Whatabouttery

Begs the question that if she can afford 2 properties, one worth £700k and +200 miles away from her constituency, then why are the tax payer funding her

The hypocrisy is astounding. MPs get accommodation expenses because they need a London pad for Westminster. Rayners accommodation expenses are about £3000 a month, and are not taxed. Yet she is in the privileged position to be able to afford a 2nd home @ £700k. SHould people like her not be expected to lessen their burden on the tax payer or contribute more?

This seems to be the focus of this Governments policy, that those who can afford more pay more and had tax breaks like private school VAT and IHT on agricultural land end up paying more. Any MP with that sort of wealth should not be living on the back of tax payer when they have the disposable income to go out and buy a 2nd home worth so much.

Perhaps some of their efficiencies should start looking inwards, whether you're millionaire Sir Kier or Sunak or working class girl made good Rayner, why do they get very generous expenses exempt from tax.

Quite right Dev and these actions do have consequences and repercussions with how investors are looking at the UK. People can talk about Nige till they're blue in the face, but it's this Government that's currently making them poorer.

comment by Playmaker (U22780)


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Nope it was a simple statement of fact but you can argue if you want.
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Statement of fact like the post war boom was socialism. Genius stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QxPB1NJ7MY

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj9wxnlnrxdo

"The UK government did not do its own analysis of the cost of the biggest reorganisation of councils in England for decades, the BBC has learned.

Deputy Prime Minister Angela Rayner said "a significant amount of money" could be saved by merging councils in 21 areas into single authorities.

Rayner's department, the ministry of local government, based its cost estimates on a 2020 report commissioned by the County Council Network (CCN) that said £2.9bn could be saved over five years.

But the CCN has since revised its analysis and now says the reorganisation could make no savings and actually cost money in some scenarios."

comment by TheFactChecker (U23259)
posted about 2 hours ago
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj9wxnlnrxdo

"The UK government did not do its own analysis of the cost of the biggest reorganisation of councils in England for decades, the BBC has learned.

Deputy Prime Minister Angela Rayner said "a significant amount of money" could be saved by merging councils in 21 areas into single authorities.

Rayner's department, the ministry of local government, based its cost estimates on a 2020 report commissioned by the County Council Network (CCN) that said £2.9bn could be saved over five years.

But the CCN has since revised its analysis and now says the reorganisation could make no savings and actually cost money in some scenarios."




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No brainer Rayner 🤣

So, if no brainer Rayner is the is number 2 to Sir Keir, she would get to take over if anything ever happened to him ! Gawd 'elp us, as my Dad would say !

https://x.com/amjadt25/status/1961752609079078944

The Epping migrant hotel situation is a massive catch 22 for the government, dammed if the fight it and facked if they don’t.

I can see why they’re doing it because if one council gets its way every other one will follow suit and the government will be facked with having to house 32000 people.


At the same time though the optics are horrendous for the government and it appears they are putting immigrants above the local people.



This is just food and drink for Reform and Farage who I can’t stand.

Political suicide, Bridget Phillipson said on Sky news she agrees that the interests of migrants in the hotel in Epping supersede the interests of the local people.

I can’t believe she actually said that

Word is out to the masses on Government borrowing it seems.

comment by TheFactChecker (U23259)
posted about an hour ago
Word is out to the masses on Government borrowing it seems.


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The French have it even worse I hear

With the current demographic shift going on in Western Europe our politics won't matter much in the long run anyway

The future belongs to those who have the numbers.
Fast forward 200 years (just 8-10 generations) Britain will have the same politics as the Middle East

In fact it won't even be called the United Kingdom of Great Britain & N Ireland anymore, it'll be The Islamic Republic of Britainstan

At least all the woke shiiit will end then I suppose

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gz1_9-uWgAEc_wl?format=jpg&name=900x900

comment by The Assassin😎 AKA Pranks☺️ (U22336)
posted 17 hours, 31 minutes ago
comment by TheFactChecker (U23259)
posted about an hour ago
Word is out to the masses on Government borrowing it seems.


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The French have it even worse I hear
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30 year yield on French Debt is 4.5%
Germany 2.9%.
EU 3.0%

UK it's 5.6% plus.

That puts it on par with Countries like Chile.

comment by TheFactChecker (U23259)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by The Assassin😎 AKA Pranks☺️ (U22336)
posted 17 hours, 31 minutes ago
comment by TheFactChecker (U23259)
posted about an hour ago
Word is out to the masses on Government borrowing it seems.


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The French have it even worse I hear
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30 year yield on French Debt is 4.5%
Germany 2.9%.
EU 3.0%

UK it's 5.6% plus.

That puts it on par with Countries like Chile.
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Damn

comment by The Assassin😎 AKA Pranks☺️ (U22336)
At the same time though the optics are horrendous for the government and it appears they are putting immigrants above the local people.
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Keir was compromised long before he came into power.

Instead of staying impartial, he went down on one knee when people were defacing statues after a man got killed in America.

So he has no right to complain when people are defacing roundabouts after a child was sexually assaulted in Epping.

comment by TheFactChecker (U23259)
posted 1 week, 1 day ago
comment by EVERYTHING’S POTE! (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
Just pointing out that many people aren't driven by wealth accumulation.
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Cmon man, 2+2 does not equal 4 on this one somehwere along the line.

Either she can afford not to give a crap about the 70k stamp duty... . In which case she's not this working class background single mum she presents herself as and has been taking a few backhanders.

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Dear oh dear this is all unravelling now isn't it

SO Rayners defence is:

She sought advice on the stamp duty.

That advice was wrong and further to the media reports she sought further advice which deemed she had under paid.

This seems like a very easy claim to make and I think she should be investigated. Where is this original wrong advice.

If she had not been brought to heal by the media, then "my advice was wrong" would have been no defence if some months / years down the line HMRC investigated her.

It is no defence and for someone in her position it is total incompetence.

"people make mistakes" your Honour !!

Yep. If she's claiming ignorance to this and blaming it on the person dealing with her tax affairs then it doesn't say much for her competence does it.

HMRC have categories for different kind of mistakes. Deliberate can double the amount of tax paid last time I looked. Anyone not erring on the side of caution with HMRC is dodgy in my book.

Just seen the no brainer Rayner stuff🤣

How is it some people on a football forum managed to work out what the stamp duty liability was, but she needed expert advice on it and still got it wrong

comment by TheFactChecker (U23259)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
How is it some people on a football forum managed to work out what the stamp duty liability was, but she needed expert advice on it and still got it wrong
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in fairness i think it is complicated by the fact that she is divorced, and the family home is in trust to her kids but that still does not get away from the fact that it is quite clearly a second home and quite clearly not her primary residence. IMO, it is more likely that an advisor would be telling her that she could make a saving by declaring it her primary home, as opposed to advising her that it actually is her primary residence.

Thus is seems more like a bit of a loophole to try to exploit than being an 'honest error' because as you say, most lay people would know that its a 2nd home and this to be taxed accordingly!