Nev, cant you understand that not everyone agrees with you on this and furthermore - thats ok? You don't need to keep repeating yourself - we all get it, but not all of us are going to agree.
The problem with you on this subject is that if you don't see agreement to your point on Nigel, you feel the need to write article after article saying the same thing until people start seeing it your way.
Thats why I honestly believe you've become a bit obsessed with it. The topic permeates almost every article you write. Now its a free country and you can write 100 articles on the subject, but it might save you a lot of time if you stop trying to drum up support for Stringer on here when there doesnt appear to be any
As ever...up to you - thats just my opinion
I disagree Nev and go as far as saying you don't get it.
The clear requirement of a leader in and walk of life is to lead. If you dot do this with clarity and authority, people will not follow.
This is the reason Ferguson and Mourinho have so much success. They are single minded and refuse to budge. You know where you stand with them.
Managers who invariably try to be players friends beer feature in the greats. Busby, Ramsey, Paisley, Shankly, Ferguson, Mourinho. They all have one thing in common, and absolute unswerving belief in what they do, and how hey do it.
Ferguson and Mourinho have constant spats with the media.
So, whilst I understand that you would like Pearson to speak to radio Leicester, I actually see the fact he's not as a strength of his managerial ability rather than a weakness.
You clearly disagree.
This is an absolute red herring, as other posters have mentioned there are plenty of other managers who have tetchy relationships with the media. I think often it can make players actually respect their manager more if he says he doesn't want to talk to the local media if the squad feels they are unfair which apparently some of them do.
I think its ridiculous to suggest that our results are in any way correlated to RL
Nev
While I completely agree with your right to be obsessed with your pal Stringy and ( in your view ) his unacceptable treatment by LCFC, you must be able to see that you are losing support each time you bring it up in every comment you make.
What is happening is happening, mentioning it in every sentence just makes it look like you have a personal vendetta against NP.
As I state above, if anything your ire should be aimed at LCFC. They have the power ( NP contract ) to sit him down and say that he must comply with his FULL media duties, unless of course they completely agree with his stance and are backing him.
If that is the case then your barking up the wrong tree, but then again that wouldn't suit your constant ranting would it?
Yes, I would like it if NP spoke to RL, of course I would.
Do I think I miss out on anything from my club due to the fact he doesn't? NO
Lots of us on here Nev are always going to come at situations from different viewpoints but it seems to only be the anti NP bunch that constantly bang on and on about the same stuff.
I hope to see many more posts from my fellow LCFC fan Nev, but I hope to see some more constructive ones rather than the tiresome ones we have seen of late.
This is soooo boring now. I couldn't give a rats .... about radio leicesters amature interviews. Plenty of other media outlets that get us all the information we need.
Aside from that this forum is being ruined by petty childish pathetic posts which seems to be created more for an argument than a good old fashioned comment and debate. It's got so personal of late I'm sure im not the only one who has started looking to other forums.
Your fed up about me banging on about RL bordering on in the ever rational BS telling me i'm obsessed.
But can't you see through to what i am getting...
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Your fed up about me banging on about RL bordering on in the ever rational BS telling me i'm obsessed.
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Love it nothing like a bit of stick on a Monday morning,
I knew Mersey you would compare Nigel to the Legendary managers who have proved themselves of many seasons.
I ask you one question have any of those you have mentioned lost 12 games in a row in two separate divisions?
But if you thinks its alright for Nigel to behave as he does good for you. there are quite a few of us who see Nigel for what he is as for losing support this is not a love in its about opinions so you doen't agree or like mine so what nothing ever said on here change anything ever its.
I even got the grammar police out dont they know this is good by my standards!
Thats funny is it Tommy ?
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newWAYNEorder - Trust us, you're fighting a losing battle there, son.
Although from experience over the years, Nev's a lot smarter than his grammar suggests.
That said Nev, I disagree with you on this one and have to echo the other posters: Alex Ferguson for instance, refused to speak to the BBC for years and years, and it didn't stop him from having success. That he won't speak to someone whose approach was negatively affecting the team (in the club's view, and in the implicit view of several other journalists) is far less a concern than some of the tactical decisions made in a one-off match at the weekend. (We can't afford too many more of those, but with any luck the new Croatian lad will help to make those decisions for us in future matches.
