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posted on 27/12/21

The real issue here is that by all accounts it isn't a one off event and that Aubameyang has form for general lateness dating all the way back to his Dortmund days.

From the tweet it seems he's unaware of this which is embarrassing for him and why the club are in the right to make an example of him.

As you said, because of the situation at the moment in terms of how bad his form is along with the rest of the forward line playing better he's not getting back in regardless of this incident.

If we can get rid it'll be a major achievement and for me, it will restore a bit of faith in Aubameyang's personality if he's willing to take a pay cut (no one is paying those wages) to continue playing football somewhere else

comment by Tu Meke (U3732)

posted on 27/12/21

There's been no leaks from Auba's side as to what he actually did. This suggests to me he knows he's crossed a line. He's suffered a humiliation, but let's be real, every caaaant and his mother knew he wasn't captain material. There's still a way back for him if he wants, he just has to swallow his pride.

posted on 27/12/21

Yeah appointing him as captain was a shambolic decision by the manager

comment by OwO (U18355)

posted on 27/12/21

He clearly isn’t captain material but it’s easy to call it a shambolic decision in hindsight. If you look at all the potential candidates to replace him, none were at the club at the time, apart from Tierney who was always injured and hadn’t really shown any signs of being a big success for us.

posted on 27/12/21

comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 3 hours, 1 minute ago
The real issue here is that by all accounts it isn't a one off event and that Aubameyang has form for general lateness dating all the way back to his Dortmund days.

From the tweet it seems he's unaware of this which is embarrassing for him and why the club are in the right to make an example of him.

As you said, because of the situation at the moment in terms of how bad his form is along with the rest of the forward line playing better he's not getting back in regardless of this incident.

If we can get rid it'll be a major achievement and for me, it will restore a bit of faith in Aubameyang's personality if he's willing to take a pay cut (no one is paying those wages) to continue playing football somewhere else
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Sorry Arsenal fans but apparently Everton are a bit strapped for cash due to the new stadium build, plus battling FFP rules, mostly due to the shear amount of dross we’ve bought in recent seasons.
If this were not the case I’m sure Aubameyang would be exactly the type of player we’d be looking at and our number one target in this window. Paul Merson would be quoted as saying that CVL going the other way makes sense to all parties and it’s a good deal for Everton and Aubameyang…

Hopefully some others mugs will take the player off your hands this time. Good luck.

posted on 27/12/21

comment by Big Dunc's favourite Pigeon (U15780)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 3 hours, 1 minute ago
The real issue here is that by all accounts it isn't a one off event and that Aubameyang has form for general lateness dating all the way back to his Dortmund days.

From the tweet it seems he's unaware of this which is embarrassing for him and why the club are in the right to make an example of him.

As you said, because of the situation at the moment in terms of how bad his form is along with the rest of the forward line playing better he's not getting back in regardless of this incident.

If we can get rid it'll be a major achievement and for me, it will restore a bit of faith in Aubameyang's personality if he's willing to take a pay cut (no one is paying those wages) to continue playing football somewhere else
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Sorry Arsenal fans but apparently Everton are a bit strapped for cash due to the new stadium build, plus battling FFP rules, mostly due to the shear amount of dross we’ve bought in recent seasons.
If this were not the case I’m sure Aubameyang would be exactly the type of player we’d be looking at and our number one target in this window. Paul Merson would be quoted as saying that CVL going the other way makes sense to all parties and it’s a good deal for Everton and Aubameyang…

Hopefully some others mugs will take the player off your hands this time. Good luck.

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Sorry to hear it, Everton have been legends lately with overpaying for our dross

I feel your pain though. We've gone through phases of taking United's and then Chelsea's worst players.

If we're lucky Newcastle will be in for Auba

posted on 27/12/21

comment by #FamilyFirst (U18355)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
He clearly isn’t captain material but it’s easy to call it a shambolic decision in hindsight. If you look at all the potential candidates to replace him, none were at the club at the time, apart from Tierney who was always injured and hadn’t really shown any signs of being a big success for us.
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The club knew he had a history of poor professionalism though, that or they were negligent with their scouting. Either way it wasn't a good choice to make him captain even if he was a great player.

Agree we didn't exactly have a suitable candidate but almost anyone would've been a better candidate in terms of what you need from your captain

comment by oldboy (U20062)

posted on 27/12/21

Aubameyang clearly doesn't fit into the style of play Arteta is looking to implement. It's best to just move on from him. Look at how well Laca is linking up with the youngsters.

posted on 27/12/21

comment by oldboy2002 (U20062)
posted 27 minutes ago
Aubameyang clearly doesn't fit into the style of play Arteta is looking to implement. It's best to just move on from him. Look at how well Laca is linking up with the youngsters.
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An in-form Aubameyang would've been fine playing Martinelli's position in the current set up.

