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posted on 24/5/25

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 10 minutes ago
I like Garnacho, he always makes things happen.
But I always back the manager, player power can't win.
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I am in full agreement.

I am with you on this 52. I don’t give a damn if he goes to Italy and starts ripping it up.

It is funny, no one is talking about attitude problems like they did with pogba. His brother went online bollocking the manager. He went out there questioning his minutes.

When pogba and Lingard do these things, I am told attitude problems.

Now, we should keep Nahco.

I wonder white.

posted on 24/5/25

If it was a strong dressing room in a team doing well the other players would be slapping Garnacho down. It's not as much of an issue then. However, when the boss os trying to exert his authority then he can't allow any players to be so public IMO.

It's a shame but I think you have to back the manager here.

posted on 24/5/25

comment by Baz tard - ineos your face (U19119)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 JA606 Class Act (U2462)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 JA606 Class Act (U2462)
posted 10 seconds ago
Best to do this now though rather than having a long saga over Summer. Sell soon and buy straight after and get them together asap ready for next season.

Sad it's come to this but it could be what it takes.
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I have totally changed my mind on this. That performance and those decisions against Spurs were just baffling.

I think I'd rather keep Garnacho than Ruben tbh. Garnacho has the potential to be here 10 years plus.
Ruben probably won't be here longer than 12 months.

I don't think we can just throw away Rashford, Garnacho and possibly Kobbie too just to see how this gamble plays out.

I like Ruben and similar to ETH I think he can go and be a success again somewhere else. I just don't think it's going to be with us. We just won't have the hundreds of millions he's going to need.
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If the club have decided to back Ruben though then it makes sense to do this now. What we don't want is a saga over Summer. Better to remove doubt now IMO.
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Remove doubt by booting Ruben out
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They still might do. Vote of confidence isn't always a good thing. Seen loads of managers get booted out.

Say Villa won 3 or 4 nil tomorrow and Spurs get a PT then we will finish 17th on a huge huge low. I think they might get rid or he might walk.

posted on 24/5/25

comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 JA606 Class Act (U2462)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) - 20+6 - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 Resistance is Existence (U1108)
posted 4 minutes ago
Promising young player who will naturally be hit and miss has really been thrown under the bus by Amorin and harshly scapegoated by your fans. You will be probably regret this one.
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How has Garnacho been thrown under the bus by Amorim?
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I don't think he has at all.

You can't have a young player (well any player) be as openly critical of the manager.
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It’s getting to the stage where all our best players are a problem so we just keep the Shiite ones and get worse, we need a manager like Conte who has real rapport with his players at the moment we are dysfunctional at every possible level

posted on 24/5/25

Reckon this fiasco will all be over on Monday morning. Amorim is horrendous and deserves to be fired, hopefully it’s going to happen soon.

posted on 24/5/25

comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Baz tard - ineos your face (U19119)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 JA606 Class Act (U2462)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 JA606 Class Act (U2462)
posted 10 seconds ago
Best to do this now though rather than having a long saga over Summer. Sell soon and buy straight after and get them together asap ready for next season.

Sad it's come to this but it could be what it takes.
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I have totally changed my mind on this. That performance and those decisions against Spurs were just baffling.

I think I'd rather keep Garnacho than Ruben tbh. Garnacho has the potential to be here 10 years plus.
Ruben probably won't be here longer than 12 months.

I don't think we can just throw away Rashford, Garnacho and possibly Kobbie too just to see how this gamble plays out.

I like Ruben and similar to ETH I think he can go and be a success again somewhere else. I just don't think it's going to be with us. We just won't have the hundreds of millions he's going to need.
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If the club have decided to back Ruben though then it makes sense to do this now. What we don't want is a saga over Summer. Better to remove doubt now IMO.
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Remove doubt by booting Ruben out
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They still might do. Vote of confidence isn't always a good thing. Seen loads of managers get booted out.

