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JPM are convinced of imminent rate cut, but I can't see the currency taking much more of a beating.
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Ooops, can we put the leave vote down to a bit of crack, andjust forget it?
I voted leave, and admit I did not analyse who would cut our deal, as I do not fully trust boris and co to fight for t he working classes who backed brexit, along with other leavers.
I see that the eu is quite hostile towards the uk, so say fek em,get us outta brussels, and we all work hard to make this success....not for the rich to get richer here.
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 minute ago
does anyone think the pound will get back to normal anytime soon?
No, the country is in turmoil. When we know who the next PM is, the date we trigger Clause 50 and who's going to lead the opposition is when it might settle down.
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the £20 notes in my wallet are worthless right now
comment by Better Call Martial - Football taught by Matt Busby (U11781)
posted 55 seconds ago
The Associated Press @AP 51s52 seconds ago
BREAKING: Germany's Merkel says she sees no way to reverse British EU exit vote.
would love to chin this woman
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well that would be one way to begin the negotiations
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Maybe the England fans on their way home from France could go via Brussels and slap a few people.
No wait, they would probably get chased off by a small group of Latvian chimney sweeps.
Sounds like the Sun is getting behind Johnson.
Yea boris, I saw you take on the russian ultras......nice work, Rocky😠
It was 20,000 against 150.
I didn't like those odds.
comment by rossobianchi - carry me back to the Stretford End (U17054)
posted 3 minutes ago
Corbyn has been very clear in condemning the atrocities committed against the British and the Irish people by both sides. To suggest otherwise is an outright lie.
On his contact with Sinn Fein on Radio Ulster last year:
“Quite simply, I maintained contact with Sinn Fein and believed that there had to be a political, not a military, solution to the situation in Northern Ireland."
“The British government developed that process, the Labour Party developed that process, and eventually we had agreement between the SDLP and Sinn Fein, which was the important step forward, and then the historic agreement between the generality of the Unionists and the generality of the republican movement.”
“We got the two ceasefires and eventually the Belfast agreement. Northern Ireland has taught the whole world an awful lot about resolving conflict by understanding the historical process of both communities."
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He's been called out on his backtracking. That's just him using political speak.
Why are you denying his past? It's out there for all to see, why are you calling us liars when the evidence shows otherwise?
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 5 minutes ago
does anyone think the pound will get back to normal anytime soon?
No, the country is in turmoil. When we know who the next PM is, the date we trigger Clause 50 and who's going to lead the opposition is when it might settle down.
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I actually think the pound will stabalise as our politicians stall the EU exit.
However it will plummet once we do begin the exit and fail to make particularly good trade and movement agreements.
This will happen as the EU will make an example of the UK, if they don't then the EU would crumble - there is absolutely no way we'll get a better deal but we could get some of the same things - trade and free movement but without having any say in EU policy - and that will also destabilise confidence.
comment by Better Call Martial - Football taught by Matt Busby (U11781)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 minute ago
does anyone think the pound will get back to normal anytime soon?
No, the country is in turmoil. When we know who the next PM is, the date we trigger Clause 50 and who's going to lead the opposition is when it might settle down.
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the £20 notes in my wallet are worthless right now
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Get a grip, we're not Zimbabwe ffs. Bloody drama queen.
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 39 seconds ago
It was 20,000 against 150.
I didn't like those odds.
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It was a group of trained thugs attacking individual fans who they caught, or hitting guys putting upno defence, or running the family section at the end of the game.
At no point did i see the russians confront a similar sized bunch on the England side, then after two days, they were gone?????
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by rossobianchi - carry me back to the Stretford End (U17054)
posted 3 minutes ago
Corbyn has been very clear in condemning the atrocities committed against the British and the Irish people by both sides. To suggest otherwise is an outright lie.
On his contact with Sinn Fein on Radio Ulster last year:
“Quite simply, I maintained contact with Sinn Fein and believed that there had to be a political, not a military, solution to the situation in Northern Ireland."
