Hello My Name Is Ramsey
What match were you watching? Have you given any consideration to the quality of the opposition?
BTW Chelsea will run scared when they Man utd if we got Di Maria Herrera Falcao all fit. Last time Falcao played against Chelsea he scored 3 and could have had 6 or 7 and that was against park the bus di matteo's chelsea in supercup.
I know exactly how you feel op. So gutted I woke up in the middle of the night lol. It was the manner of the defeat, I went to this fixture a few years and it was exactly the same: We look the better team look like we are about to score, one moment of briliiance and we conceed. Then we constantly try to get the equaliser and are contained before the inevitable sucker punch second goal. The thing is, I dont think there is any need to change our tactics against Maureen, we would have beaten them if we had taken our chances but players like Wilshere and Ozil bottled it at big moments.
The ref was pretty poor yesterday but he was poor for both sides. Yes Cahill should have been sent off and cesc handball was 100% a penalty but then Kos should have seen red. Pure and simple a big part of what decided the game was their big players showed up and ours didnt. Compare Hazards unreal run that earnt the pen compared to Wilshere's hopeless touch a few minutes after: if he controls that easy pass then he either has a one on one or slips it to Welbeck who would have had an open goal. Ozil was pretty hopeless and should have been subbed off for Ox early doors.
When the disappointment fades a bit we will see that a loss at stamford bridge is not going to define our season, and many teams will lose there. Remember even City at home only just got a point against this team. The game was extrememly tight and was decided by tiny moments that could have gone a either way.At the moment though, its horrible
op
I think I was so positive we would get a result...
What thought process did you have to come to that conclusion?
Has there been a difference in mindset or playing staff to make you think that Chelsea at the Bridge was a game where Wenger would outthink a man who has had him in his back pocket consistly since he came to England
If anyone mentions the game to me today I might be sacked by the end of the day or arrested for GBH
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The ref was pretty poor yesterday but he was poor for both sides. Yes Cahill should have been sent off and cesc handball was 100% a penalty but then Kos should have seen red. Pure and simple a big part of what decided the game was their big players showed up and ours didnt. Compare Hazards unreal run that earnt the pen compared to Wilshere's hopeless touch a few minutes after: if he controls that easy pass then he either has a one on one or slips it to Welbeck who would have had an open goal. Ozil was pretty hopeless and should have been subbed off for Ox early doors.
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Wilshere was our second best player after Cazorla. I dont know why you think he was poor.
The thing with referee decision was that at the point he should have send of Cahill we would have go on with one man more. Would have the incident with Kos happened? Dont know.
The other incident with the handballing surely would have earned us a point at Stamford if the ref would have given that. So all in all we didnt get the decisions. Hey but this is Stamford.
comment by Admiral Ozil is my new favourite Star Wars character (U10178)
posted 50 minutes ago
I think fans if most if those clubs can say similar but include arsenal in that list ahead of their own. If we can shore up a bit then I think it will be yourselves and Liverpool battling for 4th personally. Your top 4 challenge could rely on other teams being poor as opposed to you being very good. Same could go for us or Liverpool tbh though.
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I would say we will get better and considering we have played 4 of the 6 from last season and while not playing well we have lost only at probably the toughest away game in the entire season. United won't improve in defence until they buy some decent defenders I don't see Liverpool improving that much in fact there defence is worse now than last season. If at some point we can put out our strongest side that will make a big difference.
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It's easy to forget that both us and Liverpool have also struggled to put out a strongest team, Arsenal aren't the only ones. We have been hit horribly by injuries, particularity in defence which has led to fielding an almost constantly different back line.
I would hazard a guess that Liverpool fans will also feel confident their performances will improve and I know I am about ours. The midfield is improved and going forward we have a lot of quality. We do need to get stability at the back and if we do, we are in as good a position to get 3rd or 4th as any.
Gunnerthru
It also should be noted that one of our best performers yesterday was Flamini, who has received his fair share (some deserved) of stick recently.
"We didn't play well ffs, we didn't trouble chelsea's once throughout 90 mins, defensively we were average there was no collective effort at the back, players getting beaten on one-on-ones too often"
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Perhaps it says something about the way we are and our mindset in regardsa to this team but I can't help but agree 100% with this. I thought we were awful, as we have been for most of the season. The thing that left me massively disappointed was that Chelsea were woeful too yet we couldn't even do enough to earn ourselves a draw in the manner you'd want a good team to.