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Fergie got the Ache because his son was accused of bungs nothing to do with the team.
Anyway i have nothing more to add to this and i will silenced by the thought police.
what am trying to say that his failing with the media and abusing a fan is symptomatic of his team selection and tactics He's pedantic stubborn and rude.
The failing on Saturday was down to match management stoke did to our expense
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posted 4 minutes ago
Fergie got the Ache because his son was accused of bungs nothing to do with the team.
Anyway i have nothing more to add to this and i will silenced by the thought police.
what am trying to say that his failing with the media and abusing a fan is symptomatic of his team selection and tactics He's pedantic stubborn and rude.
The failing on Saturday was down to match management stoke did to our expense
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You have nothing more to add Nev, then you add more???
Just accept we ALL know where you are coming from, it's just some of us disagree.
Please continue posting ( as long as it is grammatically correct 😀)
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A fundamental misunderstanding of freedom of speech and debate there Nev. As BS has said you have the freedom to post on as many articles about this as you like without it being removed or you getting into trouble.
But we have the freedom to tell you 1) Why we disagree with you and 2) That we are bored of your constant comments on what at least the members of this particular thread see as a bit of a non issue.
Pearson has always been prickly with the media since day one but he is our most sucessful manager since O'Neil and this was not an issue at all last season. He has not failed with the media he and from what I have read the team have been constantly frustrated by the speculation over his job and has therefore decided not to talk to RL.
His team selection is a totally separate issue, as many people have mentioned there are a number of managers from Jose to Pardew who have had spats with the media but no-one has ever suggested that affects the way they pick their team.
Stoke have been in the Premier League for about five years they are a very good and solid team who got their tactics spot on, it happens not all games can go superbly but that's football. its all about how we respond
This is a very serious subject which should fall outside the normal pro and anti Pearson debate as regards Team Manager performance and ability as coach.
This is a fundamental question regarding Leicester City Football Club – its position in the community and its owners reputation in preserving integrity of the club as an institution.
In this regard Mersey – I am disappointed in your position because although I acknowledge your commitment to Pearson – I also felt you had a higher regard overall for the Football Club. Some of the other posters ooze out as soon as any issue is raised contrary to their Pearson propaganda.
Let us be clear – what we are discussing is censorship however else one can attempt to camouflage.
The Club through its owners has a lifetime responsibity to the community of LeIcestershire and beyond –not only to the attending supporters but the many hundreds of thousands who support and love their local club and whose contact with THEIR club is through Radio Leicester – their contact point. They rely on this contact for their news and comment – and in difficult times thay expect the journalists to be interrogative and inquisitive on their behalf.
The Journalists are not there as servants of the club –least of all the manager – they are there to ensure that the club is transparent and ask if necessary pointed questions to ensure the public get access to the facts.
That is journalism – to prevent it is censorship.
It is worrying to see parallels develop between this and the major problems which occurred at Forest prior to last change of managership where a poisonous atmosphere developed fuelled by the development of a black list of journalists and a complete intolerance of criticism.
It took a major article and expose in the Guardian to bring the situation into focus and eventually encourage the owner to appreciate that the reputation of the club had to be preserved.
I think the owners and Chief Executive at Leicester City will fail in their duty to the wider community if they allow a Team manager the freedom to select his favoured journalists .
Censorship is the child of fear and the father of ignorance
Chesham,
Really Nigel has spats with the medis fans and players.
He had no issues with the media because he was winning when the pressures on he can't take critism imo
So i have to disagree as for being the best since Mon i agree but thats not hard considering the ones we have had since.
For me im not as upset as others as we had done so well and given injuries we have had etc. As you say if we can beat Spurs in the cup moral goes ups.
If we are relegated it will be that 12 game run that does not what happens against the big four clubs we play.
I don't know of any Manager who has lost 12 straight games in 2 different divisions?
Still, doesn't hurt to change facts to suit your argument Nev, looks like you and JG have been conferring
I do know a Manager that saved LCFC from disaster twice, the depths of Division one and financial ruin by he who shall not be named, oh, and he got us into the Premiership, all this with the same style of Man Management and a few spats with "Jeremy Paxman" at RL along the way.
Whether he's good enough in the Premiership remains to be seen but I guess I feel support is better than trying to undermine him is more productive, we'll all know by the end of the season how that pans out.
