utterly laughable, hoody tells us he can "guarantee" a fact, offers no evidence at the time, 48 hours later provides us with some unexplained numbers, and then takes the moral high ground?
if you really want to carry on this tiresome debate then:
a) you haven't shown anyone up here but yourself;
b) you'll excuse me if i don't trust a website that lists keane's cost as £7m, when it was widely established at the time as a UK transfer record at £3.75m. or one that claims that neil ruddock's transfer cost was "?";
c) your initial claim was that during no season in the PL have pool had a more expensive squad then united, so giving us some numbers for a single season proves nothing;
d) where do your numbers even come from? unless i've overlooked something on that site, nowhere does it give a squad value per season. i presume you have worked it out yourself but - and don't take this the wrong way - unless you actually show your workings i wouldn't trust you to add stuff up correctly, even with a calculator.
personally, and i may have been overestimating you, i had assumed that you would prove the costs of the two squads by, you know, showing the two squads with the cost of each player (or at least the 10-15 most expensive ones)...not just posting a link to a website that you posted 2 days ago;
e) on your own numbers the difference in squad cost in that season was c. £4.5m; over the next 3 seasons, using your (unreliable) website, united spent less than £18m (including keane at £7m[sic]), pool spent over £30m. united got rid of hughes, kanchelskis, ince, wallace, robson, dublin and others; pool got rid of walters, stewart, d!cks, and clough and others.
now i really can't be bothered to work all that out, but that would tell me that there was a very good chance that at some point your squad cost did overtake ours.
to repeat - giving some bare figures for one year, without showing how you got there, is not showing us all up. you did that to yourself 2 days ago when talking b()ll()cks.
f) and my evidence of you making a statement with no evidence, then tasking others with proving or disproving it, is this thread. i don't need to go any further at all thanks.
so yeah, carry on with the personal abuse, it seems to be your bag, but don't use it to conceal your own inadequacies.
comment by Cornelius Oofterom (U15867)
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That's just the 1st season though isn't it?
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hoody spends so much time getting angry, and trying to turn a football debate into a cross between a personal vendetta and a class war, that he often overlooks these tiny logical flaws in his "arguments"
"yes, that seems to be the way it works with you, you make a statement without any evidence to back it up, then put the burden on other people to do the work to disprove your assertion."
Hmmmm. So obviously he has evidence of this, to hand, otherwise he'd be a massive hypocrite which would add to the ever increasing list of idiosyncrasies like pretentiousness, arrogance and petulance.
I await.
Don, why oh why are you still arguing this. You don't really need any facts or stats to know that hoody is far, far more likely to be right on this one. We've spent more money than them, we have/had better players therefore we will have had a squad worth more if in not all, nearly every season.
Why is this so important to you? Hoody is more than likely correct.
comment by Quincey peacock, esq. (U19119)
posted 1 minute ago
Don, why oh why are you still arguing this. You don't really need any facts or stats to know that hoody is far, far more likely to be right on this one. We've spent more money than them, we have/had better players therefore we will have had a squad worth more if in not all, nearly every season.
Why is this so important to you? Hoody is more than likely correct.
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actually, he is very likely to be wrong. see my point e) above.
Actually there are three seasons where I am not and I was led to believe otherwise by a newspaper article years ago based on that whole Rafa and Fergie argument.
Still I'm sure Don is not a hypocrite and he can back up his statement otherwise he looks an utter tw@t.
Your turn Don. Btw calling someone angry when your bashing a book away on your keyboard doesn't hold much credence. Still as long as you're not angry.
I find it interesting that my source is inaccurate but yours is gospel. Seems a touch arrogant and as said I'm surprise no-one has picked up on this.
Oh wait.
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Quincey peacock, esq. (U19119)
posted 1 minute ago
Don, why oh why are you still arguing this. You don't really need any facts or stats to know that hoody is far, far more likely to be right on this one. We've spent more money than them, we have/had better players therefore we will have had a squad worth more if in not all, nearly every season.
Why is this so important to you? Hoody is more than likely correct.
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actually, he is very likely to be wrong. see my point e) above.
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As I said most seasons. There will be the odd one they spent/had more valuable squad, but I'd suspect 90% time we did.
comment by Robbing_Hoody (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Actually there are three seasons where I am not and I was led to believe otherwise by a newspaper article years ago based on that whole Rafa and Fergie argument.
Still I'm sure Don is not a hypocrite and he can back up his statement otherwise he looks an utter tw@t.