The main issue with him is that he's declined horrendously (likely in part due to having malaria) and potentially also due to disciplinary issues

posted on 27/12/21

comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by oldboy2002 (U20062)
posted 27 minutes ago
Aubameyang clearly doesn't fit into the style of play Arteta is looking to implement. It's best to just move on from him. Look at how well Laca is linking up with the youngsters.
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An in-form Aubameyang would've been fine playing Martinelli's position in the current set up.

The main issue with him is that he's declined horrendously (likely in part due to having malaria) and potentially also due to disciplinary issues
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He is not as aggressive as Martinelli in his play and would not have been involved in general play, even if he was in form

posted on 27/12/21

comment by Castor Troy (U8700)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by oldboy2002 (U20062)
posted 27 minutes ago
Aubameyang clearly doesn't fit into the style of play Arteta is looking to implement. It's best to just move on from him. Look at how well Laca is linking up with the youngsters.
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An in-form Aubameyang would've been fine playing Martinelli's position in the current set up.

The main issue with him is that he's declined horrendously (likely in part due to having malaria) and potentially also due to disciplinary issues
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He is not as aggressive as Martinelli in his play and would not have been involved in general play, even if he was in form
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He'd be fine in this system, yeah he's not identical to Martinelli but he was a top striker (if not a bit wasteful at times) for several years.

I like Martinelli as much as anyone but he's not reached Aubameyang's peak level yet, in fact he still has some way to go

posted on 27/12/21

Laca's been really poor in the last couple of games and could easily be upgraded. I'm not really sure what this link-up play is that everyone has been talking about, our goals have been down to individual brilliance/runs from Martinelli, Saka, Smith-Rowe, Tierney and some very nice passes from Odegaard, he's also too slow to press, tires too quickly and arrives too late in the box to get on chances because he's so slow.

There's been the odd nice touch/flick from Laca and he's done ok as a presence centrally in Auba's absence but as usual some of our fans are going way OTT on him/his importance and again, in the last couple of games he has returned to his usual struggles.

Laca needs upgrading, Xhaka needs upgrading, we need a backup RB for Tomiyasu, a backup CB, ideally one that can play both LCB & RCB but probably more important to replace Mari as it seems (sadly) that he is inferior to Holding. Then we need a backup GK to replace Leno.

comment by OwO (U18355)

posted on 27/12/21

Aye people are completing overestimating Laca’s influence on the team. He is also no goal threat at all. We should be desperately looking for a top striker in January. A mobile striker who can hold up play but knows where the goal is, too. Somebody like DCL but ideally one who isn’t injury prone, has had more than one good season and won’t cost a shiiiiiit load of money.

comment by OwO (U18355)

posted on 27/12/21

Btw I’ve said it a few times and now that he has recovered from his head injury, I think Raul Jiminez would improve us massively. He is 31 in May though so idk if Wolves valuation of him is something we would realistically pay.

posted on 27/12/21

comment by #FamilyFirst (U18355)
posted 11 minutes ago
Btw I’ve said it a few times and now that he has recovered from his head injury, I think Raul Jiminez would improve us massively. He is 31 in May though so idk if Wolves valuation of him is something we would realistically pay.
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Too old and too risky for such an important role

posted on 27/12/21

Agree about Lacazette getting overhyped now. If anything the central creativity has largely come from Odegaarde although Lacazette has done reasonably ok, at least compared to Auba who'd completely gone off a cliff

posted on 27/12/21

Yes we need an upgrade on laca but it's been clear to see for many, that he is a better fit for the team than Auba.

As for Martinelli, no he is not a better scorer than Auba but he is far more involved in games than Auba on the left.

posted on 27/12/21

Auba is one dimensional playing is like playing with ten men good riddance with him and his ego.

posted on 27/12/21

To say that Arteta does not know how to deal with big ego players is an under statement. Edu is not strong enough or maybe just not confident to dictate how these matters should be handled. The problem was not that Arteta had to discipline Auba or was wrong to take way the captaincy. It is that we were washing our laundry in public. You just don't do that.

Arsenal look amateurish.

posted on 27/12/21

comment by You Can't Buy Class ¯\_/^v^\_/¯ (U12019)
posted 3 hours, 57 minutes ago
Laca's been really poor in the last couple of games and could easily be upgraded. I'm not really sure what this link-up play is that everyone has been talking about, our goals have been down to individual brilliance/runs from Martinelli, Saka, Smith-Rowe, Tierney and some very nice passes from Odegaard, he's also too slow to press, tires too quickly and arrives too late in the box to get on chances because he's so slow.

