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comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
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posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
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comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by BISS Bash BOSSED (U8366)
posted 2 minutes ago
We should still get 4th. If we don’t it’s underachievement considering where we were. Expectations change as the season goes on, we can’t finish say 6th and say its an its positive just because last hear we finished 8th
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Finishing 6th and getting into Europe is a positive.
Stay humble.
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You need to stay humble the most.
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Stay humble and accept mediocrity, got it.
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You're more than welcome to scream and shout if you want. Knock yourself out.
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And you can kid yourself that everything is just fine, no skin off my nose.
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Free pass. Stay humble.
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No, to both.
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by BISS Bash BOSSED (U8366)
posted 2 minutes ago
We should still get 4th. If we don’t it’s underachievement considering where we were. Expectations change as the season goes on, we can’t finish say 6th and say its an its positive just because last hear we finished 8th
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Finishing 6th and getting into Europe is a positive.
Stay humble.
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You need to stay humble the most.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Stay humble and accept mediocrity, got it.
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You're more than welcome to scream and shout if you want. Knock yourself out.
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And you can kid yourself that everything is just fine, no skin off my nose.
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Free pass. Stay humble.
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No, to both.
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If you want to act like teenager Kevin from Harry Enfield, you do you lol
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 4 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 32 seconds ago
Yesterday was our 8th league defeat of the season and probably our worst performance, how the Hell is anyone trying to spin that as progress?
Overall I’d say he’s done ok, he’s an ok manager, but clearly nothing special and it seems he’s absolutely incapable of adapting when things aren’t going right.
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How many managers out there could have done better? We sold Kane, the previous year we finished 8th and were a toxic mess. We didn’t buy an out and out replacement for Kane. We’ve bedded in Vic, VDV, Udogie, BJ, Werner, Maddison - whilst the established players have had to learn his system.
We have had the most disrupted season I can remember in ages in terms of injury, suspension and international football - it’s been a nightmare.
So yes we are very one dimensional currently, but it has mostly worked - no one on earth (Sandy aside) thought we were going to finish above Arsenal, Pool, City - and they are the only sides we were behind Saturday morning and probably Sunday evening.
The football has been a breath of fresh air, but I agree this summer Ange needs to find better balance and a plan B - I think he will. It’s absurd to even consider replacing him at this point - I do t think there are any realistic managers out there that can do better
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This.
A lot of either fickle fans or people with short memories.
Also look at how poor Arsenal were under Arteta the first few seasons or Klopp at Liverpool. And that is spending more than has been affording to Postecoglou.
I posted yesterday our average squad age starting was 25. With a manager in his first season. Yes we got beat by a team with 27% possession. But not every team is as good at home as Newcastle. And it is a rarity we get a result up there anyway. Few do.
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 1 minute ago
Also look at how poor Arsenal were under Arteta the first few seasons or Klopp at Liverpool. And that is spending more than has been affording to Postecoglou.
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Who gives a f*ck, we’re not Arsenal or Liverpool.
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by BISS Bash BOSSED (U8366)
posted 2 minutes ago
We should still get 4th. If we don’t it’s underachievement considering where we were. Expectations change as the season goes on, we can’t finish say 6th and say its an its positive just because last hear we finished 8th
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Finishing 6th and getting into Europe is a positive.
Stay humble.
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You need to stay humble the most.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Stay humble and accept mediocrity, got it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You're more than welcome to scream and shout if you want. Knock yourself out.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And you can kid yourself that everything is just fine, no skin off my nose.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Free pass. Stay humble.
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No, to both.
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If you want to act like teenager Kevin from Harry Enfield, you do you lol
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Calm down dear.
I’m only saying what most of us are thinking.
The using losing Kane in Ange's defence doesn't sit as well with me. For one thing we had our best ever PL start to a season without Kane here. For another it's not as if we don't have other good players in the team. It's a decent team when you analyse it and has had a lot of money spent on it. Player for player I'd say we are better than Villa.
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 1 minute ago
Also look at how poor Arsenal were under Arteta the first few seasons or Klopp at Liverpool. And that is spending more than has been affording to Postecoglou.
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Who gives a f*ck, we’re not Arsenal or Liverpool.
