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VAR clowns costs us again

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posted on 15/2/23

"god exists"

" it's entirely subjective."

posted on 15/2/23

comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 3 minutes ago
"You could have access to all the data, all the games, as much time as you need - nothing would enable you to prove it, because it's an impossibility.

Much like whether one colour is better than another."

You're the clown that still claims one is better than another.

You keep undermining yourself repeatedly but don't realise it.
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No I'm not.

I'm using it as an example of something that can't be proven because it's a physical impossibility for one to be better than the other in factual terms, so you can therefore state that no colour is better than another.

As usual, you've been schooled and now you're struggling.

We all know you can't ever admit when you're wrong.

posted on 15/2/23

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 3 minutes ago
"You could have access to all the data, all the games, as much time as you need - nothing would enable you to prove it, because it's an impossibility.

Much like whether one colour is better than another."

You're the clown that still claims one is better than another.

You keep undermining yourself repeatedly but don't realise it.
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No I'm not.

I'm using it as an example of something that can't be proven because it's a physical impossibility for one to be better than the other in factual terms, so you can therefore state that no colour is better than another.

As usual, you've been schooled and now you're struggling.

We all know you can't ever admit when you're wrong.
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" it's entirely subjective."

posted on 15/2/23

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 3 minutes ago
"You could have access to all the data, all the games, as much time as you need - nothing would enable you to prove it, because it's an impossibility.

Much like whether one colour is better than another."

You're the clown that still claims one is better than another.

You keep undermining yourself repeatedly but don't realise it.
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No I'm not.

I'm using it as an example of something that can't be proven because it's a physical impossibility for one to be better than the other in factual terms, so you can therefore state that no colour is better than another.

As usual, you've been schooled and now you're struggling.

We all know you can't ever admit when you're wrong.
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- "If you don’t win the league it’s because you’re not good enough."

- "there's never a case where refereeing has prevented a team from winning the league"

These are not examples, they're your own statements

posted on 15/2/23

The matches are subjective.

So even one match in isolation, you can't claim as a fact that refereeing decisions cost you the game.

Therefore it's a cast iron fact that you can't claim as fact that refereeing decisions cost you the league.

And this of course means that I can state, as a fact, that refereeing decisions haven't cost a team the league.

Again, you're lost in the world of this being because it can't be proven. That is not why. It's because the fact it would require to make the statement does not exist.

posted on 15/2/23

You're still arguing why you shouldn't make statements such as

- "If you don’t win the league it’s because you’re not good enough."

- "there's never a case where refereeing has prevented a team from winning the league"

It's impossible to determine, as you say

posted on 15/2/23

"And this of course means that I can state, as a fact, that refereeing decisions haven't cost a team the league."

You don't know either way. You've just argued that for several pages.

posted on 15/2/23

There's absolutely nothing wrong with any of my statements.

It's not impossible to determine that refereeing has not prevented a team from winning the league. It can't have. For all the reasons I've given.

posted on 15/2/23

This all got Existential didn't it....put it down the pair of you......

posted on 15/2/23

It's not impossible to determine that Spurs are complete bottle merchants...but they are...lack of silver & years of ineptitude for a supposed top club show it to be so..

But it's hard to pin down why

posted on 15/2/23

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 hour, 48 minutes ago
There's absolutely nothing wrong with any of my statements.

It's not impossible to determine that refereeing has not prevented a team from winning the league. It can't have. For all the reasons I've given.
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And you've analysed this data and come to this conclusion have you? Checked that referees aren't bribed etc.?

posted on 15/2/23

comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 hour, 48 minutes ago
There's absolutely nothing wrong with any of my statements.

It's not impossible to determine that refereeing has not prevented a team from winning the league. It can't have. For all the reasons I've given.
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And you've analysed this data and come to this conclusion have you? Checked that referees aren't bribed etc.?


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There is no data. It doesn't exist.

That's the point.

Corruption is a different story entirely, obviously.

You're done, aren't you? When will you ever learn that taking me on always ends in defeat for you?

posted on 15/2/23

Your point is

"It's not impossible to determine that refereeing has not prevented a team from winning the league"

Which is negated by your other point that there is no data to support this statement. Your statement encapsulates corruption also.

posted on 15/2/23

It’s not negated by it.

Oh my god. I know you think it is, but just stop and think for a minute.

It’s not proven because the data exists.

It’s proven because it’s a physical impossibility.

You are stuck in this idea that the only reason it can’t be proven is because of a lack of data. Seriously, I can’t believe you’re this thick.

posted on 15/2/23

A physical impossibility
We can scratch logic from the list of your abilities.

You keep calling me thick but I keep destroying you.

Last time you go destroyed so badly you claimed you had £1.7m in your business account so either you can't do the basic maths that suggests it costs a fortune to your business for you to keep attempting to argue your way out of holes on this forum, or you're full of it

posted on 15/2/23

Yes, a physical impossibility.

No matter what the data, time, match videos etc. you have, there is no factual basis to conclude a referee has cost you a league.

It's not possible.

What are you struggling with?

Oh, and pleased to see my successful businesses have stayed with you. Business continues to be good - net profit last year was a little over £400k, whilst also paying myself £155k during the course of the year.

You'll tell yourself it's not true, because that's all you really have left.

posted on 15/2/23

Of course you did Winston

So now you are claiming there is data which can be analysed. Why don't you go away and have a look at it and determine how refereeing decisions influence games to back up your assertion.

posted on 15/2/23

And according to your alleged hourly wage it's already cost you £140 to keep trying to dig your way out of this hole

posted on 15/2/23



There is no data to give you any factual basis. I literally just said that, and you claim the opposite.

You really are a moron.

Oh and please do go ahead and tell me you don't believe me... all it proves is that you can't imagine anyone is as successful as me and uses a forum, which means you're obviously somewhat of a failure.

posted on 15/2/23

"No matter what the data, time, match videos etc. you have,"


"There is no data"

How many times are you going to contradict yourself on this thread?

"There is no data to give you any factual basis"

Prove it. Off you go.

posted on 15/2/23

comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 5 minutes ago
And according to your alleged hourly wage it's already cost you £140 to keep trying to dig your way out of this hole
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Actually it's more than £140.
How did you pay yourself? Lets do the maths.

posted on 15/2/23

Jesus wept.

'No matter what the data'

There is all sorts of data associated with a football match... of course there is.

But nothing that will give you a factual basis for this point.

Seriously, do you actually understand words?

posted on 15/2/23

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 seconds ago

But nothing that will give you a factual basis for this point.

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Prove it

posted on 15/2/23

comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 5 minutes ago
And according to your alleged hourly wage it's already cost you £140 to keep trying to dig your way out of this hole
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Actually it's more than £140.
How did you pay yourself? Lets do the maths.
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Except I don't pay myself using an hourly wage, because I run my own company.

And whilst I'm schooling you, I'm writing a report, watching a TV programme and eating a bag of crisps.

You may have a crap job where you're paid by the hour and can't do anything else while you work, but I don't.

posted on 15/2/23

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 5 minutes ago
And according to your alleged hourly wage it's already cost you £140 to keep trying to dig your way out of this hole
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Actually it's more than £140.
How did you pay yourself? Lets do the maths.
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Except I don't pay myself using an hourly wage, because I run my own company.

And whilst I'm schooling you, I'm writing a report, watching a TV programme and eating a bag of crisps.

You may have a crap job where you're paid by the hour and can't do anything else while you work, but I don't.
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Of course you are
You didn't answer the question. How did you pay yourself?

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