So both of redmisty's plot holes have been proved false yet he is accusing others of always being wrong

comment by redmisty (U7556)
posted 9 minutes ago
They weren't right next to Jakku though. Han's surprise when they mentioned Jakku illustrates that. There was obviously a time lapse.
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Didn't seem like it to me. They had literally just taken off.

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Tbh that's your problem not the films... unless you think they should have put a 6hrs four systems over sigh up?

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Both of these exchanges CLEARLY indicate that Yoda can see the future.
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Not really. The first exchange shows Luke can see the future and that Yoda understands this is what he sees.

The second says he cannot see the future.

comment by ツ VertongHєиgу (U9129)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by redmisty (U7556)
posted 9 minutes ago
They weren't right next to Jakku though. Han's surprise when they mentioned Jakku illustrates that. There was obviously a time lapse.
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Didn't seem like it to me. They had literally just taken off.

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Tbh that's your problem not the films... unless you think they should have put a 6hrs four systems over sigh up?
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It's not difficult to indicate the passage of time in a movie. Abrams must have just forgotten to bother...

comment by redmisty (U7556)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by ツ VertongHєиgу (U9129)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by redmisty (U7556)
posted 9 minutes ago
They weren't right next to Jakku though. Han's surprise when they mentioned Jakku illustrates that. There was obviously a time lapse.
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Didn't seem like it to me. They had literally just taken off.

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Tbh that's your problem not the films... unless you think they should have put a 6hrs four systems over sigh up?
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It's not difficult to indicate the passage of time in a movie. Abrams must have just forgotten to bother...

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What like a surprised look on Hans face when they mentioned they just came from Jakku?

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 2 minutes ago
Both of these exchanges CLEARLY indicate that Yoda can see the future.
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Not really. The first exchange shows Luke can see the future and that Yoda understands this is what he sees.

The second says he cannot see the future.
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I thought that

comment by redmisty (U7556)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by ツ VertongHєиgу (U9129)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by redmisty (U7556)
posted 9 minutes ago
They weren't right next to Jakku though. Han's surprise when they mentioned Jakku illustrates that. There was obviously a time lapse.
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Didn't seem like it to me. They had literally just taken off.

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Tbh that's your problem not the films... unless you think they should have put a 6hrs four systems over sigh up?
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It's not difficult to indicate the passage of time in a movie. Abrams must have just forgotten to bother...

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"Jakku?! That junkyard?"

Passage of time indicated.

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 16 seconds ago
Both of these exchanges CLEARLY indicate that Yoda can see the future.
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Not really. The first exchange shows Luke can see the future and that Yoda understands this is what he sees.

The second says he cannot see the future.
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Are you for real?

No wonder you lot enjoy Rebels and The Clone Wars. Much more your intellectual level, it seems.

HOW does Yoda know that it is the future Luke sees unless he sees it too?

The fact that Kenobi say "EVEN Yoda cannot see their fate" indicates that,if anyone could, it would be Yoda.

BECAUSE HE CAN SEE THE FUTURE.

I now understand why you guys enjoyed TFA so much. Scarcely a brain cell between you...

comment by Obers (U3904)
posted 4 minutes ago
So both of redmisty's plot holes have been proved false yet he is accusing others of always being wrong
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You haven't proved anything whatsoever. Except that you are an idiot who failed to even understand the dialogue in Empire Strikes back.

I understood it well enough when I was 6 years old.

"Scarcely a brain cell"

Which you've shown yourself by not being able to put all the clues together

comment by redmisty (U7556)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by Obers (U3904)
posted 4 minutes ago
So both of redmisty's plot holes have been proved false yet he is accusing others of always being wrong
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You haven't proved anything whatsoever. Except that you are an idiot who failed to even understand the dialogue in Empire Strikes back.

I understood it well enough when I was 6 years old.


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Personal insults.

Loss of argument indicated.

Sure, of course it isn't a case of you fanboys making silly excuses for the film...

