Surely the government should be held to account
My opinion is that no one was forced to go to that game. People knew about covid at that stage and made that choice.
Disgraceful.
The Government will just wave it away and say it wasn't their decision to make.
It is the Guardian, don’t take it seriously. Wouldn’t even wipe my arze with it
Wasn’t La Liga already suspended by that point? I’m sure Covid was worse in Spain so why did the government let the game go ahead? Or at the very least stop the Spanish fans from travelling as they’d mix with Liverpool fans in bars etc beforehand.
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 6 minutes ago
My opinion is that no one was forced to go to that game. People knew about covid at that stage and made that choice.
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The issue is that people probably died who, as far as they were concerned, didn’t come into contact with anyone who was ill. Covid is so dangerous due to asymptomatic transmission...
comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted 7 minutes ago
It is the Guardian, don’t take it seriously. Wouldn’t even wipe my arze with it
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So it's all a big lie?
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 6 minutes ago
My opinion is that no one was forced to go to that game. People knew about covid at that stage and made that choice.
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The issue is that people probably died who, as far as they were concerned, didn’t come into contact with anyone who was ill. Covid is so dangerous due to asymptomatic transmission...
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Not disagreeing with that at all. My point is people knew covid was about and still went to the game. It’s easy to blame the government but personal responsibility has to come into it also.
comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted 11 minutes ago
It is the Guardian, don’t take it seriously. Wouldn’t even wipe my arze with it
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Fool
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 6 minutes ago
My opinion is that no one was forced to go to that game. People knew about covid at that stage and made that choice.
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The issue is that people probably died who, as far as they were concerned, didn’t come into contact with anyone who was ill. Covid is so dangerous due to asymptomatic transmission...
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Not disagreeing with that at all. My point is people knew covid was about and still went to the game. It’s easy to blame the government but personal responsibility has to come into it also.
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Bit harsh because it’s not like you can see a virus.
Government should be held accountable
I have to agree with Culer here.
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted 7 minutes ago
It is the Guardian, don’t take it seriously. Wouldn’t even wipe my arze with it
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So it's all a big lie?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think it is pretty difficult to prove and when you look at their claims - local hospital admissions?
Err, not everyone from Cheltenham is at the races, its a national festival, the majority of the audience aren’t local.
As for the wider points about lockdowns - nope, didn’t support a single lockdown.
And Guardian ratcheting up fear among and playing into authoritarian tendencies of lefties to get another lockdown this winter is typical of them.
But hey, maybe the Guardian is great and their tin cup rattling at the bottom of every article and desperate pleas for readers to become members are really signs the paper is respected and in good health lol.
Responsibility appears shared to me, between in order
UK Government
Football authorities
Liverpool FC
Athletico FC
Fans.
The government has to carry most of the blame,
The fans the least
The Government were loathe to close the borders for weeks/months after the game.
Welcoming in visitors from India despite the emergence of the Delta (Indian) Variant being a prime example.
comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted 7 minutes ago
It is the Guardian, don’t take it seriously. Wouldn’t even wipe my arze with it
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So it's all a big lie?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think it is pretty difficult to prove and when you look at their claims - local hospital admissions?
Err, not everyone from Cheltenham is at the races, its a national festival, the majority of the audience aren’t local.
As for the wider points about lockdowns - nope, didn’t support a single lockdown.
And Guardian ratcheting up fear among and playing into authoritarian tendencies of lefties to get another lockdown this winter is typical of them.
But hey, maybe the Guardian is great and their tin cup rattling at the bottom of every article and desperate pleas for readers to become members are really signs the paper is respected and in good health lol.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The Guardian is a great newspaper and recognised as such.
The adverts are annoying, but it's the only one I can read for free.
The figures aren't the Guardians, they are from the report.
Why didn't you support a lockdown, they have been to work around the world.
Sorry but I prefer the Guardians opinion to yours, whoever you qre
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted 7 minutes ago
It is the Guardian, don’t take it seriously. Wouldn’t even wipe my arze with it
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So it's all a big lie?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think it is pretty difficult to prove and when you look at their claims - local hospital admissions?
