comment by Ledders The King - Football Manager Icon. (U20121)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by GeniusGreaves Optimist Supreme (U1302)
posted 7 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by GeniusGreaves Optimist Supreme (U1302)
posted 12 minutes ago
No it wasn't a lie, I have no knowledge of any bids and neither do you.
I will criticise when I think it is necessary, however we are operated in a good way and have a carefully constructed financial set up.
You might not remember but I do, when the club was only days away from bankruptcy, I certainly do not want to return to those days.
Maybe when we have the new stadium and won a trophy or two, we might just be able to offer the wages that the United's, City's and Chelsea's of this World currently do.
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So you must think Levy is perfect then because we'd be hard pressed to find you ever criticise him for anything, even if evidence was provided to show how he messed something up.
Nobody said or implied anything about offering Man City-style 200k a week wages so not too sure why you felt the need to exaggerate what Hengy and others are suggesting we should do to push on.
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No I don't think Levy is perfect, but he gets far more right than he gets wrong in my opinion.
As for exaggerating anything, I simply pointed out that we cannot hope to compete with some other PL clubs in terms of wages and fees offered.
Which is why we lost out to Chelsea for both Batshuayi and Willian
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Really flawed logic.
If he gets more right than wrong, say on a 70/30 ratio, you ignore the 30 rather than give praise and criticism when it's due?
Could find load of links of examples where Levy has got it wrong but I'm going to work soon, off the top of my head, stretching out the Berbatov sale for an extra couple of million just to get Frazier Campbell on loan
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Sacking Jol mid game
The way he goes about in transfer dealings.
Tim Sherwood
Etc etc
comment by Hengy (U9129)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 2 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by Hengy (U9129)
posted 9 hours, 44 minutes ago
Btw you can easily sign players and not have them holding a shirt.
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I would be very very surprised if clubs are not contractually obliged to have new signings either in the shirt, holding the shirt, dressed in their clobber or have the logo plastered behind them.
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Not really, could easily announce we are signing a certain player but unveil them once the Nike launch is done.
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If it is announced while under contract to UA, I imagine contractually we would not have that choice.
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Hengy (U9129)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 2 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by Hengy (U9129)
posted 9 hours, 44 minutes ago
Btw you can easily sign players and not have them holding a shirt.
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I would be very very surprised if clubs are not contractually obliged to have new signings either in the shirt, holding the shirt, dressed in their clobber or have the logo plastered behind them.
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Not really, could easily announce we are signing a certain player but unveil them once the Nike launch is done.
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If it is announced while under contract to UA, I imagine contractually we would not have that choice.
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Of course we would because even if the window is open players can't actually be registered until July 1st
Signing and registering are two different things in that case.
If we sign a player, we may be contractually obliged to have them pictured with the UA logo. You do not need to be registered to hold a kit up.
Even if not the case, Nike may well have insisted we do not announce anything until they can get the most publicity out of it
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 49 seconds ago
Signing and registering are two different things in that case.
If we sign a player, we may be contractually obliged to have them pictured with the UA logo. You do not need to be registered to hold a kit up.
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Very much you're contractually to have then pictured at all if you sign a player.
So you believe we would risk missing out on a certain target because we wouldn't want them holding the old kit manufacturers logo?
comment by Hengy (U9129)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 49 seconds ago
Signing and registering are two different things in that case.
If we sign a player, we may be contractually obliged to have them pictured with the UA logo. You do not need to be registered to hold a kit up.
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Very much you're contractually to have then pictured at all if you sign a player.
So you believe we would risk missing out on a certain target because we wouldn't want them holding the old kit manufacturers logo?
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If Nike insisted on it, I am 100% sure Levy would agree to delay signing any players until July 1st to secure them as sponsors.
Pretty sure we could delay the official announcement until necessary. Take the relevant photos and interviews with the shirt, tell said player to stay off social media so as not to reveal where he is until we've announced it and released pics until we're ready?
Securing the biggest deal - possibly even stadium naming yet - with the new stadium in mind would far outweigh any early signing in one window for DL. I would say that with certainty.