Say Villa won 3 or 4 nil tomorrow and Spurs get a PT then we will finish 17th on a huge huge low. I think they might get rid or he might walk.
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ETH should have gone when we lost 7-0 to the dippers the game was literally up then and I said the same at the time yet we let an incompetent manger following spend hundreds of millions and absolutely kill us, I thought Amorim from his work at sporting would unite the squad get Rashford going, find the best out of Antony etc instead the complete opposite another divisive manager with his favourites like Mount, I mean hanging your hat on a player will give you three part games a season that’s sackable in itself, Rasmus just what is Amorim thinking he is so bad the lad it’s tragic for him but he likes him, Onana save yourself Amorim as he certainly won’t and can’t I know the Turk is Shiite but at least it’s decisive not one of our defenders trusted Onana on Wednesday and of course the only thing on target bobbled past the idiot while he did his signature dive up before down as we all knew it would.

Amorim has been a disaster of epic proportions, let’s be honest one half decent team in the bottom three and we would be gone two and 115 passes Spurs with us.

I don’t care if we sack him or not as so much else is wrong with the Galzers and Rat Face, what price Qatar now compared to this miser casting misery throughout every cell of the club like never before.

Amorim should walk he will pick up another top job soon enough I don’t think this mess if for him or his style probably Fat Sam or warnock who know how to prepare for what’s coming next season

posted on 24/5/25

Jim scarecrow

posted on 24/5/25

I hate selling a youngster but I understand.
We have been playing Garnacho on the right because the idiot could not play team football but blast the balls over and over again into new and higher rows. I blame Ronaldo coming tbh. He wasn't this player. I knew he would leave. Hope another manager will get the best out of him, save his career. It was actually selling him or loaning him, this might be better in the long run.

He has been given a chance. Even Bruno adjusted more than he did, and they kept on playing him hoping he will adjust. He didnt.

posted on 24/5/25

Sacking Amorim and keeping Garnacho is a better decision.

posted on 24/5/25

comment by Ronaldo McDonaldo 2 (U8472)
posted 17 minutes ago
Reckon this fiasco will all be over on Monday morning. Amorim is horrendous and deserves to be fired, hopefully it’s going to happen soon.
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Na, joking aside as much as he’s been an enormous failure so far, I would still want him to get a chance atleast til Xmas. Losing nacho is just bad management, would have had numerous chances to have a word, and maybe did, but it hasn’t worked. I don’t see jt working out, but he’s got another chance in my view.

comment by 4zA (U22472)

posted on 24/5/25

we will sighn Garnatcho n turn hymn intoo Messi

posted on 24/5/25

comment by Baz tard - ineos your face (U19119)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Ronaldo McDonaldo 2 (U8472)
posted 17 minutes ago
Reckon this fiasco will all be over on Monday morning. Amorim is horrendous and deserves to be fired, hopefully it’s going to happen soon.
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Na, joking aside as much as he’s been an enormous failure so far, I would still want him to get a chance atleast til Xmas. Losing nacho is just bad management, would have had numerous chances to have a word, and maybe did, but it hasn’t worked. I don’t see jt working out, but he’s got another chance in my view.
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And then we’ll be writing off the next three years.

posted on 24/5/25

He’s too good for you.
He’s also not all that good.

posted on 24/5/25

Hes a terrible manager. He needs to get it right quick next season or he is toast

posted on 24/5/25

Garnacho gets into great positions and he’s a really good carrier of the ball, but his end product is not good enough imo.

That said, he’s young and could improve with proper coaching - and I think United have bigger problems at present.

But none of know what he’s attitude is like, of course.

posted on 24/5/25

comment by Ronaldo McDonaldo 2 (U8472)
posted 54 minutes ago
Reckon this fiasco will all be over on Monday morning. Amorim is horrendous and deserves to be fired, hopefully it’s going to happen soon.
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I agree with the words-Reckon this fiasco- all the others are wrong.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 24/5/25

BBC are reporting this story also. Looks like it's true. Can't see any way he doesn't leave now. It appears that Amorim is staying if he has the power to tell Nacho he's leaving. Torn on this one but the manager has to have authority

posted on 24/5/25

comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 16 seconds ago
BBC are reporting this story also. Looks like it's true. Can't see any way he doesn't leave now. It appears that Amorim is staying if he has the power to tell Nacho he's leaving. Torn on this one but the manager has to have authority
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Indeed, but is there a question on if he’s failed to keep nacho on line?

posted on 24/5/25

Cunha is going to come in and play that LF position anyway. He's a better player than Garnacho and is entering his prime years - something we desperately need in the attacking third of the pitch. He's also a more versatile forward in terms of his skillset and the positions he can play.

