comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 hour ago
comment by Mr Boggart Hole (U9489)
posted 15 minutes ago
https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/crime-justice-and-the-law/policing/number-of-arrests/latest/
Before I’m called racist here are the facts
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Ah you're one of those people who's education didn't extend to critical analysis.
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That data shows that 2x nife crime is bye non-black than bye black ethnicity
So black people r 50% less likely too b involve in nife crime than non-black people
comment by RED666…Out on the “Right Wing”! (U6562)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Shaun M - supercalifragilisticOrtaisatrocious (U9955)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
Youths are unchecked and unchallenged and until they're not able to do so, will continue to run amok on the streets and in communities.
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IMO, youths lack guidance, counseling, youth centres, role models and economic opportunities and until those are available they will continue to run amok on the streets and in communities.
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Blame the system eh!
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As opposed to blaming peoples cultures? Of course.
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 hour ago
comment by Mr Boggart Hole (U9489)
posted 15 minutes ago
https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/crime-justice-and-the-law/policing/number-of-arrests/latest/
Before I’m called racist here are the facts
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ah you're one of those people who's education didn't extend to critical analysis.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That data shows that 2x nife crime is bye non-black than bye black ethnicity
So black people r 50% less likely too b involve in nife crime than non-black people
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Do you also know that if you stop and search white people, you will save more lives than stop and searching black people?
The country's football fanbase can barely put club allegiance to one side for a minute. so asking them to put race. Colour and religion to one side is a bit like asking Donald Trump to stop being weird.
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Mr Boggart Hole (U9489)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Peks - Comanche Moon (U6618)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Peks - Comanche Moon (U6618)
posted 13 minutes ago
if you don't face up to facts and live in a make believe fantasy world you'll never solve these problems ...simple as
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Do tell us then......not having a go. Genuinely curious what you mean by that.
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Stan the Man ... a mixed race Brit has some solutions . I agree with alot of what he says here
👇
https://x.com/StanCollymore/status/1818583124760006950
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He’s spot on and so are you.
Their culture is the problem.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You say he's right but then do exactly what he was talking about by saying their culture is the problem.
"Let's have this right, at a time when 4 million black and mixed ethnicity Britons are going about their lives peacefully, adding significantly to British culture, several hundred feral youths with a "shank on their waist" ( a famous recent song lyric) are making every single one of the 4 million law abiding citizens of this nation targets of far right cheerleaders who glibly then tar all 4 million as "all the same", and it isn't on."
You and Peks are literally the far right cheerleaders Stan is talking about. You keep stretching the boundaries of stoopidity.
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I've just said I agree with Stan
comment by Peks - Comanche Moon (U6618)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Mr Boggart Hole (U9489)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Peks - Comanche Moon (U6618)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Peks - Comanche Moon (U6618)
posted 13 minutes ago
if you don't face up to facts and live in a make believe fantasy world you'll never solve these problems ...simple as
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Do tell us then......not having a go. Genuinely curious what you mean by that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Stan the Man ... a mixed race Brit has some solutions . I agree with alot of what he says here
👇
https://x.com/StanCollymore/status/1818583124760006950
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He’s spot on and so are you.
Their culture is the problem.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You say he's right but then do exactly what he was talking about by saying their culture is the problem.
"Let's have this right, at a time when 4 million black and mixed ethnicity Britons are going about their lives peacefully, adding significantly to British culture, several hundred feral youths with a "shank on their waist" ( a famous recent song lyric) are making every single one of the 4 million law abiding citizens of this nation targets of far right cheerleaders who glibly then tar all 4 million as "all the same", and it isn't on."
You and Peks are literally the far right cheerleaders Stan is talking about. You keep stretching the boundaries of stoopidity.
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I've just said I agree with Stan
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It's Boggart dude, not you.
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by RED666…Out on the “Right Wing”! (U6562)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Shaun M - supercalifragilisticOrtaisatrocious (U9955)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
Youths are unchecked and unchallenged and until they're not able to do so, will continue to run amok on the streets and in communities.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
IMO, youths lack guidance, counseling, youth centres, role models and economic opportunities and until those are available they will continue to run amok on the streets and in communities.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Blame the system eh!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
As opposed to blaming peoples cultures? Of course.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I haven’t blamed anyone’s culture or did the post you replied to!