Good WUMMING though NEv.
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ON an unrelated note, I knocked this up earlier, what do people think, and does it show up on Apples?
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JG i need not post another word on the subject you have summed it up much more eruditely than i have been able to do in what to others seems like a 1000 posts
JG and Nev in perfect agreement shocker.
Two sides to this one depending on your point of view. Personally I would say RL have done the community a great disservice, by behaving in such an unprofessional way that they have offended some of the players in the team.
When a journalist makes a cut throat gesture about the manager to the playing staff, he crosses the line of impartiality. He reveals himself to be unfit to represent the voice of the fans because he has, at heart, an agenda.
What JG will conveniently forget to remind you of is that 2 of the players took a decision themselves not to speak to RL after the Liverpool game. Is that imposed censorship?
There's a lot of hypocrisy on here and the utilisation of events such as this to support an anti Pearson stance. To compare the situation to Nottingham Forest is ludicrous and shows a complete lack of knowledge outside of this club.
At Forest, Davies refused to do press conferences to anyone. He refused to give post match interviews to any media outlet, consulted his cousin and his lawyer over articles in the press, threw out photographers during a match, banned them from the training ground - ask Forest fans if the players and the manager not giving to interviews to one journalist who made a jibe at the players is the same thing.
A disgraceful and purposeful twisting of the facts to support a tired argument the majority don't agree with. Truly pathetic.
comment by johngee (U5021)
posted 17 minutes ago
This is a very serious subject which should fall outside the normal pro and anti Pearson debate as regards Team Manager performance and ability as coach.
This is a fundamental question regarding Leicester City Football Club – its position in the community and its owners reputation in preserving integrity of the club as an institution.
In this regard Mersey – I am disappointed in your position because although I acknowledge your commitment to Pearson – I also felt you had a higher regard overall for the Football Club. Some of the other posters ooze out as soon as any issue is raised contrary to their Pearson propaganda.
Let us be clear – what we are discussing is censorship however else one can attempt to camouflage.
The Club through its owners has a lifetime responsibity to the community of LeIcestershire and beyond –not only to the attending supporters but the many hundreds of thousands who support and love their local club and whose contact with THEIR club is through Radio Leicester – their contact point. They rely on this contact for their news and comment – and in difficult times thay expect the journalists to be interrogative and inquisitive on their behalf.
The Journalists are not there as servants of the club –least of all the manager – they are there to ensure that the club is transparent and ask if necessary pointed questions to ensure the public get access to the facts.
That is journalism – to prevent it is censorship.
It is worrying to see parallels develop between this and the major problems which occurred at Forest prior to last change of managership where a poisonous atmosphere developed fuelled by the development of a black list of journalists and a complete intolerance of criticism.
It took a major article and expose in the Guardian to bring the situation into focus and eventually encourage the owner to appreciate that the reputation of the club had to be preserved.
I think the owners and Chief Executive at Leicester City will fail in their duty to the wider community if they allow a Team manager the freedom to select his favoured journalists .
Censorship is the child of fear and the father of ignorance
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I fully appreciate your article and it is very well versed, your point is valid that this is a club issue, it is NOT an issue with NP alone.
That is my problem I have with Nev and his posts, the majority of his posts are aimed entirely at NP with very little if any mention of the club being at fault ( if anyone can be said to be at fault ).
As I said earlier the board will be within its rights to demand NP fulfills his duties with the local media, unless of course they agree with the stance of NP and the players ( let's not forget some players have decided to banish RL as well, but maybe they did this as NP had a loaded gun to their heads lol ).
This difference of opinion will continue to be a tennis game of opinions being batted backwards and forwards, maybe we all need to draw a line under it and agree to disagree.
I, for one, will only respond on posts that I feel are vindictive and show no sign of understanding or appreciating that other individuals can have alternative views.
PS I could agree with you all more on the censorship accusation if the club was not talking to ANY media, but the fact that we have access to numerous interviews with a number of organisations probing with different questions and angles surely means that they are not censoring anything. If NP refused to speak to SKY for example would there be such a furore or is it just because it is Nev's bosom buddy stringy?
newWAYNEorder - Sorry gramps. Noted.