Tough match for sure and I didn't expect much from the game, but given how it went and how poor Chelsea were, points were there for the taking.
Not sure why the OP is so down or why he thought we might win this game...
this game was lost when the fixtures were announced in August.....
I would have thought that games against City Chelsea and Man utd, certainly away from home, were times when you just simply knew Arsenal would lose....
just look at AW record of the last few years in these fixtures...
what is depressing is seeing the same story unfold when you know its going to happen, and could be stopped by better tactics, a better DCM and having fabregas in our team and not theirs...
I could say more, but you get the general idea...
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 3 minutes ago
Gunnerthru
It also should be noted that one of our best performers yesterday was Flamini, who has received his fair share (some deserved) of stick recently.
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Agree with you on Flamini. He did a good job yesterday. Thought that Cazorla stood out and Jack had a decent game as well.
comment by Herbie (U7136)
posted 2 minutes ago
"We didn't play well ffs, we didn't trouble chelsea's once throughout 90 mins, defensively we were average there was no collective effort at the back, players getting beaten on one-on-ones too often"
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Perhaps it says something about the way we are and our mindset in regardsa to this team but I can't help but agree 100% with this. I thought we were awful, as we have been for most of the season. The thing that left me massively disappointed was that Chelsea were woeful too yet we couldn't even do enough to earn ourselves a draw in the manner you'd want a good team to.
Tough match for sure and I didn't expect much from the game, but given how it went and how poor Chelsea were, points were there for the taking.
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Disagree with you Herbie. Our performance was allright. We didnt create much that is true. Did Chelsea?
Gunnerthru
Can’t understand why AW persevered with Ozil. Took Santi off instead who was having a good game.
Probably would not have affected the result but IMO Ozil needs to ‘beef up’ a bit as something afoot when the likes of Fabregas were outmuscling him.
comment by Herbie (U7136)
posted 8 minutes ago
"We didn't play well ffs, we didn't trouble chelsea's once throughout 90 mins, defensively we were average there was no collective effort at the back, players getting beaten on one-on-ones too often"
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Perhaps it says something about the way we are and our mindset in regardsa to this team but I can't help but agree 100% with this. I thought we were awful, as we have been for most of the season. The thing that left me massively disappointed was that Chelsea were woeful too yet we couldn't even do enough to earn ourselves a draw in the manner you'd want a good team to.
Tough match for sure and I didn't expect much from the game, but given how it went and how poor Chelsea were, points were there for the taking.
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Why do you keep saying Chelsea were poor? They played their tactics exceptionally, every player took their rare chances when they came e.g Hazard, Cesc Costa. They prevented us from having a shot on goal. This was probably their best performance this season.
The whole point of why Maureen keeps beating Wenger is that he knows the exact tactic to nullify us and his players played that role exceptionally. We were never in a million years going to see the swash buckling Chelsea we see against the smaller teams, they set up to play a certain way yesterday.
Name one Chelsea player who played poorly yesterday?
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 28 minutes ago
The ref was pretty poor yesterday but he was poor for both sides. Yes Cahill should have been sent off and cesc handball was 100% a penalty but then Kos should have seen red. Pure and simple a big part of what decided the game was their big players showed up and ours didnt. Compare Hazards unreal run that earnt the pen compared to Wilshere's hopeless touch a few minutes after: if he controls that easy pass then he either has a one on one or slips it to Welbeck who would have had an open goal. Ozil was pretty hopeless and should have been subbed off for Ox early doors.
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Wilshere was our second best player after Cazorla. I dont know why you think he was poor.
The thing with referee decision was that at the point he should have send of Cahill we would have go on with one man more. Would have the incident with Kos happened? Dont know.
The other incident with the handballing surely would have earned us a point at Stamford if the ref would have given that. So all in all we didnt get the decisions. Hey but this is Stamford.
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Its all well and good saying Jack was one of our best players because he did some nice stuff, but the pure and simple truth his, he fluffed his lines and bottled with his one or two big moments. He was in a key position so there was no room for error in a match where chances are at a premium. Think of it like this: if he controls the pass that footballers control 95 times out of 100 then we equalise and its a completly different game, probably result and we are having different convesations today. At this level one mistake is one too many. You wouldnt say our keeper had a good game if he made one mistake which cost us a goal so why do it with Jack. He failed to man up when it counted.