In general terms I agree with the OP. Yes it is an emergency, and yes more police, more prison placesand stiffer sentences are the answer
U need moor guns
Nife crime aint so bad in US
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 5 minutes ago
U need moor guns
Nife crime aint so bad in US
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or more good guys with knives
My nephew got his coat robbed off of him in the winter, a coat his dad bought him for his birthday. Can't remember the make but yeah.
4 kids got out of a car and pulled a knife on him and said give me your coat. He dropped it on the floor and legged it before they got close to him.
It was a few minutes from where he lives too.
These kids are fecking mugs and need to be put down.
comment by RED666…Out on the “Right Wing”! (U6562)
posted 49 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by RED666…Out on the “Right Wing”! (U6562)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Shaun M - supercalifragilisticOrtaisatrocious (U9955)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
Youths are unchecked and unchallenged and until they're not able to do so, will continue to run amok on the streets and in communities.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
IMO, youths lack guidance, counseling, youth centres, role models and economic opportunities and until those are available they will continue to run amok on the streets and in communities.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Blame the system eh!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
As opposed to blaming peoples cultures? Of course.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I haven’t blamed anyone’s culture or did the post you replied to!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You are posting from the wrong account saan.
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 5 minutes ago
U need moor guns
Nife crime aint so bad in US
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or more good guys with knives
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That 2
If everybody was arm with a sword like in old days wud b problumb solve
People slaughter the likes of Putin but, irrespective of whether you like or agree with him, he’s a strong leader and isn’t afraid of upsetting people.
We would benefit from a leader with similar qualities. Russia has nowhere near as much knife crime and gang problems as the U.K. and nobody can deny that.
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
comment by RED666…Out on the “Right Wing”! (U6562)
posted 49 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by RED666…Out on the “Right Wing”! (U6562)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Shaun M - supercalifragilisticOrtaisatrocious (U9955)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
Youths are unchecked and unchallenged and until they're not able to do so, will continue to run amok on the streets and in communities.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
IMO, youths lack guidance, counseling, youth centres, role models and economic opportunities and until those are available they will continue to run amok on the streets and in communities.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Blame the system eh!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
As opposed to blaming peoples cultures? Of course.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I haven’t blamed anyone’s culture or did the post you replied to!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You are posting from the wrong account saan.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Oooh dear!
What we should do is if you're caught with a knife, you're put on an island where you have to work with others in order to live and survive.
If you kill someone with a knife, you are put in another island where we have a Battle Royale, just like that Japanese movie. Winner gets to live and stay in a prison cell for 10 years.
comment by Mr Boggart Hole (U9489)
posted 4 hours, 31 minutes ago
People slaughter the likes of Putin but, irrespective of whether you like or agree with him, he’s a strong leader and isn’t afraid of upsetting people.
We would benefit from a leader with similar qualities. Russia has nowhere near as much knife crime and gang problems as the U.K. and nobody can deny that.
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Certainly nobody in Russia can deny it, or else they'd end up in a Russian jail, or accidentally fall from a balcony
Getting tough on criminals without addressing the root causes of crime rarely achieves much. You just get an increased amount of people who spend their lives in jail or briefly out before going back in.
The root cause is usually poverty, a lack of opportunity, substance abuse and abuse.
It's easy to say lock them up for 10 years, 20 years, 30 years, life etc etc and yes it is of course a deterrent but that only goes so far.
A rehabilitated person is far safer for society, and far happier than one constantly doing gruelling time between brief moments of miserable freedom. A person who never felt the desire/need to turn to crime at all is the best outcome and that starts with a better functioning society, something that's been largely let down by the previous government and we'll see if the new one can do any better.
why don't you import american cops?
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 6 hours, 34 minutes ago
Getting tough on criminals without addressing the root causes of crime rarely achieves much.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What if the root cause is that we've not been tough enough up to now?
Talk of rehabilitation is all very well but if (big IF) we are talking about immigrant population then we are asking people to change their culture (not fast or easy) whilst at the same time calling for a multi-cultural society?
Of course, the latter is political claptrap we only want the good bits and put the blinkers on about the bad with no plan how to deal with it.
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 6 hours, 34 minutes ago
Getting tough on criminals without addressing the root causes of crime rarely achieves much.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What if the root cause is that we've not been tough enough up to now?