They are manufacturers not sponsors and like I put announcing and Unveiling a player can be done at different times.
Reason we have signed anyone is because we aren't close at securing any players in fact it looks like we aren't even close at getting any targets.
This will be a typical last minute rush because we are trying to get players on the cheap nothing to do with what manufacturers want.
On a kit note the club actually pulled away from under amour after the last game of the season.
My mates son plays for the youth disability team and they weren't allowed to play in the under amour kit for there tournament start of the month and played in a plain white no brand top ( was actually a Nike top without the tick on it )
Sorry Hengy, Nike are SPONSORS and manufacturers of our new kit. They would have a big say in whether we could show new signings in a competitor strip, especially as we are getting £150m from them
Again I ask how do you know who our targets are? The club always keeps things very close within a tight circle.
The only potential signing that I know of is Vincent Marcel, which the media are claiming personal terms have already been agreed with him. But how true that is, is anyone's guess.
So far we have been told, by the media that we are close to buying the following players:
Lemar (Winger)
Marcel (striker)
Barkley (midfield)
Ginter (Defender)
Keïta (Midfield)
Sessegnon (wing back)
Mawson (central defender)
Gibson (central defender)
Dembele (striker)
Alena (midfield)
Alves (right back)
Suso (winger)
Zaha (winger)
Gray (winger)
Veltman (defender)
Dahlberg (GK)
Soares (defender)
Knockaert (winger)
Conti (RB)
Meyer (MF)
Toljan (RB)
Silva (MF)
Costa (Winger)
Now if the above was true and we were looking at all of these players, then it would look as though it is a scatter gun approach to scouting.
However it is my belief that in reality if we were serious about any of these players, then that number would be only around 4-5 and not even in danger of approaching the clubs of most of them.
If I personally could select anyone from this list, which is by no means exhaustive, the players I would select to come to Spurs would be:
Mawson
Toljan
Costa
Meyer
Seri (midfield)
Sessegnon (next year)
Plus a decent striker as back up!
These would strengthen our squad exponentially without breaking the bank in terms of wages.
Others views may differ greatly, but in general we have to be realistic and understand that if we bring in players on wages far in excess of our current cap of around £100,000 pw, then it could destabalise the club and the team spirit.
Of course I would love us to sign players like Morata, Lacazette etc, but as always they would want a lot of money in wages etc.
Unfortunately, we just have to wait until any announcements are made in next few weeks
On top of that the new kit signing is a big deal in a way that it wasn't even 2/3 years ago.
We have AJ Tracey (he is a grime artist for you old timers) performing at the kit launch. It has gone very large-scale and I genuinely wouldn't be surprised to see a new signing amongst the kit launch as well.
As an aside, GG, I was just wondering (not having a go) as you are very pro-Levy and I wondered how another average to poor transfer window would effect you. We were not good/proactive enough last summer which hurt us, Signing Mane instead of Sissoko (higher transfer fee for Mane but lower wage) probably would have won us a trophy.
We NEED a marquee signing to stay relevant this season. The players have said it, the pundits have said it and the fans know it. Signing a Thomas Lemar is imperative, and if we miss out because Levy is playing hard ball again (like he has proven to over and over again in the past) I will be furious.
GG again getting comments wrong.
I haven't said I categorically know who we are after although there's a few people close to the club I trust it was YOU who categorically said we haven't bid on anyone insinuating you have insider knowledge then go on multiple times to contradict that stance.
I've said we missed out on players we was interested in no more no less
Also regarding the big say in when players get announced do you think poch would want to miss out on said player because he's got to wait for our manufacturers want us to wait?
Tbh i take your comment with a lot less credibility than I used too as I'm sure you guess and try to play it as you know stuff.
Why we never went in for Lacazette last year I will never know. Such an upgrade on Janssen, literally as proven a goal scorer as you can get in Europe, would have been unreal in Kane's absence.
Hi Edinspur
Depends what you mean by average to poor?
Last year we got Wanyama which was a great bit of business.
Sissoko has indeed been a poor signing, whilst I think the jury is still out on N'Koudo. Janssen is I think a work in progress and could still do a job for us.