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 13 minutes ago
Gunnerthru
Can’t understand why AW persevered with Ozil. Took Santi off instead who was having a good game.
Probably would not have affected the result but IMO Ozil needs to ‘beef up’ a bit as something afoot when the likes of Fabregas were outmuscling him.
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Agree with you again.
Our subs were bizarre. Did it have an influence? Dont think so.
Özil was poor yesterday, probably our weakest player yesterday. Fabregas wasnt as affective as in other games. That was because our midfield had him under control for most of the game. To control Fabregas means to control Costa which we did quite well. You cant control players on that level for the whole game though as the second goal showed. Dont think this goal was decisive. The first goal hit us more in my view. But we did well with the situation but we created little and were unlucky with refs decisions.
Its all well and good saying Jack was one of our best players because he did some nice stuff, but the pure and simple truth his, he fluffed his lines and bottled with his one or two big moments. He was in a key position so there was no room for error in a match where chances are at a premium. Think of it like this: if he controls the pass that footballers control 95 times out of 100 then we equalise and its a completly different game, probably result and we are having different convesations today. At this level one mistake is one too many. You wouldnt say our keeper had a good game if he made one mistake which cost us a goal so why do it with Jack. He failed to man up when it counted.
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I can see what you point is to be fair and have difficulties to argue against your points. On the other hand Jack didnt hide and some really good moments.
The Godfather
As football players are not mass-produced by Cyberdyne Systems they, on occasion, are subject to judgments of error and mistakes.
However on balance over the whole match JW did have a decent game.
Chelsea weren't poor, they were just solid and that's all it takes to contain our attacks and create chances.
We use a slow overpassing build up play every season, it never works against good organised sides, wenger has to change things up or walk away from the job
Chelsea weren't poor, they were just solid and that's all it takes to contain our attacks and create chances.
They didnt created anything. One brilliant moment from Hazard changed the game. We created more than Chelsea but we didnt have an end product or our final pass wasnt accurate enough. Chelsea is an effective team. They showed that yesterday and they showed that at the Ethiad Stadium against City as well. This game against City was comparable to ours yesterday.
"Disagree with you Herbie. Our performance was allright. We didnt create much that is true. Did Chelsea?"
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I did say Chelsea were woeful, GT. I thought both teams were, hence the reason my disappointment in coming away with nothing was as defined as it was. We should, bar the usual moronic moments that litter almost every one of our big game displays, have easily come away with this with a draw. at 0-1 we did pretty much the same thing as we did at 0-0 hence the reason we were so tepid as an attacking unit. Still playing for the 0-0 draw at 0-1. Ridiculous.
To be frank Arsene set up the team well! I would have started ox instead of Ozil but other than that we actually overpowered Chelsea in midfield giving our defence a rare quiet game against a big side!
I don't necessarily think Chelsea deliberately sat back from the first whistle! Once they saw the influence of Santi and Jack they opted for a more patient approach which they can play easily. Eventually Hazard who also had a quiet game took the game away from us.
Will be interesting to see if Chelsea will lose a big game this season.
For a change we at least kept their defenders on their toes despite not creating much.
Jack was marvelous to watch at certain points, he along with welbeck understood what Chelsea were trying to do and wanted to force the issue.
We could have done with Ramsey yesterday but we will get better.
"Why do you keep saying Chelsea were poor?"
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Because they were. They nullified us well, but as an attacking force they were crap. They created pretty much nothing, like us. Two teams nullified each other and were poor for it.
I know exactly why Mourinho continuously beats Wenger, but Chelsea didn't have to be good yesterday to get the win.
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 36 minutes ago
The Godfather
As football players are not mass-produced by Cyberdyne Systems they, on occasion, are subject to judgments of error and mistakes.
However on balance over the whole match JW did have a decent game.
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That wasnt a mistake as such, it was more 'bottling' than anything else. Wilshere is a professional footballer known for his touch and control yet at the most important moment for him yesterday he controlled it worse than me or you.
As I said, its all well and good saying he had some nice moments and therefore a good game, but the truth is at the key match defining moments he didnt step up to the occasion whilst the likes of Hazard and Costa did.