Nev and John, this is not about censorship. This is about ensuring that a dressing room is not disrupted. If there was something corrupt going on, or suggested, or insinuated, then yes - the refusal to speak to Radio Leicester would be concerning and I'd be joining you in your viewpoint. But I'm sorry - to the club, the important thing is to stay in the league. They are not mistreating the fans as they do this (Ok, Glorialestafan may say otherwise, but in general) and they are showing willing to spend a lot of money to do so. So when an individual journalist comes along and starts upsetting the manager or the dressing room, the club have taken the decision not to stand for it and to block him.
It is not my right as a supporter to know everything that happens within the dressing room, and it would do the club no good for us to know. I don't care for the answers to the questions "will you be sacked", "will you be sacked" and "are you sure you won't be sacked?", particularly when they're being asked of the man who might be sacked and not the man who's doing the sacking. These questions are not some great investigation, they're ridiculous. Even if they're asked to Top and Vichai, to ask them repeatedly would be needlessly disrespectful of the answers they're giving.
So to repeat: If something really bad or corrupt was happening at the club, we as supporters would and should demand answers. But this is not that situation. This is a struggling team that needs support rather than having investigative hounds tearing them apart. It is no threat to our club beyond the debate about how we may be able to avoid relegation this year. That's why I think all of this is irrelevant.
Really Nigel has spats with the medis fans and players.
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So does nearly ever single manager, I cannot think of one manager who has never had a spat with one of their players and loads of managers have frosty relationships with the media we just don't focus on them as much as are own manager.
John Gee there is no requirement for the club to send people to radio Leicester, it would be really great if they did but its not censorship. RL are free to talk about whatever they like just as the club are free to provide interviews or not. John Gee I would love what you posted to occur but in the modern age it just doesn't happen. Owners in theory have a responsiblity to fans but football clubs are buisness now.
Its not like NP is refusing to talk to anyone he still talks to national media, this issue is making a mountain out of a molehill and if we were winning this wouldn't be brought up
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posted on 19/1/15
Nev, cant you understand that not everyone agrees with you on this and furthermore - thats ok? You don't need to keep repeating yourself - we all get it, but not all of us are going to agree.
The problem with you on this subject is that if you don't see agreement to your point on Nigel, you feel the need to write article after article saying the same thing until people start seeing it your way.
Thats why I honestly believe you've become a bit obsessed with it. The topic permeates almost every article you write. Now its a free country and you can write 100 articles on the subject, but it might save you a lot of time if you stop trying to drum up support for Stringer on here when there doesnt appear to be any
As ever...up to you - thats just my opinion
posted on 19/1/15
I disagree Nev and go as far as saying you don't get it.
The clear requirement of a leader in and walk of life is to lead. If you dot do this with clarity and authority, people will not follow.
This is the reason Ferguson and Mourinho have so much success. They are single minded and refuse to budge. You know where you stand with them.
Managers who invariably try to be players friends beer feature in the greats. Busby, Ramsey, Paisley, Shankly, Ferguson, Mourinho. They all have one thing in common, and absolute unswerving belief in what they do, and how hey do it.
Ferguson and Mourinho have constant spats with the media.
So, whilst I understand that you would like Pearson to speak to radio Leicester, I actually see the fact he's not as a strength of his managerial ability rather than a weakness.
You clearly disagree.
posted on 19/1/15
This is an absolute red herring, as other posters have mentioned there are plenty of other managers who have tetchy relationships with the media. I think often it can make players actually respect their manager more if he says he doesn't want to talk to the local media if the squad feels they are unfair which apparently some of them do.
I think its ridiculous to suggest that our results are in any way correlated to RL
posted on 19/1/15
Nev
While I completely agree with your right to be obsessed with your pal Stringy and ( in your view ) his unacceptable treatment by LCFC, you must be able to see that you are losing support each time you bring it up in every comment you make.
What is happening is happening, mentioning it in every sentence just makes it look like you have a personal vendetta against NP.
As I state above, if anything your ire should be aimed at LCFC. They have the power ( NP contract ) to sit him down and say that he must comply with his FULL media duties, unless of course they completely agree with his stance and are backing him.
If that is the case then your barking up the wrong tree, but then again that wouldn't suit your constant ranting would it?
Yes, I would like it if NP spoke to RL, of course I would.
Do I think I miss out on anything from my club due to the fact he doesn't? NO
Lots of us on here Nev are always going to come at situations from different viewpoints but it seems to only be the anti NP bunch that constantly bang on and on about the same stuff.