Your turn Don. Btw calling someone angry when your bashing a book away on your keyboard doesn't hold much credence. Still as long as you're not angry.
I find it interesting that my source is inaccurate but yours is gospel. Seems a touch arrogant and as said I'm surprise no-one has picked up on this.
Oh wait.
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so there are three seasons where you are wrong?
so what statement am i supposed to be backing up?
i don't need to check every number to see that your source is completely wrong on keane:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2009/apr/23/roy-keane-career-highs-lows
so to conclude you read a newspaper article a few years ago - a link to which you have never bothered to provide by the way - and either you or the article were wrong. so i think that settles that, thanks.
is there anything else that needs sorting, or are we done?
comment by Quincey peacock, esq. (U19119)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Quincey peacock, esq. (U19119)
posted 1 minute ago
Don, why oh why are you still arguing this. You don't really need any facts or stats to know that hoody is far, far more likely to be right on this one. We've spent more money than them, we have/had better players therefore we will have had a squad worth more if in not all, nearly every season.
Why is this so important to you? Hoody is more than likely correct.
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actually, he is very likely to be wrong. see my point e) above.
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As I said most seasons. There will be the odd one they spent/had more valuable squad, but I'd suspect 90% time we did.
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agree absolutely.
and if hoody had simply said "well for most of the PL you had a more expensive squad" there would have been do doubt, debate, or mud slinging.
instead he stormed onto the thread, suggested other posters were ignoring the facts, stated a "fact" of his own that he could "guarantee", and then when challenged came back 48 hours later with nothing but a link to a transfer website. in the meantime he seemed to suffer some sort of breakdown, and collapsed into a mass of seething indignation and insults.
other than that, nothing to see here.
"yes, that seems to be the way it works with you, you make a statement without any evidence to back it up, then put the burden on other people to do the work to disprove your assertion."
This statement Don. You'll have all the evidence to hand I'm sure and absolutely won't try and wriggle out. I write literally thousands of comments and I'm asking for just a couple. Off you go....
comment by Robbing_Hoody (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
"yes, that seems to be the way it works with you, you make a statement without any evidence to back it up, then put the burden on other people to do the work to disprove your assertion."
This statement Don. You'll have all the evidence to hand I'm sure and absolutely won't try and wriggle out. I write literally thousands of comments and I'm asking for just a couple. Off you go....
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It is a fact. At no point have Liverpool had a more expensive squad in the Prem. Feel free to check and throw in wages too if you wish.
If you add up the cost of the squad each year I can guarantee you Utd have a more expensive squad each season in the Premier league.
Okay. What about the stuff about me seeing as it's such a hang up for you. As said there is no way you'll try and wriggle out of this. You're the best, better than all the rest.
Just post your evidence that you already had to hand. Not hard surely cos you're not an arrogant hypocritical bellsniff.
comment by Robbing_Hoody (U6374)
posted 19 seconds ago
Okay. What about the stuff about me seeing as it's such a hang up for you. As said there is no way you'll try and wriggle out of this. You're the best, better than all the rest.
Just post your evidence that you already had to hand. Not hard surely cos you're not an arrogant hypocritical bellsniff.
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isn't 48 hours of humiliation on this thread enough for you? you have still provided no evidence at all for your argument on here - your mythical newspaper article may or may not exist, we sure as f@ck haven't been shown a link - so i'll be b@ggered if i'm going to waste any more of my time on you.
and if you spent more time thinking about your arguments, and less time throwing puerile personal insults, maybe you wouldn't get yourself into such a tangle.
and quincey, i can tell you that i forgot about this thread 2 days ago - you can see that i made no comments at all yesterday for instance. and i would have happily ignored it forever, and not lost a moment's sleep over it, but for hoody's desire to turn every discussion into a personal duel.
but if you think it's f@cking boring for you to read it, it's even more boring me having to write this sh!t.
even now we can see that, rather than chowing down on some humble pie, having been proven to be a liar, he just wants to prod, and prod, and prod some more.
i'd give this online debating stuff up if i were you hoody, you're really not very good at it.
Didn't read any of that. Are you going to post your evidence in the in tress of parity or not?
Good stuff. Found the time to write about 1000 words (because you're not bothered) but can't live by your own rules and absolutely won't try and wriggle out of this.
Stay classy.