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posted on 6/10/14
Hello My Name Is Ramsey
What match were you watching? Have you given any consideration to the quality of the opposition?
posted on 6/10/14
BTW Chelsea will run scared when they Man utd if we got Di Maria Herrera Falcao all fit. Last time Falcao played against Chelsea he scored 3 and could have had 6 or 7 and that was against park the bus di matteo's chelsea in supercup.
posted on 6/10/14
I know exactly how you feel op. So gutted I woke up in the middle of the night lol. It was the manner of the defeat, I went to this fixture a few years and it was exactly the same: We look the better team look like we are about to score, one moment of briliiance and we conceed. Then we constantly try to get the equaliser and are contained before the inevitable sucker punch second goal. The thing is, I dont think there is any need to change our tactics against Maureen, we would have beaten them if we had taken our chances but players like Wilshere and Ozil bottled it at big moments.
The ref was pretty poor yesterday but he was poor for both sides. Yes Cahill should have been sent off and cesc handball was 100% a penalty but then Kos should have seen red. Pure and simple a big part of what decided the game was their big players showed up and ours didnt. Compare Hazards unreal run that earnt the pen compared to Wilshere's hopeless touch a few minutes after: if he controls that easy pass then he either has a one on one or slips it to Welbeck who would have had an open goal. Ozil was pretty hopeless and should have been subbed off for Ox early doors.
When the disappointment fades a bit we will see that a loss at stamford bridge is not going to define our season, and many teams will lose there. Remember even City at home only just got a point against this team. The game was extrememly tight and was decided by tiny moments that could have gone a either way.At the moment though, its horrible
posted on 6/10/14
op
I think I was so positive we would get a result...
What thought process did you have to come to that conclusion?
Has there been a difference in mindset or playing staff to make you think that Chelsea at the Bridge was a game where Wenger would outthink a man who has had him in his back pocket consistly since he came to England
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If anyone mentions the game to me today I might be sacked by the end of the day or arrested for GBH
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posted on 6/10/14
The ref was pretty poor yesterday but he was poor for both sides. Yes Cahill should have been sent off and cesc handball was 100% a penalty but then Kos should have seen red. Pure and simple a big part of what decided the game was their big players showed up and ours didnt. Compare Hazards unreal run that earnt the pen compared to Wilshere's hopeless touch a few minutes after: if he controls that easy pass then he either has a one on one or slips it to Welbeck who would have had an open goal. Ozil was pretty hopeless and should have been subbed off for Ox early doors.
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Wilshere was our second best player after Cazorla. I dont know why you think he was poor.
The thing with referee decision was that at the point he should have send of Cahill we would have go on with one man more. Would have the incident with Kos happened? Dont know.
The other incident with the handballing surely would have earned us a point at Stamford if the ref would have given that. So all in all we didnt get the decisions. Hey but this is Stamford.
posted on 6/10/14
comment by Admiral Ozil is my new favourite Star Wars character (U10178)
posted 50 minutes ago
I think fans if most if those clubs can say similar but include arsenal in that list ahead of their own. If we can shore up a bit then I think it will be yourselves and Liverpool battling for 4th personally. Your top 4 challenge could rely on other teams being poor as opposed to you being very good. Same could go for us or Liverpool tbh though.
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I would say we will get better and considering we have played 4 of the 6 from last season and while not playing well we have lost only at probably the toughest away game in the entire season. United won't improve in defence until they buy some decent defenders I don't see Liverpool improving that much in fact there defence is worse now than last season. If at some point we can put out our strongest side that will make a big difference.
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It's easy to forget that both us and Liverpool have also struggled to put out a strongest team, Arsenal aren't the only ones. We have been hit horribly by injuries, particularity in defence which has led to fielding an almost constantly different back line.
I would hazard a guess that Liverpool fans will also feel confident their performances will improve and I know I am about ours. The midfield is improved and going forward we have a lot of quality. We do need to get stability at the back and if we do, we are in as good a position to get 3rd or 4th as any.
posted on 6/10/14
Gunnerthru
It also should be noted that one of our best performers yesterday was Flamini, who has received his fair share (some deserved) of stick recently.
posted on 6/10/14
"We didn't play well ffs, we didn't trouble chelsea's once throughout 90 mins, defensively we were average there was no collective effort at the back, players getting beaten on one-on-ones too often"
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Perhaps it says something about the way we are and our mindset in regardsa to this team but I can't help but agree 100% with this. I thought we were awful, as we have been for most of the season. The thing that left me massively disappointed was that Chelsea were woeful too yet we couldn't even do enough to earn ourselves a draw in the manner you'd want a good team to.
