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No Maddison and no VDV is a disaster. Levy - and it really is Levy, has left us with a paper thin squad where the back up players are very well known by our fans to not be good enough
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Most squads in the EPL are the same tbf. Liverpool were proof of that today.
You have 11 players out of a 25 man squad injured.
4 teenagers and a 21 year old keeper started today.
However, I don't rate Ange at all.
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Yeah it was a quote I took from an article Strike wrote before.
Just used it illustrate how at the moment we are royally facked on the injury front. And whilst the manager is far from perfect a lot of people need to appreciate what he is working with.
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He has had months without VDV and never been able to set us up in a way where we don’t look like conceding 2 or 3 a game.
Maddison - i actually don’t think Ange likes him.
The man is clueless. Bournemouth have 10 injuries - yet Iraola has them still in the FA cup and fighting for top 6, this is after we poached their top scorer in the summer.
Ange out
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I didn’t know Bournemouth has had more than 10 players out for over 2 months and that their same players are playing every 3/4 days.
Do you know who else didn’t play as many first team players today? Liverpool, I wonder how they got on against a team who has won one game three months in the championship, just think if they had to play that same line up for the next two months!
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They have 8 players out since 18th of January. Not mid-November as has been the case for Tottenham.
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And they are Bournemouth and we bought their top striker in the summer. Iraola hasn’t mentioned injuries as an excuse once
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Disasters aside Bournemouth have done well. Iraola I have always rated. But it’s a good thing he isn’t have to play 18 & 19 year old players week in week out. I don’t think they’d be doing just as well.
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His main CB is 19 and playing his first season in the Prem - next
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Which one would that be?
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Dean Huijsen - scored against us
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That was his first start. He has played 13 games since then.
Meanwhile we have had nearly 50 starts in PL games for players 18 and under. With over 4,000 minutes between them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So? Iraola is getting it done, with injuries, using young players, far inferior resources.
Ange is a clown - I’m not trying to convince you, I don’t care. I’m just looking forward to the day Levy sacks him so we can all move on. For whatever reason I don’t think Levy will do that until the summer
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He has had 8 players out for 4 or 5 games. That’s a bit different to having 11 players or so out for nearly twelve weeks juggling Europe as well. Saying it isn’t in being ingenious no matter your opinion of Ange Postecoglou.
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They are Bournemouth, we are Spurs - swap Ange and Iraola around - absolutely no chancege has Bournemouth where Iraola does.
But let’s go back to the one killer question that defeats all of the Ange in lot every time - when Spurs sack him, which club in the Prem is likely to give him another shot?
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That a hypothetical that none of us truly know the answer to.
I see him like Bielsa though with his principles. He is very one dimensional and that would put many off.
The more important question is who would want to manage spurs because they believe they can have us competing. And not just someone looking a quick pay day.
Imagine if Jose or Conte were managers this season. Around Christmas there would’ve been a press conference with uttering to ensure they got the boot ‘by mutual consent’.
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Poch - undoubtedly
I think Iraola will come in the summer
I think Frank would come in the summer.
Back to you though, which club do you think would give Ange a second chance?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Like I said it’s a hypothetical. A lot of poorer managers than Ange have managed to get employed multiple times. Some managers have managed to make a career out of constant failure. I still just feel he has to stay the rest of the season. Anything less that 7 wins from the remaining 14 games and Europa league semi and he has to go.
48pts+ and two semi finals and I feel he deserves another season all things considered.
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“A lot of poorer managers than Ange”… like who exactly? Genuinely asking.
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Well considering he came fifth last season after losing the clubs talisman there are loads. But the obvious ones:
Dowie
Wilder
McCarthy
Allardyce
Dyche
Parker
Warnock
Brown
Adams
De Boer
Flores
Meulensteen
Reed
Bradley
Marsch
Jones
Martin
Lampard
Gerrard
There are tonnes of others but you get the jist.
