comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - No Halloween this year, the ho... (U6374)
posted 28 minutes ago
Net migration in 2024 was 415,000.

However, deaths outstripped births by 16,500 and this is an increasing trend due to a record low birth rate.
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and we have +1m immigrants on benefits.

Would you move to another country and take from their system and not expect to be questioned.
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I honestly don’t care, because legal immigration is repeatedly proven to be financially beneficial and a net positive, and illegal immigrants can’t claim,

You’re being conned.

comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - Our representative on the pitch (U21434)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RB&W - Our representative on the pitch (U21434)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - No Halloween this year, the horror Is Rëal (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Oops here is the link:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZGt9bYkVvE
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Yep. Seen this. What could the regular racist raise the flag suspects on here say about this without pizzing on this guys chips.
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It's a great call but who is being racist on here? Cause I haven't seen it. Maybe you should take a leaf out of that caller's book and learn to not judge people so quickly.

Also we should not pretend that the rate of illegal immigration isn't a problem or a concern either, even if we can accept the good it has brought to this country.
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Those who support and attend the marches are racists. Where nobody thinks immigration is a good thing for this country

Just go sround in circles with you lot
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Hmmm do you have any proof to back up your claim that they are all racists? I've seen immigrants themselves on that march, are they racist too?
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Do you think people from foreign coumtries can't be racist? That's a bit basic.
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When you hear them being interviewed and speak for themselves then no, I don't believe them to be racist.

You can hear interviews with people who attended the Unite the Kingdom rally on the Triggernometry channel. It isn't just the racist thugs that you'd have everyone believe.

comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 6 minutes ago
Did a Tory say the vast majority understand that we should seek to help those less fortunate?
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I know. Mind blown!! Hilarious how it doesn't fit in to the simple lens that you look at life through. I mean i live in the South East, you'd guess id spend my weekends on the coast fighting them on the beaches and taking pot shots at rubber dinghies!

Firstly ‘benefits’ isn’t the catch all term people think it is. People can be benefiting society and the economy on benefits, not every person on benefits is Andy Pippen

Secondly, ‘immigration …. Current system ain’t working’ is simplistic and imho a wrong statement. It can be improved upon, and there are flaws in how it is set up currently. But it is certainly working and we are benefiting from it, it just comes with flaws: some we can and should control, others are outwith our control.

No, those two positions are in conflict. Tories, by definition, do not seek to help those less fortunate.

comment by Robbing Hoody - No Halloween this year, the ho... (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - No Halloween this year, the ho... (U6374)
posted 28 minutes ago
Net migration in 2024 was 415,000.

However, deaths outstripped births by 16,500 and this is an increasing trend due to a record low birth rate.
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and we have +1m immigrants on benefits.

Would you move to another country and take from their system and not expect to be questioned.
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I honestly don’t care, because legal immigration is repeatedly proven to be financially beneficial and a net positive, and illegal immigrants can’t claim,

You’re being conned.
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Fair enough. Do you pay taxes?

I want our Govt to spend our money wisely, not have natives and immigrants adding unnecessarily to massive benefits bill.

While immigration is needed and financially beneficial that is not to say there isn't also massive wastage in the system.

Im not being conned that's the facts. And at a time when the public finances are hugely stretched I think anyone has the right to demand their taxes are well spent and not wasted, across every department.

Would you expect to move to a country, not work and take from their welfare system. I would expect to be asked to leave and wouldn't be surprised by that or see it as racist. It's their country.

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 6 minutes ago
Did a Tory say the vast majority understand that we should seek to help those less fortunate?
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I know. Mind blown!! Hilarious how it doesn't fit in to the simple lens that you look at life through. I mean i live in the South East, you'd guess id spend my weekends on the coast fighting them on the beaches and taking pot shots at rubber dinghies!
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That's more of a Reform approach. You're a Tory. As such, you would have a more sinister approach. Take them in, be seen to be caring by the community. Meanwhile for their upkeep in your barn, you force them into UK and England flag production. Mass production. Working them to the bone for 16 hours until they can work no more and you toss their corpses back into the sea and replace them with a newly "rescued" immigrant.

"Ugbungo is looking better than last week Devon, glad to see him in good health. It's great what you are doing for them", yells a neighbour from the property boundary.