Err, not everyone from Cheltenham is at the races, its a national festival, the majority of the audience aren’t local.
As for the wider points about lockdowns - nope, didn’t support a single lockdown.
And Guardian ratcheting up fear among and playing into authoritarian tendencies of lefties to get another lockdown this winter is typical of them.
But hey, maybe the Guardian is great and their tin cup rattling at the bottom of every article and desperate pleas for readers to become members are really signs the paper is respected and in good health lol.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The Guardian is a great newspaper and recognised as such.
The adverts are annoying, but it's the only one I can read for free.
The figures aren't the Guardians, they are from the report.
Why didn't you support a lockdown, they have been to work around the world.
Sorry but I prefer the Guardians opinion to yours, whoever you qre
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- It was a great paper. Now, it isn’t, it is an ever degrading clown show that has lost half its best writers, and is chasing American online readers and is becoming increasingly shrill and alarmist
- The adverts are fine, if they were ads, I think everyone needs to be paid for, Desperate tin cup rattling at the end of each article however, looks a bit bleak, no?
- No they haven’t.
- Good, enjoy the leftie hive mind. When you are free from those intellectual shackles, come back and talk.
comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted 7 minutes ago
It is the Guardian, don’t take it seriously. Wouldn’t even wipe my arze with it
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So it's all a big lie?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think it is pretty difficult to prove and when you look at their claims - local hospital admissions?
Err, not everyone from Cheltenham is at the races, its a national festival, the majority of the audience aren’t local.
As for the wider points about lockdowns - nope, didn’t support a single lockdown.
And Guardian ratcheting up fear among and playing into authoritarian tendencies of lefties to get another lockdown this winter is typical of them.
But hey, maybe the Guardian is great and their tin cup rattling at the bottom of every article and desperate pleas for readers to become members are really signs the paper is respected and in good health lol.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The Guardian is a great newspaper and recognised as such.
The adverts are annoying, but it's the only one I can read for free.
The figures aren't the Guardians, they are from the report.
Why didn't you support a lockdown, they have been to work around the world.
Sorry but I prefer the Guardians opinion to yours, whoever you qre
----------------------------------------------------------------------
- It was a great paper. Now, it isn’t, it is an ever degrading clown show that has lost half its best writers, and is chasing American online readers and is becoming increasingly shrill and alarmist
- The adverts are fine, if they were ads, I think everyone needs to be paid for, Desperate tin cup rattling at the end of each article however, looks a bit bleak, no?
- No they haven’t.
- Good, enjoy the leftie hive mind. When you are free from those intellectual shackles, come back and talk.
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I will when you're free of your right wing bias
comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted 32 minutes ago
It is the Guardian, don’t take it seriously. Wouldn’t even wipe my arze with it
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hahaha but youd bet your family on any of the red top rags
comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted 7 minutes ago
It is the Guardian, don’t take it seriously. Wouldn’t even wipe my arze with it
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So it's all a big lie?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think it is pretty difficult to prove and when you look at their claims - local hospital admissions?
Err, not everyone from Cheltenham is at the races, its a national festival, the majority of the audience aren’t local.
As for the wider points about lockdowns - nope, didn’t support a single lockdown.
And Guardian ratcheting up fear among and playing into authoritarian tendencies of lefties to get another lockdown this winter is typical of them.
But hey, maybe the Guardian is great and their tin cup rattling at the bottom of every article and desperate pleas for readers to become members are really signs the paper is respected and in good health lol.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The Guardian is a great newspaper and recognised as such.
The adverts are annoying, but it's the only one I can read for free.
The figures aren't the Guardians, they are from the report.
Why didn't you support a lockdown, they have been to work around the world.
Sorry but I prefer the Guardians opinion to yours, whoever you qre
----------------------------------------------------------------------
- It was a great paper. Now, it isn’t, it is an ever degrading clown show that has lost half its best writers, and is chasing American online readers and is becoming increasingly shrill and alarmist
- The adverts are fine, if they were ads, I think everyone needs to be paid for, Desperate tin cup rattling at the end of each article however, looks a bit bleak, no?
