Kant !

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"I am doing what you are currently doing, I am putting fack all of my money into that club"

Again, you keep levelling this at me, just because I dont own a season ticket or shares

I go to matches and I buy merch Curly, plenty other fans are in the same boat as me, and they are still fans.

None of that makes me any less of a fan, nor does you losing patience with things make you any less of a fan.

I know what I want for this club, and I express my views.

You say you dont give a fook...when you clearly do!

Stop taking things so fcking personally.

You dotn want admin to come as it wil be the straw that break the camels back, yet support an action that may bring that very thing on a lot quicker than continuing on as usual.

I fcking know that plenty worse has been done int he boardroom, but the reason for the boycoot is to push for admin and starve those in the baord room out, if there is any other point to the boycott, then plese tell me what it is, if this si the only goa of teh boycott, and you support it, then you support a push for admin while you dont want to see another admin.

This is what you are saying, I'm simply trying to point that out and ask what your reason is for dong that, and yer getting all defensive, calling me stupid and coming out the with the "you put fck all in" argument yet again.

Sorry if I hit a nerve, but fck me, thats some chip you have on yer shoulder!!

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The reason for a boycott is to push for admin...........
Says who ? Surely the reason for any boycott would be to deprive Sports Direct of money that should be Rangers' !
Surely the reason is to force spivs to reconsider their position, to force them to ask themselves if it's worth the hassle and sell up and pash off. No one but no one wants admin so why do you continually rant about it. It won't happen, the Board would be bound to seek money from alternative sources well before it was a possibility.

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Correct Zachs but try explaining that to Stevie who appeases Ashley at every cut and turn.

Coop, simple question

Could the boycott bring admin on quicker??

A simple yes or no will do

"It won't happen, the Board would be bound to seek money from alternative sources well before it was a possibility."

Two simple questions on this

1) What would these additional sources be and
could taking money from the club elsewhere be any worse than a huge cut of the retail profits not going to the club?

2) How do you know admin would not happen??

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Yes, admin could be avoided if they were not doing that.

Whats more likely tho??

Coop himself said they would look to get their cut from other sources, that could be anything.

I'm sorry, but I just dont advocate pi$$ing Mike Ashley off just so he stops taking our retail profits, if the alternatives could be any one of admin, Ibrox being lost, Murray Park getting hawked, the team being worse than it already is.....

I'd much rather he took my money, I got my top, and all these things didnt happen.....buying merch wont force an action from the board, a boycott is much more likely to do that

I dont ask anyone to agree with me, I only put my point forward, get called a dumbfck, a board lover and all sorts, so I stand my ground, it aint my fault at all that you and coop dont fcking like it one bit, dont fcking respond if my views pi$$ you off that much

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"So because it is unlikely that the spivs will stop taking money ouit the club then the fans should continue to keep putting money in?"

Erm...no

I'm saying its far more likely we will go into administration before the spivs stop taking a cut and walk away.

While we are stuck with them, I advocate buying merchandise so Mike Ashley at least gets his cut form a source of income that doesnt put vital club assets at risk.

Sports Direct took £3m from the club, a further £8m is being lost by the club. If we stop buying merch, its a bit of a drop in the ocean in terms of the money being taken out the club by those in charge, and it puts other things at risk other than fans money for shirts.

So you away and throw schite at the moon and stop coming out with your "I put more in than you" argument when its completely fcking irrelevant to the pnt I am making.

As much as you say I'm not entitled to say fck all, I am allowed a viewpoint and I am only expressing it, its you thats taking the cream puff over it, grow up FFS

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Stevie...No !

I am not telling anyone what to do, that is the whole fcking point, I simply disagree with the boycott action.

Where have I sat here and told you, get off yer ar$e, get into the shops and by a top...show me that, go on!!

Nor am I using emotional blackmail on fcking anyone, hence I reiterate the pont tht you are taking things so fcking personally its no real.

I do not agree with the boycott
I think we should continue buying merch as the boycott could make things worse

This is the only point made

You are sitting saying thats me dictating to others and using emtional blackmail to make them feel bad about their choice...bollox it is.