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posted on 22/6/17
utterly laughable, hoody tells us he can "guarantee" a fact, offers no evidence at the time, 48 hours later provides us with some unexplained numbers, and then takes the moral high ground?
if you really want to carry on this tiresome debate then:
a) you haven't shown anyone up here but yourself;
b) you'll excuse me if i don't trust a website that lists keane's cost as £7m, when it was widely established at the time as a UK transfer record at £3.75m. or one that claims that neil ruddock's transfer cost was "?";
c) your initial claim was that during no season in the PL have pool had a more expensive squad then united, so giving us some numbers for a single season proves nothing;
d) where do your numbers even come from? unless i've overlooked something on that site, nowhere does it give a squad value per season. i presume you have worked it out yourself but - and don't take this the wrong way - unless you actually show your workings i wouldn't trust you to add stuff up correctly, even with a calculator.
personally, and i may have been overestimating you, i had assumed that you would prove the costs of the two squads by, you know, showing the two squads with the cost of each player (or at least the 10-15 most expensive ones)...not just posting a link to a website that you posted 2 days ago;
e) on your own numbers the difference in squad cost in that season was c. £4.5m; over the next 3 seasons, using your (unreliable) website, united spent less than £18m (including keane at £7m[sic]), pool spent over £30m. united got rid of hughes, kanchelskis, ince, wallace, robson, dublin and others; pool got rid of walters, stewart, d!cks, and clough and others.
now i really can't be bothered to work all that out, but that would tell me that there was a very good chance that at some point your squad cost did overtake ours.
to repeat - giving some bare figures for one year, without showing how you got there, is not showing us all up. you did that to yourself 2 days ago when talking b()ll()cks.
f) and my evidence of you making a statement with no evidence, then tasking others with proving or disproving it, is this thread. i don't need to go any further at all thanks.
so yeah, carry on with the personal abuse, it seems to be your bag, but don't use it to conceal your own inadequacies.
posted on 22/6/17
comment by Cornelius Oofterom (U15867)
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That's just the 1st season though isn't it?
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hoody spends so much time getting angry, and trying to turn a football debate into a cross between a personal vendetta and a class war, that he often overlooks these tiny logical flaws in his "arguments"
posted on 22/6/17
"yes, that seems to be the way it works with you, you make a statement without any evidence to back it up, then put the burden on other people to do the work to disprove your assertion."
Hmmmm. So obviously he has evidence of this, to hand, otherwise he'd be a massive hypocrite which would add to the ever increasing list of idiosyncrasies like pretentiousness, arrogance and petulance.
I await.
posted on 22/6/17
Don, why oh why are you still arguing this. You don't really need any facts or stats to know that hoody is far, far more likely to be right on this one. We've spent more money than them, we have/had better players therefore we will have had a squad worth more if in not all, nearly every season.
Why is this so important to you? Hoody is more than likely correct.
posted on 22/6/17
comment by Quincey peacock, esq. (U19119)
posted 1 minute ago
Don, why oh why are you still arguing this. You don't really need any facts or stats to know that hoody is far, far more likely to be right on this one. We've spent more money than them, we have/had better players therefore we will have had a squad worth more if in not all, nearly every season.
Why is this so important to you? Hoody is more than likely correct.
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actually, he is very likely to be wrong. see my point e) above.
posted on 22/6/17
Actually there are three seasons where I am not and I was led to believe otherwise by a newspaper article years ago based on that whole Rafa and Fergie argument.
Still I'm sure Don is not a hypocrite and he can back up his statement otherwise he looks an utter tw@t.
Your turn Don. Btw calling someone angry when your bashing a book away on your keyboard doesn't hold much credence. Still as long as you're not angry.
I find it interesting that my source is inaccurate but yours is gospel. Seems a touch arrogant and as said I'm surprise no-one has picked up on this.
Oh wait.
posted on 22/6/17
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Quincey peacock, esq. (U19119)
posted 1 minute ago
Don, why oh why are you still arguing this. You don't really need any facts or stats to know that hoody is far, far more likely to be right on this one. We've spent more money than them, we have/had better players therefore we will have had a squad worth more if in not all, nearly every season.
Why is this so important to you? Hoody is more than likely correct.
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actually, he is very likely to be wrong. see my point e) above.
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As I said most seasons. There will be the odd one they spent/had more valuable squad, but I'd suspect 90% time we did.
posted on 22/6/17
comment by Robbing_Hoody (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Actually there are three seasons where I am not and I was led to believe otherwise by a newspaper article years ago based on that whole Rafa and Fergie argument.
Still I'm sure Don is not a hypocrite and he can back up his statement otherwise he looks an utter tw@t.