“The British government developed that process, the Labour Party developed that process, and eventually we had agreement between the SDLP and Sinn Fein, which was the important step forward, and then the historic agreement between the generality of the Unionists and the generality of the republican movement.”
“We got the two ceasefires and eventually the Belfast agreement. Northern Ireland has taught the whole world an awful lot about resolving conflict by understanding the historical process of both communities."
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He's been called out on his backtracking. That's just him using political speak.
Why are you denying his past? It's out there for all to see, why are you calling us liars when the evidence shows otherwise?
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I am yet to see any evidence that suggests he ever thought the bombing was justifiable.
I won't deny he was in contact with former PIRA members and with Sinn Fein through the 1980s and 1990s. You can argue that was wrong; that's fair enough. People have different views on that.
But please don't suggest he was a supporter of violent terrorist activity.
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 7 minutes ago
Sounds like the Sun is getting behind Johnson.
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He's got to be the favourite on day one.
He's massively popular amongst the general public for a leading Tory, won a very surprising number of votes in London twice and spearheaded the Leave campaign.
http://www.comres.co.uk/boris-johnson-britains-most-popular-politician-2/
Rossoblanci
I ask again, didcorbyn meet any moderate unionist or loyalist, if he wanted peace thirty years ago?
Did he invite UDA or Uvf members to Wstminster?
When corbyn and mcdonnell got power inlabour, they were called out as pira fans, and like Blair, spun lies to waffle about peace.
Is corbyn talking to isis 7/7 bombers now, and if not why not, using your logic, and belief in jezza?
Will he invite britain first, Edl or the murderer Mair, w ho killed Jo Cox to wee chats, and prais their actions, as mcdonnell praised pira for using violence to get to the talks table, with leverage?
You know very little of this,but I lived it for thirty years.
He's massively popular amongst the general public for a leading Tory, won a very surprising number of votes in London twice and spearheaded the Leave campaign.
He's popular in London, less than 10% of the electorate.
I'm sure the times he's slagged off Liverpool, Newcastle, Birmingham, Wales etc on Have I got News For You will get a good airing prior to any General Election.
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comment by I want a Manè but can't grow my hair (U1863)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by rossobianchi - carry me back to the Stretford End (U17054)
posted 3 minutes ago
Corbyn has been very clear in condemning the atrocities committed against the British and the Irish people by both sides. To suggest otherwise is an outright lie.
On his contact with Sinn Fein on Radio Ulster last year:
“Quite simply, I maintained contact with Sinn Fein and believed that there had to be a political, not a military, solution to the situation in Northern Ireland."
“The British government developed that process, the Labour Party developed that process, and eventually we had agreement between the SDLP and Sinn Fein, which was the important step forward, and then the historic agreement between the generality of the Unionists and the generality of the republican movement.”
“We got the two ceasefires and eventually the Belfast agreement. Northern Ireland has taught the whole world an awful lot about resolving conflict by understanding the historical process of both communities."
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He's been called out on his backtracking. That's just him using political speak.
Why are you denying his past? It's out there for all to see, why are you calling us liars when the evidence shows otherwise?
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I am yet to see any evidence that suggests he ever thought the bombing was justifiable.
I won't deny he was in contact with former PIRA members and with Sinn Fein through the 1980s and 1990s. You can argue that was wrong; that's fair enough. People have different views on that.
But please don't suggest he was a supporter of violent terrorist activity.
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How would you interpret him conducting a minutes silence for dead PIRA bombers?
Or condemning the operation that killed three PIRA terrorists in Gibraltar?
Corbyn addressed rallies in north london where pira bands and supporters were gathered, for troops out demo's, after brighton,hyde park, enniskillen etc.
Sinn fein pira overlap n membership, and london bmber gerry kelly is part of the group corbyn backed, and again, no peace process was underway early eighties,but the far left supporter irish republcan militants.