If I ask someone why they want to boycott, all I expect is their reasons and if I dont agree with their reasons, I will put my point forward as to why I disagree, they are more than welcome to counter that if they wish and put me in my place, and I'd like to be put in my place with a well thought out pint rather than "fck off your no a season ticket holder, I dnt answer to you, yer just a stupid cvnt".....aye nae bother, doesnt answer the fcking question tho does it??

Saying the boycott could bring on admin quicker isnt emotional blackmail in the slightest, I hate to point this out, but its a fcking FACT Curly, one I want to stress to people who support that action, who come across as negligent to that fact..."oh it wont happen" how the fck do you now that??

I dont blame fans like you for the state our club is in, I blame those stealing money from our club.....I just dont advocate boycott action at every turn while we are stuck with these cvnts is all!!

Listen to how personally you are taking everything I have said here mate, seriously, take a step back, and understand, the points I make, are not a personal attack on you, FFS man!!

"Stevie...No !"

Explain how not please

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Because I believe that shareholders will get tired of the battle between supporters and the Board and bail out. I also believe that Ashley will not take control and that the Board will look to alternative sources of investment . Admin suits none of the investors as the shares will be of no value . The 22nd is crucial as Ashley in the form of Lambias will have to show his short term intentions and he's running out of assets to secure against his loans. There's also the UEFA ruling which puts him in a situation of having to either sell Newcastle or drop his interest in Rangers .

"Are you saying you have never, at any time, stated that if we admin again then it would be the fault o those who have not renewed their ST's?"

What I have written, you have taken as the above, as if I am saying it will be no-one's fault but the ST holders who decide not to renew........that was not what I said

Let me try and break this down as simple as I can make it

At this moment, if I pay £40 for a shirt, or if I by a ticket for a match, I still get a shirt, I still get to see the game, but Mike Ashley gets my shirt money and a spiv takes some of the ticket money.

If I decide to boycott the club shops, and boycott matches, I keep my £40, I keep the money I would have spent on a ticket, I dont get a shirt, I dont get to see the game, Mike Ashley doesnt get my money, nor does some spiv, but you can guarantee both are going to take money form the club regardless of what I or every other fan does, and if it is not coming to them from tickets and retail, they may look to take it from areas of the club that are far more important and valuable to it, that currently arent being touched.

Those areas could be Ibrox itself sold off in a lease deal, could be Murray Park similarly, could be players sold to line people's pockets, could people losing their jobs, could be any number of things.

I totally understand the reasons why some fans want to boycott, and never once have I slated the intentions of such actions, as its obvious, the intention of all fans is to do whats best for the club itself.

However I just hope the outcome they hope for as a result of it materialises, and not something that could be far far worse for the club than its retail revenue lining someones pocket.

If something far worse did happen, as a direct or indirect result of boycott action and the boards counter actions to that, then I genuinely hope those who chose to boycott dont live to regret it.

For me, lining a spivs pocket is something I will grudgingly continue to do for a while if it means worse things dont happen....I cant make my argument any simpler than that.

You can say that is emotional blackmail all you want.
You can say that is me saying those choosing to boycott are solely to blame for the club getting fcked if you want.

It is not either of those things, its merely me stating why I think a boycott is not a good idea, and hoping those who havent thought their actions thorugh, actually do so, and dont just follow some cause like a sheep without realising what the consequneces may be

To clear that last part up, I am not saying you or coop are one of those people, I just ask what your reasons for boycotting are, and when you sit and tell me, that you will walk away if admin comes again while supporting a cause that could assist in that very thing or worse becoing a reality, it doesnt really add up from where I am sitting

"the Board will look to alternative sources of investment"

What do you think those alternative sources of investment will be??

Stevie.....what you are suggesting is akin to giving a robber your watch to avoid him taking your iPad , either way he's gonna take something from you! What we,re suggesting is you fight the robber by denying him both.
Fans are sick and this boil needs to be lanced, your actions will only drag it out and will lose supporters on the way.
As to alternative sources of income, the Board are already seeking this in the form of a share issue. King and Letham,s offer is still on the table , I'm certain Kennedy and Souness are still hovering too. Perhaps the ideal so,union would be a joint effort by these two groups but , believe me, there are people out there who will invest but NOT whilst Ashley is in " power ".