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Missing the point Automatic. Do yourself a favour and go for a walk. It will all seem a bit better. The result that is.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 36 seconds ago
The using losing Kane in Ange's defence doesn't sit as well with me. For one thing we had our best ever PL start to a season without Kane here. For another it's not as if we don't have other good players in the team. It's a decent team when you analyse it and has had a lot of money spent on it. Player for player I'd say we are better than Villa.
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Very true, but what happened to end that run. Or did the Chelsea game just not happen?
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
The using losing Kane in Ange's defence doesn't sit as well with me. For one thing we had our best ever PL start to a season without Kane here. For another it's not as if we don't have other good players in the team. It's a decent team when you analyse it and has had a lot of money spent on it. Player for player I'd say we are better than Villa.
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Yeah that’s getting really old, and nobody was saying it after the first 10 games were they.
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 1 minute ago
Also look at how poor Arsenal were under Arteta the first few seasons or Klopp at Liverpool. And that is spending more than has been affording to Postecoglou.
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Who gives a f*ck, we’re not Arsenal or Liverpool.
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Missing the point Automatic. Do yourself a favour and go for a walk. It will all seem a bit better. The result that is.
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I’m really not missing the point, you’re comparing us to other teams and assuming that somehow we’ll have the same trajectory.
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 6 minutes ago
Also look at how poor Arsenal were under Arteta the first few seasons or Klopp at Liverpool. And that is spending more than has been affording to Postecoglou.
I posted yesterday our average squad age starting was 25. With a manager in his first season. Yes we got beat by a team with 27% possession. But not every team is as good at home as Newcastle. And it is a rarity we get a result up there anyway. Few do.
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Arteta was given time and I'd advocate the same with Ange but at least Arteta won the FA Cup with them in his first season. Look how we have fared in the cups? Klopp got to a Europa final too. Both came into clubs during the league campaigns so didn't spend the money that Ange has.
If Ange can get top 4 then fair enough, if he can't then the season really isn't anything special at all.
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 1 minute ago
Also look at how poor Arsenal were under Arteta the first few seasons or Klopp at Liverpool. And that is spending more than has been affording to Postecoglou.
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Who gives a f*ck, we’re not Arsenal or Liverpool.
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Missing the point Automatic. Do yourself a favour and go for a walk. It will all seem a bit better. The result that is.
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I’m really not missing the point, you’re comparing us to other teams and assuming that somehow we’ll have the same trajectory.
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I’m not assuming nothing. Merely pointing out the fact that when a manager come in to completely over haul a whole new team from the GK to the forward line, it doesn’t happen overnight. And as you pointed out above, the first ten games showed there is merit in getting behind this manager and his ideas. But simply Rome wasn’t built in a day. This young team can only get better. But it will require the fans to get behind it and have patience when the odd 27% possession defeat away to the likes of Newcastle happens.
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
The using losing Kane in Ange's defence doesn't sit as well with me. For one thing we had our best ever PL start to a season without Kane here. For another it's not as if we don't have other good players in the team. It's a decent team when you analyse it and has had a lot of money spent on it. Player for player I'd say we are better than Villa.
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Yeah that’s getting really old, and nobody was saying it after the first 10 games were they.
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Yes the injuries definitely hampered us. That's why the form is so disappointing since we've got all these players back from injury and have our full strength team again. We are showing no sort of consistency like we did pre-injury crisis.
Ooops that reply was for Belfast.
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posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by BISS Bash BOSSED (U8366)
posted 2 minutes ago
We should still get 4th. If we don’t it’s underachievement considering where we were. Expectations change as the season goes on, we can’t finish say 6th and say its an its positive just because last hear we finished 8th
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Finishing 6th and getting into Europe is a positive.
Stay humble.
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You need to stay humble the most.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Stay humble and accept mediocrity, got it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You're more than welcome to scream and shout if you want. Knock yourself out.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And you can kid yourself that everything is just fine, no skin off my nose.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Free pass. Stay humble.
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No, to both.
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If you want to act like teenager Kevin from Harry Enfield, you do you lol
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Calm down dear.
I’m only saying what most of us are thinking.
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Most people want Ange to succeed and accept the progress he has made even though we have lost games.