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Why is Ange any better than them? Because he finished 5th in the Premier League?! I’m sorry, but there’s no way on Earth that he deserves more credit than Sam Allardyce, Sean Dyche, Warnock and a few of the others mentioned. Have a look at their win percentages comparatively which speaks volumes.
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Allardyce 34 %
Dyche 34%
Postecoglou 48%
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No Maddison and no VDV is a disaster. Levy - and it really is Levy, has left us with a paper thin squad where the back up players are very well known by our fans to not be good enough
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Most squads in the EPL are the same tbf. Liverpool were proof of that today.
You have 11 players out of a 25 man squad injured.
4 teenagers and a 21 year old keeper started today.
However, I don't rate Ange at all.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah it was a quote I took from an article Strike wrote before.
Just used it illustrate how at the moment we are royally facked on the injury front. And whilst the manager is far from perfect a lot of people need to appreciate what he is working with.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He has had months without VDV and never been able to set us up in a way where we don’t look like conceding 2 or 3 a game.
Maddison - i actually don’t think Ange likes him.
The man is clueless. Bournemouth have 10 injuries - yet Iraola has them still in the FA cup and fighting for top 6, this is after we poached their top scorer in the summer.
Ange out
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I didn’t know Bournemouth has had more than 10 players out for over 2 months and that their same players are playing every 3/4 days.
Do you know who else didn’t play as many first team players today? Liverpool, I wonder how they got on against a team who has won one game three months in the championship, just think if they had to play that same line up for the next two months!
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Bit of a disingenuous comparison to compare the team we put out with your current fit players.
One of Diaz/Jota plays in our current strongest XI , the rest all had the day off. Obviously we should have still beaten Plymouth but even with injuries you still probably have 4/5 of your strongest XI on the pitch most weeks.
I imagine Son, Kulu, Porro, Bissouma and Bentancur are all in your strongest XI when fully fit?
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No Maddison and no VDV is a disaster. Levy - and it really is Levy, has left us with a paper thin squad where the back up players are very well known by our fans to not be good enough
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Most squads in the EPL are the same tbf. Liverpool were proof of that today.
You have 11 players out of a 25 man squad injured.
4 teenagers and a 21 year old keeper started today.
However, I don't rate Ange at all.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah it was a quote I took from an article Strike wrote before.
Just used it illustrate how at the moment we are royally facked on the injury front. And whilst the manager is far from perfect a lot of people need to appreciate what he is working with.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He has had months without VDV and never been able to set us up in a way where we don’t look like conceding 2 or 3 a game.
Maddison - i actually don’t think Ange likes him.
The man is clueless. Bournemouth have 10 injuries - yet Iraola has them still in the FA cup and fighting for top 6, this is after we poached their top scorer in the summer.
Ange out
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I didn’t know Bournemouth has had more than 10 players out for over 2 months and that their same players are playing every 3/4 days.
Do you know who else didn’t play as many first team players today? Liverpool, I wonder how they got on against a team who has won one game three months in the championship, just think if they had to play that same line up for the next two months!
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They have 8 players out since 18th of January. Not mid-November as has been the case for Tottenham.
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And they are Bournemouth and we bought their top striker in the summer. Iraola hasn’t mentioned injuries as an excuse once
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Disasters aside Bournemouth have done well. Iraola I have always rated. But it’s a good thing he isn’t have to play 18 & 19 year old players week in week out. I don’t think they’d be doing just as well.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
His main CB is 19 and playing his first season in the Prem - next
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Which one would that be?
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Dean Huijsen - scored against us
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That was his first start. He has played 13 games since then.
Meanwhile we have had nearly 50 starts in PL games for players 18 and under. With over 4,000 minutes between them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So? Iraola is getting it done, with injuries, using young players, far inferior resources.
Ange is a clown - I’m not trying to convince you, I don’t care. I’m just looking forward to the day Levy sacks him so we can all move on. For whatever reason I don’t think Levy will do that until the summer
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He has had 8 players out for 4 or 5 games. That’s a bit different to having 11 players or so out for nearly twelve weeks juggling Europe as well. Saying it isn’t in being ingenious no matter your opinion of Ange Postecoglou.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They are Bournemouth, we are Spurs - swap Ange and Iraola around - absolutely no chancege has Bournemouth where Iraola does.