I hope to see many more posts from my fellow LCFC fan Nev, but I hope to see some more constructive ones rather than the tiresome ones we have seen of late.
posted on 19/1/15
This is soooo boring now. I couldn't give a rats .... about radio leicesters amature interviews. Plenty of other media outlets that get us all the information we need.
Aside from that this forum is being ruined by petty childish pathetic posts which seems to be created more for an argument than a good old fashioned comment and debate. It's got so personal of late I'm sure im not the only one who has started looking to other forums.
posted on 19/1/15
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posted on 19/1/15
Love it nothing like a bit of stick on a Monday morning,
I knew Mersey you would compare Nigel to the Legendary managers who have proved themselves of many seasons.
I ask you one question have any of those you have mentioned lost 12 games in a row in two separate divisions?
But if you thinks its alright for Nigel to behave as he does good for you. there are quite a few of us who see Nigel for what he is as for losing support this is not a love in its about opinions so you doen't agree or like mine so what nothing ever said on here change anything ever its.
I even got the grammar police out dont they know this is good by my standards!
posted on 19/1/15
Thats funny is it Tommy ?
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posted on 19/1/15
newWAYNEorder - Trust us, you're fighting a losing battle there, son.
Although from experience over the years, Nev's a lot smarter than his grammar suggests.
That said Nev, I disagree with you on this one and have to echo the other posters: Alex Ferguson for instance, refused to speak to the BBC for years and years, and it didn't stop him from having success. That he won't speak to someone whose approach was negatively affecting the team (in the club's view, and in the implicit view of several other journalists) is far less a concern than some of the tactical decisions made in a one-off match at the weekend. (We can't afford too many more of those, but with any luck the new Croatian lad will help to make those decisions for us in future matches.
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posted on 19/1/15
Fergie got the Ache because his son was accused of bungs nothing to do with the team.
Anyway i have nothing more to add to this and i will silenced by the thought police.
what am trying to say that his failing with the media and abusing a fan is symptomatic of his team selection and tactics He's pedantic stubborn and rude.
The failing on Saturday was down to match management stoke did to our expense
posted on 19/1/15
comment by Nevsaysagoal2city (U5194)
posted 4 minutes ago
Fergie got the Ache because his son was accused of bungs nothing to do with the team.
Anyway i have nothing more to add to this and i will silenced by the thought police.
what am trying to say that his failing with the media and abusing a fan is symptomatic of his team selection and tactics He's pedantic stubborn and rude.
The failing on Saturday was down to match management stoke did to our expense
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You have nothing more to add Nev, then you add more???
Just accept we ALL know where you are coming from, it's just some of us disagree.
Please continue posting ( as long as it is grammatically correct 😀)
posted on 19/1/15
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A fundamental misunderstanding of freedom of speech and debate there Nev. As BS has said you have the freedom to post on as many articles about this as you like without it being removed or you getting into trouble.
But we have the freedom to tell you 1) Why we disagree with you and 2) That we are bored of your constant comments on what at least the members of this particular thread see as a bit of a non issue.
Pearson has always been prickly with the media since day one but he is our most sucessful manager since O'Neil and this was not an issue at all last season. He has not failed with the media he and from what I have read the team have been constantly frustrated by the speculation over his job and has therefore decided not to talk to RL.
His team selection is a totally separate issue, as many people have mentioned there are a number of managers from Jose to Pardew who have had spats with the media but no-one has ever suggested that affects the way they pick their team.
Stoke have been in the Premier League for about five years they are a very good and solid team who got their tactics spot on, it happens not all games can go superbly but that's football. its all about how we respond
posted on 19/1/15
This is a very serious subject which should fall outside the normal pro and anti Pearson debate as regards Team Manager performance and ability as coach.
This is a fundamental question regarding Leicester City Football Club – its position in the community and its owners reputation in preserving integrity of the club as an institution.
In this regard Mersey – I am disappointed in your position because although I acknowledge your commitment to Pearson – I also felt you had a higher regard overall for the Football Club. Some of the other posters ooze out as soon as any issue is raised contrary to their Pearson propaganda.
Let us be clear – what we are discussing is censorship however else one can attempt to camouflage.