Do you?
Because I think you are singing from a different hymn sheet.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
The using losing Kane in Ange's defence doesn't sit as well with me. For one thing we had our best ever PL start to a season without Kane here. For another it's not as if we don't have other good players in the team. It's a decent team when you analyse it and has had a lot of money spent on it. Player for player I'd say we are better than Villa.
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Yeah that’s getting really old, and nobody was saying it after the first 10 games were they.
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Yes the injuries definitely hampered us. That's why the form is so disappointing since we've got all these players back from injury and have our full strength team again. We are showing no sort of consistency like we did pre-injury crisis.
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I agree Spurtle. For me it’s been our MF players that have regressed massively. Bissouma getting malaria. Bentancur have two successive injuries. And Maddison getting injured with a drop of believing his own hype too much for me. But I still feel we will get there and finish fourth. But even if we don’t. Another summer with this manager and I believe we will continue to improve. If not I’ll be the first to hold my hands up and say I was wrong.
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
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comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by BISS Bash BOSSED (U8366)
posted 2 minutes ago
We should still get 4th. If we don’t it’s underachievement considering where we were. Expectations change as the season goes on, we can’t finish say 6th and say its an its positive just because last hear we finished 8th
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Finishing 6th and getting into Europe is a positive.
Stay humble.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You need to stay humble the most.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Stay humble and accept mediocrity, got it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You're more than welcome to scream and shout if you want. Knock yourself out.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And you can kid yourself that everything is just fine, no skin off my nose.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Free pass. Stay humble.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, to both.
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If you want to act like teenager Kevin from Harry Enfield, you do you lol
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Calm down dear.
I’m only saying what most of us are thinking.
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Most people want Ange to succeed and accept the progress he has made even though we have lost games.
Do you?
Because I think you are singing from a different hymn sheet.
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I’m not seeing the progress, I’m seeing the same old inconsistent Spursy bull$hit.
I guess that’s where we differ.
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
The using losing Kane in Ange's defence doesn't sit as well with me. For one thing we had our best ever PL start to a season without Kane here. For another it's not as if we don't have other good players in the team. It's a decent team when you analyse it and has had a lot of money spent on it. Player for player I'd say we are better than Villa.
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Yeah that’s getting really old, and nobody was saying it after the first 10 games were they.
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Yes the injuries definitely hampered us. That's why the form is so disappointing since we've got all these players back from injury and have our full strength team again. We are showing no sort of consistency like we did pre-injury crisis.
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I agree Spurtle. For me it’s been our MF players that have regressed massively. Bissouma getting malaria. Bentancur have two successive injuries. And Maddison getting injured with a drop of believing his own hype too much for me. But I still feel we will get there and finish fourth. But even if we don’t. Another summer with this manager and I believe we will continue to improve. If not I’ll be the first to hold my hands up and say I was wrong.
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We were always going to need more than a season to judge him properly. The fact that we started out of the blocks hasn't helped tempered expectations. I think we can safely say that without that Chelsea game turning out the way it did we'd be in a much better position, and who knows maybe we'd have a sniff of a title challenge. Be that as it may, the injury crisis has passed now and we haven't been good enough in our performances.
Top 4 should give Ange some extra credit in the bank for next season, unless we get top 4 via diabolical form somehow. If we don't get top 4 then there is even more pressure on him to deliver next season. Either way he'll need more time.
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posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
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comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
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comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by BISS Bash BOSSED (U8366)
posted 2 minutes ago
We should still get 4th. If we don’t it’s underachievement considering where we were. Expectations change as the season goes on, we can’t finish say 6th and say its an its positive just because last hear we finished 8th
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Finishing 6th and getting into Europe is a positive.
Stay humble.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You need to stay humble the most.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Stay humble and accept mediocrity, got it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You're more than welcome to scream and shout if you want. Knock yourself out.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And you can kid yourself that everything is just fine, no skin off my nose.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Free pass. Stay humble.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, to both.
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If you want to act like teenager Kevin from Harry Enfield, you do you lol
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Calm down dear.
I’m only saying what most of us are thinking.
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Most people want Ange to succeed and accept the progress he has made even though we have lost games.