"Yeah, 'Ugbungo'. Doing much better thanks. This is more like the Ugbungo we know." Whilst uttering words under his breath regarding the productivity of the new Ugbungo compared to the one who has demised.

That's being a tory.

I pay a lot of tax yes, but I’m happy to help those in need with it too.

UC could mean they get £5, but if they’re the partner or child of an NHS Doctor, who cares?

You’re so focused on the word ‘immigrant’ that you’ve literally just glossed over the very simple fact that immigrants bring in billions as a net positive. Billions.

That’s it. It really is that simple and I’ve no interest in marginalising their family who may need to claim,

Illegal immigrants can’t claim.

NET positive financial benefit. The end,

comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 5 minutes ago
Firstly ‘benefits’ isn’t the catch all term people think it is. People can be benefiting society and the economy on benefits, not every person on benefits is Andy Pippen

Secondly, ‘immigration …. Current system ain’t working’ is simplistic and imho a wrong statement. It can be improved upon, and there are flaws in how it is set up currently. But it is certainly working and we are benefiting from it, it just comes with flaws: some we can and should control, others are outwith our control.
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Yeah, you're right. It isnt broken but it isnt working efficiently either, as 1m on benefits is testament to. .

But to be balanced the benefits system isnt working well generally, as the millions of young people claiming benefits is also testament to.

Generally, both systems are a bit of a soft touch, which is funny when you consider it's a legacy of the Tories.

The ‘immigrants’ we should really go after are the Arab, Russian and American billionaires that own most of London and fack everyone in the country by doing so.

comment by Cameron Congreve (U1734)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 6 minutes ago
Did a Tory say the vast majority understand that we should seek to help those less fortunate?
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I know. Mind blown!! Hilarious how it doesn't fit in to the simple lens that you look at life through. I mean i live in the South East, you'd guess id spend my weekends on the coast fighting them on the beaches and taking pot shots at rubber dinghies!
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That's more of a Reform approach. You're a Tory. As such, you would have a more sinister approach. Take them in, be seen to be caring by the community. Meanwhile for their upkeep in your barn, you force them into UK and England flag production. Mass production. Working them to the bone for 16 hours until they can work no more and you toss their corpses back into the sea and replace them with a newly "rescued" immigrant.

"Ugbungo is looking better than last week Devon, glad to see him in good health. It's great what you are doing for them", yells a neighbour from the property boundary.

"Yeah, 'Ugbungo'. Doing much better thanks. This is more like the Ugbungo we know." Whilst uttering words under his breath regarding the productivity of the new Ugbungo compared to the one who has demised.

That's being a tory.
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Farage hates immigrants so much that he’s only married two and brought a third in as a GF.

They’re white though, so it doesn’t matter.

comment by Robbing Hoody - No Halloween this year, the ho... (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
I pay a lot of tax yes, but I’m happy to help those in need with it too.

UC could mean they get £5, but if they’re the partner or child of an NHS Doctor, who cares?

You’re so focused on the word ‘immigrant’ that you’ve literally just glossed over the very simple fact that immigrants bring in billions as a net positive. Billions.

That’s it. It really is that simple and I’ve no interest in marginalising their family who may need to claim,

Illegal immigrants can’t claim.

NET positive financial benefit. The end,
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Oh! "the end" That classic debating technique.

I am not contesting the benefits of migration. Have repeatedly acknowledged this and our need for it.

To summarise, you are happy to not hold your Government to account for how they spend the "lots" of taxes you pay.

In this case yes, there are far larger problems that cost us far more money than that and I’m just not racist. Sorry about that.

Just as an example, there are 1.3 million empty homes in this country, during a housing crisis, thats driven rents to unprecedented levels.

Who do you think owns them?

comment by Cameron Congreve (U1734)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 6 minutes ago
Did a Tory say the vast majority understand that we should seek to help those less fortunate?
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I know. Mind blown!! Hilarious how it doesn't fit in to the simple lens that you look at life through. I mean i live in the South East, you'd guess id spend my weekends on the coast fighting them on the beaches and taking pot shots at rubber dinghies!
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That's more of a Reform approach. You're a Tory. As such, you would have a more sinister approach. Take them in, be seen to be caring by the community. Meanwhile for their upkeep in your barn, you force them into UK and England flag production. Mass production. Working them to the bone for 16 hours until they can work no more and you toss their corpses back into the sea and replace them with a newly "rescued" immigrant.