However on the plus side, our team & squad are another year older and gaining valuable experience. We lost fewer games than anyone else in the top 4 levels of English football.
We let ourselves down in Europe obviously and one hopes that will be reversed this coming season.
We should have beaten Chelsea in the FA Cup, but didn't for several reasons.
I get your point a marquee signing and you are of course quite right, it would make a statement to the rest that we mean business going forward.
The only downside at if we are competing with Chelsea, City or United for a player, then they will blow us out of the water in terms of wages etc.
I understand why people blame Levy, but he signs the cheques, it is the transfer committee comprising of him, Poch, McDermott & Hitchen who decide who we go for.
Our European scouting network has been overhauled with key changes in Spain, Germany, Italy & Portugal.
Levy is obviously a very hard negotiator, but I can understand why. He has not only to bring in the right players at the right price, he also has to ensure that the club's finances remain strong and stable going forward. This is by no means an easy task.
I would hazard a guess that that quite a few PL clubs would by now have had problems financially if it was not for the Sky & BT money pouring into the game.
So to answer your question, I was annoyed at Levy for getting rid of both Jol & AVB, but not when Harry was sacked.
He now realises he has one of the best young managers in the World, and to keep him then he needs to give him what he wants.
If you think that over the last two years we have brought in Toby, Dele & Victor. All signings who have way exceeded expectations in terms of impact and performance.
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 12 minutes ago
Why we never went in for Lacazette last year I will never know. Such an upgrade on Janssen, literally as proven a goal scorer as you can get in Europe, would have been unreal in Kane's absence.
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Tbh I thought two summers ago we should've got him as last season we priced out. Buckled at the 30+m on Batshuayi letting Chelsea come in and take him although as you know I do really like Janssen.
Agree we need players to push the first X1 otherwise we'll be relying on the same 12/13 players again.
I would say that last summer we didn't exactly sign brilliantly though GG as despite Wanyama being a good signing we didn't really sign players like a top 4 team should. One great but uninspiring signing, two very unproven gambles when we needed extra depth in attack definitely and a shocking panic buy in Sissoko.
Another transfer window like last years might see us miss out with another title challenge considering the intent the other teams around us have signed.
I've said we missed out on players we was interested in no more no less
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How was I wrong Hengy? How do you know we have missed out on players we were interested in? Were we actually interested in them?
I think Poch is much a team player & if the Club wanted to mark an occasion like a new shirt SPONSOR, then I am sure he would be relaxed about any player announcements being made on the same day. Which of course might or might not happen
I have never categorically said we have not bid for anyone, I stated that just like you I don't have insight into who we are or are not bidding for. The club always keeps its cards close to its chest in these matters.
And of course it is guesswork 99% of the time for most of us. I do know someone connected with the club, but he is very discreet and will not divulge anything unless it is already well known across the Club.
I am not worried whether I have credibility with anyone on here, all I am interested in is having sensible conversations and debates on here with like minded people.
Sometimes I am right and sometimes I am wrong.
What I do not like is people on here getting vitriolic and and personally nasty. I stress that is not my opinion of you Hengy, just a few idiots and I think we all know who they are!
Especially next year we know (from last year) that we cannot compete on all fronts with the small squad we have.
Add to that the fact we are playing at Wembley, in which pace is essential, then this summer is unbelivably important for us.
If we signed one of: Lemar, Martial, Lacazette, Costa (Bayern)
& a defensive back up then I will be more than happy (assuming we keep the brilliant Kyle Walker)
comment by GeniusGreaves Optimist Supreme (U1302)
posted 3 minutes ago
I've said we missed out on players we was interested in no more no less
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How was I wrong Hengy? How do you know we have missed out on players we were interested in? Were we actually interested in them?
I think Poch is much a team player & if the Club wanted to mark an occasion like a new shirt SPONSOR, then I am sure he would be relaxed about any player announcements being made on the same day. Which of course might or might not happen
I have never categorically said we have not bid for anyone, I stated that just like you I don't have insight into who we are or are not bidding for. The club always keeps its cards close to its chest in these matters.