Corbyn could have dealt with constitutional politicians,but opted for sectarian murder gangs, thus helping prolong violence.
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posted 8 minutes ago
comment by I want a Manè but can't grow my hair (U1863)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by rossobianchi - carry me back to the Stretford End (U17054)
posted 3 minutes ago
Corbyn has been very clear in condemning the atrocities committed against the British and the Irish people by both sides. To suggest otherwise is an outright lie.
On his contact with Sinn Fein on Radio Ulster last year:
“Quite simply, I maintained contact with Sinn Fein and believed that there had to be a political, not a military, solution to the situation in Northern Ireland."
“The British government developed that process, the Labour Party developed that process, and eventually we had agreement between the SDLP and Sinn Fein, which was the important step forward, and then the historic agreement between the generality of the Unionists and the generality of the republican movement.”
“We got the two ceasefires and eventually the Belfast agreement. Northern Ireland has taught the whole world an awful lot about resolving conflict by understanding the historical process of both communities."
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He's been called out on his backtracking. That's just him using political speak.
Why are you denying his past? It's out there for all to see, why are you calling us liars when the evidence shows otherwise?
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I am yet to see any evidence that suggests he ever thought the bombing was justifiable.
I won't deny he was in contact with former PIRA members and with Sinn Fein through the 1980s and 1990s. You can argue that was wrong; that's fair enough. People have different views on that.
But please don't suggest he was a supporter of violent terrorist activity.
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How would you interpret him conducting a minutes silence for dead PIRA bombers?
Or condemning the operation that killed three PIRA terrorists in Gibraltar?
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I honestly don't know enough about the context around either event, but wouldn't on the face of it read that either act suggested he was condoning violent action.
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comment by rossobianchi - carry me back to the Stretford End (U17054)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by I want a Manè but can't grow my hair (U1863)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by rossobianchi - carry me back to the Stretford End (U17054)
posted 3 minutes ago
Corbyn has been very clear in condemning the atrocities committed against the British and the Irish people by both sides. To suggest otherwise is an outright lie.
On his contact with Sinn Fein on Radio Ulster last year:
“Quite simply, I maintained contact with Sinn Fein and believed that there had to be a political, not a military, solution to the situation in Northern Ireland."
“The British government developed that process, the Labour Party developed that process, and eventually we had agreement between the SDLP and Sinn Fein, which was the important step forward, and then the historic agreement between the generality of the Unionists and the generality of the republican movement.”
“We got the two ceasefires and eventually the Belfast agreement. Northern Ireland has taught the whole world an awful lot about resolving conflict by understanding the historical process of both communities."
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He's been called out on his backtracking. That's just him using political speak.
Why are you denying his past? It's out there for all to see, why are you calling us liars when the evidence shows otherwise?
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I am yet to see any evidence that suggests he ever thought the bombing was justifiable.
I won't deny he was in contact with former PIRA members and with Sinn Fein through the 1980s and 1990s. You can argue that was wrong; that's fair enough. People have different views on that.
But please don't suggest he was a supporter of violent terrorist activity.
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How would you interpret him conducting a minutes silence for dead PIRA bombers?
Or condemning the operation that killed three PIRA terrorists in Gibraltar?
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I honestly don't know enough about the context around either event, but wouldn't on the face of it read that either act suggested he was condoning violent action.
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I think you're blindly defending him. What would you say if a politician took part in a minutes silence for a dead Isis terrorist? This is no different.
This was about the first time I started to take an interest in politics.
The country was revulsed by PIRA atrocities at the time but I never remember him once condemming them, instead he was taking Nationalist figures on guided tours of the Houses of Parliament in an act of grossing wumming to use a modern phrase.
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 1 minute ago
Corbyn addressed rallies in north london where pira bands and supporters were gathered, for troops out demo's, after brighton,hyde park, enniskillen etc.
Sinn fein pira overlap n membership, and london bmber gerry kelly is part of the group corbyn backed, and again, no peace process was underway early eighties,but the far left supporter irish republcan militants.
