By closing my eyes,hands over ma ears and switching this puter off,all is well with Rangers.

I am not at all comfortable with the stadium being used as security, not a single bit, however it is still folly to suggest that its now entirely impossible for Rangers to move up the league and compete at the top of the SPL under Mike Ashley.

He can get exposure in the Champions League if he makes SD the shirt sponsor, and if just sponsoring these competitions is a better way to go, why did he buy Newcastle??

It would cost him money to simply sponsor the Premier League,a lot of money, and yes he'd likely get a return for it, but how much??

How much is it costing him to use Newcastle to get that exposure??......Is he not getting a far bigger return though milking the merchandise profits of a Premier League club while giving his company that costly Premier League advertising for free??

Same thing can be applied to Rangers

We are a club with a massive fan base that is effectively on telly every other weekend and have an easier route to the Champions League than most Premier League clubs do.

To a small extent we are this already, but if we make it back to the top tier, even more so.

If he can milk the profits of our clubs merchandising while giving his company exposure on telly and possibly even in Europe if we get there, is that not worth more to him than ripping the club to bits and selling off its then rather useless assets??

To use the administration argument, the whole reason the administration laws exist is to keep companies in business as muhc as possible. HMRC never ever wanted to wind us up

Keeping companies going is far better for the economy and far better for the tax man, as it means millions contributed to both still coming over many years as oppossed to a short term profit through selling off all the assets for a pittance in a firesale.

Keeping Rangers going is far better for Mike Ashley than selling bits of the club off.

My worry now is if he tries to use Ibrox as a rental revenue stream to make even more money out of us, but I honestly believe it is just complete nonsense to say he's going to wind us up in the coming weeks and sell off the bits that he can get his mitts on, to me thats just scaremongering

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He can get exposure in the Champions League if he makes SD the shirt sponsor



Oh aye, some Barca fan is going to want a Le Coq shiteiff tracky because it's available in Sports Direct

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They were Patrick

I hear this kind of argumetn everytime it is put forward.

Why are SD heavily involved with Oldham Athletic, a club in League One.

SD sponsors their stadium
SD sponsors ther shirts
Sondico, one of Ashely brands, make their kits.
He built a brand new SD club shop for Oldham

How many fans are going to see that??

It still happened, because advertising at any level, is still advertising, and it if it can be gotten cheaply, its worth doing

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You are completely missing the point Stevie.

Oldham is a club in the UK, Ashley has stores all over the UK and by sponsoring that club, the fans will go to it.

How on earth is Champions League exposure going to help him or Sports Direct?

He sponsors Oldham as he gets exposure there and from their fans.

By sponsoring Rangers it's exposure there and for their fans, no where else and the champions League isn't going to make any bit of difference.

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But hey, Juan fae Madrid will fly over to the UK and purchase a rangers top because he has saw the SD logo on it




I don't understand Stevie's logic in this, I really don't.

Oldham are a UK club, they have a fan base in the UK, their fans will buy stuff from Sports Direct.

Why would a Barcelona fan buy something from Sports Direct because they seen Rangers wearing it in the Champions League?

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How many English Premier League fans would watch Celtic's domestic league games on the telly?? not many

How many English Premier League fans would watch Celtic's Champions League games on the telly?? A good load more.

How many people in Britain tune in to watch Champions League games just becasue a big name is playing, say Barcelona, Real Madrid, Bayern......what if Rangers were there opponents??

What if we get to the Champions League and are drawn in the same group as an English Premier League team?? That'd be two massive televised games with huge UK appeal.

How many of Newcastle's games against the big four are televised every season.....all 8 of them??

Why the fck would Mike Ashley not want that kind of exposure for his company if he could get it cheap??

How much would it cost him to get Rangers back up into that, and how much would it really cost him if he was milking Rangers merchandising profits and getting free advertising at Ibrox in the process??

Can make these points about some Spanish guy no buying Lonsdale trainers all you want.

Rangers in the Champions League with SD on their shirts means a $hit load more UK wide exposure and beyond if it was craved, and the oppostion we might face in that competition could increase that ten fold, and he'd be getting it while making money out of us, not thorugh costly advertising

I have already stated on here that if Ibrox is moved out of the clubs hands, and he starts using that to rip the cvnt out of us, I am done with Ashley, he can get to fck.

I am not supportive of that happening at all, and I dont even want the stadium used as security for Ashely's loans seeing as he never did that with St James at Newcastle, I am not comfortable with that happening, but it does not mean the club is totally fcked and Ashley may still look to push Rangers up and get SD as much exposure as he can

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stevie

I don't know if you use twitter or not but try search through google for this guy

@MikeAshleyLies

have a read of his blogs and what he's done to Newcastle

you will then reassess your opinion

In the Champions League, we are the equivalent of a lower league scottish side drawing the old firm in the cup.