And of course it is guesswork 99% of the time for most of us. I do know someone connected with the club, but he is very discreet and will not divulge anything unless it is already well known across the Club.
I am not worried whether I have credibility with anyone on here, all I am interested in is having sensible conversations and debates on here with like minded people.
Sometimes I am right and sometimes I am wrong.
What I do not like is people on here getting vitriolic and and personally nasty. I stress that is not my opinion of you Hengy, just a few idiots and I think we all know who they are!
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Honestly don't think you even realise what you wrote
"for the others we have APPARENTLY missed out on, we have not made any bids so have not missed out on anyone just yet"
You've clearly wrote here we have not made any bids
I'll leave it here with you as clearly not worth continuing
I agree Edinspur. Would love Costa or Lemar. Maybe a cheeky bid for Martial might be in order, lets reverse the traffic flow in regards to United!
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 6 minutes ago
I would say that last summer we didn't exactly sign brilliantly though GG as despite Wanyama being a good signing we didn't really sign players like a top 4 team should. One great but uninspiring signing, two very unproven gambles when we needed extra depth in attack definitely and a shocking panic buy in Sissoko.
Another transfer window like last years might see us miss out with another title challenge considering the intent the other teams around us have signed.
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Last years transfer window was a shocker. Spent £65+m on effectively 1 useful play that we actually didn't really need in Waynama ( i am not saying he's not been worth his fee or he hasn't been very good for us ).
The transfer window before was a decent one though with Toby, Son & Trips coming in.
This is a big one though as it's time to show we are here for the long term and push on.
I'd wanted Sessegnon (for future), Lemar & Barkley although looks like only 1 is now attainable
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posted on 29/6/17
comment by Ledders The King - Football Manager Icon. (U20121)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by GeniusGreaves Optimist Supreme (U1302)
posted 7 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by GeniusGreaves Optimist Supreme (U1302)
posted 12 minutes ago
No it wasn't a lie, I have no knowledge of any bids and neither do you.
I will criticise when I think it is necessary, however we are operated in a good way and have a carefully constructed financial set up.
You might not remember but I do, when the club was only days away from bankruptcy, I certainly do not want to return to those days.
Maybe when we have the new stadium and won a trophy or two, we might just be able to offer the wages that the United's, City's and Chelsea's of this World currently do.
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So you must think Levy is perfect then because we'd be hard pressed to find you ever criticise him for anything, even if evidence was provided to show how he messed something up.
Nobody said or implied anything about offering Man City-style 200k a week wages so not too sure why you felt the need to exaggerate what Hengy and others are suggesting we should do to push on.
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No I don't think Levy is perfect, but he gets far more right than he gets wrong in my opinion.
As for exaggerating anything, I simply pointed out that we cannot hope to compete with some other PL clubs in terms of wages and fees offered.
Which is why we lost out to Chelsea for both Batshuayi and Willian
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Really flawed logic.
If he gets more right than wrong, say on a 70/30 ratio, you ignore the 30 rather than give praise and criticism when it's due?
Could find load of links of examples where Levy has got it wrong but I'm going to work soon, off the top of my head, stretching out the Berbatov sale for an extra couple of million just to get Frazier Campbell on loan
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Sacking Jol mid game
The way he goes about in transfer dealings.
Tim Sherwood
Etc etc
posted on 29/6/17
comment by Hengy (U9129)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 2 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by Hengy (U9129)
posted 9 hours, 44 minutes ago
Btw you can easily sign players and not have them holding a shirt.
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I would be very very surprised if clubs are not contractually obliged to have new signings either in the shirt, holding the shirt, dressed in their clobber or have the logo plastered behind them.
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Not really, could easily announce we are signing a certain player but unveil them once the Nike launch is done.
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If it is announced while under contract to UA, I imagine contractually we would not have that choice.
posted on 29/6/17
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Hengy (U9129)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 2 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by Hengy (U9129)
posted 9 hours, 44 minutes ago
Btw you can easily sign players and not have them holding a shirt.