Of course you would never do that.

comment by redmisty (U7556)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 16 seconds ago
Both of these exchanges CLEARLY indicate that Yoda can see the future.
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Not really. The first exchange shows Luke can see the future and that Yoda understands this is what he sees.

The second says he cannot see the future.
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Are you for real?

No wonder you lot enjoy Rebels and The Clone Wars. Much more your intellectual level, it seems.

HOW does Yoda know that it is the future Luke sees unless he sees it too?

The fact that Kenobi say "EVEN Yoda cannot see their fate" indicates that,if anyone could, it would be Yoda.

BECAUSE HE CAN SEE THE FUTURE.

I now understand why you guys enjoyed TFA so much. Scarcely a brain cell between you...

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See you've assumed all that but can't seem to use the same assumptions for TFA

comment by Obers (U3904)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by redmisty (U7556)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by Obers (U3904)
posted 4 minutes ago
So both of redmisty's plot holes have been proved false yet he is accusing others of always being wrong
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You haven't proved anything whatsoever. Except that you are an idiot who failed to even understand the dialogue in Empire Strikes back.

I understood it well enough when I was 6 years old.


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Personal insults.
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In your case, well deserved.

Outsmarted by me when I was six years old!

See you've assumed all that but can't seem to use the same assumptions for TFA
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Big difference between assumption and logical inference.

HOW does Yoda know that it is the future Luke sees unless he sees it too?
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Because he has an understanding of Lukes powers, and is intelligent enough to understand that Luke is talking about a vision of the future.

As has already been pointed out, at no point in episode 5 did the film say Yoda could predict the future, or indeed say Yoda predicted the future to find Luke. Those are assumptions that you have had to make yourself, but you also try and convince everyone that you shouldn't have to assume anything in TFA

Just give it up

The fact that Kenobi say "EVEN Yoda cannot see their fate" indicates that,if anyone could, it would be Yoda.
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Yoda is seen as the most powerful Jedi around, and even he cannot see the future...

I would like another plot hole if you've got one

Because he has an understanding of Lukes powers, and is intelligent enough to understand that Luke is talking about a vision of the future.
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How does he understand Luke's powers?

And why do you assume that Luke has powers that Yoda does not?

And what does intelligence have to do with it? Luke could have been witnessing the past or the present - neither of which would have been an illogical interpretation of his vision........unless Yoda could see the future.

comment by ツ VertongHєиgу (U9129)
posted 11 seconds ago
I would like another plot hole if you've got one
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I gave you a link to 40 of them.

And a separate link to 60 of them.

There might be some big words in there though...fair warning and all that.

comment by redmisty (U7556)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by ツ VertongHєиgу (U9129)
posted 11 seconds ago
I would like another plot hole if you've got one
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I gave you a link to 40 of them.

And a separate link to 60 of them.

There might be some big words in there though...fair warning and all that.

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Oh I thought they was plot holes you came up with not some one else.

Probably couldn't see them yourself after struggling to understand the dialogue

comment by redmisty (U7556)
posted 1 minute ago
Because he has an understanding of Lukes powers, and is intelligent enough to understand that Luke is talking about a vision of the future.
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How does he understand Luke's powers?

And why do you assume that Luke has powers that Yoda does not?

And what does intelligence have to do with it? Luke could have been witnessing the past or the present - neither of which would have been an illogical interpretation of his vision........unless Yoda could see the future.

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Because he is old and wise and knew the potential of Anakin.
Because Luke is the most powerful jedi to ever live.
Intelligence because Yoda can decipher from Lukes reaction it is not an event of the past.

Because he is old and wise
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Unlike you. Dumbest explanation ever.


"Because Luke is the most powerful jedi to ever live."
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Er...bollox. Yoda was the most powerful jedi - at least at that point.


"Intelligence because Yoda can decipher from Lukes reaction it is not an event of the past."
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Now you just sound like a complete moron.