comment by Don (U22703)
posted 16 minutes ago
So you think they have to charge before bail ends?
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Yes. Although I expect that they will be able to re-arrest if further evidence comes to light at a later date.
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 10 minutes ago
And in those complex instances, what happens differently ?
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I don't know that it does. I just thought that there might perhaps be some cases where they have evidence for some counts, but the investigation for other counts is taking longer than usual to get together, so they opt to split the offences into 2 separate cases rather than wait. I was just pondering, but not sure whether it is the case. But standard procedure is to investigate each and every count before deciding on which counts to bring charges for.
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 16 minutes ago
So you think they have to charge before bail ends?
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Yes. Although I expect that they will be able to re-arrest if further evidence comes to light at a later date.
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So charge on some of the alleged 4 offences, and maybe more of the 4 down the line ?
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 10 minutes ago
And in those complex instances, what happens differently ?
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I don't know that it does. I just thought that there might perhaps be some cases where they have evidence for some counts, but the investigation for other counts is taking longer than usual to get together, so they opt to split the offences into 2 separate cases rather than wait. I was just pondering, but not sure whether it is the case. But standard procedure is to investigate each and every count before deciding on which counts to bring charges for.
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So they might charge on some of the 4 alleged offences, and the others down the line then.
Glad we got there in the end
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 10 minutes ago
And in those complex instances, what happens differently ?
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I don't know that it does. I just thought that there might perhaps be some cases where they have evidence for some counts, but the investigation for other counts is taking longer than usual to get together, so they opt to split the offences into 2 separate cases rather than wait. I was just pondering, but not sure whether it is the case. But standard procedure is to investigate each and every count before deciding on which counts to bring charges for.
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So they might charge on some of the 4 alleged offences, and the others down the line then.
Glad we got there in the end
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I don't know that for a fact, as I said, I am just pondering if that might be the case where cases are very complex. I was thinking more financial cases to be honest, where the amounts of evidence involved can be ridiculous. Or if there are different victims. But I can't actually think of any cases where this has happened, so I am probably wrong on that.
Either way, in Mason's case, where it appears that all counts relate to Harriet, I can't see any reason why that would be the case and my brother said that they will wait until they have investigated all counts before deciding on charges.
I think we both know I’m right in that they will charge re each offence once they have grounds to.
It’s unlikely any of the charges would go to trial before they manage to finish their investigations anyway, meaning any subsequent charges could be included.
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 13 minutes ago
I think we both know I’m right in that they will charge re each offence once they have grounds to.
It’s unlikely any of the charges would go to trial before they manage to finish their investigations anyway, meaning any subsequent charges could be included.
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You're crazy mate. We have seen with Mendy that he was charged at the same time for alleged offences against different women at different times. Why would it be any different with Greenwood, when as far as we know all of his counts relate to one person? That would make zero sense. Probably best at this point to admit that you know absolutely nothing about the justice system and are just guessing.
"The police must charge when they have grounds, irrespective of other charges being investigated."
Seeing as you are so confident in your opinion, you will be able to provide me with proof to back up your statement above. Some kind of protocol from the CPS would do it. I mean, I have provided you with a link that specifically says that they investigate each and every count before bringing charges, but feel free to produce something that contradicts this.
I mean, what are you actually basing your opinion on?
You have just admitted yourself that you think they might charge whilst investigating other, linked offences you bloody fruitloop.
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 11 seconds ago
You have just admitted yourself that you think they might charge whilst investigating other, linked offences you bloody fruitloop.
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I haven't said that I think there is. I have pondered at to whether there might be. Either way, your statement that the police must charge when they have grounds, irrespective of other charges being investigated, is incorrect.
Thus the fact that Mason hasn't yet been charged doesn't tell us anything. These kinds of cases always drag on and all we know is that the investigation is ongoing.
I notice that you didn't provide any evidence to back up your statement or info as to what you are basing your opinion. Just a wild guess was it?