The Club through its owners has a lifetime responsibity to the community of LeIcestershire and beyond –not only to the attending supporters but the many hundreds of thousands who support and love their local club and whose contact with THEIR club is through Radio Leicester – their contact point. They rely on this contact for their news and comment – and in difficult times thay expect the journalists to be interrogative and inquisitive on their behalf.
The Journalists are not there as servants of the club –least of all the manager – they are there to ensure that the club is transparent and ask if necessary pointed questions to ensure the public get access to the facts.
That is journalism – to prevent it is censorship.
It is worrying to see parallels develop between this and the major problems which occurred at Forest prior to last change of managership where a poisonous atmosphere developed fuelled by the development of a black list of journalists and a complete intolerance of criticism.
It took a major article and expose in the Guardian to bring the situation into focus and eventually encourage the owner to appreciate that the reputation of the club had to be preserved.
I think the owners and Chief Executive at Leicester City will fail in their duty to the wider community if they allow a Team manager the freedom to select his favoured journalists .
Censorship is the child of fear and the father of ignorance
posted on 19/1/15
Chesham,
Really Nigel has spats with the medis fans and players.
He had no issues with the media because he was winning when the pressures on he can't take critism imo
So i have to disagree as for being the best since Mon i agree but thats not hard considering the ones we have had since.
For me im not as upset as others as we had done so well and given injuries we have had etc. As you say if we can beat Spurs in the cup moral goes ups.
If we are relegated it will be that 12 game run that does not what happens against the big four clubs we play.
posted on 19/1/15
I don't know of any Manager who has lost 12 straight games in 2 different divisions?
Still, doesn't hurt to change facts to suit your argument Nev, looks like you and JG have been conferring
I do know a Manager that saved LCFC from disaster twice, the depths of Division one and financial ruin by he who shall not be named, oh, and he got us into the Premiership, all this with the same style of Man Management and a few spats with "Jeremy Paxman" at RL along the way.
Whether he's good enough in the Premiership remains to be seen but I guess I feel support is better than trying to undermine him is more productive, we'll all know by the end of the season how that pans out.
Good WUMMING though NEv.
posted on 19/1/15
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Your fed up about me banging on about RL bordering on in the ever rational BS telling me i'm obsessed.
But can't you see through to what i am getting...
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Yes I am. Don't worry you didn't miss much, just some graphics to show my support of your comment and how amusing I found it.
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Fair enough
ON an unrelated note, I knocked this up earlier, what do people think, and does it show up on Apples?
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Oh, and to whomever called me "son" earlier, I'm 46 in March, so thanks
posted on 19/1/15
JG i need not post another word on the subject you have summed it up much more eruditely than i have been able to do in what to others seems like a 1000 posts
posted on 19/1/15
JG and Nev in perfect agreement shocker.
Two sides to this one depending on your point of view. Personally I would say RL have done the community a great disservice, by behaving in such an unprofessional way that they have offended some of the players in the team.
When a journalist makes a cut throat gesture about the manager to the playing staff, he crosses the line of impartiality. He reveals himself to be unfit to represent the voice of the fans because he has, at heart, an agenda.
What JG will conveniently forget to remind you of is that 2 of the players took a decision themselves not to speak to RL after the Liverpool game. Is that imposed censorship?
There's a lot of hypocrisy on here and the utilisation of events such as this to support an anti Pearson stance. To compare the situation to Nottingham Forest is ludicrous and shows a complete lack of knowledge outside of this club.
At Forest, Davies refused to do press conferences to anyone. He refused to give post match interviews to any media outlet, consulted his cousin and his lawyer over articles in the press, threw out photographers during a match, banned them from the training ground - ask Forest fans if the players and the manager not giving to interviews to one journalist who made a jibe at the players is the same thing.
A disgraceful and purposeful twisting of the facts to support a tired argument the majority don't agree with. Truly pathetic.
posted on 19/1/15
comment by johngee (U5021)
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This is a very serious subject which should fall outside the normal pro and anti Pearson debate as regards Team Manager performance and ability as coach.
This is a fundamental question regarding Leicester City Football Club – its position in the community and its owners reputation in preserving integrity of the club as an institution.
In this regard Mersey – I am disappointed in your position because although I acknowledge your commitment to Pearson – I also felt you had a higher regard overall for the Football Club. Some of the other posters ooze out as soon as any issue is raised contrary to their Pearson propaganda.
