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it was a penalty, relax and move on
Let me throw this into the mix Adebayor was man handled his jersey was pulled by Lovren late on yet no penalty it is not sour grapes on my part because Liverpool played well they are a quality team but the Allen penalty changed the course of the game for us now are referees cheats or sheer incompetent I would like to believe the latter.
Contact does not equate a foul.
For example a good full bloody challenge that's a genuine attempt to win the ball but takes the man completely is fine and not a foul but if there's no attempt to directly win the ball and the defender resorts to pulling on the arm of the attack it's illegally trying to stop the player therefore it's a foul.
Sir Robert Paisley (U3823)
I'm discussing an incident from the weekend.
The world doesn't revolve around Liverpool.
If anyone can, Emre Can... (U3979)
So as soon as the defender touches the forward, it's a foul?
That's effectively what you're saying, and you are wrong.
Touching a player isn't a foul.
Pulling him back to impede him is a foul.
It's very simple.
The fact he let go quick doesn't excuse that he out his arm out and pulled him back.
He wasn't trying to dance with him.
Winston you aren't reading my comment.
If you touch the player and win the ball of course it's not a foul. If you touch the player and don't win the ball but impede the player then it is a foul.
righteous1 (U7048)
He didn't pull him.
There was no grab, he didn't hold his shirt, his arm or his body.
So how did he pull him, exactly?
With the power of thought?
so was the one on ade a pen then righteous...!?
If anyone can, Emre Can... (U3979)
You've just made that up and it's not how the laws work.
Besides, he wasn't impeded.
That's the whole point.
He was impeded!
You can't pull people back in the box and get away with it end of story.
I didn't see the one on ade as I haven't watched all of the game
If he was pulled back then yes it was
If anyone can, Emre Can... (U3979)
He wasn't impeded.
And he didn't pull him.
You've convinced yourself that it was a pen, but let me assure you, you are wrong.
It's actually unbelievable that people are even debating this.
Winston is obsessed with Liverpool players, and our manager, just check his article history
He wouldn't be writing this article if Allen still played for Swansea.
He won't admit that obviously
How is Allen pulled when Dier's palm is open the whole time? No way was it a penalty, Allen's theatrics proved that.
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Surely the point is that Dier was really stupid. We all know Liverpool players through themselves to the ground every chance they get in the penalty area. So why grab his shirt whatever the contact was he was going to go down and then the ref has to make a decision.
Hopefully Dier will learn but yesterday was a bad day for him.
righteous1 (U7048)
Yes, that's right.
The world revolves around Liverpool and their players.
God forbid anyone create an article about a major talking point from the weekend.
Whatever next, on a football forum?
Greatteamswinit4times-I'mdogmatic 27/4 (U6008)
You are someone that comes on my threads and criticises the way I post.
Well, here's an example of you jumping straight in with an off topic post, which is why typically conversations lead to arguments.
Stay on topic or leave, please.
comment by Yiddo80 (U1081)
posted 1 minute ago
How is Allen pulled when Dier's palm is open the whole time? No way was it a penalty, Allen's theatrics proved that.
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You can be pulled with an open palm though...
Your world does, the world doesn't.
Move on mate. was a pen even though Allen made a meal of it
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Exactly Jordan
If you come from the side or the back and put pressure with your hand on the opponent to break their momentum that is a pull.
What your hand is doing is irrelevant.
Why did Dier reach for Allen at all if he wasn't trying to impede his run?
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posted on 1/9/14
it was a penalty, relax and move on
posted on 1/9/14
Let me throw this into the mix Adebayor was man handled his jersey was pulled by Lovren late on yet no penalty it is not sour grapes on my part because Liverpool played well they are a quality team but the Allen penalty changed the course of the game for us now are referees cheats or sheer incompetent I would like to believe the latter.
posted on 1/9/14
Contact does not equate a foul.
For example a good full bloody challenge that's a genuine attempt to win the ball but takes the man completely is fine and not a foul but if there's no attempt to directly win the ball and the defender resorts to pulling on the arm of the attack it's illegally trying to stop the player therefore it's a foul.
posted on 1/9/14
Sir Robert Paisley (U3823)
I'm discussing an incident from the weekend.
The world doesn't revolve around Liverpool.
posted on 1/9/14
If anyone can, Emre Can... (U3979)
So as soon as the defender touches the forward, it's a foul?
That's effectively what you're saying, and you are wrong.
posted on 1/9/14
Touching a player isn't a foul.
Pulling him back to impede him is a foul.
It's very simple.
The fact he let go quick doesn't excuse that he out his arm out and pulled him back.
He wasn't trying to dance with him.
posted on 1/9/14
Winston you aren't reading my comment.
If you touch the player and win the ball of course it's not a foul. If you touch the player and don't win the ball but impede the player then it is a foul.
posted on 1/9/14
righteous1 (U7048)
He didn't pull him.
There was no grab, he didn't hold his shirt, his arm or his body.
So how did he pull him, exactly?
With the power of thought?
posted on 1/9/14
so was the one on ade a pen then righteous...!?
posted on 1/9/14
If anyone can, Emre Can... (U3979)
You've just made that up and it's not how the laws work.
Besides, he wasn't impeded.
That's the whole point.
posted on 1/9/14
He was impeded!
You can't pull people back in the box and get away with it end of story.
posted on 1/9/14
I didn't see the one on ade as I haven't watched all of the game
If he was pulled back then yes it was
posted on 1/9/14
If anyone can, Emre Can... (U3979)
He wasn't impeded.
And he didn't pull him.
You've convinced yourself that it was a pen, but let me assure you, you are wrong.
It's actually unbelievable that people are even debating this.
posted on 1/9/14
Winston is obsessed with Liverpool players, and our manager, just check his article history
He wouldn't be writing this article if Allen still played for Swansea.
He won't admit that obviously
posted on 1/9/14
How is Allen pulled when Dier's palm is open the whole time? No way was it a penalty, Allen's theatrics proved that.
posted on 1/9/14
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posted on 1/9/14
Surely the point is that Dier was really stupid. We all know Liverpool players through themselves to the ground every chance they get in the penalty area. So why grab his shirt whatever the contact was he was going to go down and then the ref has to make a decision.
Hopefully Dier will learn but yesterday was a bad day for him.
posted on 1/9/14
righteous1 (U7048)
Yes, that's right.
The world revolves around Liverpool and their players.
God forbid anyone create an article about a major talking point from the weekend.
Whatever next, on a football forum?
posted on 1/9/14
Greatteamswinit4times-I'mdogmatic 27/4 (U6008)
You are someone that comes on my threads and criticises the way I post.
Well, here's an example of you jumping straight in with an off topic post, which is why typically conversations lead to arguments.
Stay on topic or leave, please.
posted on 1/9/14
comment by Yiddo80 (U1081)
posted 1 minute ago
How is Allen pulled when Dier's palm is open the whole time? No way was it a penalty, Allen's theatrics proved that.
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You can be pulled with an open palm though...
posted on 1/9/14
Your world does, the world doesn't.
posted on 1/9/14
Move on mate. was a pen even though Allen made a meal of it
posted on 1/9/14
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posted on 1/9/14
Exactly Jordan
If you come from the side or the back and put pressure with your hand on the opponent to break their momentum that is a pull.
What your hand is doing is irrelevant.
Why did Dier reach for Allen at all if he wasn't trying to impede his run?
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