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 11 seconds ago
You have just admitted yourself that you think they might charge whilst investigating other, linked offences you bloody fruitloop.
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I haven't said that I think there is. I have pondered at to whether there might be. Either way, your statement that the police must charge when they have grounds, irrespective of other charges being investigated, is incorrect.
Thus the fact that Mason hasn't yet been charged doesn't tell us anything. These kinds of cases always drag on and all we know is that the investigation is ongoing.
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Thought / pondered. Quit wriggling.
They dont hold off indefinitely, they will charge eventually ofnthey have frojnds, irrespective of other, ongoing, investigations.
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 11 seconds ago
You have just admitted yourself that you think they might charge whilst investigating other, linked offences you bloody fruitloop.
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I haven't said that I think there is. I have pondered at to whether there might be. Either way, your statement that the police must charge when they have grounds, irrespective of other charges being investigated, is incorrect.
Thus the fact that Mason hasn't yet been charged doesn't tell us anything. These kinds of cases always drag on and all we know is that the investigation is ongoing.
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Thought / pondered. Quit wriggling.
They dont hold off indefinitely, they will charge eventually ofnthey have frojnds, irrespective of other, ongoing, investigations.
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No one has said that they hold off indefinitely. No idea why you keep repeating that. They will hold off until they have investigated each and every count. At this this point, the investigation hasn't really been going on that long and they have another 2 months before they even have to worry about applying for an extension.
But please, tell me how you know more than the CPS and a serving police office on this matter. I'm truly intrigued, you absolute weapon.
If not indefinitely, how long before they will charge,.if at all?
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 48 minutes ago
If not indefinitely, how long before they will charge,.if at all?
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I'm not on the investigation, I've no idea how long it will take.
This really will depend upon how the laws are applied. I suspect he will be charged.
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posted on 5/4/22
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 16 minutes ago
So you think they have to charge before bail ends?
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Yes. Although I expect that they will be able to re-arrest if further evidence comes to light at a later date.
posted on 5/4/22
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 10 minutes ago
And in those complex instances, what happens differently ?
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I don't know that it does. I just thought that there might perhaps be some cases where they have evidence for some counts, but the investigation for other counts is taking longer than usual to get together, so they opt to split the offences into 2 separate cases rather than wait. I was just pondering, but not sure whether it is the case. But standard procedure is to investigate each and every count before deciding on which counts to bring charges for.
posted on 5/4/22
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 16 minutes ago
So you think they have to charge before bail ends?
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Yes. Although I expect that they will be able to re-arrest if further evidence comes to light at a later date.
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So charge on some of the alleged 4 offences, and maybe more of the 4 down the line ?
posted on 5/4/22
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 10 minutes ago
And in those complex instances, what happens differently ?
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I don't know that it does. I just thought that there might perhaps be some cases where they have evidence for some counts, but the investigation for other counts is taking longer than usual to get together, so they opt to split the offences into 2 separate cases rather than wait. I was just pondering, but not sure whether it is the case. But standard procedure is to investigate each and every count before deciding on which counts to bring charges for.
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So they might charge on some of the 4 alleged offences, and the others down the line then.
Glad we got there in the end
posted on 5/4/22
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 10 minutes ago
And in those complex instances, what happens differently ?
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I don't know that it does. I just thought that there might perhaps be some cases where they have evidence for some counts, but the investigation for other counts is taking longer than usual to get together, so they opt to split the offences into 2 separate cases rather than wait. I was just pondering, but not sure whether it is the case. But standard procedure is to investigate each and every count before deciding on which counts to bring charges for.
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So they might charge on some of the 4 alleged offences, and the others down the line then.
Glad we got there in the end
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I don't know that for a fact, as I said, I am just pondering if that might be the case where cases are very complex. I was thinking more financial cases to be honest, where the amounts of evidence involved can be ridiculous. Or if there are different victims. But I can't actually think of any cases where this has happened, so I am probably wrong on that.