Your turn Don. Btw calling someone angry when your bashing a book away on your keyboard doesn't hold much credence. Still as long as you're not angry.
I find it interesting that my source is inaccurate but yours is gospel. Seems a touch arrogant and as said I'm surprise no-one has picked up on this.
Oh wait.
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so there are three seasons where you are wrong?
so what statement am i supposed to be backing up?
i don't need to check every number to see that your source is completely wrong on keane:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2009/apr/23/roy-keane-career-highs-lows
so to conclude you read a newspaper article a few years ago - a link to which you have never bothered to provide by the way - and either you or the article were wrong. so i think that settles that, thanks.
is there anything else that needs sorting, or are we done?
posted on 22/6/17
comment by Quincey peacock, esq. (U19119)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Quincey peacock, esq. (U19119)
posted 1 minute ago
Don, why oh why are you still arguing this. You don't really need any facts or stats to know that hoody is far, far more likely to be right on this one. We've spent more money than them, we have/had better players therefore we will have had a squad worth more if in not all, nearly every season.
Why is this so important to you? Hoody is more than likely correct.
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actually, he is very likely to be wrong. see my point e) above.
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As I said most seasons. There will be the odd one they spent/had more valuable squad, but I'd suspect 90% time we did.
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agree absolutely.
and if hoody had simply said "well for most of the PL you had a more expensive squad" there would have been do doubt, debate, or mud slinging.
instead he stormed onto the thread, suggested other posters were ignoring the facts, stated a "fact" of his own that he could "guarantee", and then when challenged came back 48 hours later with nothing but a link to a transfer website. in the meantime he seemed to suffer some sort of breakdown, and collapsed into a mass of seething indignation and insults.
other than that, nothing to see here.
posted on 22/6/17
"yes, that seems to be the way it works with you, you make a statement without any evidence to back it up, then put the burden on other people to do the work to disprove your assertion."
This statement Don. You'll have all the evidence to hand I'm sure and absolutely won't try and wriggle out. I write literally thousands of comments and I'm asking for just a couple. Off you go....
posted on 22/6/17
comment by Robbing_Hoody (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
"yes, that seems to be the way it works with you, you make a statement without any evidence to back it up, then put the burden on other people to do the work to disprove your assertion."
This statement Don. You'll have all the evidence to hand I'm sure and absolutely won't try and wriggle out. I write literally thousands of comments and I'm asking for just a couple. Off you go....
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It is a fact. At no point have Liverpool had a more expensive squad in the Prem. Feel free to check and throw in wages too if you wish.
If you add up the cost of the squad each year I can guarantee you Utd have a more expensive squad each season in the Premier league.
posted on 22/6/17
Okay. What about the stuff about me seeing as it's such a hang up for you. As said there is no way you'll try and wriggle out of this. You're the best, better than all the rest.
Just post your evidence that you already had to hand. Not hard surely cos you're not an arrogant hypocritical bellsniff.
posted on 22/6/17
comment by Robbing_Hoody (U6374)
posted 19 seconds ago
Okay. What about the stuff about me seeing as it's such a hang up for you. As said there is no way you'll try and wriggle out of this. You're the best, better than all the rest.
Just post your evidence that you already had to hand. Not hard surely cos you're not an arrogant hypocritical bellsniff.
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isn't 48 hours of humiliation on this thread enough for you? you have still provided no evidence at all for your argument on here - your mythical newspaper article may or may not exist, we sure as f@ck haven't been shown a link - so i'll be b@ggered if i'm going to waste any more of my time on you.
and if you spent more time thinking about your arguments, and less time throwing puerile personal insults, maybe you wouldn't get yourself into such a tangle.
and quincey, i can tell you that i forgot about this thread 2 days ago - you can see that i made no comments at all yesterday for instance. and i would have happily ignored it forever, and not lost a moment's sleep over it, but for hoody's desire to turn every discussion into a personal duel.
but if you think it's f@cking boring for you to read it, it's even more boring me having to write this sh!t.
even now we can see that, rather than chowing down on some humble pie, having been proven to be a liar, he just wants to prod, and prod, and prod some more.
i'd give this online debating stuff up if i were you hoody, you're really not very good at it.
posted on 22/6/17
Didn't read any of that. Are you going to post your evidence in the in tress of parity or not?
posted on 22/6/17
Good stuff. Found the time to write about 1000 words (because you're not bothered) but can't live by your own rules and absolutely won't try and wriggle out of this.
Stay classy.
posted on 5/10/21
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