There's been the odd nice touch/flick from Laca and he's done ok as a presence centrally in Auba's absence but as usual some of our fans are going way OTT on him/his importance and again, in the last couple of games he has returned to his usual struggles.

Laca needs upgrading, Xhaka needs upgrading, we need a backup RB for Tomiyasu, a backup CB, ideally one that can play both LCB & RCB but probably more important to replace Mari as it seems (sadly) that he is inferior to Holding. Then we need a backup GK to replace Leno.
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I'll bite and regret it right after...(based on your posting history)

Laca poor?? I am not sure what games you are watching. He is your quintessential 6.5 or 7 out of 10 player. Even when he is not completely on his game, he is still in the game. Harrying, tackling, working his socks off. I am very very happy with his performances since he came in. I think he could use a few more goals but if we win games by 3 or 4 every time he does not play and he does not score, I will be very happy with his all round contribution. If you cannot see what he does to make that front line tick, time to watch a different sport

posted on 27/12/21

I accept that Lacazette is not the greatest player, but I don't think we have anybody else in the squad that can play his hold-up role. That's why we need a new striker in the January window that can link the play AND is a clinical finisher - such a player does not come cheap so we desperately need to get some of the deadwood off the books.

posted on 27/12/21

When you tell the whole world that some players are 'dead wood' by your actions, why would any interested club be willing to give you money or in fact even their wages for them?

comment by Tu Meke (U3732)

posted on 27/12/21

comment by You Can't Buy Class ¯\_/^v^\_/¯ (U12019)
posted 5 hours, 22 minutes ago
Laca's been really poor in the last couple of games and could easily be upgraded. I'm not really sure what this link-up play is that everyone has been talking about, our goals have been down to individual brilliance/runs from Martinelli, Saka, Smith-Rowe, Tierney and some very nice passes from Odegaard, he's also too slow to press, tires too quickly and arrives too late in the box to get on chances because he's so slow.

There's been the odd nice touch/flick from Laca and he's done ok as a presence centrally in Auba's absence but as usual some of our fans are going way OTT on him/his importance and again, in the last couple of games he has returned to his usual struggles.

Laca needs upgrading, Xhaka needs upgrading, we need a backup RB for Tomiyasu, a backup CB, ideally one that can play both LCB & RCB but probably more important to replace Mari as it seems (sadly) that he is inferior to Holding. Then we need a backup GK to replace Leno.
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Couldn't agree more

posted on 27/12/21

comment by MaineGunner (U10130)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
comment by You Can't Buy Class ¯\_/^v^\_/¯ (U12019)
posted 3 hours, 57 minutes ago
Laca's been really poor in the last couple of games and could easily be upgraded. I'm not really sure what this link-up play is that everyone has been talking about, our goals have been down to individual brilliance/runs from Martinelli, Saka, Smith-Rowe, Tierney and some very nice passes from Odegaard, he's also too slow to press, tires too quickly and arrives too late in the box to get on chances because he's so slow.

There's been the odd nice touch/flick from Laca and he's done ok as a presence centrally in Auba's absence but as usual some of our fans are going way OTT on him/his importance and again, in the last couple of games he has returned to his usual struggles.

Laca needs upgrading, Xhaka needs upgrading, we need a backup RB for Tomiyasu, a backup CB, ideally one that can play both LCB & RCB but probably more important to replace Mari as it seems (sadly) that he is inferior to Holding. Then we need a backup GK to replace Leno.
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I'll bite and regret it right after...(based on your posting history)

Laca poor?? I am not sure what games you are watching. He is your quintessential 6.5 or 7 out of 10 player. Even when he is not completely on his game, he is still in the game. Harrying, tackling, working his socks off. I am very very happy with his performances since he came in. I think he could use a few more goals but if we win games by 3 or 4 every time he does not play and he does not score, I will be very happy with his all round contribution. If you cannot see what he does to make that front line tick, time to watch a different sport
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Why regret it right after based on my posting history? You're entitled to your opinion

I thought he was doing a decent job helping to link play when he came in to the team initially recently but not so much in the last couple of games and I think it was a bit overstated anyway. In the last couple of games he has looked slow, largely unable to keep up with play or press effectively and given the ball away a fair bit. So if I had to rate his last couple I wouldn't be giving him 6.5/7s.

comment by Tu Meke (U3732)

posted on 27/12/21

Martinelli can come deep and progress play aswell as run in behind and stretch the opposition. Works like a demon too. In fact, all of the front four bar Laca can do it.

If we can get a two way player up front we'll really be cooking on gas

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