Do you?
Because I think you are singing from a different hymn sheet.
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I’m not seeing the progress, I’m seeing the same old inconsistent Spursy bull$hit.
I guess that’s where we differ.
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Defo 👍🏻
I just do not buy the nonsense nobody had us down for xyz. We have played the least amount of games in a season since 2004/2005. Only cup win was a rotated Burnley side at home.
Every other top 10 side has had europe or a cup run we are the anomaly.
Then we look at chelsea poor season, final and a semi final and they could still catch us. United poor season but cup semi final and could catch us.
Then i look at injuries, Chelsea, Newcastle, United, villa have all had worse injuries.So we cannot use that.
We have the best performing under 21s in the country scoring for fun, yet none on the bench. No recognised striker on the bench. But the hapless bryan gil there.
Every gripe i had with conte is there with Ange. Not playing youngsters and a refusal to change tactics. Conte had 3 windows, ange has had two.
comment by look like modric (U7431)
posted 2 minutes ago
I just do not buy the nonsense nobody had us down for xyz. We have played the least amount of games in a season since 2004/2005. Only cup win was a rotated Burnley side at home.
Every other top 10 side has had europe or a cup run we are the anomaly.
Then we look at chelsea poor season, final and a semi final and they could still catch us. United poor season but cup semi final and could catch us.
Then i look at injuries, Chelsea, Newcastle, United, villa have all had worse injuries.So we cannot use that.
We have the best performing under 21s in the country scoring for fun, yet none on the bench. No recognised striker on the bench. But the hapless bryan gil there.
Every gripe i had with conte is there with Ange. Not playing youngsters and a refusal to change tactics. Conte had 3 windows, ange has had two.
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posted on 14/4/24
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by BISS Bash BOSSED (U8366)
posted 2 minutes ago
We should still get 4th. If we don’t it’s underachievement considering where we were. Expectations change as the season goes on, we can’t finish say 6th and say its an its positive just because last hear we finished 8th
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Finishing 6th and getting into Europe is a positive.
Stay humble.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You need to stay humble the most.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Stay humble and accept mediocrity, got it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You're more than welcome to scream and shout if you want. Knock yourself out.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And you can kid yourself that everything is just fine, no skin off my nose.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Free pass. Stay humble.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, to both.
posted on 14/4/24
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by BISS Bash BOSSED (U8366)
posted 2 minutes ago
We should still get 4th. If we don’t it’s underachievement considering where we were. Expectations change as the season goes on, we can’t finish say 6th and say its an its positive just because last hear we finished 8th
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Finishing 6th and getting into Europe is a positive.
Stay humble.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You need to stay humble the most.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Stay humble and accept mediocrity, got it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You're more than welcome to scream and shout if you want. Knock yourself out.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And you can kid yourself that everything is just fine, no skin off my nose.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Free pass. Stay humble.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, to both.
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If you want to act like teenager Kevin from Harry Enfield, you do you lol
posted on 14/4/24
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 4 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 32 seconds ago
Yesterday was our 8th league defeat of the season and probably our worst performance, how the Hell is anyone trying to spin that as progress?
Overall I’d say he’s done ok, he’s an ok manager, but clearly nothing special and it seems he’s absolutely incapable of adapting when things aren’t going right.
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How many managers out there could have done better? We sold Kane, the previous year we finished 8th and were a toxic mess. We didn’t buy an out and out replacement for Kane. We’ve bedded in Vic, VDV, Udogie, BJ, Werner, Maddison - whilst the established players have had to learn his system.
We have had the most disrupted season I can remember in ages in terms of injury, suspension and international football - it’s been a nightmare.
So yes we are very one dimensional currently, but it has mostly worked - no one on earth (Sandy aside) thought we were going to finish above Arsenal, Pool, City - and they are the only sides we were behind Saturday morning and probably Sunday evening.
The football has been a breath of fresh air, but I agree this summer Ange needs to find better balance and a plan B - I think he will. It’s absurd to even consider replacing him at this point - I do t think there are any realistic managers out there that can do better
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This.
A lot of either fickle fans or people with short memories.
posted on 14/4/24
Also look at how poor Arsenal were under Arteta the first few seasons or Klopp at Liverpool. And that is spending more than has been affording to Postecoglou.
