke to you and told you we could take you up 5 market points, well you'll never believe it but due to what we are seeing right NOW, TODAY we can actually take you up by 12 market points NOW'
**customer is now intrigued, but before they say ANYTHING you have to hit them with the curve ball**
Derail- 'NOW Mr customer, we are so committed to working with you that NOW we are going to chip in with half of your investment. That's how confident we are NOW. What's the worst that can possibly happen? I mean putting up half of what you thought is even more low risk NOW and we ourselves wouldn't be risking capital for no reason. NOW, based on every technical and fundamental aspect is the best possible time to move forward.'
You can all thank me when you start to earn the money I do.
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posted on 23/9/21
It will be interesting to see if West Ham play their best players against City now they've progressed.
posted on 23/9/21
For all the talk of us having a weak squad outside the first 11 we’ve played 7, won 6 and drawn 1. United with their supposed superior squad, Culer’s words not a general opinion amongst United fans, they’ve played 7, won 4, drawn 1 and lost 2. Plus I’d hazard a guess we’ve rotated more.
posted on 23/9/21
Liverpool fans really do make me laugh. Apparently we are no better than last year but last year we started poorly and this year we are joint top.
Nothing separates us, Chelsea or Liverpool. So if we aren't better than last year then what are we? Also bare in mind the injuries at Anfield and Chelsea's 'title clincher' Lukaku who won't do anything in big games as usual.
posted on 23/9/21
Joint top?
You're 3rd.
posted on 23/9/21
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 3 minutes ago
Joint top?
You're 3rd.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No team has more points than us in the league. We are joint top.
Also if you don't get at least 4 points from City and Liverpool your title race is done.
posted on 23/9/21
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 6 minutes ago
Joint top?
You're 3rd.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We are joint top.
posted on 23/9/21
Deflect, deny, distract. Some class tactics in gaslighting. OP's claims are just speculations bordering on gaslighting. In reality, the current signs just show unprepared Utd in CL/cups and lucky Utd in the PL. We're yet to see that solidity needed to be #1. Chelsea and Liverpool have shown signs of this. Hopefully, Utd can do that asap.
posted on 23/9/21
No one takes you seriously because of this sort of wummery
posted on 23/9/21
3rd
posted on 23/9/21
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 10 minutes ago
Liverpool fans really do make me laugh. Apparently we are no better than last year but last year we started poorly and this year we are joint top.
Nothing separates us, Chelsea or Liverpool. So if we aren't better than last year then what are we? Also bare in mind the injuries at Anfield and Chelsea's 'title clincher' Lukaku who won't do anything in big games as usual.
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You aren't any better than last season across all competitions, still inconsistent with your results and that will cost you in the league. I can't say Man United winning 7/8 league games on the trot, on top of all the midweek games, which I can see in all of Liverpool, Chelsea and Man City.
Surely with the amount of injuries Liverpool have, they can't be level on points (and above) Man United with all of your world class players? Something doesn't add up.
But you make sure you email the Premier League and ask them to split the trophy into thirds as well.
posted on 23/9/21
Your game on Saturday has been brought forward because of a Courteeners gig.
That wouldn't have happened under Fergie.
posted on 23/9/21
I'm sure there's a gag about playing 2nd fiddle somewhere in that as well.
posted on 23/9/21
comment by TENƎꓕ (U17162)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 6 minutes ago
Joint top?
You're 3rd.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We are joint top.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We had all this last year with scousers insisting they were joint top, when second to Spurs.
Mate, you are third. If the season finished now, you would be third. Goal difference is a factual decider, and two teams have better goal difference, hence they are first and second.
posted on 23/9/21
Culer I’m amazed a man of your abusive talents and success has the time to do these articles? How do you find time, can’t rely on your staff seeing you bullied all the pregnant women out on video conference.
How do you do it??
posted on 23/9/21
Liverpool and Chelsea are joint 3rd.
posted on 23/9/21
comment by LustyMonc (U22632)
posted 30 minutes ago
Deflect, deny, distract. Some class tactics in gaslighting. OP's claims are just speculations bordering on gaslighting. In reality, the current signs just show unprepared Utd in CL/cups and lucky Utd in the PL. We're yet to see that solidity needed to be #1. Chelsea and Liverpool have shown signs of this. Hopefully, Utd can do that asap.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's interesting what you refer to as deflect, deny and distract. I know this is a footie forum but when I used to train my sales team back in the day I implemented a brand new sales objection handling system called
'The three Ds'
I did make a slight alteration to the D's due to ethical selling, so instead of using the word 'deny' we used 'derail'
Deflect
DISTRACT
De-rail
So if the customer raised a point that could scupper the sale we would deflect it, then distract them and ultimately de-rail the objection.
I did have to change the name of the system because some daft woman complained about it being inappropriate! Apparently she didn't like it when I told her she was that s*ite at obection handling, it was as if she didn't want the three Ds to leave her mouth.