Corbyn could have dealt with constitutional politicians,but opted for sectarian murder gangs, thus helping prolong violence.
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I'm not arguing in support of his actions. I honesty don't know how productive or counterproductive they were. He obviously worked then, as he does now, from a position of support for Irish Unification (which explains why he wouldn't have invited loyalists to Westminster in the 1980s and 1990s).
What I do believe is firstly, that he believed in and worked for a diplomatic solution, and secondly, that he has been consistent throughout his political career in condemning acts of violence.
Corbyn and mcdonnell are comrades of sinn fein pira, even now gerry adams praises him, and corbyn refuses to let labour set up n belfast, as he is a bigot,like gerry adams.
Mcdnnell and corbyn received gifts from sinn fein pira, such asa pic of bobby sands, at a south london pub meeting.
Corbyn is a suppoter of violent groups, such as hamas and pira,and is on record saying so..Horrid weasel,living in a tip, and hopefully about to be removed from decent political life.
He should be honest and set up party with Momentum loony leftists, as labour do not want him,nor do labour voters.Militant leftist may have joined last year,butthey are hardly lifelong labour folk,or the MP's.
I don't ever remember his name being mentioned once during the long negotiations that lead to the Good Friday Agreement.
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posted 26 seconds ago
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posted 8 minutes ago
comment by I want a Manè but can't grow my hair (U1863)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by rossobianchi - carry me back to the Stretford End (U17054)
posted 3 minutes ago
Corbyn has been very clear in condemning the atrocities committed against the British and the Irish people by both sides. To suggest otherwise is an outright lie.
On his contact with Sinn Fein on Radio Ulster last year:
“Quite simply, I maintained contact with Sinn Fein and believed that there had to be a political, not a military, solution to the situation in Northern Ireland."
“The British government developed that process, the Labour Party developed that process, and eventually we had agreement between the SDLP and Sinn Fein, which was the important step forward, and then the historic agreement between the generality of the Unionists and the generality of the republican movement.”
“We got the two ceasefires and eventually the Belfast agreement. Northern Ireland has taught the whole world an awful lot about resolving conflict by understanding the historical process of both communities."
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He's been called out on his backtracking. That's just him using political speak.
Why are you denying his past? It's out there for all to see, why are you calling us liars when the evidence shows otherwise?
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I am yet to see any evidence that suggests he ever thought the bombing was justifiable.
I won't deny he was in contact with former PIRA members and with Sinn Fein through the 1980s and 1990s. You can argue that was wrong; that's fair enough. People have different views on that.
But please don't suggest he was a supporter of violent terrorist activity.
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How would you interpret him conducting a minutes silence for dead PIRA bombers?
Or condemning the operation that killed three PIRA terrorists in Gibraltar?
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I honestly don't know enough about the context around either event, but wouldn't on the face of it read that either act suggested he was condoning violent action.
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I think you're blindly defending him. What would you say if a politician took part in a minutes silence for a dead Isis terrorist? This is no different.
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This, and by his own words, rosso knows less than he thinks on his pal, jezza.
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posted 1 minute ago
I don't ever remember his name being mentioned once during the long negotiations that lead to the Good Friday Agreement.
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He was never part of any peace process.
He supported those using violence who murdered several people I knew.
Mane
I would think it was a particularly stupid thing to do as a politician. But the two situations are not comparable.
Again, I am not arguing that his actions were sensible or always constructive. And I cannot comment with the authority of some, as I was too young at the time to appreciate fully what was going on in Ireland, but I am still yet to see any statement of his supporting or condoning violent activity.
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comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 40 seconds ago
JPM are convinced of imminent rate cut, but I can't see the currency taking much more of a beating.
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Ooops, can we put the leave vote down to a bit of crack, andjust forget it?
I voted leave, and admit I did not analyse who would cut our deal, as I do not fully trust boris and co to fight for t he working classes who backed brexit, along with other leavers.
