comment by Scouse (U9675)
posted 11 hours, 58 minutes ago
comment by 🏁 AnglianRam 🏁 (U17428)
posted 26 minutes ago
Hannibal
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For biting?
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For an early Chianti and fava beans
Heb, Conor Sammon was absolutely hopeless. He couldn't hit the target at all, if only they'd moved the goals slightly to one side. However I will say he would be an improvement on what we have now.
I liked Keogh and was sorry for what happened to him...I blame TL. It was the loss of the great Chris Martin that has brought the club so low and the poor man is now under Nigel Loony at Bristols. Maybe we can get him on loan next season.
Bristol City were quite high in the league when Loony was appointed, now they are near the bottom and they have given him a long contract. No wonder clubs go bust.
The Pearson contract is baffling. Brizzle lost more games than we did!
comment by FinlandRam (U3621)
posted about 3 hours ago
The Pearson contract is baffling. Brizzle lost more games than we did!
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Sam Rush is his agent
The League Arbitration Panel (‘LAP&rsquo has granted a limited aspect of the EFL’s appeal against the Decision of the Disciplinary Commission (‘DC&rsquo in August 2020 in relation the EFL’s Second Charge against the Club relating to the Club’s amortisation policy. No appeal was brought against the DC’s dismissal of the First Charge relating to the stadium sale.
The LAP found for the EFL on the sole ground that the Commission made an error in law “in rejecting the evidence of Professor Pope that it was impermissible in principle under the cost model for the Club to take into account possible resale values of players” in relation to the accounts for 2015/16, 2016/17 and 2017/18 seasons. The LAP rejected the EFL’s other two grounds of appeal.
The DC heard the original case over a week of evidence in 2020 included two eminent QCs and an expert accountant appointed by the EFL. It was found by the LAP to have produced an “enormously impressive and diligent” Decision. It had found that the Club had acted honestly, and its accounting policy substantively conformed with accounting standards. The LAP, which consisted of three very eminent lawyers, but no expert accountant, found that on one ground this was not so.
At the appeal the EFL accepted the DC’s factual findings at paragraph 54 of its Decision: the Club’s witnesses were found to have given truthful evidence about the amortisation policy, and their judgments were made in light of carefully researched and objectively justifiable information. The LAP did not interfere with that important finding.
The reason the EFL’s appeal took so long to determine was because of three separate preliminary issues raised by Middlesbrough FC and then the EFL, each of which required hearings and decisions by the LAP, and each of which was dismissed with the Club being successful. Had Middlesbrough and the EFL not brought those preliminary issues the appeal could have been determined in 2020.
The Club accepts but is disappointed with the LAP’s conclusion on the one ground that the EFL succeeded on. The Club and the EFL have agreed that the matter shall now be remitted back to the original DC who can determine what, if any, consequences arise from the partial success of the EFL’s Amortisation charge, and the Club is therefore currently unable to comment further.
Pick the bones out of that
The next step will be to look at our accounts, see how many seasons we would have fallen foul of FFP without that policy in place, and apply the relevant punishment for each of those cases cumulatively.
They'll want to be very sure about this, as to avoid any legal action, hence why no timeframe is being given.
That's what I understand.
Think there was a bit of 'plea bargaining' going on.
EFL:- "Derby accept the lesser charge, don't kick off about the decision, don't embarrass us by appealing and it'll just be a fine".
Derby:- "we'll appeal"
EFL:- "you can't appeal - not allowed"
Derby:- "so, that's it - we have to accept the decision - reluctantly - pay the fine and keep our gobs shut?"
EFL:- "yes"
May 2026:
Punishment still unknown due to Steve Gibson getting involved for the 17th time
We are skint but have to pay Keogh £2.3M and the EFL an unknown amount plus solicitors fees for both cases. By the time this is over we could have bought Harry Kane for less.
And Erik Alonso's Twitter account has disappeared
Not too worried if the Alonso ‘deal’ falls through, doesn’t fill me with confidence anyway. On the other stuff, can’t we just retire quietly to the Northern Premier League for a few years until all the fuss dies. Mel really has made a spectacular ar5e of everything. At least Cellino sold Leeds to someone competent.
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posted on 11/5/21
comment by Scouse (U9675)
posted 11 hours, 58 minutes ago
comment by 🏁 AnglianRam 🏁 (U17428)
posted 26 minutes ago
Hannibal
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For biting?
