Think the aussies are....taken aback....don't think they ever thought this kinda thing cld touch them.....
makes me angry, not scared
RIP to the two who died
comment by junction8 (U1074)
posted 5 minutes ago
Think the aussies are....taken aback....don't think they ever thought this kinda thing cld touch them.....
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You don't hear of many terrorist attacks in Aussieland though do you?
comment by Alexis (U6685)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by junction8 (U1074)
posted 5 minutes ago
Think the aussies are....taken aback....don't think they ever thought this kinda thing cld touch them.....
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You don't hear of many terrorist attacks in Aussieland though do you?
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Or anywhere
We should all go hide in Baghdad.
Other side of the world..
What makes me scared is people who don't know how to drive. They look just the same as all the other people out there except they could try and kill you at any point.. while having no idea what they're doing.
Think we're safer in the 'western urban world' than we would be in most other parts of the globe
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 7 minutes ago
Think we're safer in the 'western urban world' than we would be in most other parts of the globe
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Yes but you've still got a chance of a nutcase doing something like this if you're casually sat in Starbucks.
comment by Alexis (U6685)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 7 minutes ago
Think we're safer in the 'western urban world' than we would be in most other parts of the globe
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Yes but you've still got a chance of a nutcase doing something like this if you're casually sat in Starbucks.
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More chance of your bedroom light falling on you and killing you in your sleep
It is a bit scary. We heard recently how the police/security services etc were pretty much powerless to stop 'lone wolf' attacks.
Exactly, the thing that makes me uncomfortable about reactions to this is that it makes me aware of our inherent smugness and hubris. These kind of dangers exist for about half the planet but because it has happened to a similar country to us we poo ourselves.
Could be worse, we could be held hostage by the US government. Now there's a group of people without morals, limits or accountability. I'd take my chances with a desperate Iranian refugee with a gun to my head any day.
We just like to stick our heads in the sand. What events like this do is remind us that we're as susceptible to the ways of the world as everyone else.
comment by Alexis (U6685)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by junction8 (U1074)
posted 5 minutes ago
Think the aussies are....taken aback....don't think they ever thought this kinda thing cld touch them.....
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You don't hear of many terrorist attacks in Aussieland though do you?
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That's my point.....
comment by Jalisco Rojo - El Ángel, el Tigre y el Ciego (U4195)
posted 27 seconds ago
It is a bit scary. We heard recently how the police/security services etc were pretty much powerless to stop 'lone wolf' attacks.
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top put it into perspective, I sas invited to a security conference a few years ago by my mate who is a professor. They had an Israeli intelligence dude talking about the utter futile expenditure in monitoring of online chatter, as the code words established off line make it quite banal. "popping to the supermarket" could mean something so different based on a two min conversation in a park months earlier. Also in terms of terror plots, one radical within an hour or two of going postal is capable of doing untold damage. The example the security expert gave was derailing a commuter train(of x hundreds) using a bag or two of concrete, as being something that requires almost no elaborate planning and is almost impossible to prevent using surveillance and is quite a simple activity due to the expanse of rail infrastructure, which is quite different from say airports.
When it comes down to it, we're the safest we've ever been. The real killers of British people being crime, health and war. Crime rates have fallen for decades, our healthcare has never been better and when we war we do our best to put our troops behind a computer screen miles away.
And yet it seems that we're more terrified than we've ever been when two people dying on the other side of the planet can be beamed straight into our homes, pockets and lives. It's a tragedy for those involved, but it really shouldn't worry us or make us more aware than the day before. There's too much political capital to be gained from making us afraid.
Pretty much...of someone wants to go postal....not a lot the authorities can do about it.....!!!!
As a guy who is 4 or 5 stone overweight and drinks way too much, a bit perspective doesn't go a miss.
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There are extremists everywhere but these ones are particularly dangerous.