I see that the eu is quite hostile towards the uk, so say fek em,get us outta brussels, and we all work hard to make this success....not for the rich to get richer here.
posted on 28/6/16
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 minute ago
does anyone think the pound will get back to normal anytime soon?
No, the country is in turmoil. When we know who the next PM is, the date we trigger Clause 50 and who's going to lead the opposition is when it might settle down.
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the £20 notes in my wallet are worthless right now
posted on 28/6/16
comment by Better Call Martial - Football taught by Matt Busby (U11781)
posted 55 seconds ago
The Associated Press @AP 51s52 seconds ago
BREAKING: Germany's Merkel says she sees no way to reverse British EU exit vote.
would love to chin this woman
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well that would be one way to begin the negotiations
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Maybe the England fans on their way home from France could go via Brussels and slap a few people.
No wait, they would probably get chased off by a small group of Latvian chimney sweeps.
posted on 28/6/16
Sounds like the Sun is getting behind Johnson.
posted on 28/6/16
Yea boris, I saw you take on the russian ultras......nice work, Rocky😠
posted on 28/6/16
It was 20,000 against 150.
I didn't like those odds.
posted on 28/6/16
comment by rossobianchi - carry me back to the Stretford End (U17054)
posted 3 minutes ago
Corbyn has been very clear in condemning the atrocities committed against the British and the Irish people by both sides. To suggest otherwise is an outright lie.
On his contact with Sinn Fein on Radio Ulster last year:
“Quite simply, I maintained contact with Sinn Fein and believed that there had to be a political, not a military, solution to the situation in Northern Ireland."
“The British government developed that process, the Labour Party developed that process, and eventually we had agreement between the SDLP and Sinn Fein, which was the important step forward, and then the historic agreement between the generality of the Unionists and the generality of the republican movement.”
“We got the two ceasefires and eventually the Belfast agreement. Northern Ireland has taught the whole world an awful lot about resolving conflict by understanding the historical process of both communities."
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He's been called out on his backtracking. That's just him using political speak.
Why are you denying his past? It's out there for all to see, why are you calling us liars when the evidence shows otherwise?
posted on 28/6/16
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 5 minutes ago
does anyone think the pound will get back to normal anytime soon?
No, the country is in turmoil. When we know who the next PM is, the date we trigger Clause 50 and who's going to lead the opposition is when it might settle down.
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I actually think the pound will stabalise as our politicians stall the EU exit.
However it will plummet once we do begin the exit and fail to make particularly good trade and movement agreements.
This will happen as the EU will make an example of the UK, if they don't then the EU would crumble - there is absolutely no way we'll get a better deal but we could get some of the same things - trade and free movement but without having any say in EU policy - and that will also destabilise confidence.
posted on 28/6/16
comment by Better Call Martial - Football taught by Matt Busby (U11781)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 minute ago
does anyone think the pound will get back to normal anytime soon?
No, the country is in turmoil. When we know who the next PM is, the date we trigger Clause 50 and who's going to lead the opposition is when it might settle down.
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the £20 notes in my wallet are worthless right now
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Get a grip, we're not Zimbabwe ffs. Bloody drama queen.
posted on 28/6/16
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 39 seconds ago
It was 20,000 against 150.
I didn't like those odds.
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It was a group of trained thugs attacking individual fans who they caught, or hitting guys putting upno defence, or running the family section at the end of the game.
At no point did i see the russians confront a similar sized bunch on the England side, then after two days, they were gone?????
posted on 28/6/16
comment by I want a Manè but can't grow my hair (U1863)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by rossobianchi - carry me back to the Stretford End (U17054)
posted 3 minutes ago
Corbyn has been very clear in condemning the atrocities committed against the British and the Irish people by both sides. To suggest otherwise is an outright lie.
On his contact with Sinn Fein on Radio Ulster last year:
“Quite simply, I maintained contact with Sinn Fein and believed that there had to be a political, not a military, solution to the situation in Northern Ireland."