Silly cow, but I managed her out..
posted on 23/9/21
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by LustyMonc (U22632)
posted 30 minutes ago
Deflect, deny, distract. Some class tactics in gaslighting. OP's claims are just speculations bordering on gaslighting. In reality, the current signs just show unprepared Utd in CL/cups and lucky Utd in the PL. We're yet to see that solidity needed to be #1. Chelsea and Liverpool have shown signs of this. Hopefully, Utd can do that asap.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's interesting what you refer to as deflect, deny and distract. I know this is a footie forum but when I used to train my sales team back in the day I implemented a brand new sales objection handling system called
'The three Ds'
I did make a slight alteration to the D's due to ethical selling, so instead of using the word 'deny' we used 'derail'
Deflect
DISTRACT
De-rail
So if the customer raised a point that could scupper the sale we would deflect it, then distract them and ultimately de-rail the objection.
I did have to change the name of the system because some daft woman complained about it being inappropriate! Apparently she didn't like it when I told her she was that s*ite at obection handling, it was as if she didn't want the three Ds to leave her mouth.
Silly cow, but I managed her out..
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That’s all very nice but you haven’t answered my question.
posted on 23/9/21
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by LustyMonc (U22632)
posted 30 minutes ago
Deflect, deny, distract. Some class tactics in gaslighting. OP's claims are just speculations bordering on gaslighting. In reality, the current signs just show unprepared Utd in CL/cups and lucky Utd in the PL. We're yet to see that solidity needed to be #1. Chelsea and Liverpool have shown signs of this. Hopefully, Utd can do that asap.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's interesting what you refer to as deflect, deny and distract. I know this is a footie forum but when I used to train my sales team back in the day I implemented a brand new sales objection handling system called
'The three Ds'
I did make a slight alteration to the D's due to ethical selling, so instead of using the word 'deny' we used 'derail'
Deflect
DISTRACT
De-rail
So if the customer raised a point that could scupper the sale we would deflect it, then distract them and ultimately de-rail the objection.
I did have to change the name of the system because some daft woman complained about it being inappropriate! Apparently she didn't like it when I told her she was that s*ite at obection handling, it was as if she didn't want the three Ds to leave her mouth.
Silly cow, but I managed her out..
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's like listening to David Brent. Whoever this WUM is, I have to doff my cap to you. The profile is one of the best things I've ever read on here before.
posted on 23/9/21
It's like listening to David Brent.
—
it’s a brilliant character
posted on 23/9/21
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by LustyMonc (U22632)
posted 30 minutes ago
Deflect, deny, distract. Some class tactics in gaslighting. OP's claims are just speculations bordering on gaslighting. In reality, the current signs just show unprepared Utd in CL/cups and lucky Utd in the PL. We're yet to see that solidity needed to be #1. Chelsea and Liverpool have shown signs of this. Hopefully, Utd can do that asap.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's interesting what you refer to as deflect, deny and distract. I know this is a footie forum but when I used to train my sales team back in the day I implemented a brand new sales objection handling system called
'The three Ds'
I did make a slight alteration to the D's due to ethical selling, so instead of using the word 'deny' we used 'derail'
Deflect
DISTRACT
De-rail
So if the customer raised a point that could scupper the sale we would deflect it, then distract them and ultimately de-rail the objection.
I did have to change the name of the system because some daft woman complained about it being inappropriate! Apparently she didn't like it when I told her she was that s*ite at obection handling, it was as if she didn't want the three Ds to leave her mouth.
Silly cow, but I managed her out..
----------------------------------------------------------------------
These 3 D's are Political Gaslighting tricks. Did you learn them in Catalonia as she was fighting for her 'independence'? Pretty evil sales trick you employed. You would have been great for Real Madrid.
posted on 23/9/21
I do believe my ability to think outside of the box and implement change really is an asset to most businesses.
posted on 23/9/21
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 38 seconds ago
I do believe my ability to think outside of the box and implement change really is an asset to most businesses.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That'll be handy if you eventually gain employment.
posted on 23/9/21
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 7 minutes ago
I do believe my ability to think outside of the box and implement change really is an asset to most businesses.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You've certainly built a reputation in the former if your posts on this forum are anything to be believed!
What sort of changes have you implemented in some businesses before?
posted on 23/9/21
Relief that we’ve been knocked out of a cup competition? FFS.
We need to start winning things now. Crowing over 2nd/3rd/4th place finishes is such a Spursy attitude.
There’s no relief to take from last night. Just frustration and disappointment.
posted on 23/9/21
The best way to use my system is like this, by the way I hope this helps anyone who is in sales....
Deflect- 'Mr customer I hear what you're saying, you don't want to move forward but there's been a huge update at my end NOW'
*customer will listen, trust me*
Distract- 'When I last spoke to you and told you we could take you up 5 market points, well you'll never believe it but due to what we are seeing right NOW, TODAY we can actually take you up by 12 market points NOW'
**customer is now intrigued, but before they say ANYTHING you have to hit them with the curve ball**
Derail- 'NOW Mr customer, we are so committed to working with you that NOW we are going to chip in with half of your investment. That's how confident we are NOW. What's the worst that can possibly happen? I mean putting up half of what you thought is even more low risk NOW and we ourselves wouldn't be risking capital for no reason. NOW, based on every technical and fundamental aspect is the best possible time to move forward.'
You can all thank me when you start to earn the money I do.
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