I don't know any far right people these days, but do know a few far left and they would happily make us a communist country. The far left have killed more people than the far left as Im sure you all know (Stalin, China, Cambodia, etc).
There's probably more chance of getting hit by a bus or some other random ways of dying. I used to work with a girl who didn't come in for a week after the 7/7 bombings, I told her it must be the safest time to travel after a terrorist attack when security would be the highest.
comment by Januzaj's Date (U19554)
posted 1 minute ago
Islam my dear friend is probably the root cause of all terror activities related to religion. Everyone should read the Quran once in their lifetime to see how dangerous that book is.
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Islam and the quran isnt the issue, much in the same way during the crusades that the bible wasn't the issue. It is the radical extremist ideologies that cause issues.
It's incredibly intellectually boring to see people fall into talking about the far left as a great inherent evil, along with communism.
That's not what does it. What makes people kill is when they value an ideology over the life of another person. Whether this be a god, a philosophy, an economic theory, personal revenge or even hedonism. People almost always kill to protect their beliefs.
Communism isn't the issue. It's a mere economic theory twisted by propaganda so that the Western superpowers may pretend to moral superiority over their rivals. It's like blaming the Holocaust on the theory of evolution.
^ The far left have killed more people than the far RIGHT as Im sure you all know (Stalin, China, Cambodia, etc).
I don't think you understand what communism is....please don't confuse proper communism with the dictatorships of Stalin/Mao etc
comment by 9bit (U19964)
posted 5 minutes ago
There's probably more chance of getting hit by a bus or some other random ways of dying. I used to work with a girl who didn't come in for a week after the 7/7 bombings, I told her it must be the safest time to travel after a terrorist attack when security would be the highest.
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That's probably all true tbh.
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posted on 15/12/14
Think the aussies are....taken aback....don't think they ever thought this kinda thing cld touch them.....
posted on 15/12/14
makes me angry, not scared
RIP to the two who died
posted on 15/12/14
comment by junction8 (U1074)
posted 5 minutes ago
Think the aussies are....taken aback....don't think they ever thought this kinda thing cld touch them.....
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You don't hear of many terrorist attacks in Aussieland though do you?
posted on 15/12/14
comment by Alexis (U6685)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by junction8 (U1074)
posted 5 minutes ago
Think the aussies are....taken aback....don't think they ever thought this kinda thing cld touch them.....
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You don't hear of many terrorist attacks in Aussieland though do you?
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Or anywhere
posted on 15/12/14
We should all go hide in Baghdad.
posted on 15/12/14
Other side of the world..
What makes me scared is people who don't know how to drive. They look just the same as all the other people out there except they could try and kill you at any point.. while having no idea what they're doing.
posted on 15/12/14
Think we're safer in the 'western urban world' than we would be in most other parts of the globe
posted on 15/12/14
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 7 minutes ago
Think we're safer in the 'western urban world' than we would be in most other parts of the globe
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Yes but you've still got a chance of a nutcase doing something like this if you're casually sat in Starbucks.
posted on 15/12/14
comment by Alexis (U6685)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 7 minutes ago
Think we're safer in the 'western urban world' than we would be in most other parts of the globe
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Yes but you've still got a chance of a nutcase doing something like this if you're casually sat in Starbucks.
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More chance of your bedroom light falling on you and killing you in your sleep
posted on 15/12/14
It is a bit scary. We heard recently how the police/security services etc were pretty much powerless to stop 'lone wolf' attacks.
posted on 15/12/14
Exactly, the thing that makes me uncomfortable about reactions to this is that it makes me aware of our inherent smugness and hubris. These kind of dangers exist for about half the planet but because it has happened to a similar country to us we poo ourselves.
Could be worse, we could be held hostage by the US government. Now there's a group of people without morals, limits or accountability. I'd take my chances with a desperate Iranian refugee with a gun to my head any day.