I posted yesterday our average squad age starting was 25. With a manager in his first season. Yes we got beat by a team with 27% possession. But not every team is as good at home as Newcastle. And it is a rarity we get a result up there anyway. Few do.
posted on 14/4/24
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 1 minute ago
Also look at how poor Arsenal were under Arteta the first few seasons or Klopp at Liverpool. And that is spending more than has been affording to Postecoglou.
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Who gives a f*ck, we’re not Arsenal or Liverpool.
posted on 14/4/24
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
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posted 51 seconds ago
comment by BISS Bash BOSSED (U8366)
posted 2 minutes ago
We should still get 4th. If we don’t it’s underachievement considering where we were. Expectations change as the season goes on, we can’t finish say 6th and say its an its positive just because last hear we finished 8th
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Finishing 6th and getting into Europe is a positive.
Stay humble.
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You need to stay humble the most.
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Stay humble and accept mediocrity, got it.
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You're more than welcome to scream and shout if you want. Knock yourself out.
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And you can kid yourself that everything is just fine, no skin off my nose.
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Free pass. Stay humble.
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No, to both.
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If you want to act like teenager Kevin from Harry Enfield, you do you lol
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Calm down dear.
I’m only saying what most of us are thinking.
posted on 14/4/24
The using losing Kane in Ange's defence doesn't sit as well with me. For one thing we had our best ever PL start to a season without Kane here. For another it's not as if we don't have other good players in the team. It's a decent team when you analyse it and has had a lot of money spent on it. Player for player I'd say we are better than Villa.
posted on 14/4/24
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 1 minute ago
Also look at how poor Arsenal were under Arteta the first few seasons or Klopp at Liverpool. And that is spending more than has been affording to Postecoglou.
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Who gives a f*ck, we’re not Arsenal or Liverpool.
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Missing the point Automatic. Do yourself a favour and go for a walk. It will all seem a bit better. The result that is.
posted on 14/4/24
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 36 seconds ago
The using losing Kane in Ange's defence doesn't sit as well with me. For one thing we had our best ever PL start to a season without Kane here. For another it's not as if we don't have other good players in the team. It's a decent team when you analyse it and has had a lot of money spent on it. Player for player I'd say we are better than Villa.
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Very true, but what happened to end that run. Or did the Chelsea game just not happen?
posted on 14/4/24
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
The using losing Kane in Ange's defence doesn't sit as well with me. For one thing we had our best ever PL start to a season without Kane here. For another it's not as if we don't have other good players in the team. It's a decent team when you analyse it and has had a lot of money spent on it. Player for player I'd say we are better than Villa.
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Yeah that’s getting really old, and nobody was saying it after the first 10 games were they.
posted on 14/4/24
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 1 minute ago
Also look at how poor Arsenal were under Arteta the first few seasons or Klopp at Liverpool. And that is spending more than has been affording to Postecoglou.
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Who gives a f*ck, we’re not Arsenal or Liverpool.
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Missing the point Automatic. Do yourself a favour and go for a walk. It will all seem a bit better. The result that is.
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I’m really not missing the point, you’re comparing us to other teams and assuming that somehow we’ll have the same trajectory.
posted on 14/4/24
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 6 minutes ago
Also look at how poor Arsenal were under Arteta the first few seasons or Klopp at Liverpool. And that is spending more than has been affording to Postecoglou.
I posted yesterday our average squad age starting was 25. With a manager in his first season. Yes we got beat by a team with 27% possession. But not every team is as good at home as Newcastle. And it is a rarity we get a result up there anyway. Few do.
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Arteta was given time and I'd advocate the same with Ange but at least Arteta won the FA Cup with them in his first season. Look how we have fared in the cups? Klopp got to a Europa final too. Both came into clubs during the league campaigns so didn't spend the money that Ange has.
If Ange can get top 4 then fair enough, if he can't then the season really isn't anything special at all.
posted on 14/4/24
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 1 minute ago
Also look at how poor Arsenal were under Arteta the first few seasons or Klopp at Liverpool. And that is spending more than has been affording to Postecoglou.
