I haven't finished all of them, cos there's so much but I know he's had to deal with situations while being cut off from the force and stuff like that and generally hampers his own abilities

But hold up… doesn’t the age and maturity come into play.. how old were they in their respective Primes?
Luke was a lot older, Ani was still a kid.
He never completed his training as the Jedi order held him back, mostly out of fear.
What Luke was able to achieve and the level he rose to compared to a battle weary Anakin was nothing short of amazing.
And yeh, for all those battles Ani had against Sith Lords and all the Masters he learned from, Luke was the one to not let his emotions get away from him, stay in control the whole time.
Ani would’ve been flash with it, arrogant with it, but I think a mature Luke ultimately has the upper hand.

comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 7 hours, 10 minutes ago
But hold up… doesn’t the age and maturity come into play.. how old were they in their respective Primes?
Luke was a lot older, Ani was still a kid.
He never completed his training as the Jedi order held him back, mostly out of fear.
What Luke was able to achieve and the level he rose to compared to a battle weary Anakin was nothing short of amazing.
And yeh, for all those battles Ani had against Sith Lords and all the Masters he learned from, Luke was the one to not let his emotions get away from him, stay in control the whole time.
Ani would’ve been flash with it, arrogant with it, but I think a mature Luke ultimately has the upper hand.
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Of course Luke was the more calmer of the two but we are talking a one on one fight. Anakin's anger actually made him a more powerful jedi, which was reflected in his lightsaber form.

As I said, Anakin was a jedi master all but in name. Luke was on the fast track program and the trials he had to go through were far shorter than normal jedi.

Anakin in CW was ahead of ROTJ Luke in every aspect.

Let's break it down:
Lightsaber skill = Anakin wins
Piloting skill = Anakin wins
Leadership skills = Anakin wins
Mastery of the force = Anakin wins
Difficulty of opponents faced = Anakin wins
Ability to control emotions = Luke wins
Tactical battle skills = Anakin wins

comment by T-SaliBAG (U11806)
posted 7 hours, 33 minutes ago
Does a shiiiit load of stuff over the course of the books! I guess they always seem like a struggle cos otherwise there'd be no story, but I think he'd eventually surpass Anakin in a one on one
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I agree with the legends bit.

Luke will always be my favourite SW character but Anakin was one of the greatest jedi of all time and let's not forget, he was the chosen one.

I think the following people beat ROTJ Luke in a 1 vs 1:
1. Emperor
2. Yoda
3. Windu
4. Anakin
5. Obi Wan
6. Dooku
7. Prime Maul

comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 3 hours, 50 minutes ago
I think the following people beat ROTJ Luke in a 1 vs 1:
1. Emperor
2. Yoda
3. Windu
4. Anakin
5. Obi Wan
6. Dooku
7. Prime Maul
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I suppose this is all CW era..
I’m gonna get pedantic, and try to corner you here..
So this is RotJ Luke…
What part of the Clone Era we talking here.. Attack of the Clones? RotS?

Out of all the Characters you listed, I reckon,…hmmm

Anakin, he beats
Maul he beats
Dooku he beats
Windu he beats.. not too sure

Have to really think about the others, but at this point
I’ll give you win.

Even at RotJ Luke had been trained a handful of times but Yoda, that’s it. Anakin had been trained since he was a boy by the best of his era and had Obi1 as a master. He’d been taught how to fight rather than how to balance a couple of rocks on top of each other.

I don’t think it’s even close. The chosen one trained for over a decade by legendary Jedi or his son who, even at that point, was just discovering his abilities.

rebels season 1 finished, was actually really good, better than the first season of cw

comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 8 minutes ago
rebels season 1 finished, was actually really good, better than the first season of cw
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You see… and are you over the animation style, or is it still an issue?

comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 21 minutes ago
Even at RotJ Luke had been trained a handful of times but Yoda, that’s it. Anakin had been trained since he was a boy by the best of his era and had Obi1 as a master. He’d been taught how to fight rather than how to balance a couple of rocks on top of each other.