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I would be very very surprised if clubs are not contractually obliged to have new signings either in the shirt, holding the shirt, dressed in their clobber or have the logo plastered behind them.
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Not really, could easily announce we are signing a certain player but unveil them once the Nike launch is done.
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If it is announced while under contract to UA, I imagine contractually we would not have that choice.
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Of course we would because even if the window is open players can't actually be registered until July 1st
posted on 29/6/17
Signing and registering are two different things in that case.
If we sign a player, we may be contractually obliged to have them pictured with the UA logo. You do not need to be registered to hold a kit up.
posted on 29/6/17
Even if not the case, Nike may well have insisted we do not announce anything until they can get the most publicity out of it
posted on 29/6/17
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 49 seconds ago
Signing and registering are two different things in that case.
If we sign a player, we may be contractually obliged to have them pictured with the UA logo. You do not need to be registered to hold a kit up.
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Very much you're contractually to have then pictured at all if you sign a player.
So you believe we would risk missing out on a certain target because we wouldn't want them holding the old kit manufacturers logo?
posted on 29/6/17
Very much doubt*
posted on 29/6/17
comment by Hengy (U9129)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 49 seconds ago
Signing and registering are two different things in that case.
If we sign a player, we may be contractually obliged to have them pictured with the UA logo. You do not need to be registered to hold a kit up.
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Very much you're contractually to have then pictured at all if you sign a player.
So you believe we would risk missing out on a certain target because we wouldn't want them holding the old kit manufacturers logo?
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If Nike insisted on it, I am 100% sure Levy would agree to delay signing any players until July 1st to secure them as sponsors.
posted on 29/6/17
Pretty sure we could delay the official announcement until necessary. Take the relevant photos and interviews with the shirt, tell said player to stay off social media so as not to reveal where he is until we've announced it and released pics until we're ready?
posted on 29/6/17
Securing the biggest deal - possibly even stadium naming yet - with the new stadium in mind would far outweigh any early signing in one window for DL. I would say that with certainty.
posted on 29/6/17
They are manufacturers not sponsors and like I put announcing and Unveiling a player can be done at different times.
Reason we have signed anyone is because we aren't close at securing any players in fact it looks like we aren't even close at getting any targets.
This will be a typical last minute rush because we are trying to get players on the cheap nothing to do with what manufacturers want.
posted on 29/6/17
We haven't* ( to early )
posted on 29/6/17
On a kit note the club actually pulled away from under amour after the last game of the season.
My mates son plays for the youth disability team and they weren't allowed to play in the under amour kit for there tournament start of the month and played in a plain white no brand top ( was actually a Nike top without the tick on it )
posted on 29/6/17
Sorry Hengy, Nike are SPONSORS and manufacturers of our new kit. They would have a big say in whether we could show new signings in a competitor strip, especially as we are getting £150m from them
Again I ask how do you know who our targets are? The club always keeps things very close within a tight circle.
The only potential signing that I know of is Vincent Marcel, which the media are claiming personal terms have already been agreed with him. But how true that is, is anyone's guess.
So far we have been told, by the media that we are close to buying the following players:
Lemar (Winger)
Marcel (striker)
Barkley (midfield)
Ginter (Defender)
Keïta (Midfield)
Sessegnon (wing back)
Mawson (central defender)
Gibson (central defender)
Dembele (striker)
Alena (midfield)
Alves (right back)
Suso (winger)
Zaha (winger)
Gray (winger)
Veltman (defender)
Dahlberg (GK)
Soares (defender)
Knockaert (winger)
Conti (RB)
Meyer (MF)
Toljan (RB)
Silva (MF)
Costa (Winger)
Now if the above was true and we were looking at all of these players, then it would look as though it is a scatter gun approach to scouting.
However it is my belief that in reality if we were serious about any of these players, then that number would be only around 4-5 and not even in danger of approaching the clubs of most of them.
If I personally could select anyone from this list, which is by no means exhaustive, the players I would select to come to Spurs would be:
Mawson
Toljan
Costa
Meyer
Seri (midfield)
Sessegnon (next year)
Plus a decent striker as back up!