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Who gives a f*ck, we’re not Arsenal or Liverpool.
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Missing the point Automatic. Do yourself a favour and go for a walk. It will all seem a bit better. The result that is.
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I’m really not missing the point, you’re comparing us to other teams and assuming that somehow we’ll have the same trajectory.
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I’m not assuming nothing. Merely pointing out the fact that when a manager come in to completely over haul a whole new team from the GK to the forward line, it doesn’t happen overnight. And as you pointed out above, the first ten games showed there is merit in getting behind this manager and his ideas. But simply Rome wasn’t built in a day. This young team can only get better. But it will require the fans to get behind it and have patience when the odd 27% possession defeat away to the likes of Newcastle happens.
posted on 14/4/24
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
The using losing Kane in Ange's defence doesn't sit as well with me. For one thing we had our best ever PL start to a season without Kane here. For another it's not as if we don't have other good players in the team. It's a decent team when you analyse it and has had a lot of money spent on it. Player for player I'd say we are better than Villa.
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Yeah that’s getting really old, and nobody was saying it after the first 10 games were they.
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Yes the injuries definitely hampered us. That's why the form is so disappointing since we've got all these players back from injury and have our full strength team again. We are showing no sort of consistency like we did pre-injury crisis.
posted on 14/4/24
Ooops that reply was for Belfast.
posted on 14/4/24
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by BISS Bash BOSSED (U8366)
posted 2 minutes ago
We should still get 4th. If we don’t it’s underachievement considering where we were. Expectations change as the season goes on, we can’t finish say 6th and say its an its positive just because last hear we finished 8th
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Finishing 6th and getting into Europe is a positive.
Stay humble.
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You need to stay humble the most.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Stay humble and accept mediocrity, got it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You're more than welcome to scream and shout if you want. Knock yourself out.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And you can kid yourself that everything is just fine, no skin off my nose.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Free pass. Stay humble.
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No, to both.
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If you want to act like teenager Kevin from Harry Enfield, you do you lol
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Calm down dear.
I’m only saying what most of us are thinking.
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Most people want Ange to succeed and accept the progress he has made even though we have lost games.
Do you?
Because I think you are singing from a different hymn sheet.
posted on 14/4/24
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
The using losing Kane in Ange's defence doesn't sit as well with me. For one thing we had our best ever PL start to a season without Kane here. For another it's not as if we don't have other good players in the team. It's a decent team when you analyse it and has had a lot of money spent on it. Player for player I'd say we are better than Villa.
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Yeah that’s getting really old, and nobody was saying it after the first 10 games were they.
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Yes the injuries definitely hampered us. That's why the form is so disappointing since we've got all these players back from injury and have our full strength team again. We are showing no sort of consistency like we did pre-injury crisis.
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I agree Spurtle. For me it’s been our MF players that have regressed massively. Bissouma getting malaria. Bentancur have two successive injuries. And Maddison getting injured with a drop of believing his own hype too much for me. But I still feel we will get there and finish fourth. But even if we don’t. Another summer with this manager and I believe we will continue to improve. If not I’ll be the first to hold my hands up and say I was wrong.
posted on 14/4/24
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by BISS Bash BOSSED (U8366)
posted 2 minutes ago
We should still get 4th. If we don’t it’s underachievement considering where we were. Expectations change as the season goes on, we can’t finish say 6th and say its an its positive just because last hear we finished 8th
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Finishing 6th and getting into Europe is a positive.
Stay humble.
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----------------------------------------------------------------------
You need to stay humble the most.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Stay humble and accept mediocrity, got it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You're more than welcome to scream and shout if you want. Knock yourself out.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And you can kid yourself that everything is just fine, no skin off my nose.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Free pass. Stay humble.
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No, to both.
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If you want to act like teenager Kevin from Harry Enfield, you do you lol
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Calm down dear.
I’m only saying what most of us are thinking.
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Most people want Ange to succeed and accept the progress he has made even though we have lost games.
Do you?
Because I think you are singing from a different hymn sheet.
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I’m not seeing the progress, I’m seeing the same old inconsistent Spursy bull$hit.