Talk of rehabilitation is all very well but if (big IF) we are talking about immigrant population then we are asking people to change their culture (not fast or easy) whilst at the same time calling for a multi-cultural society?
Of course, the latter is political claptrap we only want the good bits and put the blinkers on about the bad with no plan how to deal with it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who mentioned immigrants?
Britain is a violent country full of violent people and violent gangs who have used knives, Razor gangs, Teddy boys, Casuals, drug gangs. Only difference I see now from historical gangs is the stabbings rather than slashings and the age of the killers.
What if the root cause is that we've not been tough enough up to now
=====
That doesn't make sense if you think it through.
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 hour, 43 minutes ago
Britain is a violent country full of violent people and violent gangs who have used knives, Razor gangs, Teddy boys, Casuals, drug gangs. Only difference I see now from historical gangs is the stabbings rather than slashings and the age of the killers.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This and a history of taking a lot of alcohol and drugs. Its not an immigration issue but an endemic thing within us since even before the days of gin alley, Jack the Ripper etc.
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 14 hours, 52 minutes ago
Getting tough on criminals without addressing the root causes of crime rarely achieves much. You just get an increased amount of people who spend their lives in jail or briefly out before going back in.
The root cause is usually poverty, a lack of opportunity, substance abuse and abuse.
It's easy to say lock them up for 10 years, 20 years, 30 years, life etc etc and yes it is of course a deterrent but that only goes so far.
A rehabilitated person is far safer for society, and far happier than one constantly doing gruelling time between brief moments of miserable freedom. A person who never felt the desire/need to turn to crime at all is the best outcome and that starts with a better functioning society, something that's been largely let down by the previous government and we'll see if the new one can do any better.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There are various much stricter countries than ours that very hardly any crime. Singapore is a great example.
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Knives = Is it a National emergency?
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posted on 31/7/24
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 hour ago
comment by Mr Boggart Hole (U9489)
posted 15 minutes ago
https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/crime-justice-and-the-law/policing/number-of-arrests/latest/
Before I’m called racist here are the facts
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ah you're one of those people who's education didn't extend to critical analysis.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That data shows that 2x nife crime is bye non-black than bye black ethnicity
So black people r 50% less likely too b involve in nife crime than non-black people
posted on 31/7/24
comment by RED666…Out on the “Right Wing”! (U6562)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Shaun M - supercalifragilisticOrtaisatrocious (U9955)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
Youths are unchecked and unchallenged and until they're not able to do so, will continue to run amok on the streets and in communities.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
IMO, youths lack guidance, counseling, youth centres, role models and economic opportunities and until those are available they will continue to run amok on the streets and in communities.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Blame the system eh!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
As opposed to blaming peoples cultures? Of course.
posted on 31/7/24
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 hour ago
comment by Mr Boggart Hole (U9489)
posted 15 minutes ago
https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/crime-justice-and-the-law/policing/number-of-arrests/latest/
Before I’m called racist here are the facts
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ah you're one of those people who's education didn't extend to critical analysis.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That data shows that 2x nife crime is bye non-black than bye black ethnicity
So black people r 50% less likely too b involve in nife crime than non-black people
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do you also know that if you stop and search white people, you will save more lives than stop and searching black people?
posted on 31/7/24
The country's football fanbase can barely put club allegiance to one side for a minute. so asking them to put race. Colour and religion to one side is a bit like asking Donald Trump to stop being weird.
posted on 31/7/24
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Mr Boggart Hole (U9489)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Peks - Comanche Moon (U6618)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Peks - Comanche Moon (U6618)
posted 13 minutes ago
if you don't face up to facts and live in a make believe fantasy world you'll never solve these problems ...simple as
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do tell us then......not having a go. Genuinely curious what you mean by that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Stan the Man ... a mixed race Brit has some solutions . I agree with alot of what he says here
👇
https://x.com/StanCollymore/status/1818583124760006950
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He’s spot on and so are you.
Their culture is the problem.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You say he's right but then do exactly what he was talking about by saying their culture is the problem.
"Let's have this right, at a time when 4 million black and mixed ethnicity Britons are going about their lives peacefully, adding significantly to British culture, several hundred feral youths with a "shank on their waist" ( a famous recent song lyric) are making every single one of the 4 million law abiding citizens of this nation targets of far right cheerleaders who glibly then tar all 4 million as "all the same", and it isn't on."