These would strengthen our squad exponentially without breaking the bank in terms of wages.
Others views may differ greatly, but in general we have to be realistic and understand that if we bring in players on wages far in excess of our current cap of around £100,000 pw, then it could destabalise the club and the team spirit.
Of course I would love us to sign players like Morata, Lacazette etc, but as always they would want a lot of money in wages etc.
Unfortunately, we just have to wait until any announcements are made in next few weeks
posted on 29/6/17
On top of that the new kit signing is a big deal in a way that it wasn't even 2/3 years ago.
We have AJ Tracey (he is a grime artist for you old timers) performing at the kit launch. It has gone very large-scale and I genuinely wouldn't be surprised to see a new signing amongst the kit launch as well.
As an aside, GG, I was just wondering (not having a go) as you are very pro-Levy and I wondered how another average to poor transfer window would effect you. We were not good/proactive enough last summer which hurt us, Signing Mane instead of Sissoko (higher transfer fee for Mane but lower wage) probably would have won us a trophy.
We NEED a marquee signing to stay relevant this season. The players have said it, the pundits have said it and the fans know it. Signing a Thomas Lemar is imperative, and if we miss out because Levy is playing hard ball again (like he has proven to over and over again in the past) I will be furious.
posted on 29/6/17
GG again getting comments wrong.
I haven't said I categorically know who we are after although there's a few people close to the club I trust it was YOU who categorically said we haven't bid on anyone insinuating you have insider knowledge then go on multiple times to contradict that stance.
I've said we missed out on players we was interested in no more no less
Also regarding the big say in when players get announced do you think poch would want to miss out on said player because he's got to wait for our manufacturers want us to wait?
Tbh i take your comment with a lot less credibility than I used too as I'm sure you guess and try to play it as you know stuff.
posted on 29/6/17
Why we never went in for Lacazette last year I will never know. Such an upgrade on Janssen, literally as proven a goal scorer as you can get in Europe, would have been unreal in Kane's absence.
posted on 29/6/17
Hi Edinspur
Depends what you mean by average to poor?
Last year we got Wanyama which was a great bit of business.
Sissoko has indeed been a poor signing, whilst I think the jury is still out on N'Koudo. Janssen is I think a work in progress and could still do a job for us.
However on the plus side, our team & squad are another year older and gaining valuable experience. We lost fewer games than anyone else in the top 4 levels of English football.
We let ourselves down in Europe obviously and one hopes that will be reversed this coming season.
We should have beaten Chelsea in the FA Cup, but didn't for several reasons.
I get your point a marquee signing and you are of course quite right, it would make a statement to the rest that we mean business going forward.
The only downside at if we are competing with Chelsea, City or United for a player, then they will blow us out of the water in terms of wages etc.
I understand why people blame Levy, but he signs the cheques, it is the transfer committee comprising of him, Poch, McDermott & Hitchen who decide who we go for.
Our European scouting network has been overhauled with key changes in Spain, Germany, Italy & Portugal.
Levy is obviously a very hard negotiator, but I can understand why. He has not only to bring in the right players at the right price, he also has to ensure that the club's finances remain strong and stable going forward. This is by no means an easy task.
I would hazard a guess that that quite a few PL clubs would by now have had problems financially if it was not for the Sky & BT money pouring into the game.
So to answer your question, I was annoyed at Levy for getting rid of both Jol & AVB, but not when Harry was sacked.
He now realises he has one of the best young managers in the World, and to keep him then he needs to give him what he wants.
If you think that over the last two years we have brought in Toby, Dele & Victor. All signings who have way exceeded expectations in terms of impact and performance.
posted on 29/6/17
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 12 minutes ago
Why we never went in for Lacazette last year I will never know. Such an upgrade on Janssen, literally as proven a goal scorer as you can get in Europe, would have been unreal in Kane's absence.
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Tbh I thought two summers ago we should've got him as last season we priced out. Buckled at the 30+m on Batshuayi letting Chelsea come in and take him although as you know I do really like Janssen.