Either way, in Mason's case, where it appears that all counts relate to Harriet, I can't see any reason why that would be the case and my brother said that they will wait until they have investigated all counts before deciding on charges.
posted on 5/4/22
I think we both know I’m right in that they will charge re each offence once they have grounds to.
It’s unlikely any of the charges would go to trial before they manage to finish their investigations anyway, meaning any subsequent charges could be included.
posted on 5/4/22
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 13 minutes ago
I think we both know I’m right in that they will charge re each offence once they have grounds to.
It’s unlikely any of the charges would go to trial before they manage to finish their investigations anyway, meaning any subsequent charges could be included.
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You're crazy mate. We have seen with Mendy that he was charged at the same time for alleged offences against different women at different times. Why would it be any different with Greenwood, when as far as we know all of his counts relate to one person? That would make zero sense. Probably best at this point to admit that you know absolutely nothing about the justice system and are just guessing.
"The police must charge when they have grounds, irrespective of other charges being investigated."
Seeing as you are so confident in your opinion, you will be able to provide me with proof to back up your statement above. Some kind of protocol from the CPS would do it. I mean, I have provided you with a link that specifically says that they investigate each and every count before bringing charges, but feel free to produce something that contradicts this.
I mean, what are you actually basing your opinion on?
posted on 5/4/22
You have just admitted yourself that you think they might charge whilst investigating other, linked offences you bloody fruitloop.
posted on 5/4/22
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 11 seconds ago
You have just admitted yourself that you think they might charge whilst investigating other, linked offences you bloody fruitloop.
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I haven't said that I think there is. I have pondered at to whether there might be. Either way, your statement that the police must charge when they have grounds, irrespective of other charges being investigated, is incorrect.
Thus the fact that Mason hasn't yet been charged doesn't tell us anything. These kinds of cases always drag on and all we know is that the investigation is ongoing.
posted on 5/4/22
I notice that you didn't provide any evidence to back up your statement or info as to what you are basing your opinion. Just a wild guess was it?
posted on 5/4/22
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 11 seconds ago
You have just admitted yourself that you think they might charge whilst investigating other, linked offences you bloody fruitloop.
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I haven't said that I think there is. I have pondered at to whether there might be. Either way, your statement that the police must charge when they have grounds, irrespective of other charges being investigated, is incorrect.
Thus the fact that Mason hasn't yet been charged doesn't tell us anything. These kinds of cases always drag on and all we know is that the investigation is ongoing.
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Thought / pondered. Quit wriggling.
They dont hold off indefinitely, they will charge eventually ofnthey have frojnds, irrespective of other, ongoing, investigations.
posted on 5/4/22
If they have grounds
posted on 5/4/22
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 11 seconds ago
You have just admitted yourself that you think they might charge whilst investigating other, linked offences you bloody fruitloop.
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I haven't said that I think there is. I have pondered at to whether there might be. Either way, your statement that the police must charge when they have grounds, irrespective of other charges being investigated, is incorrect.
Thus the fact that Mason hasn't yet been charged doesn't tell us anything. These kinds of cases always drag on and all we know is that the investigation is ongoing.
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Thought / pondered. Quit wriggling.
They dont hold off indefinitely, they will charge eventually ofnthey have frojnds, irrespective of other, ongoing, investigations.
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No one has said that they hold off indefinitely. No idea why you keep repeating that. They will hold off until they have investigated each and every count. At this this point, the investigation hasn't really been going on that long and they have another 2 months before they even have to worry about applying for an extension.
But please, tell me how you know more than the CPS and a serving police office on this matter. I'm truly intrigued, you absolute weapon.
posted on 5/4/22
If not indefinitely, how long before they will charge,.if at all?
posted on 5/4/22
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 48 minutes ago
If not indefinitely, how long before they will charge,.if at all?
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I'm not on the investigation, I've no idea how long it will take.
posted on 5/4/22
This really will depend upon how the laws are applied. I suspect he will be charged.
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