Odd bunch that don't want to be ruled from London but more than happy to be ruled by Brussels.**

Thanks Hector, you've just proved my point - an odd bunch indeed, we have an English (so called) faction of our own

So you do want to, I've asked why..

You haven't answered.**

I want a controlled immigration policy, you just keep asking me (like a typical whining liberal looking for an angle) why I want to stop people coming here from the EU and the answer is I don't, I want us to be able to choose which people we take from all over the world including the EU, now have you got your head around this now?

What will you want done about the EU nationals that are present in the UK?

Restricting the numbers of people is restricting people, why would you want to restrict the number of people coming in or going out of the U.K.?

What will you want done about the EU nationals that are present in the UK?

Restricting the numbers of people is restricting people, why would you want to restrict the number of people coming in or going out of the U.K.?**

depends what the eu nationals currently in the U.K (England) are doing with their daily lives, how much of a positive contribution they are making, generally what they bring to the table of the U.K (England)

I would want to restrict people based on the same criteria as I have given for your first answer, and that applies to all immigration

Also Red the EU nationals worthy of staying would be training up British recruits to ultimately replace them in that particular role in the long term which would allow them to return to their country of origin and cut down on immigration even further which would lessen the burden and demands on public issues such as health and housing

Superb - aka TheBoyGiggs (U6486) "A democracy is surely a system where people actually get a say and where they are not dictated to by unelected bureaucrats in another country.

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"What exactly do we have a say in either way? Every five years we vote in a party based on promises they make (and break) with no recourse.

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At least we can vote out governments every five years in the current system. As members of the EU we have no say in who decides what laws are imposed on us by unelected officials in a foreign country that doesn't necessarily care for our selective and individual interests.

comment by really? (U17250)
posted 13 seconds ago
Also Red the EU nationals worthy of staying would be training up British recruits to ultimately replace them in that particular role in the long term which would allow them to return to their country of origin and cut down on immigration even further which would lessen the burden and demands on public issues such as health and housing

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Why would they be training British nationals to do their work? Allow them to return? If they're earning their living here, renting property here, buying consumables here why on earth would you want them to go somewhere else and have a less qualified person do the job?

Is Britain incapable of training its own workforce?

You seem to have not grasped that Britons will also choose to ply their trade elsewhere.

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At least we can vote out governments every five years in the current system. As members of the EU we have no say in who decides what laws are imposed on us by unelected officials in a foreign country that doesn't necessarily care for our selective and individual interests

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Ah, wonder who chooses the MEP's then..

It will lead to a load of people who have desperately saved to get on the property ladder having negative equity.

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How would it? They're not going to spend £120k of their cash if the asking price is £50k

Unless you're talking of people that have currently bought - so what if there's negative equity? Records show that's only for an acute length of time. Unless they were looking to sell, they can stay put and prices will rise again.

If they're earning their living here, renting property here, buying consumables here why on earth would you want them to go somewhere else and have a less qualified person do the job?

Is Britain incapable of training its own workforce?**

ah well we are told by people like yourself that we need immigration to fill skills gaps, so the long-term plan to ease polulation and public service congestion would be for the people to come here temporarily with the skills, pass them on to the people that already reside here (and are out of work and a strain on services) and then return home, why wouldn't you want to help the British people that haven't got the skills to fill roles that we need to bring immigrants in for? do you want to see them spend the rest of their lives on Benefits??

Admins any chance you can multi board this article as it obviously effects more than just Chelsea fans.

Why are these people out of work in the first place?

If they are able to train, they would have trained themselves via vocational colleges already and be in work.

What's your argument as to why people are out of work? They want to work but only in those roles that foreign workers are currently occupying?

That really doesn't stand up. People that don't work and are on the dole for months if not years are lazy.

Don't people from outside of the EU have to have work permits to work inside the EU?

If we leave the EU, would that then mean that all non British workers would need work permits to work here?

What about British workers in EU countries? Would they then need work permits to keep working outside of UK?

Can anybody answer these questions?

Why are these people out of work in the first place? - I don't know....................

If they are able to train, they would have trained themselves via vocational colleges already and be in work.............it's not that simple and you know it isn't, life happens when you are busy making plans

What's your argument as to why people are out of work? They want to work but only in those roles that foreign workers are currently occupying? - no, but we are talking about immigration and the EU so that is what is relevant to the discussion, although you are disagreeing with everyone and I'm starting to think you are a bit odd

That really doesn't stand up. People that don't work and are on the dole for months if not years are lazy.- what a silly naive thing to say, you should be ashamed of that comment

Glenghis, I think those already employed on either side of the channel would continue to do so for a grace period.

After that it will be for the employers to sponsor the visa's of their staff or similar. More red tape!

comment by really? (U17250)
posted 1 hour, 32 minutes ago
If you say so, but why don't we have an accurate record?**

well with not working for the government I wouldnt really know, and it's not if I say so its just the truth, the EU doesn't control our borders but people from within the EU can move from place to place as part of EU rules, we don't have a say on that unless we leave the regime
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Why don;t we have an accurate record? you need to ask the UK government that, they are responsible, leaving Europe will not change that.

Not sure what point you are trying to make with your 2nd part but we can only control that movement if we impose restrictions, if we do that then restrictions on our movement will also be put in place, this will not benefit us.

comment by really? (U17250)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
So you do want to, I've asked why..

You haven't answered.**

I want a controlled immigration policy, you just keep asking me (like a typical whining liberal looking for an angle) why I want to stop people coming here from the EU and the answer is I don't, I want us to be able to choose which people we take from all over the world including the EU, now have you got your head around this now?
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I'd like more control in this area as well, I think we can get that by working within the EU framework. I believe we have already begun.

comment by Paddy (U14157)
posted 57 minutes ago
Whatever anyone says house prices falling will be a BAD thing, whether or not this will actually happen with Brexit.

It will lead to a load of people who have desperately saved to get on the property ladder having negative equity.
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so all the young people who cant afford a home get fked over? looks like ill have to rent for the rest of my life.

That really doesn't stand up. People that don't work and are on the dole for months if not years are lazy.- what a silly naive thing to say, you should be ashamed of that comment

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Why should I be? There's people that travel literally thousands of km's away from their homes to work in the UK, yet those in the UK can't / won't?

Are they just waiting for someone from abroad to work first and then train them?

Your argument doesn't make sense.. What is stopping these people from working in the first place that they continue to live on the dole?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36379934

a new low point for the remain camp and the referendum in general I hope this encourages more undecided voters to vote leave

A low point for the remain camp? Why? Is that advert arguing in defence of remain?

If you're the poster boy for Brexit, remain seems the only option.

thats a really strange poster, just looks like a guy abusing a foreigner, how does that get across that everyone has a vote

Magnus Djaba, chief executive of Saatchi and Saatchi London, the ad agency which created the poster, said: "This is a message about democracy, not a message about race. Whichever community you're from, it hits home."

ffs!

From the same ad company that gave us "Britains not working..."

Who's a foreigner? In that poster the one pointing the finger could be a foreigner while the other person is a member of the commonwealth / old British empire