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For an early Chianti and fava beans
posted on 11/5/21
Heb, Conor Sammon was absolutely hopeless. He couldn't hit the target at all, if only they'd moved the goals slightly to one side. However I will say he would be an improvement on what we have now.
I liked Keogh and was sorry for what happened to him...I blame TL. It was the loss of the great Chris Martin that has brought the club so low and the poor man is now under Nigel Loony at Bristols. Maybe we can get him on loan next season.
Bristol City were quite high in the league when Loony was appointed, now they are near the bottom and they have given him a long contract. No wonder clubs go bust.
posted on 11/5/21
The Pearson contract is baffling. Brizzle lost more games than we did!
posted on 11/5/21
comment by FinlandRam (U3621)
posted about 3 hours ago
The Pearson contract is baffling. Brizzle lost more games than we did!
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Sam Rush is his agent
posted on 11/5/21
The League Arbitration Panel (‘LAP&rsquo has granted a limited aspect of the EFL’s appeal against the Decision of the Disciplinary Commission (‘DC&rsquo in August 2020 in relation the EFL’s Second Charge against the Club relating to the Club’s amortisation policy. No appeal was brought against the DC’s dismissal of the First Charge relating to the stadium sale.
The LAP found for the EFL on the sole ground that the Commission made an error in law “in rejecting the evidence of Professor Pope that it was impermissible in principle under the cost model for the Club to take into account possible resale values of players” in relation to the accounts for 2015/16, 2016/17 and 2017/18 seasons. The LAP rejected the EFL’s other two grounds of appeal.
The DC heard the original case over a week of evidence in 2020 included two eminent QCs and an expert accountant appointed by the EFL. It was found by the LAP to have produced an “enormously impressive and diligent” Decision. It had found that the Club had acted honestly, and its accounting policy substantively conformed with accounting standards. The LAP, which consisted of three very eminent lawyers, but no expert accountant, found that on one ground this was not so.
At the appeal the EFL accepted the DC’s factual findings at paragraph 54 of its Decision: the Club’s witnesses were found to have given truthful evidence about the amortisation policy, and their judgments were made in light of carefully researched and objectively justifiable information. The LAP did not interfere with that important finding.
The reason the EFL’s appeal took so long to determine was because of three separate preliminary issues raised by Middlesbrough FC and then the EFL, each of which required hearings and decisions by the LAP, and each of which was dismissed with the Club being successful. Had Middlesbrough and the EFL not brought those preliminary issues the appeal could have been determined in 2020.
The Club accepts but is disappointed with the LAP’s conclusion on the one ground that the EFL succeeded on. The Club and the EFL have agreed that the matter shall now be remitted back to the original DC who can determine what, if any, consequences arise from the partial success of the EFL’s Amortisation charge, and the Club is therefore currently unable to comment further.
posted on 11/5/21
Pick the bones out of that
posted on 11/5/21
Fine coming. Size TBD.
posted on 11/5/21
The next step will be to look at our accounts, see how many seasons we would have fallen foul of FFP without that policy in place, and apply the relevant punishment for each of those cases cumulatively.
They'll want to be very sure about this, as to avoid any legal action, hence why no timeframe is being given.
posted on 11/5/21
That's what I understand.
Think there was a bit of 'plea bargaining' going on.
EFL:- "Derby accept the lesser charge, don't kick off about the decision, don't embarrass us by appealing and it'll just be a fine".
Derby:- "we'll appeal"
EFL:- "you can't appeal - not allowed"
Derby:- "so, that's it - we have to accept the decision - reluctantly - pay the fine and keep our gobs shut?"
EFL:- "yes"
posted on 11/5/21
May 2026:
Punishment still unknown due to Steve Gibson getting involved for the 17th time
posted on 11/5/21
We are skint but have to pay Keogh £2.3M and the EFL an unknown amount plus solicitors fees for both cases. By the time this is over we could have bought Harry Kane for less.
posted on 11/5/21
And Erik Alonso's Twitter account has disappeared
posted on 11/5/21
Not too worried if the Alonso ‘deal’ falls through, doesn’t fill me with confidence anyway. On the other stuff, can’t we just retire quietly to the Northern Premier League for a few years until all the fuss dies. Mel really has made a spectacular ar5e of everything. At least Cellino sold Leeds to someone competent.
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