Let us be clear – what we are discussing is censorship however else one can attempt to camouflage.
The Club through its owners has a lifetime responsibity to the community of LeIcestershire and beyond –not only to the attending supporters but the many hundreds of thousands who support and love their local club and whose contact with THEIR club is through Radio Leicester – their contact point. They rely on this contact for their news and comment – and in difficult times thay expect the journalists to be interrogative and inquisitive on their behalf.
The Journalists are not there as servants of the club –least of all the manager – they are there to ensure that the club is transparent and ask if necessary pointed questions to ensure the public get access to the facts.
That is journalism – to prevent it is censorship.
It is worrying to see parallels develop between this and the major problems which occurred at Forest prior to last change of managership where a poisonous atmosphere developed fuelled by the development of a black list of journalists and a complete intolerance of criticism.
It took a major article and expose in the Guardian to bring the situation into focus and eventually encourage the owner to appreciate that the reputation of the club had to be preserved.
I think the owners and Chief Executive at Leicester City will fail in their duty to the wider community if they allow a Team manager the freedom to select his favoured journalists .
Censorship is the child of fear and the father of ignorance
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I fully appreciate your article and it is very well versed, your point is valid that this is a club issue, it is NOT an issue with NP alone.
That is my problem I have with Nev and his posts, the majority of his posts are aimed entirely at NP with very little if any mention of the club being at fault ( if anyone can be said to be at fault ).
As I said earlier the board will be within its rights to demand NP fulfills his duties with the local media, unless of course they agree with the stance of NP and the players ( let's not forget some players have decided to banish RL as well, but maybe they did this as NP had a loaded gun to their heads lol ).
This difference of opinion will continue to be a tennis game of opinions being batted backwards and forwards, maybe we all need to draw a line under it and agree to disagree.
I, for one, will only respond on posts that I feel are vindictive and show no sign of understanding or appreciating that other individuals can have alternative views.
PS I could agree with you all more on the censorship accusation if the club was not talking to ANY media, but the fact that we have access to numerous interviews with a number of organisations probing with different questions and angles surely means that they are not censoring anything. If NP refused to speak to SKY for example would there be such a furore or is it just because it is Nev's bosom buddy stringy?
posted on 19/1/15
newWAYNEorder - Sorry gramps. Noted.
Nev and John, this is not about censorship. This is about ensuring that a dressing room is not disrupted. If there was something corrupt going on, or suggested, or insinuated, then yes - the refusal to speak to Radio Leicester would be concerning and I'd be joining you in your viewpoint. But I'm sorry - to the club, the important thing is to stay in the league. They are not mistreating the fans as they do this (Ok, Glorialestafan may say otherwise, but in general) and they are showing willing to spend a lot of money to do so. So when an individual journalist comes along and starts upsetting the manager or the dressing room, the club have taken the decision not to stand for it and to block him.
It is not my right as a supporter to know everything that happens within the dressing room, and it would do the club no good for us to know. I don't care for the answers to the questions "will you be sacked", "will you be sacked" and "are you sure you won't be sacked?", particularly when they're being asked of the man who might be sacked and not the man who's doing the sacking. These questions are not some great investigation, they're ridiculous. Even if they're asked to Top and Vichai, to ask them repeatedly would be needlessly disrespectful of the answers they're giving.
So to repeat: If something really bad or corrupt was happening at the club, we as supporters would and should demand answers. But this is not that situation. This is a struggling team that needs support rather than having investigative hounds tearing them apart. It is no threat to our club beyond the debate about how we may be able to avoid relegation this year. That's why I think all of this is irrelevant.
posted on 19/1/15
Really Nigel has spats with the medis fans and players.
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So does nearly ever single manager, I cannot think of one manager who has never had a spat with one of their players and loads of managers have frosty relationships with the media we just don't focus on them as much as are own manager.
John Gee there is no requirement for the club to send people to radio Leicester, it would be really great if they did but its not censorship. RL are free to talk about whatever they like just as the club are free to provide interviews or not. John Gee I would love what you posted to occur but in the modern age it just doesn't happen. Owners in theory have a responsiblity to fans but football clubs are buisness now.
Its not like NP is refusing to talk to anyone he still talks to national media, this issue is making a mountain out of a molehill and if we were winning this wouldn't be brought up
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