Also consider why Osborne is cutting corporation tax..
It's not because corporations are paying too much tax,rather it's to keep the UK an attractive option to base operations in if we are outside the EU.
This is indication enough that companies need an incentive to stop moving operations into mainland Europe in the event of Brexit.
So this will leave a bit of a hole in the chancellors revenue, 5% of corporation tax.
Who do you think will be targeted to plug this gap? It won't magically appear Ledley.
He was cutting corporation tax any way and he won't be the chancellor soon any way.
So mute point.
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 3 minutes ago
What about George's punishment budget?
How many people voted Remain because of his threats?
I can remember Sizzle saying he didnt care if Remain lied, he would say anything to win the referendum
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Are there not going to be tax hikes and further austerity in the next budget?
-------------------
This is something leave supporters don't understand, and I don't know why it's difficult for them to grasp.
Has Article 50 been invoked? No
When will it likely be invoked? Possibly upto 18 months time.
What has changed regarding trade ? Nothing
Is there a need to publish a reactionary budget ? No
When should the reactionary budget come into being? After article 50 is invoked at the earliest.
It's fairly simple.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Oh so when it suits you, the plan can wait until after Article 50?
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
I'm sort of on the Dennis Skinner camp on this one. I voted Remain because I believed that it would be for the best in the short term to avoid turbulence but I believe that the EU will eventually fail no matter what and the UK will be dragged in to the turmoil whether it is a member state or not.
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 2 minutes ago
RED
Don't give me your comeback.
You are a died in the wool socialist, spouting failed socialist politics from the 30s.
You above all should see that the EU does not have the interests of the working man at heart.
Ask the british fishermen what the EU did to them.
Grow up and stop putting silly arabic references in your username. If you like Palestine so much go there.
--------------
If you can't argue against that "comeback" I suggest you take a long hard look at your point of view.
That comeback is factual. Try again if you want.
The only one spouting policies from the 30's is whoever is defending that "breaking point" poster. I would recommend you don't try defending that one again.
The EU certainly does look after the working man. You only have to see the changes in the work place from 70's Britain to now.
The EU actually wanted to put heavier trade tariffs on Chinese steel. To protect the steel industry. The U.K. vetoed this!
And I could not gives a rat's ass about trade agreements
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 3 minutes ago
What about George's punishment budget?
How many people voted Remain because of his threats?
I can remember Sizzle saying he didnt care if Remain lied, he would say anything to win the referendum
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Are there not going to be tax hikes and further austerity in the next budget?
-------------------
This is something leave supporters don't understand, and I don't know why it's difficult for them to grasp.
Has Article 50 been invoked? No
When will it likely be invoked? Possibly upto 18 months time.
What has changed regarding trade ? Nothing
Is there a need to publish a reactionary budget ? No
When should the reactionary budget come into being? After article 50 is invoked at the earliest.
It's fairly simple.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Oh so when it suits you, the plan can wait until after Article 50?
-------------
Leave voters and their leaders don't have a plan, never have had.
If they haven't got a clue how to change the status quo, or even if they want to, why would a chancellor put a new budget into play.
It's fairly simple.. next time you ask where is the emergency budget, follow the guide below.
Has Article 50 been invoked? No
When will it likely be invoked? Possibly upto 18 months time.
What has changed regarding trade ? Nothing
Is there a need to publish a reactionary budget ? No
When should the reactionary budget come into being? After article 50 is invoked at the earliest
Ask the british fishermen what the EU did to them.
----
Go on then, tell me what the EU did to them..
-----
Grow up and stop putting silly arabic references in your username. If you like Palestine so much go there
----
Not sure why this is a point scoring exercise for you.
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 8 minutes ago
He was cutting corporation tax any way and he won't be the chancellor soon any way.
So mute point.
-----------------
Was he? You are privy to novembers budget already? Do post the document link.
"Mute point" how apt for your comments.
