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Great article on Berta in Athletic.
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Great article on Berta in Athletic.
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Great article on Berta in Athletic.
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Great article on Berta in Athletic.
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https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6588110/2025/09/02/arsenal-transfers-andrea-berta-arteta/
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Arsenal had to line it up with Jakub Kiwior’s departure for Porto. Hincapie would only be signed if Kiwior left — and Kiwior would only be permitted to leave if Hincapie was secured. At one stage, Arsenal hoped to simplify matters by offering Kiwior to Leverkusen, but they were not interested. So Arsenal carried out the two negotiations in parallel.
Scouts have never really rated Kiwior.
From where do you know that scouts never really rated Kiwior? Obviously the Porto one does. And if the reports are right other clubs wanted Kiwior.
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 15 minutes ago
Scouts have never really rated Kiwior.
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Another one of those claims with no real substance behind it
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 37 minutes ago
From where do you know that scouts never really rated Kiwior? Obviously the Porto one does. And if the reports are right other clubs wanted Kiwior.
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Leverkusen turning him down. No real demand. Such a low offer from Porto.
comment by Castor Troy (U8700)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 15 minutes ago
Scouts have never really rated Kiwior.
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Another one of those claims with no real substance behind it
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For god’s sake. I posted the exert from the article above.
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 40 minutes ago
From where do you know that scouts never really rated Kiwior? Obviously the Porto one does. And if the reports are right other clubs wanted Kiwior.
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No he doesn't. Kiwior is 25 years old and a Polish International. He is not 30+ years old. Do you think if scouts rated him, Porto would have paid just €19m for him?
We paid €52m for Hincapie. Essentially to do the same thing as Kiwior. You explain the difference gt.
Kiwior isn't even on high wages
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 40 minutes ago
From where do you know that scouts never really rated Kiwior? Obviously the Porto one does. And if the reports are right other clubs wanted Kiwior.
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No he doesn't. Kiwior is 25 years old and a Polish International. He is not 30+ years old. Do you think if scouts rated him, Porto would have paid just €19m for him?
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Do you have noticed that abroad these top sells are rare? You are just blind of these silly money deals within the PL.
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 40 minutes ago
From where do you know that scouts never really rated Kiwior? Obviously the Porto one does. And if the reports are right other clubs wanted Kiwior.
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No he doesn't. Kiwior is 25 years old and a Polish International. He is not 30+ years old. Do you think if scouts rated him, Porto would have paid just €19m for him?
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Do you have noticed that abroad these top sells are rare? You are just blind of these silly money deals within the PL.
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The bigger clubs in Europe still pay good prices for top players. Just think about it. He is not going to Germany, Italy or Spain.
I give up. It's all said and done.
Manuel Akanji (30) moved for almost the same price, €16m to Inter Milan! Kiwior is just coming into his prime at 25!
We're just crap at negotiating sales.
J99 will never admit to us being sheet at selling players
comment by Castor Troy (U8700)
posted 19 minutes ago
J99 will never admit to us being sheet at selling players
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We definitely are but we are still haunted by the fact a lot of these players are not very good but on high wages. Even Del Boy couldn't shift many of these.
Would like to hope its a new dawn now but could see players like Merino, Trossard, Madueke being exactly the same next summer
Kiwior isn't on a high wage though
And he's the one we actually did OK on. Not exactly a superstar though is he, hence him ending up at Porto
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
We're just crap at negotiating sales.
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So Berta who has a load of experience selling players at Atlético is also chit at selling?
Who has been a success of all Edu's development projects? Sambi, Taveres, Kiwior, Tomiyasu, and even the highest hope for, Martinelli?
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posted on 2/9/25
DJ has the special technique of shadowbawlsing
posted on 3/9/25
Great article on Berta in Athletic.
posted on 3/9/25
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted about 2 hours ago
Great article on Berta in Athletic.
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posted on 3/9/25
comment by Chris H (U15205)
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comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
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Great article on Berta in Athletic.
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posted on 3/9/25
comment by Passion Power - Make 1984 fiction again(U8398) (U8398)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Chris H (U15205)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted about 2 hours ago
Great article on Berta in Athletic.