When that happens, everything connected with that wee club gets a boost....fcking everything.

and folk are saying if Sports Direct are heavily sponsoring Rangers, that company would not benefit from Rangers playing the best club teams in the world in live televised matches broadcast worldwide

Have a fcking word!!

stevie

6 possible CL games for Rangers does not equal of even measure against 38 PL games for Newcastle in the richest and most exposed league in the world

you are living in a bubble if you think otherwise

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compare it to a player

where will he get more money / exposre and chances of an international call up

possibly getting 6 games in CL for Rangers

or

Joining an EPL team

as Curly said, if he was part of this CL dream as you believe, then why was our best player sold for forking peanuts?

why has the fat priq not even attended 1 Rangers game?

Stevie you are absolutely off your rocker in thinking the CL is what Ashley wants for Sports Direct.

It makes no sense whatsoever!

Do you actually think people in England watch Celtic and Rangers in the Champions league?

We watch them Stevie, they don't watch us

can just see wee Ricardo in Italy after watching Rangers get leathered of Juventus in the CL

Hey mama get me a Rangers top, that Ian Black, he kick people very well, Ciao

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Dennis

I have seen a lot of that

Wages not going up while others around them are
Lowest increases in revenue
Average gross spend in comparison to the rest of the league
etc..etc..

I know all this, but deep down, Newcastle fans want their club to be competing with the top four in England, and in order to do that, they cannot have Mike Ashely creaming anything off the top, all their money would be required to try and compete with the big boys, and that is what thier major problem is.

If they had a chance to be top of the league while this was happening, they wouldnt be so up in arms about a lot of it, let alone be livid at the man putting them there taking something off the top for himself.

and its not a David Murray situation where money the club simply cant afford to spend is being thrown all over the place either, the club is making a profit and all the debt it has is saddled with the owner.

A lot of that debt was inherited by Ashley, and a lot of the money spent to increase that debt was spent on things the club needs lie players and securing the stadium etc. That debt is interest free, and Ashley is only looking to get it back from whoever buys the club off him.

I simply do not beleive we have as big a problem as Newcastle do in the respect of not being able to compete while Ashley takes a cut.

I do not think we need every single penny we make in order to compete with and possibly beat Celtic to the title, not when Aberdeen are currently competing on a budget far far less to what Celtic operate at, and likely far less than what we would operate with under Ashely. We just need the right manager, to sign the right players and be a $hit load more savvy in teh transfer market than we have been in the past at this club. Again I dont see what is negative about trying to improve in that respect to get resutls on the ptich instead of relying on being able to outspend our rivals either.

I beleive our club can be where our fans want it to be while Ashley takes a cut. That is impossible for Newcastle, but i dont beleive it is impossible for us.

If he starts taking the pi$$, that clearly cant happen, and that is where my trepidation is and why I'm uncomfortable with Ibrox possibly being taken out of the clubs hands and used to make more money for Ashley, less money for the club and hinder our playing squad budget even further that it would be under him or anyone else if he sold the club and kept Ibrox, I do not want that at all.

There is most definately a balance to be gotten where Ashely can take his cut but is not depriving the club to a seriously detrimental effect on the pitch.

and having said that, I feel it is in Ashley's interests to get that balance right because a successful title winning Rangers in Europe is worth more a lot more to him in commercial revenue and advertising exposure , than a stagnant Rangers finishing no better than 2nd place consistently would be.

A stagnant Newcastle in the Premier League keeps the tv millions rolling in and thats all he needs. In order to push Newcastle on it would cost an absolute fortune, so the tipping point has been reached at Newcastle, they will not progress under Ashely, and if I was a Newcastle fan, that would seriously pi$$ me right off, no doubt it would andI'd want him to get to fck

I'm not a Newcastle fan though, I'm a Rangers fan.
My club is in an etirely different league and different situation.

I do not feel spending just enough to be average in the top tier is the tipping point where Ashley will refuse to allow anymore money to be spent on the Rangers team because there was nothing in it for him.

I feel money can and will be spent so we can be of a far better level than SPL mediocrity meaning Ashley will get a better return for his money if the team returns more success on the field. I feel the tipping point for us under Ashley would be at the level where pushing on in the Champions League would not be possible in order for him to get or maximise his cut, and as a Rangers fan, I would accept that, and for me, thats the glaringly massive difference I see between the two clubs