But let’s go back to the one killer question that defeats all of the Ange in lot every time - when Spurs sack him, which club in the Prem is likely to give him another shot?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That a hypothetical that none of us truly know the answer to.
I see him like Bielsa though with his principles. He is very one dimensional and that would put many off.
The more important question is who would want to manage spurs because they believe they can have us competing. And not just someone looking a quick pay day.
Imagine if Jose or Conte were managers this season. Around Christmas there would’ve been a press conference with uttering to ensure they got the boot ‘by mutual consent’.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Poch - undoubtedly
I think Iraola will come in the summer
I think Frank would come in the summer.
Back to you though, which club do you think would give Ange a second chance?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Like I said it’s a hypothetical. A lot of poorer managers than Ange have managed to get employed multiple times. Some managers have managed to make a career out of constant failure. I still just feel he has to stay the rest of the season. Anything less that 7 wins from the remaining 14 games and Europa league semi and he has to go.
48pts+ and two semi finals and I feel he deserves another season all things considered.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
“A lot of poorer managers than Ange”… like who exactly? Genuinely asking.
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Well considering he came fifth last season after losing the clubs talisman there are loads. But the obvious ones:
Dowie
Wilder
McCarthy
Allardyce
Dyche
Parker
Warnock
Brown
Adams
De Boer
Flores
Meulensteen
Reed
Bradley
Marsch
Jones
Martin
Lampard
Gerrard
There are tonnes of others but you get the jist.
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Why is Ange any better than them? Because he finished 5th in the Premier League?! I’m sorry, but there’s no way on Earth that he deserves more credit than Sam Allardyce, Sean Dyche, Warnock and a few of the others mentioned. Have a look at their win percentages comparatively which speaks volumes.
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Allardyce 34 %
Dyche 34%
Postecoglou 48%
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No Maddison and no VDV is a disaster. Levy - and it really is Levy, has left us with a paper thin squad where the back up players are very well known by our fans to not be good enough
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Most squads in the EPL are the same tbf. Liverpool were proof of that today.
You have 11 players out of a 25 man squad injured.
4 teenagers and a 21 year old keeper started today.
However, I don't rate Ange at all.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah it was a quote I took from an article Strike wrote before.
Just used it illustrate how at the moment we are royally facked on the injury front. And whilst the manager is far from perfect a lot of people need to appreciate what he is working with.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He has had months without VDV and never been able to set us up in a way where we don’t look like conceding 2 or 3 a game.
Maddison - i actually don’t think Ange likes him.
The man is clueless. Bournemouth have 10 injuries - yet Iraola has them still in the FA cup and fighting for top 6, this is after we poached their top scorer in the summer.
Ange out
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I didn’t know Bournemouth has had more than 10 players out for over 2 months and that their same players are playing every 3/4 days.
Do you know who else didn’t play as many first team players today? Liverpool, I wonder how they got on against a team who has won one game three months in the championship, just think if they had to play that same line up for the next two months!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They have 8 players out since 18th of January. Not mid-November as has been the case for Tottenham.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And they are Bournemouth and we bought their top striker in the summer. Iraola hasn’t mentioned injuries as an excuse once
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Disasters aside Bournemouth have done well. Iraola I have always rated. But it’s a good thing he isn’t have to play 18 & 19 year old players week in week out. I don’t think they’d be doing just as well.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
His main CB is 19 and playing his first season in the Prem - next
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Which one would that be?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Dean Huijsen - scored against us
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That was his first start. He has played 13 games since then.
Meanwhile we have had nearly 50 starts in PL games for players 18 and under. With over 4,000 minutes between them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So? Iraola is getting it done, with injuries, using young players, far inferior resources.