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https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6588110/2025/09/02/arsenal-transfers-andrea-berta-arteta/
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posted on 3/9/25
Arsenal had to line it up with Jakub Kiwior’s departure for Porto. Hincapie would only be signed if Kiwior left — and Kiwior would only be permitted to leave if Hincapie was secured. At one stage, Arsenal hoped to simplify matters by offering Kiwior to Leverkusen, but they were not interested. So Arsenal carried out the two negotiations in parallel.
posted on 3/9/25
Scouts have never really rated Kiwior.
posted on 3/9/25
From where do you know that scouts never really rated Kiwior? Obviously the Porto one does. And if the reports are right other clubs wanted Kiwior.
posted on 3/9/25
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 15 minutes ago
Scouts have never really rated Kiwior.
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Another one of those claims with no real substance behind it
posted on 3/9/25
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 37 minutes ago
From where do you know that scouts never really rated Kiwior? Obviously the Porto one does. And if the reports are right other clubs wanted Kiwior.
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Leverkusen turning him down. No real demand. Such a low offer from Porto.
posted on 3/9/25
comment by Castor Troy (U8700)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 15 minutes ago
Scouts have never really rated Kiwior.
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Another one of those claims with no real substance behind it
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For god’s sake. I posted the exert from the article above.
posted on 3/9/25
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 40 minutes ago
From where do you know that scouts never really rated Kiwior? Obviously the Porto one does. And if the reports are right other clubs wanted Kiwior.
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No he doesn't. Kiwior is 25 years old and a Polish International. He is not 30+ years old. Do you think if scouts rated him, Porto would have paid just €19m for him?
posted on 3/9/25
We paid €52m for Hincapie. Essentially to do the same thing as Kiwior. You explain the difference gt.
posted on 3/9/25
Kiwior isn't even on high wages
posted on 3/9/25
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 40 minutes ago
From where do you know that scouts never really rated Kiwior? Obviously the Porto one does. And if the reports are right other clubs wanted Kiwior.
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No he doesn't. Kiwior is 25 years old and a Polish International. He is not 30+ years old. Do you think if scouts rated him, Porto would have paid just €19m for him?
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Do you have noticed that abroad these top sells are rare? You are just blind of these silly money deals within the PL.
posted on 3/9/25
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 40 minutes ago
From where do you know that scouts never really rated Kiwior? Obviously the Porto one does. And if the reports are right other clubs wanted Kiwior.
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No he doesn't. Kiwior is 25 years old and a Polish International. He is not 30+ years old. Do you think if scouts rated him, Porto would have paid just €19m for him?
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Do you have noticed that abroad these top sells are rare? You are just blind of these silly money deals within the PL.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The bigger clubs in Europe still pay good prices for top players. Just think about it. He is not going to Germany, Italy or Spain.
posted on 3/9/25
I give up. It's all said and done.
posted on 3/9/25
Manuel Akanji (30) moved for almost the same price, €16m to Inter Milan! Kiwior is just coming into his prime at 25!
posted on 3/9/25
We're just crap at negotiating sales.
posted on 3/9/25
J99 will never admit to us being sheet at selling players
posted on 3/9/25
comment by Castor Troy (U8700)
posted 19 minutes ago
J99 will never admit to us being sheet at selling players
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We definitely are but we are still haunted by the fact a lot of these players are not very good but on high wages. Even Del Boy couldn't shift many of these.
Would like to hope its a new dawn now but could see players like Merino, Trossard, Madueke being exactly the same next summer
posted on 3/9/25
Kiwior isn't on a high wage though
posted on 3/9/25
And he's the one we actually did OK on. Not exactly a superstar though is he, hence him ending up at Porto
posted on 3/9/25
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
We're just crap at negotiating sales.
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So Berta who has a load of experience selling players at Atlético is also chit at selling?
posted on 3/9/25
Who has been a success of all Edu's development projects? Sambi, Taveres, Kiwior, Tomiyasu, and even the highest hope for, Martinelli?
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