I don’t think it’s even close. The chosen one trained for over a decade by legendary Jedi or his son who, even at that point, was just discovering his abilities.
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I see it differently… at their primes, Ani is a kid, who yes, is battle hardened, trained by the best, but ultimately is held back along the way. I think his maturity lets him down when he comes up against a badass, more or less self trained Luke.

comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 49 minutes ago
Out of all the Characters you listed, I reckon,…hmmm

Anakin, he beats
Maul he beats
Dooku he beats
Windu he beats.. not too sure

Have to really think about the others, but at this point
I’ll give you win.
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When I say CW,I am referring to the end, so around episode 3.

comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 21 minutes ago
Even at RotJ Luke had been trained a handful of times but Yoda, that’s it. Anakin had been trained since he was a boy by the best of his era and had Obi1 as a master. He’d been taught how to fight rather than how to balance a couple of rocks on top of each other.

I don’t think it’s even close. The chosen one trained for over a decade by legendary Jedi or his son who, even at that point, was just discovering his abilities.
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I see it differently… at their primes, Ani is a kid, who yes, is battle hardened, trained by the best, but ultimately is held back along the way. I think his maturity lets him down when he comes up against a badass, more or less self trained Luke.
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Was Luke that mature? He was still very young himself and the only really evidence we arguably overconfidence in Jabbas palace which saw him over the trap door and having to fight the rancor, then with the emporer he let his emotions take get the better of him when attacking Vader. The latter is excusable because Palps was the ultimate manipulator and Luke regained his composure after vader was down. But I’m not seeing this mature, controlled bad-ass. Not at that point.

comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 21 minutes ago
Even at RotJ Luke had been trained a handful of times but Yoda, that’s it. Anakin had been trained since he was a boy by the best of his era and had Obi1 as a master. He’d been taught how to fight rather than how to balance a couple of rocks on top of each other.

I don’t think it’s even close. The chosen one trained for over a decade by legendary Jedi or his son who, even at that point, was just discovering his abilities.
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I see it differently… at their primes, Ani is a kid, who yes, is battle hardened, trained by the best, but ultimately is held back along the way. I think his maturity lets him down when he comes up against a badass, more or less self trained Luke.
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Luke was 23 in ROTJ
Anakin was 22 in episode 3

Anakin was held back but he was still far more powerful and seasoned than Luke.

You keep mentioning maturity but that doesn't have any relevance to a one vs one saber fight. Anakins skill with the lightsaber were so advanced that Luke wouldn't even last as long as someone like Dooku.

It's worth noting that even in ROTJ, Luke had moments of weakness. I recall his hand getting shot at Jabbas palace, he was having a hard time overcoming the storm troopers on the speederbikes and he was terrified when he faced the Rancor.

Let's be honest Stringer, if you put episode 3 Anakin into that pit with the Rancor or you put him on Endor, he doesn't even break a sweat.

comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 21 minutes ago
Even at RotJ Luke had been trained a handful of times but Yoda, that’s it. Anakin had been trained since he was a boy by the best of his era and had Obi1 as a master. He’d been taught how to fight rather than how to balance a couple of rocks on top of each other.

I don’t think it’s even close. The chosen one trained for over a decade by legendary Jedi or his son who, even at that point, was just discovering his abilities.
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I see it differently… at their primes, Ani is a kid, who yes, is battle hardened, trained by the best, but ultimately is held back along the way. I think his maturity lets him down when he comes up against a badass, more or less self trained Luke.
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Was Luke that mature? He was still very young himself and the only really evidence we arguably overconfidence in Jabbas palace which saw him over the trap door and having to fight the rancor, then with the emporer he let his emotions take get the better of him when attacking Vader. The latter is excusable because Palps was the ultimate manipulator and Luke regained his composure after vader was down. But I’m not seeing this mature, controlled bad-ass. Not at that point.
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Don't forget when the Emperor teased Luke about his friends being on the forest moon and the death star was operational, Luke proceeded to force pull his lightsaber and tried to strike down the emperor, who was defenceless.

Stringer, you need to watch episode 3 again.

Anakin was handling business up until his turn to the darkside.