Tough match for sure and I didn't expect much from the game, but given how it went and how poor Chelsea were, points were there for the taking.
posted on 6/10/14
Not sure why the OP is so down or why he thought we might win this game...
this game was lost when the fixtures were announced in August.....
I would have thought that games against City Chelsea and Man utd, certainly away from home, were times when you just simply knew Arsenal would lose....
just look at AW record of the last few years in these fixtures...
what is depressing is seeing the same story unfold when you know its going to happen, and could be stopped by better tactics, a better DCM and having fabregas in our team and not theirs...
I could say more, but you get the general idea...
posted on 6/10/14
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 3 minutes ago
Gunnerthru
It also should be noted that one of our best performers yesterday was Flamini, who has received his fair share (some deserved) of stick recently.
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Agree with you on Flamini. He did a good job yesterday. Thought that Cazorla stood out and Jack had a decent game as well.
posted on 6/10/14
comment by Herbie (U7136)
posted 2 minutes ago
"We didn't play well ffs, we didn't trouble chelsea's once throughout 90 mins, defensively we were average there was no collective effort at the back, players getting beaten on one-on-ones too often"
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Perhaps it says something about the way we are and our mindset in regardsa to this team but I can't help but agree 100% with this. I thought we were awful, as we have been for most of the season. The thing that left me massively disappointed was that Chelsea were woeful too yet we couldn't even do enough to earn ourselves a draw in the manner you'd want a good team to.
Tough match for sure and I didn't expect much from the game, but given how it went and how poor Chelsea were, points were there for the taking.
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Disagree with you Herbie. Our performance was allright. We didnt create much that is true. Did Chelsea?
posted on 6/10/14
Gunnerthru
Can’t understand why AW persevered with Ozil. Took Santi off instead who was having a good game.
Probably would not have affected the result but IMO Ozil needs to ‘beef up’ a bit as something afoot when the likes of Fabregas were outmuscling him.
posted on 6/10/14
comment by Herbie (U7136)
posted 8 minutes ago
"We didn't play well ffs, we didn't trouble chelsea's once throughout 90 mins, defensively we were average there was no collective effort at the back, players getting beaten on one-on-ones too often"
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Perhaps it says something about the way we are and our mindset in regardsa to this team but I can't help but agree 100% with this. I thought we were awful, as we have been for most of the season. The thing that left me massively disappointed was that Chelsea were woeful too yet we couldn't even do enough to earn ourselves a draw in the manner you'd want a good team to.
Tough match for sure and I didn't expect much from the game, but given how it went and how poor Chelsea were, points were there for the taking.
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Why do you keep saying Chelsea were poor? They played their tactics exceptionally, every player took their rare chances when they came e.g Hazard, Cesc Costa. They prevented us from having a shot on goal. This was probably their best performance this season.
The whole point of why Maureen keeps beating Wenger is that he knows the exact tactic to nullify us and his players played that role exceptionally. We were never in a million years going to see the swash buckling Chelsea we see against the smaller teams, they set up to play a certain way yesterday.
Name one Chelsea player who played poorly yesterday?
posted on 6/10/14
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 28 minutes ago
The ref was pretty poor yesterday but he was poor for both sides. Yes Cahill should have been sent off and cesc handball was 100% a penalty but then Kos should have seen red. Pure and simple a big part of what decided the game was their big players showed up and ours didnt. Compare Hazards unreal run that earnt the pen compared to Wilshere's hopeless touch a few minutes after: if he controls that easy pass then he either has a one on one or slips it to Welbeck who would have had an open goal. Ozil was pretty hopeless and should have been subbed off for Ox early doors.
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Wilshere was our second best player after Cazorla. I dont know why you think he was poor.
The thing with referee decision was that at the point he should have send of Cahill we would have go on with one man more. Would have the incident with Kos happened? Dont know.
The other incident with the handballing surely would have earned us a point at Stamford if the ref would have given that. So all in all we didnt get the decisions. Hey but this is Stamford.
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Its all well and good saying Jack was one of our best players because he did some nice stuff, but the pure and simple truth his, he fluffed his lines and bottled with his one or two big moments. He was in a key position so there was no room for error in a match where chances are at a premium. Think of it like this: if he controls the pass that footballers control 95 times out of 100 then we equalise and its a completly different game, probably result and we are having different convesations today. At this level one mistake is one too many. You wouldnt say our keeper had a good game if he made one mistake which cost us a goal so why do it with Jack. He failed to man up when it counted.
posted on 6/10/14
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 13 minutes ago
Gunnerthru
Can’t understand why AW persevered with Ozil. Took Santi off instead who was having a good game.