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 4 minutes ago
For the remainers on here. Do you think there will be no trade agreement? In what way do you think holiday movement and immigration movement will alter for the British public?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
My opinion is that we will have a trade agreement with the EU. Also think that we won't be able to negotiate out of freedom of movement, which I don't think is s bad thing. It'll mean we'll still be able to move to EU countries and gain free healthcare.
What does the Arabic say?
--------
Guna will tell you as he's deemed it a silly reference.
If anyone is interested in what EU legislation has done for fishing.
https://www.opendemocracy.net/can-europe-make-it/griffin-carpenter/eu-common-fisheries-policy-has-helped-not-harmed-uk-fisheries-0
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 3 minutes ago
What about George's punishment budget?
How many people voted Remain because of his threats?
I can remember Sizzle saying he didnt care if Remain lied, he would say anything to win the referendum
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Are there not going to be tax hikes and further austerity in the next budget?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I will have the lotto results if you are in the crystal ball game
George said he would be raising taxes.
He has in fact now said he will cut one
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yep, he's said he'll look after his mates in business. He's also said he'll raise taxes and impose further austerity as a result of the vote;
http://news.sky.com/story/george-osborne-warns-of-tax-increases-10327135
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I've said it before, he was always going to impose further austerity measures, it's just that now he has something else to blame it on. Don't forget that George told us the deficit would be sorted by the end of their first term.
The man's a serial liar, worse than the leave campaigners you all seem to love quoting.
It would have been a great result if Brexit had resulted in Gideon resigning.
comment by I want a Manè but can't grow my hair (U1863)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 3 minutes ago
What about George's punishment budget?
How many people voted Remain because of his threats?
I can remember Sizzle saying he didnt care if Remain lied, he would say anything to win the referendum
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Are there not going to be tax hikes and further austerity in the next budget?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I will have the lotto results if you are in the crystal ball game
George said he would be raising taxes.
He has in fact now said he will cut one
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yep, he's said he'll look after his mates in business. He's also said he'll raise taxes and impose further austerity as a result of the vote;
http://news.sky.com/story/george-osborne-warns-of-tax-increases-10327135
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I've said it before, he was always going to impose further austerity measures, it's just that now he has something else to blame it on. Don't forget that George told us the deficit would be sorted by the end of their first term.
The man's a serial liar, worse than the leave campaigners you all seem to love quoting.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You know this for sure?
Point scoring from the man who started the name calling.
Own up Red are you a socialist hamas lover like Corbyn.
If not I take it all back.
The rate of corporation tax was projected in the last budget to be reduced over the length of the Parliamnet all that he has said is it will be reduced to less in the same time scale.
Until there is a new government tax and policy for the rest of the parliament is on hold. The next chancellor will outline their policy in the November statement so until then we wait and see.
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by I want a Manè but can't grow my hair (U1863)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 3 minutes ago
What about George's punishment budget?
How many people voted Remain because of his threats?
I can remember Sizzle saying he didnt care if Remain lied, he would say anything to win the referendum
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Are there not going to be tax hikes and further austerity in the next budget?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I will have the lotto results if you are in the crystal ball game
George said he would be raising taxes.
He has in fact now said he will cut one
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yep, he's said he'll look after his mates in business. He's also said he'll raise taxes and impose further austerity as a result of the vote;
http://news.sky.com/story/george-osborne-warns-of-tax-increases-10327135
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I've said it before, he was always going to impose further austerity measures, it's just that now he has something else to blame it on. Don't forget that George told us the deficit would be sorted by the end of their first term.
The man's a serial liar, worse than the leave campaigners you all seem to love quoting.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You know this for sure?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course not, just like you lot don't know that we're all doomed. But only a gullible fool would believe anything he says, based on past evidence.
Mane
What we do know is that taxes, for working people like me & you, are going to rise and money for essential services are going to be cut.
I'm not a Tory voter, after what they've done to Liverpool. Yes I don't trust Osbourne either. However I can't see why he'd go public with the announcement of tax hikes etc and then not implement them.