You and Peks are literally the far right cheerleaders Stan is talking about. You keep stretching the boundaries of stoopidity.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I've just said I agree with Stan
posted on 31/7/24
comment by Peks - Comanche Moon (U6618)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Mr Boggart Hole (U9489)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Peks - Comanche Moon (U6618)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Peks - Comanche Moon (U6618)
posted 13 minutes ago
if you don't face up to facts and live in a make believe fantasy world you'll never solve these problems ...simple as
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do tell us then......not having a go. Genuinely curious what you mean by that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Stan the Man ... a mixed race Brit has some solutions . I agree with alot of what he says here
👇
https://x.com/StanCollymore/status/1818583124760006950
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He’s spot on and so are you.
Their culture is the problem.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You say he's right but then do exactly what he was talking about by saying their culture is the problem.
"Let's have this right, at a time when 4 million black and mixed ethnicity Britons are going about their lives peacefully, adding significantly to British culture, several hundred feral youths with a "shank on their waist" ( a famous recent song lyric) are making every single one of the 4 million law abiding citizens of this nation targets of far right cheerleaders who glibly then tar all 4 million as "all the same", and it isn't on."
You and Peks are literally the far right cheerleaders Stan is talking about. You keep stretching the boundaries of stoopidity.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I've just said I agree with Stan
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's Boggart dude, not you.
posted on 31/7/24
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by RED666…Out on the “Right Wing”! (U6562)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Shaun M - supercalifragilisticOrtaisatrocious (U9955)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
Youths are unchecked and unchallenged and until they're not able to do so, will continue to run amok on the streets and in communities.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
IMO, youths lack guidance, counseling, youth centres, role models and economic opportunities and until those are available they will continue to run amok on the streets and in communities.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Blame the system eh!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
As opposed to blaming peoples cultures? Of course.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I haven’t blamed anyone’s culture or did the post you replied to!
posted on 31/7/24
In general terms I agree with the OP. Yes it is an emergency, and yes more police, more prison placesand stiffer sentences are the answer
posted on 31/7/24
U need moor guns
Nife crime aint so bad in US
posted on 31/7/24
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 5 minutes ago
U need moor guns
Nife crime aint so bad in US
----------------------------------------------------------------------
or more good guys with knives
posted on 31/7/24
My nephew got his coat robbed off of him in the winter, a coat his dad bought him for his birthday. Can't remember the make but yeah.
4 kids got out of a car and pulled a knife on him and said give me your coat. He dropped it on the floor and legged it before they got close to him.
It was a few minutes from where he lives too.
These kids are fecking mugs and need to be put down.
posted on 31/7/24
comment by RED666…Out on the “Right Wing”! (U6562)
posted 49 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by RED666…Out on the “Right Wing”! (U6562)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Shaun M - supercalifragilisticOrtaisatrocious (U9955)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
Youths are unchecked and unchallenged and until they're not able to do so, will continue to run amok on the streets and in communities.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
IMO, youths lack guidance, counseling, youth centres, role models and economic opportunities and until those are available they will continue to run amok on the streets and in communities.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Blame the system eh!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
As opposed to blaming peoples cultures? Of course.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I haven’t blamed anyone’s culture or did the post you replied to!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You are posting from the wrong account saan.
posted on 31/7/24
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 5 minutes ago
U need moor guns
Nife crime aint so bad in US
----------------------------------------------------------------------
or more good guys with knives
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That 2
If everybody was arm with a sword like in old days wud b problumb solve
posted on 31/7/24
People slaughter the likes of Putin but, irrespective of whether you like or agree with him, he’s a strong leader and isn’t afraid of upsetting people.
We would benefit from a leader with similar qualities. Russia has nowhere near as much knife crime and gang problems as the U.K. and nobody can deny that.
posted on 31/7/24
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
comment by RED666…Out on the “Right Wing”! (U6562)
posted 49 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by RED666…Out on the “Right Wing”! (U6562)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Shaun M - supercalifragilisticOrtaisatrocious (U9955)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
Youths are unchecked and unchallenged and until they're not able to do so, will continue to run amok on the streets and in communities.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
IMO, youths lack guidance, counseling, youth centres, role models and economic opportunities and until those are available they will continue to run amok on the streets and in communities.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Blame the system eh!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
As opposed to blaming peoples cultures? Of course.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I haven’t blamed anyone’s culture or did the post you replied to!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You are posting from the wrong account saan.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Oooh dear!
posted on 1/8/24
What we should do is if you're caught with a knife, you're put on an island where you have to work with others in order to live and survive.