Agree we need players to push the first X1 otherwise we'll be relying on the same 12/13 players again.
posted on 29/6/17
I would say that last summer we didn't exactly sign brilliantly though GG as despite Wanyama being a good signing we didn't really sign players like a top 4 team should. One great but uninspiring signing, two very unproven gambles when we needed extra depth in attack definitely and a shocking panic buy in Sissoko.
Another transfer window like last years might see us miss out with another title challenge considering the intent the other teams around us have signed.
posted on 29/6/17
I've said we missed out on players we was interested in no more no less
_________________________________
How was I wrong Hengy? How do you know we have missed out on players we were interested in? Were we actually interested in them?
I think Poch is much a team player & if the Club wanted to mark an occasion like a new shirt SPONSOR, then I am sure he would be relaxed about any player announcements being made on the same day. Which of course might or might not happen
I have never categorically said we have not bid for anyone, I stated that just like you I don't have insight into who we are or are not bidding for. The club always keeps its cards close to its chest in these matters.
And of course it is guesswork 99% of the time for most of us. I do know someone connected with the club, but he is very discreet and will not divulge anything unless it is already well known across the Club.
I am not worried whether I have credibility with anyone on here, all I am interested in is having sensible conversations and debates on here with like minded people.
Sometimes I am right and sometimes I am wrong.
What I do not like is people on here getting vitriolic and and personally nasty. I stress that is not my opinion of you Hengy, just a few idiots and I think we all know who they are!
posted on 29/6/17
Especially next year we know (from last year) that we cannot compete on all fronts with the small squad we have.
Add to that the fact we are playing at Wembley, in which pace is essential, then this summer is unbelivably important for us.
If we signed one of: Lemar, Martial, Lacazette, Costa (Bayern)
& a defensive back up then I will be more than happy (assuming we keep the brilliant Kyle Walker)
posted on 29/6/17
comment by GeniusGreaves Optimist Supreme (U1302)
posted 3 minutes ago
I've said we missed out on players we was interested in no more no less
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How was I wrong Hengy? How do you know we have missed out on players we were interested in? Were we actually interested in them?
I think Poch is much a team player & if the Club wanted to mark an occasion like a new shirt SPONSOR, then I am sure he would be relaxed about any player announcements being made on the same day. Which of course might or might not happen
I have never categorically said we have not bid for anyone, I stated that just like you I don't have insight into who we are or are not bidding for. The club always keeps its cards close to its chest in these matters.
And of course it is guesswork 99% of the time for most of us. I do know someone connected with the club, but he is very discreet and will not divulge anything unless it is already well known across the Club.
I am not worried whether I have credibility with anyone on here, all I am interested in is having sensible conversations and debates on here with like minded people.
Sometimes I am right and sometimes I am wrong.
What I do not like is people on here getting vitriolic and and personally nasty. I stress that is not my opinion of you Hengy, just a few idiots and I think we all know who they are!
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Honestly don't think you even realise what you wrote
"for the others we have APPARENTLY missed out on, we have not made any bids so have not missed out on anyone just yet"
You've clearly wrote here we have not made any bids
I'll leave it here with you as clearly not worth continuing
posted on 29/6/17
I agree Edinspur. Would love Costa or Lemar. Maybe a cheeky bid for Martial might be in order, lets reverse the traffic flow in regards to United!
posted on 29/6/17
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 6 minutes ago
I would say that last summer we didn't exactly sign brilliantly though GG as despite Wanyama being a good signing we didn't really sign players like a top 4 team should. One great but uninspiring signing, two very unproven gambles when we needed extra depth in attack definitely and a shocking panic buy in Sissoko.
Another transfer window like last years might see us miss out with another title challenge considering the intent the other teams around us have signed.
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Last years transfer window was a shocker. Spent £65+m on effectively 1 useful play that we actually didn't really need in Waynama ( i am not saying he's not been worth his fee or he hasn't been very good for us ).
The transfer window before was a decent one though with Toby, Son & Trips coming in.
This is a big one though as it's time to show we are here for the long term and push on.
I'd wanted Sessegnon (for future), Lemar & Barkley although looks like only 1 is now attainable
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