Clearly a well thought out article, do you still think we would have lost Rutter etc had we gone up last season?
At least we've got Aaronson.

comment by Promotion 2020 (U22222)
posted 45 minutes ago
Clearly a well thought out article, do you still think we would have lost Rutter etc had we gone up last season?
At least we've got Aaronson.
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I’m actually not sure that Rutter and Archie would have kept us up. I think the money we got for them was excellent though and enabled us to not only rebuild but avoid getting into financial trouble with the EFL.

Of course we will never know because Archie moved to a team that has really struggled and Rutter, whilst he’s had a decent season, has been playing in a pretty established PL team. They have struggled a bit without him though.

Disagree. Had we gone up we would have kept Rutter Gray and Summerville. Leicester and Ipswich have been poor and we would be 18th at worst. With the right recruitment we could be above a few other strugglers this season. No guarantee that Burnley will be as poor as Leicester / Ipswich next season

Stoopo, had we gone up we would have strengthened and got rid of Aaronson Gruev etc
Would have been in a stronger position than how the squad is now.

" Promotion 2020 (U22222)

posted 2 hours, 40 minutes ago

Stoopo, had we gone up we would have strengthened and got rid of Aaronson Gruev etc
Would have been in a stronger position than how the squad is now."

The team is better now than the last time around!..

And the players you and a few others want shut of, now in the premiership maybe the club are planning on doing exactly that!..

That or they're planning on feckin you off again!..

I want the best, not Gruev and Aaronson etc

"And the players you and a few others want shut of, now in the premiership maybe the club are planning on doing exactly that!.."

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"Looking back I think it was possibly a good thing we didn’t go up last season. "

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stopped reading and one star'd it after this Stoops, sorry, not meaning to be argumentative as such but what stupid thing to say.

Spit, I agree with Stoopo, if we'd gone up last year we'd more than likely be one of the 3 coming back down!..

The club wasn't ready and didn't have the recorcess to get the players the internet was demanding last year, but the 49ers have sorted most of the dross in the background now and by not going out and getting players in January have saved a bit more to help out the coming season, so, its now up to them to do the right thing and do what they've said they're going to do!..

The team was better this season than last, and 3-4-6 new players should do the job, but then, it has also got to be asked, how much will they be allowed to spend!..

do me a favour Germany, why both trying to get promoted last season then, or any season.

what a daft notion this is,

comment by Kebablegs (U17699)
posted 23 hours, 11 minutes ago

Disagree. Had we gone up we would have kept Rutter Gray and Summerville. Leicester and Ipswich have been poor and we would be 18th at worst. With the right recruitment we could be above a few other strugglers this season. No guarantee that Burnley will be as poor as Leicester / Ipswich next season

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Agree kebab... and German, Kebab only guessing the same..

my point is, losing a play off final, the so called most lucrative game in English football was good for us because we went up this season instead.

can we not see how stupid that notion is ? - please tell me we're not seriously saying this

the bottom half of the premier league was truly awful last year... we've teams like Everton stay up for a start.. so heres my guess..

we win the play off final, the so called most lucrative game in the English game, manage to keep our best players, added to the squad with the funds we've earnt.. and been totally fine...

this season would have been our 2nd season - more funds.. more additions

instead, we won the league away at Plymouth..

but we're saying we're better off now?

Spit, we're better prepared this year than last, the fans have celebrated one of the best partys of their lives, and they're now hoping we can hold our own in the premiership!..

Do you really think winning last year we'd be better of than now?..

I am not saying it wouldn't have been good to go up last season, I'm only saying this season we're better prepared and if things are done right we should be ok next season!..

he fans have celebrated one of the best partys of their lives,

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What a ridiculous thing to bring into it

we wouldn't have bothered last year then?

Going up last year would have been better imo.
We would have had the whole summer to regroup from our blip with better players.
I feel we invested so much into Rutter and when he came good we had to sell him.
Same with Summerville.
Just like next year recruitment would have been the main issue.

There are some positives to going up this season over last. Farke has shown more as a manager and improved. We have Tanaka & Bogle now. Players like Rodon Piroe & Gnonto have improved.

But losing Rutter & Gray is huge. Rutter is at a level above what we are likely to be able to attract. Gray has the potential to far exceed the players we can afford to buy.

We have also spent another year losing money before player sales.

And our allowable losses have decreased due to another season in the Championship.

Can't see how the positives outweigh the negatives.

Spit, think on, you talk a lot of ridiculous as well, the board is full of it!..

Your opinion v mine, so, one thinks the other at fault, its all part of these boards, but I'll live with it!..

A ridiculous thought eh?..

Germany, sorry mate.. but it is rather ridiculous to bring in 'the fans have celebrated one of the best partys of their lives' as some form of defence for not going up last year..

I wasn't calling you ridiculous but come on ??..

of course we all say daft stuff Germany, I'm not for one second denying that but come on mate

And all I said is I agree with Stoopo on that it was better to go up this time than last, because of the simple reason the club is better prepared for this time than last!..

If we'd gone up last season the fans this would more then likely be in suicide mood now, because we would have had to spend more last season which would have made it very difficult for us to get what we should be able to look at this!..

Do you not think the club are better of this season then last?..

And I know if we'd gone up last season the fans would have celebrated, but I wonder if they would have celebrated like this, because looking on the internetty thing it looks like it'd take a lot of matching!..

Do you not think the club are better of this season then last?..

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No Germany, and I've given you my reasons above

Oh well, I agree with Stoopo and said why, so, no need going on!..

My main reason for saying we are better going up this season is because as a club - that’s owners, manager, players and supporters - we are all much more galvanised after the heartbreak of last season.

We seem to have shaken off that attitude that we know we will fall apart at the last hurdle. Everyone in the media and almost every other clubs fans thought (and probably hoped) we would.

I just think we are more prepared with a good nucleus of players who obviously “get” the club and its fans.

Had we kept the players we sold and gone up:

Was Cree any better than Solomon? Where is he anyway?

Would Archie have had the impact of Bogle or Tanaka (depending where he played)

Rutter is a great player but would he have made enough difference to keep us up?

I realise it’s all hypothetical but after the heartache of last season I think we’ve been treated to the best season for years. I know Bielsa got us up and made a great fist of things in the Prem but that was all on TV and none of us experienced what we’ve experienced this season.

Now let’s enjoy the next chapter and see if the lads can keep the drearies quiet for a few months at least 😏

Now let’s enjoy the next chapter and see if the lads can keep the drearies quiet for a few months at least 😏

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couldn;t agree more Stoops

on reflection, tbf I get where you're coming from..

I just believe that an extra season in the premier league, is more lucrative than in the championship - just has to be logically surely?