I never said we're all doomed as a result of leaving. However the things mentioned before the vote about the economy are happening. The things the leave camp campaigned on aren't happening, or look extremely unlikely to happen.
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 1 hour ago
Point scoring from the man who started the name calling.
Own up Red are you a socialist hamas lover like Corbyn.
If not I take it all back.
-------------------------------
All of his points have been well and truly taken apart, £350m , you are left with this particular debater going on this tangent. He cannot master his own convictions, let alone debating them.
Lets wish him well on his journey to master debating...
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted about an hour ago
The rate of corporation tax was projected in the last budget to be reduced over the length of the Parliamnet all that he has said is it will be reduced to less in the same time scale.
-------------------------------------
It was projected to be cut to 18% and later 17% by 2020.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/corporation-tax-to-17-in-2020/corporation-tax-to-17-in-2020
Pushing this to 15% is a very large undertaking indeed.
Question is - does the chancellor cut services, or increase other taxes?
Tax cuts ain't free.
... and here's the thing, if, in case of Brexit :
Chancellor cuts corporation tax to incentivise businesses to keep operations centred in the UK
Chancellor reduces public spending because of the reduced revenue received.
Public get angry because Brexit was supposed to give British people better services - who are they going to blame?
The things mentioned before the vote about the economy are happening. The things the leave camp campaigned on aren't happening, or look extremely unlikely to happen.
Of course the British parliament could take a sovereign vote and final decision to not invoke article 50.
Would the leave voters be happy with the British Government enacting their sovereign right in this case?
Or would they rather the EU subjected Britain to comply with the referendum outcome?
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posted on 10/7/16
Also consider why Osborne is cutting corporation tax..
It's not because corporations are paying too much tax,rather it's to keep the UK an attractive option to base operations in if we are outside the EU.
This is indication enough that companies need an incentive to stop moving operations into mainland Europe in the event of Brexit.
So this will leave a bit of a hole in the chancellors revenue, 5% of corporation tax.
Who do you think will be targeted to plug this gap? It won't magically appear Ledley.
posted on 10/7/16
He was cutting corporation tax any way and he won't be the chancellor soon any way.
So mute point.
posted on 10/7/16
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 3 minutes ago
What about George's punishment budget?
How many people voted Remain because of his threats?
I can remember Sizzle saying he didnt care if Remain lied, he would say anything to win the referendum
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Are there not going to be tax hikes and further austerity in the next budget?
-------------------
This is something leave supporters don't understand, and I don't know why it's difficult for them to grasp.
Has Article 50 been invoked? No
When will it likely be invoked? Possibly upto 18 months time.
What has changed regarding trade ? Nothing
Is there a need to publish a reactionary budget ? No
When should the reactionary budget come into being? After article 50 is invoked at the earliest.
It's fairly simple.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Oh so when it suits you, the plan can wait until after Article 50?
posted on 10/7/16
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 10/7/16
I'm sort of on the Dennis Skinner camp on this one. I voted Remain because I believed that it would be for the best in the short term to avoid turbulence but I believe that the EU will eventually fail no matter what and the UK will be dragged in to the turmoil whether it is a member state or not.
posted on 10/7/16
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 2 minutes ago
RED
Don't give me your comeback.
You are a died in the wool socialist, spouting failed socialist politics from the 30s.
You above all should see that the EU does not have the interests of the working man at heart.
Ask the british fishermen what the EU did to them.
Grow up and stop putting silly arabic references in your username. If you like Palestine so much go there.
--------------
If you can't argue against that "comeback" I suggest you take a long hard look at your point of view.
That comeback is factual. Try again if you want.
The only one spouting policies from the 30's is whoever is defending that "breaking point" poster. I would recommend you don't try defending that one again.
The EU certainly does look after the working man. You only have to see the changes in the work place from 70's Britain to now.
