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In a world where Andy Carroll was £35m at 22 years old and Marouane Fellaini went for £27.5m at 25 years old, I don't see the problem with signing an 18 year old with MASSIVE potential.
I haven't read all the comments, so apologies if I am rehashing old comments but are we forgtting the small matter of a sell-on fee?
If he's here for 10 years, brilliant. If he isn't, and providing we don't stuff his contract negotiations up or stifle his playing opportunities (Pogba), we'll recoup a very tidy amount back.
If Madrid bought Januzaj tomorrow for £30m, would people be saying "we got a fantastic deal there" or "we've really ripped Madrid off". I'd bet if we did their fans would point to Fellaini, whilst laughing.
Finally, we all knew with no CL football (and Moyes) we'd maybe have to pay more money for players, now it's happening we have to accept it. Just because Moyes isn't here we're still in the same position.
I have no problem splashing the cash on a known quantity or immense potential.
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Shaw is already one of the best LBs(defensively) in PL. as for immence potential, shaw is already one of the best LBs(defensively) in PL AT EIGHTEEN so of course he has immense potential. He'd go for big bucks no matter where he ended up
A CB is a more key player in a team
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Every position is a key position
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 13 minutes ago
A CB is a more key player in a team imo.
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I think Everton would argue that
comment by Screen - #KloppIn (U8522)
posted 3 minutes ago
I have no problem splashing the cash on a known quantity or immense potential.
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Shaw is already one of the best LBs(defensively) in PL. as for immence potential, shaw is already one of the best LBs(defensively) in PL AT EIGHTEEN so of course he has immense potential. He'd go for big bucks no matter where he ended up
A CB is a more key player in a team
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Every position is a key position
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Correct, if you want to rule the world. And we do
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Everybody wants to rule the world.
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Shinjisshin
Cal Neva
so AMs, wingers, FBs are not important? we cant have any weakness in the team if we aspire to win PL,CL. we must have atleast a decent player at every position, otherwise the opposition would exploit that weakness
Shaw has done fúckall to warrant a 30m transfer. If people were stupid to pay 35m for Carroll or 28m for Fellaini, it does not mean we should continue such idiocy.
The top priority for us is to strengthen our midfield and we would look to spend big money there as we need a couple of players. We also need a wide player, big money spent again. When we have secured those signings, we can look at LB options and I for one have seen nothing and I mean nothing from Shaw to inspire the confidence so many have in his abilities.
I would rather we promoted from within or looked abroad for a decent option that can grow into the role.
30m on an 18 year old who has done nothing yet, what is wrong with posters on this board? Yes we want quality players but we should not be doling out stupid money for every tom, díck and harry
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I for one have seen nothing and I mean nothing from Shaw to inspire the confidence so many have in his abilities.
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that doesnt make you right and everybody else that rates him wrong.
The top priority for us is to strengthen our midfield
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And buying a quality LB, Did you forget all the goals conceded from the left
30m on an 18 year old who has done nothing yet
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first choice for a PL team that is currently at 8th
Already an England international
Already has a fully develop defensive game
Not quite "done nothing yet"
I never said that.Just certain areas are more key than others imo of course.
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We won 2 out of last 4 PL titles with weak CMs, Chelsea are still in the hunt for the CL and PL but their strikers are crap.
there are no real unimportant positions imo, If you are weak at a certain area other players have to change their game to compensate for that weakness, which weaken the team as a whole
Thats some good news then
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id argue that full back is quite an important position to play, got to be offensively good enough to provide an attacking wide option, whilst defensively efficient enough to cope with a pacey/tricky winger, all whilst having the energy levels to do this week in week out for 90 minutes with the knowledge that a lapse in concentration leaves your centre backs exposed and likely outnumbered
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Jalisco Red - The King of Wishful Thinking (U4195)
posted 58 seconds ago
Everybody wants to rule the world.
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It's a mad world.
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We need a Change
wouldn't this break the record for the highest amount paid for a teenager?
Money doesn't matter, he may guarantee 12 years of quality service.
Luke Shaw is good but nowhere worth £30m. He's not even the best LB, Azpilicueta has been outstanding and yes not worth that much. The only reasonable excuse is because his age, selling with the same league and he is English.
£30Mil and 100k per week. Lol are u having a laugh. Done nothing to warrant even half them figures. If united buy him for that much u will truly be mugged off.
comment by Screen - #KloppIn (U8522)
posted 2 hours, 13 minutes ago
I for one have seen nothing and I mean nothing from Shaw to inspire the confidence so many have in his abilities.
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that doesnt make you right and everybody else that rates him wrong.
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Who are these people that rate him? His fellow English men that have rated Ashley Young, Phil Jones, etc. Right?
The top priority for us is to strengthen our midfield
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And buying a quality LB, Did you forget all the goals conceded from the left
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You do realise that if we had a midfield capable of protecting the back 4 we would not have conceded so many goals, right?
30m on an 18 year old who has done nothing yet
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first choice for a PL team that is currently at 8th
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So what?
Already an England international
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1 cameo appearance, Rodwell has more appearances
Already has a fully develop defensive game
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No 18 year old on planet earth has a fully developed football game. Sorry.
Not quite "done nothing yet"
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He has done fk all
He is a decentish player, not even worth 15m
Seems people cant do basic mathematics. £30m over 10 - 12 yrs (which is how long he could potentially be atthe club) = .....
Bargain.
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posted on 23/4/14
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posted on 23/4/14
In a world where Andy Carroll was £35m at 22 years old and Marouane Fellaini went for £27.5m at 25 years old, I don't see the problem with signing an 18 year old with MASSIVE potential.
I haven't read all the comments, so apologies if I am rehashing old comments but are we forgtting the small matter of a sell-on fee?
