Like the Duncan Edwards comment, sadly taken from us, shame we wouldn't have seen him and what he would have been.
Stop drinking terpentine
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It's true. Zizou only orchestrated great wins when he had exceptional team mates. With France he played alongside, Henry, Desailly, Djorkaeff, Vieira, Pires, Petit, Thuram etc. Likewise with the other Galacticos at Madrid.
He was an expert at pulling the strings but he was relatively easy to defend against due to his lack of pace. Most PL defences would just crowd him out. He didn't have enough goals in his locker either. His PB for a La Liga season was 9 goals (same as Ozil).
Zidane would be an awful pick. He was always overrated & couldn't tear teams apart on his own.
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Stop drinking terpentine
^^^^^^^^^^^^ this
I would go as far as I think Riquelme was better than Zidane, I just don't think it worked out for him.
I personally think he could have gone on to be a legend of the game but due to issues with managers, clubs etc etc, He eventually went back to South America and is kind of a forgotten player.
Mex for appreciating my comment without the 's which I am probably open to from some of the younger posters who never got to see him orchestrate a game.
Zizou only orchestrated great wins when he had exceptional team mates.
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like Stephane Guivarch? Zidane was a genius, although i dont agree he's the greatest ever, i dont even think he's the greatest French player of all time
Zidane was a pleasure to watch touch control vision just a magnificent player.
The idea that Zidane only played well in great teams is akin to the classic "messi couldn't do it on a cold night in stoke"... We will never know how he would do... Just like we will never know how well ZZ would have done with lesser players, but most if us can work it out.
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - MoyesIn, MoyesOut, ya shake it all about (U2958)
posted 59 seconds ago
The idea that Zidane only played well in great teams is akin to the classic "messi couldn't do it on a cold night in stoke"... We will never know how he would do... Just like we will never know how well ZZ would have done with lesser players, but most if us can work it out.
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I don't think that is completely true, but I also don't completely agree with the initial point either.
Zidanes magic was with the ball, which was more effective when his team mates were moving around well, in games with little movement, he wasn't as good as lets say Messi at making something happen from nothing.
Can't remember the game but zz controlled a 40 yard hard hit pass arriving over his shoulder and when his foot hit the floor the ball was dead still not even spinning.
My god it was breath taking.
comment by Mancblueloz (U6305)
posted 1 minute ago
Can't remember the game but zz controlled a 40 yard hard hit pass arriving over his shoulder and when his foot hit the floor the ball was dead still not even spinning.
My god it was breath taking.
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ive seen Ozil do that, and Berbatov
Maybe so but will either player mentioned have an impact and legacy zz did.
I can't say they won't but in that moment my god I just thought what a player.
My mate mick said that when Brazilian Ronaldo for Madrid played at united in the champions league for Madrid at ot it was the best individual performance he's ever seen from an opposing player.
I just love football!
My mate mick said that when Brazilian Ronaldo for Madrid played at united in the champions league for Madrid at ot it was the best individual performance he's ever seen from an opposing player.
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i said the self same thing on a thread last night but im not your mate Mick............. or am i?
Oops did I say he played for Madrid
Unless your name is Higgins mick Higgins then no
Speaking of Madrid.... Figo is worth a mention
I did mention figo.
What a player!
Brazilian Ronaldo is the best player ive ever seen Loz, at 19/20 years old at Barca, he's the only player ive ever seen who was literally unplayable, because he was faster than everyone, stronger than everyone and more talented than everyone there's a goal he scores vs Compostela where there's about 3 defenders hanging off him he beats them all and sticks it in the back of the net, the camera pans to Bobby Robson on the Barca bench stood with his hands on his head in sheer disbelief at what he's just seen
Mex I know what you mean.
A proper Brazilian forward!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7n9ZLnAnYsc
this is a brilliant video of him, people who call Ronaldinho the most skilful player ever obviously didnt see ronaldo, he was doing all the tricks before Ronaldinho was a professional footballer
Better than a proper forwards Brazilian
Would have loved to see Eusabio play.
yeah, and Ferenc Puskas, my grandad was at wembley when they stuffed us 6-3, and to this day he says thats the greatest football team he's ever seen, and that Puskas is the greatest player he's ever seen
Cantona. Him and Jose at the same club would put the media into a permanent state of orgasm.
Lesser reason: we need a great striker badly
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posted on 30/1/14
Like the Duncan Edwards comment, sadly taken from us, shame we wouldn't have seen him and what he would have been.
posted on 30/1/14
King Ledley........
posted on 30/1/14
Stop drinking terpentine
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It's true. Zizou only orchestrated great wins when he had exceptional team mates. With France he played alongside, Henry, Desailly, Djorkaeff, Vieira, Pires, Petit, Thuram etc. Likewise with the other Galacticos at Madrid.