The EU actually wanted to put heavier trade tariffs on Chinese steel. To protect the steel industry. The U.K. vetoed this!
posted on 10/7/16
And I could not gives a rat's ass about trade agreements
posted on 10/7/16
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 3 minutes ago
What about George's punishment budget?
How many people voted Remain because of his threats?
I can remember Sizzle saying he didnt care if Remain lied, he would say anything to win the referendum
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Are there not going to be tax hikes and further austerity in the next budget?
-------------------
This is something leave supporters don't understand, and I don't know why it's difficult for them to grasp.
Has Article 50 been invoked? No
When will it likely be invoked? Possibly upto 18 months time.
What has changed regarding trade ? Nothing
Is there a need to publish a reactionary budget ? No
When should the reactionary budget come into being? After article 50 is invoked at the earliest.
It's fairly simple.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Oh so when it suits you, the plan can wait until after Article 50?
-------------
Leave voters and their leaders don't have a plan, never have had.
If they haven't got a clue how to change the status quo, or even if they want to, why would a chancellor put a new budget into play.
It's fairly simple.. next time you ask where is the emergency budget, follow the guide below.
Has Article 50 been invoked? No
When will it likely be invoked? Possibly upto 18 months time.
What has changed regarding trade ? Nothing
Is there a need to publish a reactionary budget ? No
When should the reactionary budget come into being? After article 50 is invoked at the earliest
posted on 10/7/16
Ask the british fishermen what the EU did to them.
----
Go on then, tell me what the EU did to them..
-----
Grow up and stop putting silly arabic references in your username. If you like Palestine so much go there
----
Not sure why this is a point scoring exercise for you.
posted on 10/7/16
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 10/7/16
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 8 minutes ago
He was cutting corporation tax any way and he won't be the chancellor soon any way.
So mute point.
-----------------
Was he? You are privy to novembers budget already? Do post the document link.
"Mute point" how apt for your comments.
posted on 10/7/16
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 4 minutes ago
For the remainers on here. Do you think there will be no trade agreement? In what way do you think holiday movement and immigration movement will alter for the British public?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
My opinion is that we will have a trade agreement with the EU. Also think that we won't be able to negotiate out of freedom of movement, which I don't think is s bad thing. It'll mean we'll still be able to move to EU countries and gain free healthcare.
posted on 10/7/16
What does the Arabic say?
--------
Guna will tell you as he's deemed it a silly reference.
posted on 10/7/16
If anyone is interested in what EU legislation has done for fishing.
https://www.opendemocracy.net/can-europe-make-it/griffin-carpenter/eu-common-fisheries-policy-has-helped-not-harmed-uk-fisheries-0
posted on 10/7/16
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 3 minutes ago
What about George's punishment budget?
How many people voted Remain because of his threats?
I can remember Sizzle saying he didnt care if Remain lied, he would say anything to win the referendum
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Are there not going to be tax hikes and further austerity in the next budget?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I will have the lotto results if you are in the crystal ball game
George said he would be raising taxes.
He has in fact now said he will cut one
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yep, he's said he'll look after his mates in business. He's also said he'll raise taxes and impose further austerity as a result of the vote;
http://news.sky.com/story/george-osborne-warns-of-tax-increases-10327135
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I've said it before, he was always going to impose further austerity measures, it's just that now he has something else to blame it on. Don't forget that George told us the deficit would be sorted by the end of their first term.
The man's a serial liar, worse than the leave campaigners you all seem to love quoting.
posted on 10/7/16
It would have been a great result if Brexit had resulted in Gideon resigning.
posted on 10/7/16
comment by I want a Manè but can't grow my hair (U1863)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 3 minutes ago
What about George's punishment budget?
How many people voted Remain because of his threats?
I can remember Sizzle saying he didnt care if Remain lied, he would say anything to win the referendum
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Are there not going to be tax hikes and further austerity in the next budget?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I will have the lotto results if you are in the crystal ball game
George said he would be raising taxes.