“The British government developed that process, the Labour Party developed that process, and eventually we had agreement between the SDLP and Sinn Fein, which was the important step forward, and then the historic agreement between the generality of the Unionists and the generality of the republican movement.”
“We got the two ceasefires and eventually the Belfast agreement. Northern Ireland has taught the whole world an awful lot about resolving conflict by understanding the historical process of both communities."
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He's been called out on his backtracking. That's just him using political speak.
Why are you denying his past? It's out there for all to see, why are you calling us liars when the evidence shows otherwise?
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I am yet to see any evidence that suggests he ever thought the bombing was justifiable.
I won't deny he was in contact with former PIRA members and with Sinn Fein through the 1980s and 1990s. You can argue that was wrong; that's fair enough. People have different views on that.
But please don't suggest he was a supporter of violent terrorist activity.
posted on 28/6/16
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 7 minutes ago
Sounds like the Sun is getting behind Johnson.
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He's got to be the favourite on day one.
He's massively popular amongst the general public for a leading Tory, won a very surprising number of votes in London twice and spearheaded the Leave campaign.
http://www.comres.co.uk/boris-johnson-britains-most-popular-politician-2/
posted on 28/6/16
Rossoblanci
I ask again, didcorbyn meet any moderate unionist or loyalist, if he wanted peace thirty years ago?
Did he invite UDA or Uvf members to Wstminster?
When corbyn and mcdonnell got power inlabour, they were called out as pira fans, and like Blair, spun lies to waffle about peace.
Is corbyn talking to isis 7/7 bombers now, and if not why not, using your logic, and belief in jezza?
Will he invite britain first, Edl or the murderer Mair, w ho killed Jo Cox to wee chats, and prais their actions, as mcdonnell praised pira for using violence to get to the talks table, with leverage?
You know very little of this,but I lived it for thirty years.
posted on 28/6/16
He's massively popular amongst the general public for a leading Tory, won a very surprising number of votes in London twice and spearheaded the Leave campaign.
He's popular in London, less than 10% of the electorate.
I'm sure the times he's slagged off Liverpool, Newcastle, Birmingham, Wales etc on Have I got News For You will get a good airing prior to any General Election.
posted on 28/6/16
comment by rossobianchi - carry me back to the Stretford End (U17054)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by I want a Manè but can't grow my hair (U1863)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by rossobianchi - carry me back to the Stretford End (U17054)
posted 3 minutes ago
Corbyn has been very clear in condemning the atrocities committed against the British and the Irish people by both sides. To suggest otherwise is an outright lie.
On his contact with Sinn Fein on Radio Ulster last year:
“Quite simply, I maintained contact with Sinn Fein and believed that there had to be a political, not a military, solution to the situation in Northern Ireland."
“The British government developed that process, the Labour Party developed that process, and eventually we had agreement between the SDLP and Sinn Fein, which was the important step forward, and then the historic agreement between the generality of the Unionists and the generality of the republican movement.”
“We got the two ceasefires and eventually the Belfast agreement. Northern Ireland has taught the whole world an awful lot about resolving conflict by understanding the historical process of both communities."
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He's been called out on his backtracking. That's just him using political speak.
Why are you denying his past? It's out there for all to see, why are you calling us liars when the evidence shows otherwise?
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I am yet to see any evidence that suggests he ever thought the bombing was justifiable.
I won't deny he was in contact with former PIRA members and with Sinn Fein through the 1980s and 1990s. You can argue that was wrong; that's fair enough. People have different views on that.
But please don't suggest he was a supporter of violent terrorist activity.
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How would you interpret him conducting a minutes silence for dead PIRA bombers?
Or condemning the operation that killed three PIRA terrorists in Gibraltar?
posted on 28/6/16
Corbyn addressed rallies in north london where pira bands and supporters were gathered, for troops out demo's, after brighton,hyde park, enniskillen etc.
