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Distinctive lapels and side vents.

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Tasseled loafers.

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NEW UK Wholesale gas prices top £4.50 a therm - a record…

Up £2 in 24 hours from already elevated levels.

Fallen back a little, but still at incredible levels above £4

https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1498949735788523521?s=21

We are all gonna be bankrupt

comment by Harry Ambrose (U11781)
posted 4 minutes ago
Russian forces have taken control of the city of Kherson, the Russian army claims, in what would be the first city of significance to fall to Vladimir Putin's invasion.

Faaack
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“ A missile reportedly struck the Babyn Yar Holocaust Memorial Centre which is close by.

It is built on Europe's largest mass grave, where N*** death squads killed more than 33,000 Jewish people in 1941.“

Putin’s claims about Ukraine being the n***’s in this situation ring a bit hollow.

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comment by Harry Ambrose (U11781)
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Russian forces have taken control of the city of Kherson, the Russian army claims, in what would be the first city of significance to fall to Vladimir Putin's invasion.

Faaack
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“ A missile reportedly struck the Babyn Yar Holocaust Memorial Centre which is close by.

It is built on Europe's largest mass grave, where N*** death squads killed more than 33,000 Jewish people in 1941.“

Putin’s claims about Ukraine being the n***’s in this situation ring a bit hollow.

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He’s the biggest naaazi of all

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God I love TikTok 😂

Ukrainian tiktokers are uploading instructional videos on how to operate abandoned Russian tanks. Live from abandoned Russian tanks 😂

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NEW UK Wholesale gas prices top £4.50 a therm - a record…

Up £2 in 24 hours from already elevated levels.

Fallen back a little, but still at incredible levels above £4

https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1498949735788523521?s=21

We are all gonna be bankrupt
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Invest in thermal underwear. 👍
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What makes you think I haven’t done already??

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The wider point in the thread is legitimate - which is that backing Putin into a corner could have serious consequences no matter how just so we should weigh it up seriously, while as you suggested - calling for X,Y,Z without realising their complexities or unintended consequences is a problem.

The calls for a no-fly zone are the latest example of this.

Such zones are enforced, not declared, and its really not hard to make a fairly credible chain of events from NATO planes above Kiev to World War Three.
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I agree,

I also however dont wish to live in a world where Putin can act out his imperialist fantasies without reproach because he has nukes..

There will come a time, in several years perhaps where you have a madman in charge of an ultra capitalist regime the size of the old USSR and he turns his sights ever westwards in to europe.

The more you give a bully the more he takes, and yes hes threatening with his nukes, but if we are suggesting that MAD isnt the deterrent we thought it was, can we at least scrap trident? because clearly it doesnt work if we are too frightened and cowed to stand up for what is right.

They bombed a preschool yesterday.... they are bombing civilian buildings today... Do we let them roll across all the former soviet states? Do you want putin to have that much power?

Luckily we have no power here.
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I recognise where your outlook comes from but I think there are options in between US planes (will have to be America tbh) fighting Russians in the sky and potentially triggering a world war - and doing nothing.

In this case - isolating Russia from the world and funding Ukraine's defence seems legitimate.

If that fails, recognise we are likely in a new cold war - and frankly I am very much in preference to a cold war than a hot war that jeopardises 8 billion people.
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I agree totally there are a great many steps between the two, and they need to be taken sensibly.

All I'm saying is that we can't rule out the fact that we may need to join the war at *some* point. I'm not suggesting we rush there, I think it all depends on how barbaric it gets.
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I agree there is a point at which a war with Russia is preferable to not going to war with Russia - but I do think we are still some way from it though, which is why I don't support enforcing a no-fly zone.

I appreciate you may block me and find me repellent for this - but the honest answer from me is I am not prepared to go to war directly with Russia over Ukraine.

I would prefer to a) fund Ukraine's defence and b) when that probably fails - utterly isolate Russia by all means we can.

If Putin then decides to continue into NATO countries, you're right - the least worst option could be risking nuclear war.

Not because i think NATO countries matter more than Ukraine but because it would represent that Russia in no way can otherwise be managed.
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Not going to block you for a reasoned difference of opinion.

I just block bots.

First food banks, now bedding banks: in my time in politics, this is the worst poverty I’ve seen - Gordon Brown

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/01/food-banks-bedding-banks-worst-poverty-gordon-brown?

Tory Britain.

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Front line workers back to being 5hit again. That didn't take long.
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I'm glad you're not one to generalise Hector.
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Specific response to a specific reply.
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This ^^^ Hector is salt of the earth, representative of the worker type. He’s not calling frontline workers sheeet
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Lol
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I picture a non-ginger grounds keeper Willie beating up the suits that get in his way
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And you're a fat, baldy, specky 1990's M+S suit wearing mid manager with delusions of power over your 2 underlings.
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Way to go insulting. Grounds keeper Willie is a great character, it wasn’t meant to be insulting. But defensive there Hector.

As it happens I’m a 6 foot slim full head of hair, clear complexion, Hugo boss / DKNY / French Connection suit (almost exclusively navy), company owner that employs people.

You were close though, I did love the 90s. Much better than what came after.

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comment by Don't Shoot 🕊️ (U10408)
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Distinctive lapels and side vents.
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And don't forget the craaaaaazzy socks!
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K I’ll admit to this. I do like my stripes

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First food banks, now bedding banks: in my time in politics, this is the worst poverty I’ve seen - Gordon Brown

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/01/food-banks-bedding-banks-worst-poverty-gordon-brown?

Tory Britain.
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But, but, equality of opportunity!!!!
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And there’s baby banks now as well. A supposed G7 country with baby banks, you’d think I was living in Iraq.

As it happens I’m a 6 foot slim full head of hair, clear complexion, Hugo boss / DKNY / French Connection suit (almost exclusively navy), company owner that employs people.
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It’s fun to pretend on the internet

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According to the minimum income standard, the full cost of food, gas, electricity, water and home insurance for our family of four is £153 a week, leaving only £4.30 a day per person to cover everything else – from clothes, mobiles and laundry to bedding, toilet rolls and other sanitary goods.

Crazy.

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Front line workers back to being 5hit again. That didn't take long.
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I'm glad you're not one to generalise Hector.
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Specific response to a specific reply.
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This ^^^ Hector is salt of the earth, representative of the worker type. He’s not calling frontline workers sheeet
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Lol
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I picture a non-ginger grounds keeper Willie beating up the suits that get in his way
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And you're a fat, baldy, specky 1990's M+S suit wearing mid manager with delusions of power over your 2 underlings.
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Way to go insulting. Grounds keeper Willie is a great character, it wasn’t meant to be insulting. But defensive there Hector.

As it happens I’m a 6 foot slim full head of hair, clear complexion, Hugo boss / DKNY / French Connection suit (almost exclusively navy), company owner that employs people.

You were close though, I did love the 90s. Much better than what came after.
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I play along with your little stereotype game and I'm defensive, aye okay!
I'm a millionaire champagne socialist, own multiple apartments which I charge minimum rent to lesbian refugees and have a harem of Eastern European lovelies that hang on to every word of my very charming conversation.