- No they haven’t.
- Good, enjoy the leftie hive mind. When you are free from those intellectual shackles, come back and talk.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do you only read online papers when they immediately direct you to a paywall like the Times or Telegraph?
comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted 7 minutes ago
It is the Guardian, don’t take it seriously. Wouldn’t even wipe my arze with it
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So it's all a big lie?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think it is pretty difficult to prove and when you look at their claims - local hospital admissions?
Err, not everyone from Cheltenham is at the races, its a national festival, the majority of the audience aren’t local.
As for the wider points about lockdowns - nope, didn’t support a single lockdown.
And Guardian ratcheting up fear among and playing into authoritarian tendencies of lefties to get another lockdown this winter is typical of them.
But hey, maybe the Guardian is great and their tin cup rattling at the bottom of every article and desperate pleas for readers to become members are really signs the paper is respected and in good health lol.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The Guardian is a great newspaper and recognised as such.
The adverts are annoying, but it's the only one I can read for free.
The figures aren't the Guardians, they are from the report.
Why didn't you support a lockdown, they have been to work around the world.
Sorry but I prefer the Guardians opinion to yours, whoever you qre
----------------------------------------------------------------------
- It was a great paper. Now, it isn’t, it is an ever degrading clown show that has lost half its best writers, and is chasing American online readers and is becoming increasingly shrill and alarmist
- The adverts are fine, if they were ads, I think everyone needs to be paid for, Desperate tin cup rattling at the end of each article however, looks a bit bleak, no?
- No they haven’t.
- Good, enjoy the leftie hive mind. When you are free from those intellectual shackles, come back and talk.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
i live in denmark and the lockdowns have worked and life is back to normal here, uk has ignored almost all advice and is still paying the price for it
It was the report but not the Guardian.
The preliminary report on the handling of the Covid-19 crisis by the government and Boris Johnson was published on Tuesday. It praises some elements, notably the response of NHS workers to a national emergency. It describes a series of delayed responses and muddled procedures. On page 34 it states, with a startling clarity, that 37 people died unnecessarily because of the decision to stage the Champions League match between Liverpool and Atlético Madrid at Anfield on 11 March, just as the shutters were going
It tells you where to find the report and the page the figures are on.
comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted 7 minutes ago
It is the Guardian, don’t take it seriously. Wouldn’t even wipe my arze with it
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So it's all a big lie?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think it is pretty difficult to prove and when you look at their claims - local hospital admissions?
Err, not everyone from Cheltenham is at the races, its a national festival, the majority of the audience aren’t local.
As for the wider points about lockdowns - nope, didn’t support a single lockdown.
And Guardian ratcheting up fear among and playing into authoritarian tendencies of lefties to get another lockdown this winter is typical of them.
But hey, maybe the Guardian is great and their tin cup rattling at the bottom of every article and desperate pleas for readers to become members are really signs the paper is respected and in good health lol.
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It’s the governments own report that is claiming it, not the guardian. They’re just reporting it.
Lockdowns.
Studies show COVID-19 lockdowns have saved lives | Reutershttps://www.reuters.com › article › uk-factcheck-lockdo...
Nov 24, 2020 — He highlighted the need for “really clear national messaging” and said that not all places needed the same measures at the same time.
https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/do-lockdowns-actually-work
https://www.bbc.com/news/55949640
Or I can believe you that they don't work
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 29 minutes ago
I have to agree with Culer here.
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I am a man of the people Boris. For the many, not the few.
It's already been shown by their own investigation that they are at fault for things like this.
Just an awful, corrupt, dishonest Government that has absolutely no integrity.
I am still amazed people fall for their BS and voted them in, awful people.
In the last 12 years this country has gone to sh!t. It's not coincedence.
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posted on 16/10/21
Surely the government should be held to account
posted on 16/10/21
My opinion is that no one was forced to go to that game. People knew about covid at that stage and made that choice.
posted on 16/10/21
Disgraceful.