I guess that’s where we differ.
posted on 14/4/24
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
The using losing Kane in Ange's defence doesn't sit as well with me. For one thing we had our best ever PL start to a season without Kane here. For another it's not as if we don't have other good players in the team. It's a decent team when you analyse it and has had a lot of money spent on it. Player for player I'd say we are better than Villa.
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Yeah that’s getting really old, and nobody was saying it after the first 10 games were they.
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Yes the injuries definitely hampered us. That's why the form is so disappointing since we've got all these players back from injury and have our full strength team again. We are showing no sort of consistency like we did pre-injury crisis.
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I agree Spurtle. For me it’s been our MF players that have regressed massively. Bissouma getting malaria. Bentancur have two successive injuries. And Maddison getting injured with a drop of believing his own hype too much for me. But I still feel we will get there and finish fourth. But even if we don’t. Another summer with this manager and I believe we will continue to improve. If not I’ll be the first to hold my hands up and say I was wrong.
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We were always going to need more than a season to judge him properly. The fact that we started out of the blocks hasn't helped tempered expectations. I think we can safely say that without that Chelsea game turning out the way it did we'd be in a much better position, and who knows maybe we'd have a sniff of a title challenge. Be that as it may, the injury crisis has passed now and we haven't been good enough in our performances.
Top 4 should give Ange some extra credit in the bank for next season, unless we get top 4 via diabolical form somehow. If we don't get top 4 then there is even more pressure on him to deliver next season. Either way he'll need more time.
posted on 14/4/24
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Luka Brasi 🔫 The Sons of Ange 'If we lose I don't care' (U22178)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by BISS Bash BOSSED (U8366)
posted 2 minutes ago
We should still get 4th. If we don’t it’s underachievement considering where we were. Expectations change as the season goes on, we can’t finish say 6th and say its an its positive just because last hear we finished 8th
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Finishing 6th and getting into Europe is a positive.
Stay humble.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You need to stay humble the most.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Stay humble and accept mediocrity, got it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You're more than welcome to scream and shout if you want. Knock yourself out.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And you can kid yourself that everything is just fine, no skin off my nose.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Free pass. Stay humble.
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No, to both.
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If you want to act like teenager Kevin from Harry Enfield, you do you lol
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Calm down dear.
I’m only saying what most of us are thinking.
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Most people want Ange to succeed and accept the progress he has made even though we have lost games.
Do you?
Because I think you are singing from a different hymn sheet.
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I’m not seeing the progress, I’m seeing the same old inconsistent Spursy bull$hit.
I guess that’s where we differ.
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Defo 👍🏻
posted on 14/4/24
I just do not buy the nonsense nobody had us down for xyz. We have played the least amount of games in a season since 2004/2005. Only cup win was a rotated Burnley side at home.
Every other top 10 side has had europe or a cup run we are the anomaly.
Then we look at chelsea poor season, final and a semi final and they could still catch us. United poor season but cup semi final and could catch us.
Then i look at injuries, Chelsea, Newcastle, United, villa have all had worse injuries.So we cannot use that.
We have the best performing under 21s in the country scoring for fun, yet none on the bench. No recognised striker on the bench. But the hapless bryan gil there.
Every gripe i had with conte is there with Ange. Not playing youngsters and a refusal to change tactics. Conte had 3 windows, ange has had two.
posted on 14/4/24
comment by look like modric (U7431)
posted 2 minutes ago
I just do not buy the nonsense nobody had us down for xyz. We have played the least amount of games in a season since 2004/2005. Only cup win was a rotated Burnley side at home.
Every other top 10 side has had europe or a cup run we are the anomaly.
Then we look at chelsea poor season, final and a semi final and they could still catch us. United poor season but cup semi final and could catch us.
Then i look at injuries, Chelsea, Newcastle, United, villa have all had worse injuries.So we cannot use that.
We have the best performing under 21s in the country scoring for fun, yet none on the bench. No recognised striker on the bench. But the hapless bryan gil there.
Every gripe i had with conte is there with Ange. Not playing youngsters and a refusal to change tactics. Conte had 3 windows, ange has had two.
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posted on 14/4/24
Tick Tock….
posted on 14/4/24
These arguments are always fun and a really valuable use of everyone's time.
posted on 14/4/24
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