They've made the women's team really successful because there's no money in the women's game for them so they might as well just make sure they're successful on the pitch. That proves they know how to do it. They could have easily done the same with the men's team too but that's clearly not where their priorities lie.

Accustation - we're now a selling club!

(Lack of) evidence - we've not sold one of their investments yet. Only Angelo I can think of & that's cos Estevao's on the way.

A lot of that atm.

Casedei as well, so two

Only two so far although their "project" is clearly in it's infancy. And we've sold hundreds of millions worth of players since they took over. Something that gets ignored or played down.

Agree with Devil they aren’t actively trying to make the money on player sales

They have been pretty clear it’s about increasing the value and flipping the club in 8 years or so

Player trading the club into the ground would make them less money if that’s really their plan

We'll see. I do expect Palmer to draw interest this summer and that'll be revealing for me.

Either way, speaking from the heart, I'm not happy. From the get go you've got Boehly doing up his best Abramovich impression (while Eghbail's slagging him off) and I've not felt this remotely resembles the Chelsea I know, and it's only gotten further away from that as time's gone on minus the odd decision, e.g. Caicedo feels like a Chelsea player.

They won't make any money on these players anyway as most of them have been crap. Only Palmer will get them a profit.

French CBs all a failure
Mudryk flop
Two current GKs not good enough
Enzo, no one will pay what we did.
Sancho, Neto and Madueke all flatter to deceive.
Nkunku & Felix unlikely to get our money back

Nwanweri is a good player

comment by Devil (U6522)
posted 14 minutes ago
We'll see. I do expect Palmer to draw interest this summer and that'll be revealing for me.

Either way, speaking from the heart, I'm not happy. From the get go you've got Boehly doing up his best Abramovich impression (while Eghbail's slagging him off) and I've not felt this remotely resembles the Chelsea I know, and it's only gotten further away from that as time's gone on minus the odd decision, e.g. Caicedo feels like a Chelsea player.
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The difficulty there is if Palmer doesnt want to leave England then really only a City return is feasible as an option. Even going into Europe which clubs can throw 120-140m at a player. Just Madrid basically

comment by Blarmy (U14547)
posted 1 minute ago

comment by Devil (U6522)
posted 14 minutes ago
We'll see. I do expect Palmer to draw interest this summer and that'll be revealing for me.

Either way, speaking from the heart, I'm not happy. From the get go you've got Boehly doing up his best Abramovich impression (while Eghbail's slagging him off) and I've not felt this remotely resembles the Chelsea I know, and it's only gotten further away from that as time's gone on minus the odd decision, e.g. Caicedo feels like a Chelsea player.
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The difficulty there is if Palmer doesnt want to leave England then really only a City return is feasible as an option. Even going into Europe which clubs can throw 120-140m at a player. Just Madrid basically
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True. In a way that makes the acid test more acidic? Means we'd need to work to shift him

Bournemouth and City winning so we're currently 6th

I know this may be just a coincidence, but Fofana got injured in early December, and then just a couple of weeks later we stopped winning. You really need a solid spine in this league, and we are just so soft through the middle at the moment. In that first half yesterday Brighton attacked twice and scored twice. I’m not saying Fofana is the answer (he’ll only be fit for a few games before he inevitably injures himself again), but a commanding player at the back is essential. Crazy that we have so many poor-average centre backs.

City new signing with a hat trick

A team that took the opportunity to improve their chances of top 4 by strengthening in January

comment by BlueJ2 (U4630)
posted 14 minutes ago

I know this may be just a coincidence, but Fofana got injured in early December, and then just a couple of weeks later we stopped winning. You really need a solid spine in this league, and we are just so soft through the middle at the moment. In that first half yesterday Brighton attacked twice and scored twice. I’m not saying Fofana is the answer (he’ll only be fit for a few games before he inevitably injures himself again), but a commanding player at the back is essential. Crazy that we have so many poor-average centre backs.
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Lawrence Stewart's got some explaining to do. His Monaco boys not got the job done, one's already outta here.

comment by T.J (U15973)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
They won't make any money on these players anyway as most of them have been crap. Only Palmer will get them a profit.