The Government will just wave it away and say it wasn't their decision to make.
posted on 16/10/21
It is the Guardian, don’t take it seriously. Wouldn’t even wipe my arze with it
posted on 16/10/21
Wasn’t La Liga already suspended by that point? I’m sure Covid was worse in Spain so why did the government let the game go ahead? Or at the very least stop the Spanish fans from travelling as they’d mix with Liverpool fans in bars etc beforehand.
posted on 16/10/21
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 6 minutes ago
My opinion is that no one was forced to go to that game. People knew about covid at that stage and made that choice.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The issue is that people probably died who, as far as they were concerned, didn’t come into contact with anyone who was ill. Covid is so dangerous due to asymptomatic transmission...
posted on 16/10/21
comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted 7 minutes ago
It is the Guardian, don’t take it seriously. Wouldn’t even wipe my arze with it
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So it's all a big lie?
posted on 16/10/21
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 6 minutes ago
My opinion is that no one was forced to go to that game. People knew about covid at that stage and made that choice.
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The issue is that people probably died who, as far as they were concerned, didn’t come into contact with anyone who was ill. Covid is so dangerous due to asymptomatic transmission...
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Not disagreeing with that at all. My point is people knew covid was about and still went to the game. It’s easy to blame the government but personal responsibility has to come into it also.
posted on 16/10/21
comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted 11 minutes ago
It is the Guardian, don’t take it seriously. Wouldn’t even wipe my arze with it
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Fool
posted on 16/10/21
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 6 minutes ago
My opinion is that no one was forced to go to that game. People knew about covid at that stage and made that choice.
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The issue is that people probably died who, as far as they were concerned, didn’t come into contact with anyone who was ill. Covid is so dangerous due to asymptomatic transmission...
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Not disagreeing with that at all. My point is people knew covid was about and still went to the game. It’s easy to blame the government but personal responsibility has to come into it also.
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Bit harsh because it’s not like you can see a virus.
Government should be held accountable
posted on 16/10/21
I have to agree with Culer here.
posted on 16/10/21
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted 7 minutes ago
It is the Guardian, don’t take it seriously. Wouldn’t even wipe my arze with it
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So it's all a big lie?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think it is pretty difficult to prove and when you look at their claims - local hospital admissions?
Err, not everyone from Cheltenham is at the races, its a national festival, the majority of the audience aren’t local.
As for the wider points about lockdowns - nope, didn’t support a single lockdown.
And Guardian ratcheting up fear among and playing into authoritarian tendencies of lefties to get another lockdown this winter is typical of them.
But hey, maybe the Guardian is great and their tin cup rattling at the bottom of every article and desperate pleas for readers to become members are really signs the paper is respected and in good health lol.
posted on 16/10/21
Responsibility appears shared to me, between in order
UK Government
Football authorities
Liverpool FC
Athletico FC
Fans.
The government has to carry most of the blame,
The fans the least
posted on 16/10/21
The Government were loathe to close the borders for weeks/months after the game.
Welcoming in visitors from India despite the emergence of the Delta (Indian) Variant being a prime example.
posted on 16/10/21
comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted 7 minutes ago
It is the Guardian, don’t take it seriously. Wouldn’t even wipe my arze with it
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So it's all a big lie?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think it is pretty difficult to prove and when you look at their claims - local hospital admissions?
Err, not everyone from Cheltenham is at the races, its a national festival, the majority of the audience aren’t local.
As for the wider points about lockdowns - nope, didn’t support a single lockdown.
And Guardian ratcheting up fear among and playing into authoritarian tendencies of lefties to get another lockdown this winter is typical of them.
But hey, maybe the Guardian is great and their tin cup rattling at the bottom of every article and desperate pleas for readers to become members are really signs the paper is respected and in good health lol.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The Guardian is a great newspaper and recognised as such.
The adverts are annoying, but it's the only one I can read for free.
The figures aren't the Guardians, they are from the report.
Why didn't you support a lockdown, they have been to work around the world.
Sorry but I prefer the Guardians opinion to yours, whoever you qre
posted on 16/10/21
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted 7 minutes ago
It is the Guardian, don’t take it seriously. Wouldn’t even wipe my arze with it
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So it's all a big lie?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think it is pretty difficult to prove and when you look at their claims - local hospital admissions?
