Is it on Sky?

No, I don't think it is...the Sheff Wed game is 4 weeks later..

Anyone know why there are no games on 16th November ?...

Get your questions in for the Chairman!Huddersfield Town Chairman Dean Hoyle will be the studio guest for Thursday's edition of West Yorkshire Sport Daily on BBC Radio Leeds on Thursday evening.Town's Chairman will answer questions from fans between 6pm and 7pm.Supporters can put their questions and comments to Dean; email them right now to westyorkshiresport@bbc.co.uk or during Thursday’s show you can tweet them to @WYSDaily or text 81333, beginning your message with WYS.You can hear the show on BBC Radio Leeds 92.4FM, 774AM, DAB Digital Radio and online at www.bbc.co.uk/leedsRead more at http://www.htafc.com/news/

There you go jacko and darn . Have a right good moan to Dean on Thursday . Its all yours . That might stop you 2 moaning old gits spouting on .on here

Stick me down as a moaning Minnie.

Tinpot by the club,stadium officials and the joke that is WYP

Jacko- Nov 16th, the play offs for the World Cup are around that time

cheers Wakey..

I reckon that Robinson fella is behind all this...I'm sure he'd much prefer Town to play their home games in some other county...

Suppose I am a Moaner Lou,
But what are people to do when things aren't right, & changes need to be made ?

Helpfull info too..you putting that link up Good on ya,
trouble is, (& we all know it) The answers to any & all of the questions will be 'scripted' already, in line with the agenda & tied into health & safety regulations.

Another topic of interest that concerns Town fans right now..& the same handfull of reaction & response.
73 'views' with very little feed back...
The bar Studs are winning ....They're grinding you darn,
And you just pay your brass & go along with it.
contented sheeple.

Jacko asks...
"Why do we put up with this ?"

Why indeed.

Baaaaaaa! 🐑

Jacko says the club never listen to the fans . The never include the fan's in anything .
So what's this on the radio Jacko?
Tell us what he says to your questions won't you Jacko?

I did indeed say the club don't listen to the fans...and I took my complaints to Jarvis and Ann Hough..and told them what I thought they should do...about that, and a load of other matters Town fans has talked about.

I said they need to form a 'proper' fans forum..do a proper survey...included fans in the process...let fans have answers rather than random Tweets and small gatherings at Millbridge and Canalside.

Four months later the 'All Together Town' initiative is launched...a meeting held, a proper survey sent out, fans invited into the Fans Forum to debate/recommend and help carry the messages into the boardroom...

Now I'm not saying this was down to me...but the club agreed with a lot of what was said even though they claimed the ATT launch was due to the shares coming back and no other reason...whatever...

So now I'm NOT saying the club don't listen or communicate...because the penny has finally dropped...and we await the results of the survey.

Town said they used DATM to see what fans were saying, so they were in touch...but didn't provide any feedback to anyone about why things happened or what they were going to do about it...so nobody knew if the club cared on not...it wasn't a two way dialogue...and if they did post on DATM it wasn't under their own name or as an official response.

I'd say 90% of clubs already have the Fans Forum in place (A EUFA initiative), with fans directly involved. Some have had this in place for a number of years. Town are one of only half a dozen clubs who have ignored this, up to now..and are way behind everybody else.

Although things seem to be changing, the rate of progress is very slow...and I sense reluctant too. I don't think the reluctance is anything to do with Jarvis or Ann Hough, but more Nigel Clibbens and Dean Hoyle.
Out of all who I have had communication with, Clibbens has been the most guarded and defensive even..finding a range of excuses why things can't be done..only to be caught out at the ATT meeting and having to back track on what he'd said earlier.

In my mind there is an 'agenda' at Town, and in my opinion that comes from Dean Hoyle.

Anyway, progress is being made..so let's hope something comes out of it all and the fans get what they are asking for ...whatever the survey says that is

Lou...you're a 4 King Plank

Clueless

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Spot on Wakey...'finger on the pulse'

The bulk of communication between Town and the fans has been one way, from the club outwards..Sure they say they look at DATM...presumably just for curiosity sake..but never have they really engaged with the fans or made any attempt whatsoever to negotiate with them on issues which the fans have..not on a collective basis.. Sure going on Radio Leeds or having meetings with random numbers of fans satisfies some people..but it isn't 'engagement' is it..not with the majority anyway.

The excuse was always that without shares Town had no influence, now there is NO excuse.

& apart from 'no excuse',
They shouldn't have to ask either

That's their supposed job.

Money for old rope 'yes men'..
Other clubs are light years ahead of Town in this regard now.

We need far more than a clear out in the back line & the acquisition of a centre back, (or 2) ..
We require forward thinkers, in influential positions prepared to take on any problem confronted.