He was an expert at pulling the strings but he was relatively easy to defend against due to his lack of pace. Most PL defences would just crowd him out. He didn't have enough goals in his locker either. His PB for a La Liga season was 9 goals (same as Ozil).
posted on 30/1/14
Zidane would be an awful pick. He was always overrated & couldn't tear teams apart on his own.
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Stop drinking terpentine
^^^^^^^^^^^^ this
posted on 30/1/14
Zidane!
posted on 30/1/14
I would go as far as I think Riquelme was better than Zidane, I just don't think it worked out for him.
I personally think he could have gone on to be a legend of the game but due to issues with managers, clubs etc etc, He eventually went back to South America and is kind of a forgotten player.
Mex for appreciating my comment without the 's which I am probably open to from some of the younger posters who never got to see him orchestrate a game.
posted on 30/1/14
Zizou only orchestrated great wins when he had exceptional team mates.
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like Stephane Guivarch? Zidane was a genius, although i dont agree he's the greatest ever, i dont even think he's the greatest French player of all time
posted on 30/1/14
Zidane was a pleasure to watch touch control vision just a magnificent player.
posted on 30/1/14
The idea that Zidane only played well in great teams is akin to the classic "messi couldn't do it on a cold night in stoke"... We will never know how he would do... Just like we will never know how well ZZ would have done with lesser players, but most if us can work it out.
posted on 30/1/14
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - MoyesIn, MoyesOut, ya shake it all about (U2958)
posted 59 seconds ago
The idea that Zidane only played well in great teams is akin to the classic "messi couldn't do it on a cold night in stoke"... We will never know how he would do... Just like we will never know how well ZZ would have done with lesser players, but most if us can work it out.
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I don't think that is completely true, but I also don't completely agree with the initial point either.
Zidanes magic was with the ball, which was more effective when his team mates were moving around well, in games with little movement, he wasn't as good as lets say Messi at making something happen from nothing.
posted on 30/1/14
Can't remember the game but zz controlled a 40 yard hard hit pass arriving over his shoulder and when his foot hit the floor the ball was dead still not even spinning.
My god it was breath taking.
posted on 30/1/14
comment by Mancblueloz (U6305)
posted 1 minute ago
Can't remember the game but zz controlled a 40 yard hard hit pass arriving over his shoulder and when his foot hit the floor the ball was dead still not even spinning.
My god it was breath taking.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
ive seen Ozil do that, and Berbatov
posted on 30/1/14
Maybe so but will either player mentioned have an impact and legacy zz did.
I can't say they won't but in that moment my god I just thought what a player.
My mate mick said that when Brazilian Ronaldo for Madrid played at united in the champions league for Madrid at ot it was the best individual performance he's ever seen from an opposing player.
I just love football!
posted on 30/1/14
My mate mick said that when Brazilian Ronaldo for Madrid played at united in the champions league for Madrid at ot it was the best individual performance he's ever seen from an opposing player.
=========================================
i said the self same thing on a thread last night but im not your mate Mick............. or am i?
posted on 30/1/14
Oops did I say he played for Madrid
posted on 30/1/14
Unless your name is Higgins mick Higgins then no
posted on 30/1/14
Speaking of Madrid.... Figo is worth a mention
posted on 30/1/14
I did mention figo.
What a player!
posted on 30/1/14
Brazilian Ronaldo is the best player ive ever seen Loz, at 19/20 years old at Barca, he's the only player ive ever seen who was literally unplayable, because he was faster than everyone, stronger than everyone and more talented than everyone there's a goal he scores vs Compostela where there's about 3 defenders hanging off him he beats them all and sticks it in the back of the net, the camera pans to Bobby Robson on the Barca bench stood with his hands on his head in sheer disbelief at what he's just seen
posted on 30/1/14
Drogba
posted on 30/1/14
Mex I know what you mean.
A proper Brazilian forward!
posted on 30/1/14
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7n9ZLnAnYsc
this is a brilliant video of him, people who call Ronaldinho the most skilful player ever obviously didnt see ronaldo, he was doing all the tricks before Ronaldinho was a professional footballer
posted on 30/1/14
Better than a proper forwards Brazilian
Would have loved to see Eusabio play.
posted on 30/1/14
yeah, and Ferenc Puskas, my grandad was at wembley when they stuffed us 6-3, and to this day he says thats the greatest football team he's ever seen, and that Puskas is the greatest player he's ever seen
posted on 30/1/14
Cantona. Him and Jose at the same club would put the media into a permanent state of orgasm.
Lesser reason: we need a great striker badly
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