So in the short term, Garnacho leaving (with Cunha coming in) improves us on the pitch and benefits us financially. The question is whether Garnacho has a high enough ceiling to regret selling him when looking back in hindsight a few seasons from now. I certainly think he'll develop into a very good player and he'll do well in Italy, Germany or Spain. I'm not sure he has the football brain or the explosive pace to be one we really regret letting go of - time will tell of course. He's nowhere near as gifted as Greenwood for example (obviously very different reasons for letting him go!), and Amad has more tools in his locker than him, too.

posted on 24/5/25

Does feel like history is going to repeat itself next season doesn't it?

We are going to force another player out and then end up sacking the manager anyway.

Are our players more difficult to control than players at other clubs?. I simply to refuse to believe this. However something is going wrong somewhere behind the scenes.

We shouldn't be in a position this season where 3 wingers / forwards are all out on loan at the same time whilst we can't score goals.

Just want the club sold now so the grey clouds can finally part. Feels like we are forever doomed until they go.

posted on 24/5/25

comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 2 minutes ago
Cunha is going to come in and play that LF position anyway. He's a better player than Garnacho and is entering his prime years - something we desperately need in the attacking third of the pitch. He's also a more versatile forward in terms of his skillset and the positions he can play.

So in the short term, Garnacho leaving (with Cunha coming in) improves us on the pitch and benefits us financially. The question is whether Garnacho has a high enough ceiling to regret selling him when looking back in hindsight a few seasons from now. I certainly think he'll develop into a very good player and he'll do well in Italy, Germany or Spain. I'm not sure he has the football brain or the explosive pace to be one we really regret letting go of - time will tell of course. He's nowhere near as gifted as Greenwood for example (obviously very different reasons for letting him go!), and Amad has more tools in his locker than him, too.
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On paper, yes. In reality, who knows?

posted on 24/5/25

comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
Does feel like history is going to repeat itself next season doesn't it?

We are going to force another player out and then end up sacking the manager anyway.

Are our players more difficult to control than players at other clubs?. I simply to refuse to believe this. However something is going wrong somewhere behind the scenes.

We shouldn't be in a position this season where 3 wingers / forwards are all out on loan at the same time whilst we can't score goals.

Just want the club sold now so the grey clouds can finally part. Feels like we are forever doomed until they go.
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We couldn't score goals with those players either. We've found goals hard to come by since Ole/Ralf's last season and simply haven't recruited the right attacking players to resolve it. None of these attacking players are Amorim's after all.

posted on 24/5/25

comment by Baz tard - ineos your face (U19119)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 2 minutes ago
Cunha is going to come in and play that LF position anyway. He's a better player than Garnacho and is entering his prime years - something we desperately need in the attacking third of the pitch. He's also a more versatile forward in terms of his skillset and the positions he can play.

So in the short term, Garnacho leaving (with Cunha coming in) improves us on the pitch and benefits us financially. The question is whether Garnacho has a high enough ceiling to regret selling him when looking back in hindsight a few seasons from now. I certainly think he'll develop into a very good player and he'll do well in Italy, Germany or Spain. I'm not sure he has the football brain or the explosive pace to be one we really regret letting go of - time will tell of course. He's nowhere near as gifted as Greenwood for example (obviously very different reasons for letting him go!), and Amad has more tools in his locker than him, too.
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On paper, yes. In reality, who knows?
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Indeed. But I'd like to think if you consistently make the right moves on paper that it will eventually manifest in reality, too.

We've done the total opposite of making the smart moves on paper for over a decade now and we are where we are.

posted on 24/5/25

Another horrendous decision, in a countless line of many now.

Garnacho will go on to be a top wide forward in 2-3 seasons time.

By which point Amorim will have been sacked. The proceeds of Garnachos sale squandered. And we will be back to playing with 4 at the back and wingers most likely.

Bookmark it for in a few years, he will be a top top player for all those who don’t believe it.

posted on 24/5/25

Mctominay just won player of year.

Garnacho and KDB to Napoli? They might win it again next year. 😂

If we sell him, back Amorim and it all goes t1t5 up within 6 months then INEOS are as good as finished. Be very difficult to come back from two identical failures.

If we sack him now and replace him this summer there's no saying that will work either though to be fair. I don't see much positivity in either scenario under this regime.

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