A delegation sent to Dortmund for an induction on these related matters would be a good place to start.

Communicate with the fans, so much so that when Jacko mentioned the survey on DATM some of its members hadn't even heard of it.
Yes Town have sent this out to registered email addresses but plenty opt out of receiving Towns emails because most are trash but to bring this to the fore they should've started a thread about All Together Town and the survey on DATM. They could've done as they have a account(HTAFC Communications Department I believe is the name) but they chose not to, probably more by way that it doesn't get a great response and they can say the demand for change wasn't there(pretty much like the South Stand for home fans issue/trials)

Well obviously town are embarrassed that their strategy has worked too well then if they have to extend the deadline and re-email everybody. It will be interesting to see if they get more than 1,000 responses.

You would have hoped that they would have something like 3,000+ to make it representative...

I did ask them how many they had received back but they wouldn't tell me, said I had to wait....

So Deano wants feedback does he?!!

Alright. Allow me....

Dean,

I have supported Huddersfield Town since 1992. I was a glory hunter as a young child and my first team was Everton. Sadly, I never got taken to see them as my dad worked Saturdays and my mum wouldnt watch footy back then. Then one Tuesday evening my best friend and neighbour took me to Leeds Rd to watch Town reserves. I loved it. It was like the Shay but much bigger...bigger stands, bigger floodlights. They even sold Burtons 'Fish & Chips' crisps. "Oh yeah" said I, I want more of this.

The next time Town played at home I scrounged some extra pocket money and off I went to the game. This time I was on the opposite side of the pitch in the vast East Terrace, which as an 11 year old, made my jaw drop. I was hooked. The noise all around me, the smell of old men's tobacco pipes, the shiny centre forward (Maskell). This was now MY club. Forget Everton, Mike Newell, Tony Cottee. THESE guys were my heroes now. I felt like I belonged.

I stayed amongst the East Terrace support for a while, but before long I was itching to get my Cowshed stripes. We asked my mates dad if we could go in one Saturday, he replied no and we were gutted. The next game we asked. And the next. And the next....

He couldn't deny our fate forever and one Tuesday night we got our wish. It was wild. We bounced around, were carried by the sway of moving bodies and I even got a chant going near the end...ace!! Even better, the lads did the business on the hallowed turf and we beat Carlisle 4-1...."WEM-BER-LEE, WEM-BER-LEE......"

Wembley disappointment against Swansea came and went and soon it was time to bring the curtains down on Leeds Road. I had only been visiting for 3 years but I still felt the sadness of others as I sat watching the pitch invasion from the open terrace behind the goal. I had to betray the Shed to say I'd watched Town from every angle at the ground!

Over the summer of 94, things began to change for me personally. The friend who had introduced me to the club and I started to go our seperate ways. Nights arguing over who was Phil Starbuck during games of '3 & in' we're replaced by studies and a steady girlfriend for him and cannabis and easy girls for me. This could have been the end for me but the new stadium brought new hope and I still wanted in. My first ever season ticket was given to me by my folks as an early birthday present and I arranged to go to the games with some older mates from the sixth form at school.

I missed 2 games in our amazing 1995 promotion season; Chester and Plymouth away. I would beg, borrow and steal all week to raise enough train fare for away matches but I got there in the end. I lost my first "proper" girlfriend, choosing to go to Oxford instead of her birthday party, and even missed out my last day of school ever, just so I could say I was there at Griffin Park when we booked our date with destiny against Bristol Rovers at Wembley. Nothing else mattered. It was Town, me & my mates versus the world.

For a few seasons we enjoyed flirting with promotion to the top division but eventually it would all come crashing down. I'm still haunted by Nico Vaesens face at the end of that game with Birmingham.

And it would get worse. After failing to get up at the first attempt it would soon sink as low as it ever got when poor management all round would see us in League Two.

We didn't hang around there and after a thrilling climax in Cardiff we were back on the road to recovery.

Then after being average for a little while, we struck gold! Not only did we have a bloody rich investor, but this guy was a fan!! Here was somebody that knew the highs and lows I'd been through in my relatively short life as a Town. Nothing could stop us now.

And so we fast forward to the here and now. We still have this investor, and he continues to finance the club largely from his own pocket. His investment even ensured we got back onto the same high level we'd been at 8 years previously and would never have been excluded from if the people in charge had an ounce of financial sense.

All good surely? Sadly not....

The fact is, under this regime I no longer feel the club values my support. Maybe they appreciate the money I spend, but my feelings as a supporter? I'm not convinced.