Sinn fein pira overlap n membership, and london bmber gerry kelly is part of the group corbyn backed, and again, no peace process was underway early eighties,but the far left supporter irish republcan militants.
Corbyn could have dealt with constitutional politicians,but opted for sectarian murder gangs, thus helping prolong violence.
posted on 28/6/16
comment by I want a Manè but can't grow my hair (U1863)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by rossobianchi - carry me back to the Stretford End (U17054)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by I want a Manè but can't grow my hair (U1863)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by rossobianchi - carry me back to the Stretford End (U17054)
posted 3 minutes ago
Corbyn has been very clear in condemning the atrocities committed against the British and the Irish people by both sides. To suggest otherwise is an outright lie.
On his contact with Sinn Fein on Radio Ulster last year:
“Quite simply, I maintained contact with Sinn Fein and believed that there had to be a political, not a military, solution to the situation in Northern Ireland."
“The British government developed that process, the Labour Party developed that process, and eventually we had agreement between the SDLP and Sinn Fein, which was the important step forward, and then the historic agreement between the generality of the Unionists and the generality of the republican movement.”
“We got the two ceasefires and eventually the Belfast agreement. Northern Ireland has taught the whole world an awful lot about resolving conflict by understanding the historical process of both communities."
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He's been called out on his backtracking. That's just him using political speak.
Why are you denying his past? It's out there for all to see, why are you calling us liars when the evidence shows otherwise?
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I am yet to see any evidence that suggests he ever thought the bombing was justifiable.
I won't deny he was in contact with former PIRA members and with Sinn Fein through the 1980s and 1990s. You can argue that was wrong; that's fair enough. People have different views on that.
But please don't suggest he was a supporter of violent terrorist activity.
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How would you interpret him conducting a minutes silence for dead PIRA bombers?
Or condemning the operation that killed three PIRA terrorists in Gibraltar?
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I honestly don't know enough about the context around either event, but wouldn't on the face of it read that either act suggested he was condoning violent action.
posted on 28/6/16
comment by rossobianchi - carry me back to the Stretford End (U17054)
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Corbyn has been very clear in condemning the atrocities committed against the British and the Irish people by both sides. To suggest otherwise is an outright lie.
On his contact with Sinn Fein on Radio Ulster last year:
“Quite simply, I maintained contact with Sinn Fein and believed that there had to be a political, not a military, solution to the situation in Northern Ireland."
“The British government developed that process, the Labour Party developed that process, and eventually we had agreement between the SDLP and Sinn Fein, which was the important step forward, and then the historic agreement between the generality of the Unionists and the generality of the republican movement.”
“We got the two ceasefires and eventually the Belfast agreement. Northern Ireland has taught the whole world an awful lot about resolving conflict by understanding the historical process of both communities."
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He's been called out on his backtracking. That's just him using political speak.
Why are you denying his past? It's out there for all to see, why are you calling us liars when the evidence shows otherwise?
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I am yet to see any evidence that suggests he ever thought the bombing was justifiable.
I won't deny he was in contact with former PIRA members and with Sinn Fein through the 1980s and 1990s. You can argue that was wrong; that's fair enough. People have different views on that.
But please don't suggest he was a supporter of violent terrorist activity.
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How would you interpret him conducting a minutes silence for dead PIRA bombers?
Or condemning the operation that killed three PIRA terrorists in Gibraltar?
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I honestly don't know enough about the context around either event, but wouldn't on the face of it read that either act suggested he was condoning violent action.
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I think you're blindly defending him. What would you say if a politician took part in a minutes silence for a dead Isis terrorist? This is no different.
posted on 28/6/16
This was about the first time I started to take an interest in politics.
The country was revulsed by PIRA atrocities at the time but I never remember him once condemming them, instead he was taking Nationalist figures on guided tours of the Houses of Parliament in an act of grossing wumming to use a modern phrase.
posted on 28/6/16
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
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Corbyn addressed rallies in north london where pira bands and supporters were gathered, for troops out demo's, after brighton,hyde park, enniskillen etc.