He has in fact now said he will cut one
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yep, he's said he'll look after his mates in business. He's also said he'll raise taxes and impose further austerity as a result of the vote;
http://news.sky.com/story/george-osborne-warns-of-tax-increases-10327135
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I've said it before, he was always going to impose further austerity measures, it's just that now he has something else to blame it on. Don't forget that George told us the deficit would be sorted by the end of their first term.
The man's a serial liar, worse than the leave campaigners you all seem to love quoting.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You know this for sure?
posted on 10/7/16
Point scoring from the man who started the name calling.
Own up Red are you a socialist hamas lover like Corbyn.
If not I take it all back.
posted on 10/7/16
The rate of corporation tax was projected in the last budget to be reduced over the length of the Parliamnet all that he has said is it will be reduced to less in the same time scale.
Until there is a new government tax and policy for the rest of the parliament is on hold. The next chancellor will outline their policy in the November statement so until then we wait and see.
posted on 10/7/16
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by I want a Manè but can't grow my hair (U1863)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 3 minutes ago
What about George's punishment budget?
How many people voted Remain because of his threats?
I can remember Sizzle saying he didnt care if Remain lied, he would say anything to win the referendum
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Are there not going to be tax hikes and further austerity in the next budget?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I will have the lotto results if you are in the crystal ball game
George said he would be raising taxes.
He has in fact now said he will cut one
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yep, he's said he'll look after his mates in business. He's also said he'll raise taxes and impose further austerity as a result of the vote;
http://news.sky.com/story/george-osborne-warns-of-tax-increases-10327135
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I've said it before, he was always going to impose further austerity measures, it's just that now he has something else to blame it on. Don't forget that George told us the deficit would be sorted by the end of their first term.
The man's a serial liar, worse than the leave campaigners you all seem to love quoting.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You know this for sure?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course not, just like you lot don't know that we're all doomed. But only a gullible fool would believe anything he says, based on past evidence.
posted on 10/7/16
Mane
What we do know is that taxes, for working people like me & you, are going to rise and money for essential services are going to be cut.
I'm not a Tory voter, after what they've done to Liverpool. Yes I don't trust Osbourne either. However I can't see why he'd go public with the announcement of tax hikes etc and then not implement them.
I never said we're all doomed as a result of leaving. However the things mentioned before the vote about the economy are happening. The things the leave camp campaigned on aren't happening, or look extremely unlikely to happen.
posted on 10/7/16
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 1 hour ago
Point scoring from the man who started the name calling.
Own up Red are you a socialist hamas lover like Corbyn.
If not I take it all back.
-------------------------------
All of his points have been well and truly taken apart, £350m , you are left with this particular debater going on this tangent. He cannot master his own convictions, let alone debating them.
Lets wish him well on his journey to master debating...
posted on 10/7/16
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted about an hour ago
The rate of corporation tax was projected in the last budget to be reduced over the length of the Parliamnet all that he has said is it will be reduced to less in the same time scale.
-------------------------------------
It was projected to be cut to 18% and later 17% by 2020.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/corporation-tax-to-17-in-2020/corporation-tax-to-17-in-2020
Pushing this to 15% is a very large undertaking indeed.
Question is - does the chancellor cut services, or increase other taxes?
Tax cuts ain't free.
posted on 10/7/16
... and here's the thing, if, in case of Brexit :
Chancellor cuts corporation tax to incentivise businesses to keep operations centred in the UK
Chancellor reduces public spending because of the reduced revenue received.
Public get angry because Brexit was supposed to give British people better services - who are they going to blame?
posted on 10/7/16
The things mentioned before the vote about the economy are happening. The things the leave camp campaigned on aren't happening, or look extremely unlikely to happen.
Of course the British parliament could take a sovereign vote and final decision to not invoke article 50.
Would the leave voters be happy with the British Government enacting their sovereign right in this case?
Or would they rather the EU subjected Britain to comply with the referendum outcome?
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332 | 333 | 334 | 335 | 336