French CBs all a failure
Mudryk flop
Two current GKs not good enough
Enzo, no one will pay what we did.
Sancho, Neto and Madueke all flatter to deceive.
Nkunku & Felix unlikely to get our money back
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I'm not sure we necessarily need to make a profit as such, because there is the usual revenues that cover the some of the squad costs. The benefit of buying young is that you would hope that players broadly retain their value for some time, meaning if you sell then they've effectively just cost the wages and not the transfer fee. On average, I'd say the players have kept their value and we will have many of them playing for much longer. We've seen some crazy fees being spent by other clubs. The fact we made good profits on Angelo, Hutchinson, and Casadei held value, weve already got 1/3rd Veiga cost back through a half season loan.

comment by jesus6662 (U8600)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by T.J (U15973)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
They won't make any money on these players anyway as most of them have been crap. Only Palmer will get them a profit.

French CBs all a failure
Mudryk flop
Two current GKs not good enough
Enzo, no one will pay what we did.
Sancho, Neto and Madueke all flatter to deceive.
Nkunku & Felix unlikely to get our money back
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I'm not sure we necessarily need to make a profit as such, because there is the usual revenues that cover the some of the squad costs. The benefit of buying young is that you would hope that players broadly retain their value for some time, meaning if you sell then they've effectively just cost the wages and not the transfer fee. On average, I'd say the players have kept their value and we will have many of them playing for much longer. We've seen some crazy fees being spent by other clubs. The fact we made good profits on Angelo, Hutchinson, and Casadei held value, weve already got 1/3rd Veiga cost back through a half season loan.
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That argument holds if the price you pay for the young talent incorporates the risk.

But with Mudryk for example, £62m is a massive amount so we paid premium price for someone with potential, which is going to be unfulfilled. So his value has plummeted and we’re not going to make anything close to it back. Or that Villa youth player who’s never going to play for us, who we sold Maatsen for. Then you’ve got the players who aren’t even young that were not worth the amount like Disasi or Sanchez.

Compared to let’s say Madueke who was around £30m. That was much lower risk and the price we paid was a somewhat fair amount, so we could easily sell him for at least £20m.

Nkunku we should still be able to get a decent amount for from a German club.

Albeit with Werner we had to take like a 50% loss and he’s never been the same player since.

At least Newcastle lost

comment by CSTP (U1453)
posted 3 minutes ago
At least Newcastle lost
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Are losing you mean?

Our summer star signing from Ipswich has scored too

At least Forest are losing

comment by CSTP (U1453)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by jesus6662 (U8600)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by T.J (U15973)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
They won't make any money on these players anyway as most of them have been crap. Only Palmer will get them a profit.

French CBs all a failure
Mudryk flop
Two current GKs not good enough
Enzo, no one will pay what we did.
Sancho, Neto and Madueke all flatter to deceive.
Nkunku & Felix unlikely to get our money back
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I'm not sure we necessarily need to make a profit as such, because there is the usual revenues that cover the some of the squad costs. The benefit of buying young is that you would hope that players broadly retain their value for some time, meaning if you sell then they've effectively just cost the wages and not the transfer fee. On average, I'd say the players have kept their value and we will have many of them playing for much longer. We've seen some crazy fees being spent by other clubs. The fact we made good profits on Angelo, Hutchinson, and Casadei held value, weve already got 1/3rd Veiga cost back through a half season loan.
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That argument holds if the price you pay for the young talent incorporates the risk.

But with Mudryk for example, £62m is a massive amount so we paid premium price for someone with potential, which is going to be unfulfilled. So his value has plummeted and we’re not going to make anything close to it back. Or that Villa youth player who’s never going to play for us, who we sold Maatsen for. Then you’ve got the players who aren’t even young that were not worth the amount like Disasi or Sanchez.

Compared to let’s say Madueke who was around £30m. That was much lower risk and the price we paid was a somewhat fair amount, so we could easily sell him for at least £20m.
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Sure - and agree that we will have lost signifantly on Mudryk and Wes Fofana, probably Lavia as well unless he somehow recovers. But we'd have gained on the likes of Palmer, Madueke, Jackson, Gusto, Andrey Santos, plus tidy loans fees on others. I think on average we're probably not far off what we paid

Forest losing too

Could see some damage mitigated

Utd lost Amad for the rest of season too

At least they've written this season off bar Europa. We have something to play for and no good options