Ange is a clown - I’m not trying to convince you, I don’t care. I’m just looking forward to the day Levy sacks him so we can all move on. For whatever reason I don’t think Levy will do that until the summer
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He has had 8 players out for 4 or 5 games. That’s a bit different to having 11 players or so out for nearly twelve weeks juggling Europe as well. Saying it isn’t in being ingenious no matter your opinion of Ange Postecoglou.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They are Bournemouth, we are Spurs - swap Ange and Iraola around - absolutely no chancege has Bournemouth where Iraola does.
But let’s go back to the one killer question that defeats all of the Ange in lot every time - when Spurs sack him, which club in the Prem is likely to give him another shot?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That a hypothetical that none of us truly know the answer to.
I see him like Bielsa though with his principles. He is very one dimensional and that would put many off.
The more important question is who would want to manage spurs because they believe they can have us competing. And not just someone looking a quick pay day.
Imagine if Jose or Conte were managers this season. Around Christmas there would’ve been a press conference with uttering to ensure they got the boot ‘by mutual consent’.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Poch - undoubtedly
I think Iraola will come in the summer
I think Frank would come in the summer.
Back to you though, which club do you think would give Ange a second chance?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Like I said it’s a hypothetical. A lot of poorer managers than Ange have managed to get employed multiple times. Some managers have managed to make a career out of constant failure. I still just feel he has to stay the rest of the season. Anything less that 7 wins from the remaining 14 games and Europa league semi and he has to go.
48pts+ and two semi finals and I feel he deserves another season all things considered.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
“A lot of poorer managers than Ange”… like who exactly? Genuinely asking.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well considering he came fifth last season after losing the clubs talisman there are loads. But the obvious ones:
Dowie
Wilder
McCarthy
Allardyce
Dyche
Parker
Warnock
Brown
Adams
De Boer
Flores
Meulensteen
Reed
Bradley
Marsch
Jones
Martin
Lampard
Gerrard
There are tonnes of others but you get the jist.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why is Ange any better than them? Because he finished 5th in the Premier League?! I’m sorry, but there’s no way on Earth that he deserves more credit than Sam Allardyce, Sean Dyche, Warnock and a few of the others mentioned. Have a look at their win percentages comparatively which speaks volumes.
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Allardyce 34 %
Dyche 34%
Postecoglou 48%
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No Maddison and no VDV is a disaster. Levy - and it really is Levy, has left us with a paper thin squad where the back up players are very well known by our fans to not be good enough
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Most squads in the EPL are the same tbf. Liverpool were proof of that today.
You have 11 players out of a 25 man squad injured.
4 teenagers and a 21 year old keeper started today.
However, I don't rate Ange at all.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah it was a quote I took from an article Strike wrote before.
Just used it illustrate how at the moment we are royally facked on the injury front. And whilst the manager is far from perfect a lot of people need to appreciate what he is working with.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He has had months without VDV and never been able to set us up in a way where we don’t look like conceding 2 or 3 a game.
Maddison - i actually don’t think Ange likes him.
The man is clueless. Bournemouth have 10 injuries - yet Iraola has them still in the FA cup and fighting for top 6, this is after we poached their top scorer in the summer.
Ange out
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I didn’t know Bournemouth has had more than 10 players out for over 2 months and that their same players are playing every 3/4 days.
Do you know who else didn’t play as many first team players today? Liverpool, I wonder how they got on against a team who has won one game three months in the championship, just think if they had to play that same line up for the next two months!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Bit of a disingenuous comparison to compare the team we put out with your current fit players.
One of Diaz/Jota plays in our current strongest XI , the rest all had the day off. Obviously we should have still beaten Plymouth but even with injuries you still probably have 4/5 of your strongest XI on the pitch most weeks.
I imagine Son, Kulu, Porro, Bissouma and Bentancur are all in your strongest XI when fully fit?
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No Maddison and no VDV is a disaster. Levy - and it really is Levy, has left us with a paper thin squad where the back up players are very well known by our fans to not be good enough
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Most squads in the EPL are the same tbf. Liverpool were proof of that today.
You have 11 players out of a 25 man squad injured.