It just comes down to the battle experience and the years of jedi training Anakin had by episode 3. Luke was training for a few years by ROTJ.

Anakin infiltrating Jabba's Palace would be a great watch.

I suspect he would force choke Jabba into giving up the prisoners.

Nah Fam, Luke was about 25/26..

Hmm, you all make valid points, sure Luke did tap into his Darkside but we talking a master manipulator who was telling him to strike down his father, and his father using his Sister as a fallback should Luke not turn.
And Still, he didn’t go all the way with it, whereas Ani, would and maybe think about it later.

When you compare the two.. Luke is easily more Balanced than Ani.
I’ll give you sure, his fighting style would be a major issue for Luke, no doubt, I just feel Luke outsmarts Ani.

And Ani got his Hand cut off… and got scarred in battle.
And there was many instances of Kenobi being frustrated with him.
By RotJ Luke was mature. How he talked to people, he Oozed confidence.
This was a Man, who remember, trained unrestricted unlike Ani, that’s why Ani in the heat of battle, went rogue, the only time he felt he could show the council his powerset.
You mentioned Endor, Leia was in control of the Scout Bike, look what happened when he went solo. .
(Hehe..solo)

No Saber in Jabbas Palace, used his smarts to defeat the Rancor

comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 36 minutes ago
Nah Fam, Luke was about 25/26..

Hmm, you all make valid points, sure Luke did tap into his Darkside but we talking a master manipulator who was telling him to strike down his father, and his father using his Sister as a fallback should Luke not turn.
And Still, he didn’t go all the way with it, whereas Ani, would and maybe think about it later.

When you compare the two.. Luke is easily more Balanced than Ani.
I’ll give you sure, his fighting style would be a major issue for Luke, no doubt, I just feel Luke outsmarts Ani.

And Ani got his Hand cut off… and got scarred in battle.
And there was many instances of Kenobi being frustrated with him.
By RotJ Luke was mature. How he talked to people, he Oozed confidence.
This was a Man, who remember, trained unrestricted unlike Ani, that’s why Ani in the heat of battle, went rogue, the only time he felt he could show the council his powerset.
You mentioned Endor, Leia was in control of the Scout Bike, look what happened when he went solo. .
(Hehe..solo)

No Saber in Jabbas Palace, used his smarts to defeat the Rancor



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Anakin got his hand cut off to Dooku, who is arguably the greatest pure swordsmen of all time.

Luke was the only Jedi in existence at ROTJ, so naturally there would be nobody to tell him he needs more training or he's doing things wrong. Luke took the fast track route.

Luke didn't ooze confidence when he saw the Rancor or when the emperor was mentally toying with him.

You keep saying Luke outsmarts Anakin but how? Anakin has more combat experience and is the superior lightsaber duelist. Tell me how Luke outsmarts him if both are in the emperors throne room and face off with their sabers? Anakin would have disarmed within minutes.

Luke is 23 in ROTJ

https://www.yodasdatapad.com/ages.html

For me the only chance Luke would have is if Anakin let his emotions control him either by being too cocky or angry etc.

If it were a completely clinical fight (like in a training scenario) then Anakin would absolutely destroy ROTJ Luke imo. For the same reasons as have already been mentioned:

Training - Luke had far less than Anakin. Anakin had over ten years with the likes of Plo, Obi, Windu, Yoda, Cin Drallig

Battle XP - not even close the clone wars was brutal and long-lasting. Luke had a battle in an x wing, got toyed with by Vader and destroyed

comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 3 minutes ago
Luke is 23 in ROTJ

https://www.yodasdatapad.com/ages.html
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Ok alright, well that’s even more impressive, at 23 the man’s more complete than Ani ever was.

#TeamLuke
Look, you lot make a fair argument for Ani, and by no means I’m saying Luke has it easy, like you think Ani does. I do believe Ani poses Luke a lot of problems…
But I do believe Luke still wins.

What’s the general consensus out there, more importantly what’s the streets saying?

What a great argument this is

You are both wrong by the way as the strongest depends on which guy/gal they drag out to do the writing for whichever chapter/story/show being written. It is just as likely one of them is behind the inquisitor mask these days....