If he's here for 10 years, brilliant. If he isn't, and providing we don't stuff his contract negotiations up or stifle his playing opportunities (Pogba), we'll recoup a very tidy amount back.
If Madrid bought Januzaj tomorrow for £30m, would people be saying "we got a fantastic deal there" or "we've really ripped Madrid off". I'd bet if we did their fans would point to Fellaini, whilst laughing.
Finally, we all knew with no CL football (and Moyes) we'd maybe have to pay more money for players, now it's happening we have to accept it. Just because Moyes isn't here we're still in the same position.
posted on 23/4/14
I have no problem splashing the cash on a known quantity or immense potential.
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Shaw is already one of the best LBs(defensively) in PL. as for immence potential, shaw is already one of the best LBs(defensively) in PL AT EIGHTEEN so of course he has immense potential. He'd go for big bucks no matter where he ended up
A CB is a more key player in a team
--------------------------------------
Every position is a key position
posted on 23/4/14
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 13 minutes ago
A CB is a more key player in a team imo.
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I think Everton would argue that
posted on 23/4/14
comment by Screen - #KloppIn (U8522)
posted 3 minutes ago
I have no problem splashing the cash on a known quantity or immense potential.
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Shaw is already one of the best LBs(defensively) in PL. as for immence potential, shaw is already one of the best LBs(defensively) in PL AT EIGHTEEN so of course he has immense potential. He'd go for big bucks no matter where he ended up
A CB is a more key player in a team
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Every position is a key position
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Correct, if you want to rule the world. And we do
posted on 23/4/14
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posted on 23/4/14
Everybody wants to rule the world.
posted on 23/4/14
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posted on 23/4/14
Shinjisshin
Cal Neva
so AMs, wingers, FBs are not important? we cant have any weakness in the team if we aspire to win PL,CL. we must have atleast a decent player at every position, otherwise the opposition would exploit that weakness
posted on 23/4/14
Shaw has done fúckall to warrant a 30m transfer. If people were stupid to pay 35m for Carroll or 28m for Fellaini, it does not mean we should continue such idiocy.
The top priority for us is to strengthen our midfield and we would look to spend big money there as we need a couple of players. We also need a wide player, big money spent again. When we have secured those signings, we can look at LB options and I for one have seen nothing and I mean nothing from Shaw to inspire the confidence so many have in his abilities.
I would rather we promoted from within or looked abroad for a decent option that can grow into the role.
30m on an 18 year old who has done nothing yet, what is wrong with posters on this board? Yes we want quality players but we should not be doling out stupid money for every tom, díck and harry
posted on 23/4/14
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posted on 23/4/14
I for one have seen nothing and I mean nothing from Shaw to inspire the confidence so many have in his abilities.
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that doesnt make you right and everybody else that rates him wrong.
The top priority for us is to strengthen our midfield
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And buying a quality LB, Did you forget all the goals conceded from the left
30m on an 18 year old who has done nothing yet
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first choice for a PL team that is currently at 8th
Already an England international
Already has a fully develop defensive game
Not quite "done nothing yet"
I never said that.Just certain areas are more key than others imo of course.
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We won 2 out of last 4 PL titles with weak CMs, Chelsea are still in the hunt for the CL and PL but their strikers are crap.
there are no real unimportant positions imo, If you are weak at a certain area other players have to change their game to compensate for that weakness, which weaken the team as a whole
posted on 23/4/14
Thats some good news then
posted on 23/4/14
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posted on 23/4/14
id argue that full back is quite an important position to play, got to be offensively good enough to provide an attacking wide option, whilst defensively efficient enough to cope with a pacey/tricky winger, all whilst having the energy levels to do this week in week out for 90 minutes with the knowledge that a lapse in concentration leaves your centre backs exposed and likely outnumbered
posted on 23/4/14
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Jalisco Red - The King of Wishful Thinking (U4195)
posted 58 seconds ago
Everybody wants to rule the world.
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It's a mad world.
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We need a Change
posted on 23/4/14
wouldn't this break the record for the highest amount paid for a teenager?
posted on 23/4/14
Money doesn't matter, he may guarantee 12 years of quality service.
posted on 23/4/14
Luke Shaw is good but nowhere worth £30m. He's not even the best LB, Azpilicueta has been outstanding and yes not worth that much. The only reasonable excuse is because his age, selling with the same league and he is English.
posted on 23/4/14
£30Mil and 100k per week. Lol are u having a laugh. Done nothing to warrant even half them figures. If united buy him for that much u will truly be mugged off.
posted on 23/4/14
comment by Screen - #KloppIn (U8522)
posted 2 hours, 13 minutes ago
I for one have seen nothing and I mean nothing from Shaw to inspire the confidence so many have in his abilities.
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that doesnt make you right and everybody else that rates him wrong.
========================
Who are these people that rate him? His fellow English men that have rated Ashley Young, Phil Jones, etc. Right?
The top priority for us is to strengthen our midfield
----------------------------------------------
And buying a quality LB, Did you forget all the goals conceded from the left
========================
You do realise that if we had a midfield capable of protecting the back 4 we would not have conceded so many goals, right?
30m on an 18 year old who has done nothing yet
----------------------------------------------------------------
first choice for a PL team that is currently at 8th
=================
So what?
Already an England international
===========
1 cameo appearance, Rodwell has more appearances
Already has a fully develop defensive game
==================
No 18 year old on planet earth has a fully developed football game. Sorry.
Not quite "done nothing yet"
=================
He has done fk all
He is a decentish player, not even worth 15m
posted on 23/4/14
Seems people cant do basic mathematics. £30m over 10 - 12 yrs (which is how long he could potentially be atthe club) = .....
Bargain.
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