Sinn fein pira overlap n membership, and london bmber gerry kelly is part of the group corbyn backed, and again, no peace process was underway early eighties,but the far left supporter irish republcan militants.
Corbyn could have dealt with constitutional politicians,but opted for sectarian murder gangs, thus helping prolong violence.
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I'm not arguing in support of his actions. I honesty don't know how productive or counterproductive they were. He obviously worked then, as he does now, from a position of support for Irish Unification (which explains why he wouldn't have invited loyalists to Westminster in the 1980s and 1990s).
What I do believe is firstly, that he believed in and worked for a diplomatic solution, and secondly, that he has been consistent throughout his political career in condemning acts of violence.
posted on 28/6/16
Corbyn and mcdonnell are comrades of sinn fein pira, even now gerry adams praises him, and corbyn refuses to let labour set up n belfast, as he is a bigot,like gerry adams.
Mcdnnell and corbyn received gifts from sinn fein pira, such asa pic of bobby sands, at a south london pub meeting.
Corbyn is a suppoter of violent groups, such as hamas and pira,and is on record saying so..Horrid weasel,living in a tip, and hopefully about to be removed from decent political life.
He should be honest and set up party with Momentum loony leftists, as labour do not want him,nor do labour voters.Militant leftist may have joined last year,butthey are hardly lifelong labour folk,or the MP's.
posted on 28/6/16
I don't ever remember his name being mentioned once during the long negotiations that lead to the Good Friday Agreement.
posted on 28/6/16
comment by I want a Manè but can't grow my hair (U1863)
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comment by I want a Manè but can't grow my hair (U1863)
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comment by I want a Manè but can't grow my hair (U1863)
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comment by rossobianchi - carry me back to the Stretford End (U17054)
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Corbyn has been very clear in condemning the atrocities committed against the British and the Irish people by both sides. To suggest otherwise is an outright lie.
On his contact with Sinn Fein on Radio Ulster last year:
“Quite simply, I maintained contact with Sinn Fein and believed that there had to be a political, not a military, solution to the situation in Northern Ireland."
“The British government developed that process, the Labour Party developed that process, and eventually we had agreement between the SDLP and Sinn Fein, which was the important step forward, and then the historic agreement between the generality of the Unionists and the generality of the republican movement.”
“We got the two ceasefires and eventually the Belfast agreement. Northern Ireland has taught the whole world an awful lot about resolving conflict by understanding the historical process of both communities."
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He's been called out on his backtracking. That's just him using political speak.
Why are you denying his past? It's out there for all to see, why are you calling us liars when the evidence shows otherwise?
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I am yet to see any evidence that suggests he ever thought the bombing was justifiable.
I won't deny he was in contact with former PIRA members and with Sinn Fein through the 1980s and 1990s. You can argue that was wrong; that's fair enough. People have different views on that.
But please don't suggest he was a supporter of violent terrorist activity.
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How would you interpret him conducting a minutes silence for dead PIRA bombers?
Or condemning the operation that killed three PIRA terrorists in Gibraltar?
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I honestly don't know enough about the context around either event, but wouldn't on the face of it read that either act suggested he was condoning violent action.
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I think you're blindly defending him. What would you say if a politician took part in a minutes silence for a dead Isis terrorist? This is no different.
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This, and by his own words, rosso knows less than he thinks on his pal, jezza.
posted on 28/6/16
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
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I don't ever remember his name being mentioned once during the long negotiations that lead to the Good Friday Agreement.
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He was never part of any peace process.
He supported those using violence who murdered several people I knew.
posted on 28/6/16
Mane
I would think it was a particularly stupid thing to do as a politician. But the two situations are not comparable.
Again, I am not arguing that his actions were sensible or always constructive. And I cannot comment with the authority of some, as I was too young at the time to appreciate fully what was going on in Ireland, but I am still yet to see any statement of his supporting or condoning violent activity.
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