Sir John Curtice:

Labour wanted to demonstrate unambiguously they have made progress

They can rightly claim to have reached a new zenith of popularity in the capital

The trouble is outside London Labour’s share of the vote was actually down slightly

comment by Oscar #TeamFury. Champion of NBA Predictions (U12980)
posted 1 hour, 24 minutes ago
Reinforces the notion that Starmer has absolutely zero chance of winning an election too. Needs to go
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It was mainly Labour seats up for grabs and they've added 34 as well as gaining 3 councils, some of which have been Tory for the best part of 30 years.

They could have done a little better but seems rather bizarre to say it proves Starmer isn't electable when they've made gains

comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Oscar #TeamFury. Champion of NBA Predictions (U12980)
posted 1 hour, 24 minutes ago
Reinforces the notion that Starmer has absolutely zero chance of winning an election too. Needs to go
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It was mainly Labour seats up for grabs and they've added 34 as well as gaining 3 councils, some of which have been Tory for the best part of 30 years.

They could have done a little better but seems rather bizarre to say it proves Starmer isn't electable when they've made gains
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They already controlled half the council seats up for election, so gains were always going to be modest.

It's weird that Labour seems to be the focus for many when the Tories have lost over 100 seats with half the votes still to be counted.

Seems like Brexit still casts a shadow, with Northern leave areas not really shifting.

Always seems to be way Tam.

I have no idea how anyone could spin losing 120 seats and 6 councils at the halfway stage as an ok result for the Tory's.

comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 5 minutes ago
Always seems to be way Tam.

I have no idea how anyone could spin losing 120 seats and 6 councils at the halfway stage as an ok result for the Tory's.
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After 12 years of government and the shambolic antics at Westminster Labour should be doing a lot better.
London a lost cause for the Tories anyway.


Still a bad night for the Tories either way

They were actually projected to lose seats in England though, with the gains coming in Scotland and Wales, so any gains in England is surely decent.

comment by Ignacio Varga (U11781)
posted 16 hours, 9 minutes ago
NEW: The #COVID19 pandemic killed 13.3 to 16.6 million people in 2020 and 2021, the WHO has estimated -- up to triple the number of deaths officially attributed to the disease

Second worst pandemic death toll after Spanish flu lads?
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comment by Oscar #TeamFury. Champion of NBA Predictions (U12980)
posted Everyday since the start of the pandemic

Nobody died, the WHO are lizard people, and masks have given everyone cancer.

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Interesting perspective.

The takes were always going to be "actually Labour winning lots of seats is a bad thing" and "well local elections don't really matter"

And here we are

Boris wants a leadership contest before more MET fines are issued and the Sue Gray report is published 👀

Probably gonna have a GE in autumn now

And if it’s true we are going into a recession I would love to know if our country is gonna be the only one to experience it. Would give the brexit argument great ammo.

Seat Count (10:20AM):

🌹 LAB: 1200 (+34)
🌳 CON: 540 (-122)
🔶 LDM: 259 (+59)
ℹ️ INDs: 39 (=)
🌍 GRN: 39 (+22)
🏘️ LOCs: 40 (+6)

Progressives on the rise Fack Conservatism

comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 42 minutes ago
The takes were always going to be "actually Labour winning lots of seats is a bad thing" and "well local elections don't really matter"

And here we are
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If John Curtice says that other than London Labour haven't had a great set of results then I think we should pretty much take it as read, don't you?

Southend-on-Sea Result #LE2022:

LAB: 8 (+2)
CON: 6 (-2)
LDM: 2 (+1)
IND: 2 (-1)

Council Now: CON 21, LAB 16, IND 8, LDM 6.
NOC - No Change.

Interesting change from a heavy Tory area.

David Simmonds, Tory MP for Ruislip:

‘Clearly the prime minister has difficult questions to answer

‘People were broadly positive about the Government’s policies but they’re not happy with what they’ve been hearing about partygate

‘He needs to confront up & answer question’

comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 13 minutes ago
Boris wants a leadership contest before more MET fines are issued and the Sue Gray report is published 👀
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For him personally it would make sense but party wise it won't look good

comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 42 minutes ago
The takes were always going to be "actually Labour winning lots of seats is a bad thing" and "well local elections don't really matter"

And here we are
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If John Curtice says that other than London Labour haven't had a great set of results then I think we should pretty much take it as read, don't you?
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You hold onto whatever you want Pawl

The results have been up most for Labour and then Lib Dems and Greens

Disaster for the Tories and the progressive alliance they fear gathers pace 👀

comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 42 minutes ago
The takes were always going to be "actually Labour winning lots of seats is a bad thing" and "well local elections don't really matter"

And here we are
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If John Curtice says that other than London Labour haven't had a great set of results then I think we should pretty much take it as read, don't you?
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If John Curtice says that these results represent a significant decline in Conservative support and that Tory MPs will be concerned about the vote falling most heavily on the South of England where the majority of them hold their seats; we should take that as read no?

comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 42 minutes ago
The takes were always going to be "actually Labour winning lots of seats is a bad thing" and "well local elections don't really matter"

And here we are
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If John Curtice says that other than London Labour haven't had a great set of results then I think we should pretty much take it as read, don't you?
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If John Curtice says that these results represent a significant decline in Conservative support and that Tory MPs will be concerned about the vote falling most heavily on the South of England where the majority of them hold their seats; we should take that as read no?
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Of course, quite frankly I can't believe a anybody went to the trouble to go out and vote Tory yesterday.

However after the colossal open goal Boris gave every other party for these local elections the others should be doing well.

Not sure when the Wakefield by election is but if the Tories lose then he's toast.

I wonder what the odds are for him mentioning the vaccination rollout when called to answer for Tory failings in the local elections?

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 minutes ago
I wonder what the odds are for him mentioning the vaccination rollout when called to answer for Tory failings in the local elections?
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'Getting the job done'.

We can have a game of BoJo Bingo later.

comment by Ignacio Varga (U11781)
posted 47 minutes ago
And if it’s true we are going into a recession I would love to know if our country is gonna be the only one to experience it. Would give the brexit argument great ammo.
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Russia (obviously), China, maybe the US, probably some European nations. There’ll be knock-on effects, country to country, region to region.

What happens in China is going to be key.

Thought this was good (every political debate ever)

https://twitter.com/larryandpaul/status/1522244451330142211?t=c0X5520gxIVXge9TvgkiKg&s=19