Football to me is about more than what division we are in. Christ, I was hooked at a reserve match, so it's not that what matters the most to me. All I see now is a club and directors so hungry for positive PR exposure that they have lost touch with the reason we all got involved - the Matchday experience.

I used to pay £4 to get into the Cowshed. The facilities were crap, it was freezing 90% of the time and I'd have to p-ss against a wall or wait til I got home. But I didn't care nor did anyone else. Why? Because we were in it together. It was a community feeling and we all bought into it.

I'm expected to pay nigh on £30 to sit in a morgue, where the stewards think they're prison wardens, and the away fans are given the optimum stand where acoustics are concerned. The worst part of all of this is that I don't even feel like protesting, as I am absolutely convinced that the club don't give a sh-t about my Matchday experience or anyone else's.

So if you want my advice Mr Hoyle, then give the club back to the fans. If you want to be a fundraiser then how about you do it in your own free time or not at all? We're footy fans, and as such none of us care about going to heaven. How about swapping the saddle for public forums, get back to our level and listen to those of us who give your bikerides credibility? I couldn't even buy my little boy a home shirt from the club shop at Christmas, yet I'm sure you're hoping I bring him to games when he's old enough?

Maybe I'm just getting old, but Saturdays aren't what they used to be. And I blame you Dean. I don't want to watch us in the Championship if this is what I have to endure. I used to have more fun freezing my nuts off huddled with 150 others in the open end at Exeter than I'm having right now.

If you care, prove it by listening. Or shut the door on your way out.

Yours Sincerely,

Champers xx

Blooming 'eck Champers...that is such a good post...and sums up perfectly how many of us feel but haven't been able to put into words as well as you have...

If Deano read that he'd have a shudder and think to himself..."what the heck has happened to me....."

It's from the <heart> Jacko

You should cut and copy it onto DATM, then Deano will likely see it ..Town do look on there but I don't think they come on here...

I don't go near that wretched site Jacko, but by all means you have my permission to post it on my behalf

I've watched Town since Denis Law's days, when I stood in the old uncovered Leeds Road stand p-ss wet through and freezing to death in winter and unable to see most of the game, due to taller b-ggers stood in front of me.

It also took 10 mins to fight your way through the crowd and reach the p-ss hole at the bottom of the endless flight of wooden steps. Once there you stood behind an uncovered brick wall and attempted to p-ss, stood tight up against fifty other like minded individuals.

I also tried the Cowshed on occasions but could never understand the attraction of being crammed like sardines in a can, where half the fans spent most of the game with their backs to the field of play and hadn't a clue as to what was going on, or apparently cared.

As for the stewards, I'd no problem with them in the fifties and still have no problems with them today, since if you behave your sens, then they'll leave you well alone.

Today I can sit in comfort in the Britannia rescue stand free from the elements, with a perfect uninterrupted view of the game and reach the p-ss hole in a couple of minutes flat, have a p-ss and even a sh-te if necessary, fully insulated from the elements.

As for the match day experience, I see little or no difference, except that the crowds were more vociferous in the fifties, due mainly to the larger crowds supporting Town, in the days before TV and Sky got such a stranglehold over football and most other sports.

As for the quality of football,it was probably more exiting, since those were the days when referees allowed the game to flow and you could tackle anything above the grass without penalty, whereas today the game is riddled with divers, posers, cheats and grossly over paid prima donas.

So I take my hat off to Hoyley, because at least he has the courage to put his money where his gob is and also resist the moaners, who would have him take the game back fifty years and allow them to stand again and cause the mayhem which led to fans once being fenced in like a bunch of animals, or have some fans already forgotten the disasters at Hillsborough and the Heysell Stadium?

So, upwards and onwards Deano and b-llocks to the moaners, who wish to turn the clock back fifty years or more.

resist the moaners, who would have him take the game back fifty years and allow them to stand again and cause the mayhem which led to fans once being fenced in like a bunch of animals, or have some fans already forgotten the disasters at Hillsborough and the Heysell Stadium?





Did you really say that?

Hillsborough happened because of grave errors by the authorities and Heysel was an act of Hooliganism which wouldn't have happened had the game not been held in one of Europe's most unsuitable, dilapidated venues for a large-scale football match. Don't believe everything Thatcher's puppets would have you believe...

Do the Dortmund fans on one of Europe's largest terraces "cause mayhem" due to them being "caged like animals". No they don't. And do not think for one second that Germany hasn't encountered the hooligan epidemic in the past.

The fact is Mirf, and I'm a little sorry to say this, but it's the fans like YOU that I don't want at football. I know your type. You're the guy who pulls on my coat and says "siddown" because I dared to stand up and question a decision. You won't be surprised to know I'm the guy who retorts with two simple words.

And they're not "I'm sorry"....