Err, not everyone from Cheltenham is at the races, its a national festival, the majority of the audience aren’t local.
As for the wider points about lockdowns - nope, didn’t support a single lockdown.
And Guardian ratcheting up fear among and playing into authoritarian tendencies of lefties to get another lockdown this winter is typical of them.
But hey, maybe the Guardian is great and their tin cup rattling at the bottom of every article and desperate pleas for readers to become members are really signs the paper is respected and in good health lol.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The Guardian is a great newspaper and recognised as such.
The adverts are annoying, but it's the only one I can read for free.
The figures aren't the Guardians, they are from the report.
Why didn't you support a lockdown, they have been to work around the world.
Sorry but I prefer the Guardians opinion to yours, whoever you qre
----------------------------------------------------------------------
- It was a great paper. Now, it isn’t, it is an ever degrading clown show that has lost half its best writers, and is chasing American online readers and is becoming increasingly shrill and alarmist
- The adverts are fine, if they were ads, I think everyone needs to be paid for, Desperate tin cup rattling at the end of each article however, looks a bit bleak, no?
- No they haven’t.
- Good, enjoy the leftie hive mind. When you are free from those intellectual shackles, come back and talk.
posted on 16/10/21
comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted 7 minutes ago
It is the Guardian, don’t take it seriously. Wouldn’t even wipe my arze with it
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So it's all a big lie?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think it is pretty difficult to prove and when you look at their claims - local hospital admissions?
Err, not everyone from Cheltenham is at the races, its a national festival, the majority of the audience aren’t local.
As for the wider points about lockdowns - nope, didn’t support a single lockdown.
And Guardian ratcheting up fear among and playing into authoritarian tendencies of lefties to get another lockdown this winter is typical of them.
But hey, maybe the Guardian is great and their tin cup rattling at the bottom of every article and desperate pleas for readers to become members are really signs the paper is respected and in good health lol.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The Guardian is a great newspaper and recognised as such.
The adverts are annoying, but it's the only one I can read for free.
The figures aren't the Guardians, they are from the report.
Why didn't you support a lockdown, they have been to work around the world.
Sorry but I prefer the Guardians opinion to yours, whoever you qre
----------------------------------------------------------------------
- It was a great paper. Now, it isn’t, it is an ever degrading clown show that has lost half its best writers, and is chasing American online readers and is becoming increasingly shrill and alarmist
- The adverts are fine, if they were ads, I think everyone needs to be paid for, Desperate tin cup rattling at the end of each article however, looks a bit bleak, no?
- No they haven’t.
- Good, enjoy the leftie hive mind. When you are free from those intellectual shackles, come back and talk.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I will when you're free of your right wing bias
posted on 16/10/21
comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted 32 minutes ago
It is the Guardian, don’t take it seriously. Wouldn’t even wipe my arze with it
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hahaha but youd bet your family on any of the red top rags
posted on 16/10/21
comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted 7 minutes ago
It is the Guardian, don’t take it seriously. Wouldn’t even wipe my arze with it
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So it's all a big lie?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think it is pretty difficult to prove and when you look at their claims - local hospital admissions?
Err, not everyone from Cheltenham is at the races, its a national festival, the majority of the audience aren’t local.
As for the wider points about lockdowns - nope, didn’t support a single lockdown.
And Guardian ratcheting up fear among and playing into authoritarian tendencies of lefties to get another lockdown this winter is typical of them.
But hey, maybe the Guardian is great and their tin cup rattling at the bottom of every article and desperate pleas for readers to become members are really signs the paper is respected and in good health lol.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The Guardian is a great newspaper and recognised as such.
The adverts are annoying, but it's the only one I can read for free.
The figures aren't the Guardians, they are from the report.
Why didn't you support a lockdown, they have been to work around the world.
Sorry but I prefer the Guardians opinion to yours, whoever you qre
----------------------------------------------------------------------
- It was a great paper. Now, it isn’t, it is an ever degrading clown show that has lost half its best writers, and is chasing American online readers and is becoming increasingly shrill and alarmist
- The adverts are fine, if they were ads, I think everyone needs to be paid for, Desperate tin cup rattling at the end of each article however, looks a bit bleak, no?