We just like to stick our heads in the sand. What events like this do is remind us that we're as susceptible to the ways of the world as everyone else.
posted on 15/12/14
comment by Alexis (U6685)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by junction8 (U1074)
posted 5 minutes ago
Think the aussies are....taken aback....don't think they ever thought this kinda thing cld touch them.....
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You don't hear of many terrorist attacks in Aussieland though do you?
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That's my point.....
posted on 15/12/14
comment by Jalisco Rojo - El Ángel, el Tigre y el Ciego (U4195)
posted 27 seconds ago
It is a bit scary. We heard recently how the police/security services etc were pretty much powerless to stop 'lone wolf' attacks.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
top put it into perspective, I sas invited to a security conference a few years ago by my mate who is a professor. They had an Israeli intelligence dude talking about the utter futile expenditure in monitoring of online chatter, as the code words established off line make it quite banal. "popping to the supermarket" could mean something so different based on a two min conversation in a park months earlier. Also in terms of terror plots, one radical within an hour or two of going postal is capable of doing untold damage. The example the security expert gave was derailing a commuter train(of x hundreds) using a bag or two of concrete, as being something that requires almost no elaborate planning and is almost impossible to prevent using surveillance and is quite a simple activity due to the expanse of rail infrastructure, which is quite different from say airports.
posted on 15/12/14
When it comes down to it, we're the safest we've ever been. The real killers of British people being crime, health and war. Crime rates have fallen for decades, our healthcare has never been better and when we war we do our best to put our troops behind a computer screen miles away.
And yet it seems that we're more terrified than we've ever been when two people dying on the other side of the planet can be beamed straight into our homes, pockets and lives. It's a tragedy for those involved, but it really shouldn't worry us or make us more aware than the day before. There's too much political capital to be gained from making us afraid.
posted on 15/12/14
Pretty much...of someone wants to go postal....not a lot the authorities can do about it.....!!!!
posted on 15/12/14
As a guy who is 4 or 5 stone overweight and drinks way too much, a bit perspective doesn't go a miss.
posted on 15/12/14
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 15/12/14
There are extremists everywhere but these ones are particularly dangerous.
I don't know any far right people these days, but do know a few far left and they would happily make us a communist country. The far left have killed more people than the far left as Im sure you all know (Stalin, China, Cambodia, etc).
posted on 15/12/14
There's probably more chance of getting hit by a bus or some other random ways of dying. I used to work with a girl who didn't come in for a week after the 7/7 bombings, I told her it must be the safest time to travel after a terrorist attack when security would be the highest.
posted on 15/12/14
comment by Januzaj's Date (U19554)
posted 1 minute ago
Islam my dear friend is probably the root cause of all terror activities related to religion. Everyone should read the Quran once in their lifetime to see how dangerous that book is.
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Islam and the quran isnt the issue, much in the same way during the crusades that the bible wasn't the issue. It is the radical extremist ideologies that cause issues.
posted on 15/12/14
It's incredibly intellectually boring to see people fall into talking about the far left as a great inherent evil, along with communism.
That's not what does it. What makes people kill is when they value an ideology over the life of another person. Whether this be a god, a philosophy, an economic theory, personal revenge or even hedonism. People almost always kill to protect their beliefs.
Communism isn't the issue. It's a mere economic theory twisted by propaganda so that the Western superpowers may pretend to moral superiority over their rivals. It's like blaming the Holocaust on the theory of evolution.
posted on 15/12/14
^ The far left have killed more people than the far RIGHT as Im sure you all know (Stalin, China, Cambodia, etc).
posted on 15/12/14
I don't think you understand what communism is....please don't confuse proper communism with the dictatorships of Stalin/Mao etc
posted on 15/12/14
comment by 9bit (U19964)
posted 5 minutes ago
There's probably more chance of getting hit by a bus or some other random ways of dying. I used to work with a girl who didn't come in for a week after the 7/7 bombings, I told her it must be the safest time to travel after a terrorist attack when security would be the highest.
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That's probably all true tbh.
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