"Ugbungo is looking better than last week Devon, glad to see him in good health. It's great what you are doing for them", yells a neighbour from the property boundary.

"Yeah, 'Ugbungo'. Doing much better thanks. This is more like the Ugbungo we know." Whilst uttering words under his breath regarding the productivity of the new Ugbungo compared to the one who has demised.

That's being a tory.
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You clearly have no idea.

One can keep and feed immigrants far cheaper than gun dogs. Ive replaced almost all of mine with mainly African's as their stamina is fantastic, they survive on a bowl or 2 of rice and at the end of the shoot they also serve us drinks...show me a gun dog that can do that !? Although i do miss old blackie. She was my favourite

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - No Halloween this year, the ho... (U6374)
posted 28 minutes ago
Net migration in 2024 was 415,000.

However, deaths outstripped births by 16,500 and this is an increasing trend due to a record low birth rate.
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and we have +1m immigrants on benefits.

Would you move to another country and take from their system and not expect to be questioned.
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You dont 'take' beneifits (as you are alluding to here) You receive them if you are legally entitled to them.

comment by Robbing Hoody - No Halloween this year, the ho... (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
Just as an example, there are 1.3 million empty homes in this country, during a housing crisis, thats driven rents to unprecedented levels.

Who do you think owns them?
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Probably your Mums airbnb business

Damn those 2nd/3rd/4th etc home-owners, ruining our property market

comment by Robbing Hoody - No Halloween this year, the horror Is Rëal (U6374)
posted 11 minutes ago
Farage hates immigrants so much that he’s only married two and brought a third in as a GF.

They’re white though, so it doesn’t matter.
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It’s like a slave owner saying he’s not racist because he loves the raaape baby his slave gave birth to.

comment by RB&W - Our representative on the pitch (U21434)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - No Halloween this year, the ho... (U6374)
posted 28 minutes ago
Net migration in 2024 was 415,000.

However, deaths outstripped births by 16,500 and this is an increasing trend due to a record low birth rate.
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and we have +1m immigrants on benefits.

Would you move to another country and take from their system and not expect to be questioned.
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You dont 'take' beneifits (as you are alluding to here) You receive them if you are legally entitled to them.
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Sorry, my eye sight aint good enough to split such tiny hairs.

comment by Robbing Hoody - No Halloween this year, the ho... (U6374)
posted 9 minutes ago
In this case yes, there are far larger problems that cost us far more money than that and I’m just not racist. Sorry about that.
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Hilarious take from you.

comment by Robbing Hoody - No Halloween this year, the horror Is Rëal (U6374)
posted 12 minutes ago
Farage hates immigrants so much that he’s only married two and brought a third in as a GF.

They’re white though, so it doesn’t matter.
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Michael.Barrymore has endorsed them saying they're all white.

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - No Halloween this year, the ho... (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
Just as an example, there are 1.3 million empty homes in this country, during a housing crisis, thats driven rents to unprecedented levels.

Who do you think owns them?
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Probably your Mums airbnb business

Damn those 2nd/3rd/4th etc home-owners, ruining our property market
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I mean you can be facetious, but rent is an actual real problem and one that has a genuine effects on tens of millions of people in what is clearly a manipulated market.

But you’re concerned that Doctor Iqbals son claims a bit of UC while trying to get a job.

You’re either being conned, or you hate immigrants so much that you can’t see the real, everyday problems facing this country that are caused by the elite class.

You’d like greater efficiency from immigrants. Well boo-hoo, they’re only bringing £3.5bn profit a year.

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - Our representative on the pitch (U21434)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - No Halloween this year, the ho... (U6374)
posted 28 minutes ago
Net migration in 2024 was 415,000.

However, deaths outstripped births by 16,500 and this is an increasing trend due to a record low birth rate.
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and we have +1m immigrants on benefits.

Would you move to another country and take from their system and not expect to be questioned.
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You dont 'take' beneifits (as you are alluding to here) You receive them if you are legally entitled to them.
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Sorry, my eye sight aint good enough to split such tiny hairs.


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Also not good enough to see the irony of you making that comment.

and if long term immigrants already settled and established in this country are a problem, why do the nasty right all of a sudden want to withdraw ILR from them?