- No they haven’t.
- Good, enjoy the leftie hive mind. When you are free from those intellectual shackles, come back and talk.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do you only read online papers when they immediately direct you to a paywall like the Times or Telegraph?
posted on 16/10/21
comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted 7 minutes ago
It is the Guardian, don’t take it seriously. Wouldn’t even wipe my arze with it
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So it's all a big lie?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think it is pretty difficult to prove and when you look at their claims - local hospital admissions?
Err, not everyone from Cheltenham is at the races, its a national festival, the majority of the audience aren’t local.
As for the wider points about lockdowns - nope, didn’t support a single lockdown.
And Guardian ratcheting up fear among and playing into authoritarian tendencies of lefties to get another lockdown this winter is typical of them.
But hey, maybe the Guardian is great and their tin cup rattling at the bottom of every article and desperate pleas for readers to become members are really signs the paper is respected and in good health lol.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The Guardian is a great newspaper and recognised as such.
The adverts are annoying, but it's the only one I can read for free.
The figures aren't the Guardians, they are from the report.
Why didn't you support a lockdown, they have been to work around the world.
Sorry but I prefer the Guardians opinion to yours, whoever you qre
----------------------------------------------------------------------
- It was a great paper. Now, it isn’t, it is an ever degrading clown show that has lost half its best writers, and is chasing American online readers and is becoming increasingly shrill and alarmist
- The adverts are fine, if they were ads, I think everyone needs to be paid for, Desperate tin cup rattling at the end of each article however, looks a bit bleak, no?
- No they haven’t.
- Good, enjoy the leftie hive mind. When you are free from those intellectual shackles, come back and talk.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
i live in denmark and the lockdowns have worked and life is back to normal here, uk has ignored almost all advice and is still paying the price for it
posted on 16/10/21
It was the report but not the Guardian.
The preliminary report on the handling of the Covid-19 crisis by the government and Boris Johnson was published on Tuesday. It praises some elements, notably the response of NHS workers to a national emergency. It describes a series of delayed responses and muddled procedures. On page 34 it states, with a startling clarity, that 37 people died unnecessarily because of the decision to stage the Champions League match between Liverpool and Atlético Madrid at Anfield on 11 March, just as the shutters were going
It tells you where to find the report and the page the figures are on.
posted on 16/10/21
comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted 7 minutes ago
It is the Guardian, don’t take it seriously. Wouldn’t even wipe my arze with it
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So it's all a big lie?
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I think it is pretty difficult to prove and when you look at their claims - local hospital admissions?
Err, not everyone from Cheltenham is at the races, its a national festival, the majority of the audience aren’t local.
As for the wider points about lockdowns - nope, didn’t support a single lockdown.
And Guardian ratcheting up fear among and playing into authoritarian tendencies of lefties to get another lockdown this winter is typical of them.
But hey, maybe the Guardian is great and their tin cup rattling at the bottom of every article and desperate pleas for readers to become members are really signs the paper is respected and in good health lol.
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It’s the governments own report that is claiming it, not the guardian. They’re just reporting it.
posted on 16/10/21
Lockdowns.
Studies show COVID-19 lockdowns have saved lives | Reutershttps://www.reuters.com › article › uk-factcheck-lockdo...
Nov 24, 2020 — He highlighted the need for “really clear national messaging” and said that not all places needed the same measures at the same time.
https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/do-lockdowns-actually-work
https://www.bbc.com/news/55949640
Or I can believe you that they don't work
posted on 16/10/21
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 29 minutes ago
I have to agree with Culer here.
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I am a man of the people Boris. For the many, not the few.
posted on 16/10/21
It's already been shown by their own investigation that they are at fault for things like this.
Just an awful, corrupt, dishonest Government that has absolutely no integrity.
I am still amazed people fall for their BS and voted them in, awful people.
In the last 12 years this country has gone to sh!t. It's not coincedence.
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