4 teenagers and a 21 year old keeper started today.
However, I don't rate Ange at all.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah it was a quote I took from an article Strike wrote before.
Just used it illustrate how at the moment we are royally facked on the injury front. And whilst the manager is far from perfect a lot of people need to appreciate what he is working with.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He has had months without VDV and never been able to set us up in a way where we don’t look like conceding 2 or 3 a game.
Maddison - i actually don’t think Ange likes him.
The man is clueless. Bournemouth have 10 injuries - yet Iraola has them still in the FA cup and fighting for top 6, this is after we poached their top scorer in the summer.
Ange out
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I didn’t know Bournemouth has had more than 10 players out for over 2 months and that their same players are playing every 3/4 days.
Do you know who else didn’t play as many first team players today? Liverpool, I wonder how they got on against a team who has won one game three months in the championship, just think if they had to play that same line up for the next two months!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They have 8 players out since 18th of January. Not mid-November as has been the case for Tottenham.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And they are Bournemouth and we bought their top striker in the summer. Iraola hasn’t mentioned injuries as an excuse once
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Disasters aside Bournemouth have done well. Iraola I have always rated. But it’s a good thing he isn’t have to play 18 & 19 year old players week in week out. I don’t think they’d be doing just as well.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
His main CB is 19 and playing his first season in the Prem - next
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Which one would that be?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Dean Huijsen - scored against us
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That was his first start. He has played 13 games since then.
Meanwhile we have had nearly 50 starts in PL games for players 18 and under. With over 4,000 minutes between them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So? Iraola is getting it done, with injuries, using young players, far inferior resources.
Ange is a clown - I’m not trying to convince you, I don’t care. I’m just looking forward to the day Levy sacks him so we can all move on. For whatever reason I don’t think Levy will do that until the summer
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He has had 8 players out for 4 or 5 games. That’s a bit different to having 11 players or so out for nearly twelve weeks juggling Europe as well. Saying it isn’t in being ingenious no matter your opinion of Ange Postecoglou.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They are Bournemouth, we are Spurs - swap Ange and Iraola around - absolutely no chancege has Bournemouth where Iraola does.
But let’s go back to the one killer question that defeats all of the Ange in lot every time - when Spurs sack him, which club in the Prem is likely to give him another shot?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That a hypothetical that none of us truly know the answer to.
I see him like Bielsa though with his principles. He is very one dimensional and that would put many off.
The more important question is who would want to manage spurs because they believe they can have us competing. And not just someone looking a quick pay day.
Imagine if Jose or Conte were managers this season. Around Christmas there would’ve been a press conference with uttering to ensure they got the boot ‘by mutual consent’.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Poch - undoubtedly
I think Iraola will come in the summer
I think Frank would come in the summer.
Back to you though, which club do you think would give Ange a second chance?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Like I said it’s a hypothetical. A lot of poorer managers than Ange have managed to get employed multiple times. Some managers have managed to make a career out of constant failure. I still just feel he has to stay the rest of the season. Anything less that 7 wins from the remaining 14 games and Europa league semi and he has to go.
48pts+ and two semi finals and I feel he deserves another season all things considered.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
“A lot of poorer managers than Ange”… like who exactly? Genuinely asking.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well considering he came fifth last season after losing the clubs talisman there are loads. But the obvious ones:
Dowie
Wilder
McCarthy
Allardyce
Dyche
Parker
Warnock
Brown
Adams
De Boer
Flores
Meulensteen
Reed
Bradley
Marsch
Jones
Martin
Lampard
Gerrard
There are tonnes of others but you get the jist.
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Why is Ange any better than them? Because he finished 5th in the Premier League?! I’m sorry, but there’s no way on Earth that he deserves more credit than Sam Allardyce, Sean Dyche, Warnock and a few of the others mentioned. Have a look at their win percentages comparatively which speaks volumes.
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Allardyce 34 %
Dyche 34%
Postecoglou 48%
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Checkmate to Belfast. Dogs is still seeing red and not thinking straight. Sad but true.
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