Probably would not have affected the result but IMO Ozil needs to ‘beef up’ a bit as something afoot when the likes of Fabregas were outmuscling him.
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Agree with you again.
Our subs were bizarre. Did it have an influence? Dont think so.
Özil was poor yesterday, probably our weakest player yesterday. Fabregas wasnt as affective as in other games. That was because our midfield had him under control for most of the game. To control Fabregas means to control Costa which we did quite well. You cant control players on that level for the whole game though as the second goal showed. Dont think this goal was decisive. The first goal hit us more in my view. But we did well with the situation but we created little and were unlucky with refs decisions.
posted on 6/10/14
Its all well and good saying Jack was one of our best players because he did some nice stuff, but the pure and simple truth his, he fluffed his lines and bottled with his one or two big moments. He was in a key position so there was no room for error in a match where chances are at a premium. Think of it like this: if he controls the pass that footballers control 95 times out of 100 then we equalise and its a completly different game, probably result and we are having different convesations today. At this level one mistake is one too many. You wouldnt say our keeper had a good game if he made one mistake which cost us a goal so why do it with Jack. He failed to man up when it counted.
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I can see what you point is to be fair and have difficulties to argue against your points. On the other hand Jack didnt hide and some really good moments.
posted on 6/10/14
The Godfather
As football players are not mass-produced by Cyberdyne Systems they, on occasion, are subject to judgments of error and mistakes.
However on balance over the whole match JW did have a decent game.
posted on 6/10/14
Chelsea weren't poor, they were just solid and that's all it takes to contain our attacks and create chances.
We use a slow overpassing build up play every season, it never works against good organised sides, wenger has to change things up or walk away from the job
posted on 6/10/14
Chelsea weren't poor, they were just solid and that's all it takes to contain our attacks and create chances.
They didnt created anything. One brilliant moment from Hazard changed the game. We created more than Chelsea but we didnt have an end product or our final pass wasnt accurate enough. Chelsea is an effective team. They showed that yesterday and they showed that at the Ethiad Stadium against City as well. This game against City was comparable to ours yesterday.
posted on 6/10/14
*didnt create (sorry)
posted on 6/10/14
"Disagree with you Herbie. Our performance was allright. We didnt create much that is true. Did Chelsea?"
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I did say Chelsea were woeful, GT. I thought both teams were, hence the reason my disappointment in coming away with nothing was as defined as it was. We should, bar the usual moronic moments that litter almost every one of our big game displays, have easily come away with this with a draw. at 0-1 we did pretty much the same thing as we did at 0-0 hence the reason we were so tepid as an attacking unit. Still playing for the 0-0 draw at 0-1. Ridiculous.
posted on 6/10/14
To be frank Arsene set up the team well! I would have started ox instead of Ozil but other than that we actually overpowered Chelsea in midfield giving our defence a rare quiet game against a big side!
I don't necessarily think Chelsea deliberately sat back from the first whistle! Once they saw the influence of Santi and Jack they opted for a more patient approach which they can play easily. Eventually Hazard who also had a quiet game took the game away from us.
Will be interesting to see if Chelsea will lose a big game this season.
For a change we at least kept their defenders on their toes despite not creating much.
Jack was marvelous to watch at certain points, he along with welbeck understood what Chelsea were trying to do and wanted to force the issue.
We could have done with Ramsey yesterday but we will get better.
posted on 6/10/14
"Why do you keep saying Chelsea were poor?"
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Because they were. They nullified us well, but as an attacking force they were crap. They created pretty much nothing, like us. Two teams nullified each other and were poor for it.
I know exactly why Mourinho continuously beats Wenger, but Chelsea didn't have to be good yesterday to get the win.
posted on 6/10/14
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 36 minutes ago
The Godfather
As football players are not mass-produced by Cyberdyne Systems they, on occasion, are subject to judgments of error and mistakes.
However on balance over the whole match JW did have a decent game.
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That wasnt a mistake as such, it was more 'bottling' than anything else. Wilshere is a professional footballer known for his touch and control yet at the most important moment for him yesterday he controlled it worse than me or you.
As I said, its all well and good saying he had some nice moments and therefore a good game, but the truth is at the key match defining moments he didnt step up to the occasion whilst the likes of Hazard and Costa did.
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