Defending Ashley

The bottom line is that if that cant wasn't ripping us off in the first place, we wouldn;t need the fooking £8m....

How the fook a team coming up the Scottish Lower Leagues can't survive on our gate receipts alone is beyond me.
It's been nothing but chancers and leeches at Ibrox since Murray left and I'm sick of all these cants!!

"You are actually advocating we buy MORE merchandise thereby lining Ashley's pockets even more"

I am advocating buying more merch so the club actually makes a profit from retial and not a loss.

I am advocating that the $hitty retal deal exsits, and if stock is not sold, teh club still has to pay for it, so Ashley's pockets are going to get lined anyway.

As with King, as what point does " not lining folks pockets" become a lesser priority than seeing the club lose money while the folk we despise still take a wad???

Same argument, time and time and time again..."dont line their pockets"....some of us still want to see a team on the park regardless of how much someone is making from their exploits.

Having a club is far more important to me than how much of a cut Mr Ashley or anyone else is taking of the money put forward by the fans of it

Not buying fck all will bury the club completely

"Lets get two things straight here on this type of deal; firstly, Ashley will get a big fat sum if we sell ZERO merchandise; secondly, any upper target where we get a bigger slice will be unachievable"

While the club will have to pay Sports Direct a fortune for all the stock thats still sitting in the shops unsold, meaning Sports Direct wont make a penny, but the club will lose fcking millions!!!!!

SPR.....this deal will kill the club. I cannot , under any circumstances, support it. Once again the clubs supporters are expected to stump up and it really grips my shxt that people who contribute nothing to the club are advocating we should continue to buy merchandise.

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Don't think anyone is actually reading what im explaining.

I give up on this crap

And if the club starts to lose , these guys may just sell ! They have to know that the supporters will not continue to shell out to keep them in a lifestyle. Buying more is not the answer.

SPR...I'm reading what your writing. But, I firmly believe that these guys are at Ibrox purely to rip the pash out of us financially. To continue to buy merchandise is to play their game. To stop buying will cost the club but that will impact on 90% of the shareholders who may just then decide to bail out. We need to force these guys out not give them reasons to stay.

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Curly...26% of the turnover is players wages. That is probably the lowest in UK. As you say, where's the rest going. We. Can't continue to support this lot . We need to reduce their profit , it'll be sore but it needs to be done. To continue as we are will only put us in a position where we could lose a generation of supporters who are sick and tired of the whole scene.

SPR I think it's a commonly held opinion that King would like an insolvency event. That might be not a bad thing if the onerous contracts can be ripped up.

However my understanding is that they would survive admin but not liquidation.

The idea of starting again for a second time might appear unpalatable but long term it might be the best solution.

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Irvine.....I think you're right, these contracts would survive admin. But, what's to stop Letham buying a shed load of shares in any new issue thereby strengthening his/ Kings hold on the club ? I think most agree that King messed up by not buying shares albeit for the right reasons. Surely this would be a way back into the game?

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Simply put, the Vampire bat does not kill it's victim, but will continue to return and feed from it, I guess we're not the bat

I just can't see King buying shares with the current regime in place. Everything he has said and done up to now would support that view.

"I will not be back if we admin again"

See this is what I dont get form you Curly

You endorse activities like not buying merchandise that may force the club into admin, but then say if we go into admin you wont be back??

Eh???

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King getting control would require a very significant shift in position from the shareholders that Easdale holds proxy for. I just don't see it.

The spivs have it tied up tight, what's in it for them allowing King in?

The good of the club? They don't care about the club.

"What I don't understand is those that do not financially support the club telling those that do that it will be there fault if the club goes down"

Again, I will reiterate the point I have only ever made.

People, like yourself, are free to make their own choices.

I just hope they fully understand what the consequnces may well be.

As for myself, i will continue to buy strips, buy merch, both for myself and others, becasue I believe starving teh club of cash could be far more damaging to it in the long run than lining people's pockets for a little longer.

On top of that, if the club gets to the top teir, and people's pockets are still getting lined, it would take a few years of us not performing on the pitch to a decent level before I would get sick and tired of the club being run to line people's pockets and not win trophies on the pitch.

What I am not prepared to do, is advocate a push for adminstration through boycotts and the like, when despite the $hite fitba, we are still marching up the leagues, we still have a club, we can all still go along and watch games.

I'm not prepared to advocate a push for administration, when Mike Ashley has only had his own man in place for 5 mins, and signifcant change under him has not yet been seen, if it is indeed going to happen.

What I am not willing to do, is advocate a push for admin, just so a man who spouts plenty in the papers but may not be the best person to lead us forward, has a better chance of getting control.

Am I happy with how the club is beign run, o, of course I am not.

But is our current predicament worth risking the clubs future over, just to prove some sort of point, get other people in charge, get rid of the guys we dont like sooner rather than later......not for me its not.

For those that think it is, I make the same point I made months ago....I hope you realise what the consequences of activities that may bring admin on quicker may mean, thats all I have said, anyone that wnats to take umbridge at that, take it personally, and think I'm endorsing the board through saying as much or putting them down somehow, can do so, but thats not what I am doing

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"50% of something is better than 0% of nothing"

I put the same argument to people deciding to stop buying merchandise.

If you spend £40 in the shop, you still get £40 worth or merch for yourself.

The club is getting a $hitty deal from the retail side, but a profit is still a profit, and a bigger profit is better than making a loss.

Whats more important??

The club making money through the merch you buy or the club making a huge loss just so some spiv doesnt get as much in his pocket??

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