If you kill someone with a knife, you are put in another island where we have a Battle Royale, just like that Japanese movie. Winner gets to live and stay in a prison cell for 10 years.
posted on 1/8/24
comment by Mr Boggart Hole (U9489)
posted 4 hours, 31 minutes ago
People slaughter the likes of Putin but, irrespective of whether you like or agree with him, he’s a strong leader and isn’t afraid of upsetting people.
We would benefit from a leader with similar qualities. Russia has nowhere near as much knife crime and gang problems as the U.K. and nobody can deny that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Certainly nobody in Russia can deny it, or else they'd end up in a Russian jail, or accidentally fall from a balcony
posted on 1/8/24
Getting tough on criminals without addressing the root causes of crime rarely achieves much. You just get an increased amount of people who spend their lives in jail or briefly out before going back in.
The root cause is usually poverty, a lack of opportunity, substance abuse and abuse.
It's easy to say lock them up for 10 years, 20 years, 30 years, life etc etc and yes it is of course a deterrent but that only goes so far.
A rehabilitated person is far safer for society, and far happier than one constantly doing gruelling time between brief moments of miserable freedom. A person who never felt the desire/need to turn to crime at all is the best outcome and that starts with a better functioning society, something that's been largely let down by the previous government and we'll see if the new one can do any better.
posted on 1/8/24
why don't you import american cops?
posted on 1/8/24
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 6 hours, 34 minutes ago
Getting tough on criminals without addressing the root causes of crime rarely achieves much.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What if the root cause is that we've not been tough enough up to now?
Talk of rehabilitation is all very well but if (big IF) we are talking about immigrant population then we are asking people to change their culture (not fast or easy) whilst at the same time calling for a multi-cultural society?
Of course, the latter is political claptrap we only want the good bits and put the blinkers on about the bad with no plan how to deal with it.
posted on 1/8/24
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 6 hours, 34 minutes ago
Getting tough on criminals without addressing the root causes of crime rarely achieves much.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What if the root cause is that we've not been tough enough up to now?
Talk of rehabilitation is all very well but if (big IF) we are talking about immigrant population then we are asking people to change their culture (not fast or easy) whilst at the same time calling for a multi-cultural society?
Of course, the latter is political claptrap we only want the good bits and put the blinkers on about the bad with no plan how to deal with it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who mentioned immigrants?
posted on 1/8/24
Britain is a violent country full of violent people and violent gangs who have used knives, Razor gangs, Teddy boys, Casuals, drug gangs. Only difference I see now from historical gangs is the stabbings rather than slashings and the age of the killers.
posted on 1/8/24
What if the root cause is that we've not been tough enough up to now
=====
That doesn't make sense if you think it through.
posted on 1/8/24
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 hour, 43 minutes ago
Britain is a violent country full of violent people and violent gangs who have used knives, Razor gangs, Teddy boys, Casuals, drug gangs. Only difference I see now from historical gangs is the stabbings rather than slashings and the age of the killers.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This and a history of taking a lot of alcohol and drugs. Its not an immigration issue but an endemic thing within us since even before the days of gin alley, Jack the Ripper etc.
posted on 1/8/24
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 14 hours, 52 minutes ago
Getting tough on criminals without addressing the root causes of crime rarely achieves much. You just get an increased amount of people who spend their lives in jail or briefly out before going back in.
The root cause is usually poverty, a lack of opportunity, substance abuse and abuse.
It's easy to say lock them up for 10 years, 20 years, 30 years, life etc etc and yes it is of course a deterrent but that only goes so far.
A rehabilitated person is far safer for society, and far happier than one constantly doing gruelling time between brief moments of miserable freedom. A person who never felt the desire/need to turn to crime at all is the best outcome and that starts with a better functioning society, something that's been largely let down by the previous government and we'll see if the new one can do any better.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There are various much stricter countries than ours that very hardly any crime. Singapore is a great example.
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