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comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 7 minutes ago
It's be interesting to know the potency differences too.
I dabbled a lot in my college days and I know that generally speaking UK Weed is now 2.5 times stronger... That's what an unregulated illegal industry does..
Id rather see it regulated, and taxed, both with a corporation rate tax and an *NHS levy". With the values based on THC content
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Is it really that much stronger? I smoked some a couple of months back for a while and it was good stuff but I didn’t notice a huge difference to what I used to smoke like you did in my uni days. I did grow up in Manchester though, so maybe we got the good stuff. I did remember London bog standard being disappointing when I moved down here.
2.5x though...damn
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Asking for a pure whitey.
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Indeed
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How do Google, Amazon, Starbucks get away with not paying their way?
The rich poor gap widens as does the worker boss pay gaps, so in this regard, je suis leftie.
If you can afford to pay more tax, you should.
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 2 minutes ago
Also I completely disagree that the wealthy pay their fair share of tax, with even a passably good accountant they will pay a much lower % than anyone on PAYE (outside of the tax free allowance, which I would see scrapped as part of a UBI)
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Depends on how you are defining wealthy. If you’re talking about the top 0.01% then sure but the top 1% very much comes into the bracket of wealthy and they certainly pay more than their fair share.
The top 1 percent paid a greater share of individual income taxes (37.3 percent) than the bottom 90 percent combined (30.5 percent). The top 1 percent of taxpayers paid a 26.9 percent individual income tax rate, which is more than seven times higher than taxpayers in the bottom 50 percent (3.7 percent).
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 50 seconds ago
How do Google, Amazon, Starbucks get away with not paying their way?
The rich poor gap widens as does the worker boss pay gaps, so in this regard, je suis leftie.
If you can afford to pay more tax, you should.
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I don’t like looking at this through the lens of the rich poor gap. What is much more important is the previous poor vs current poor.
People can afford to pay more tax and they do, we already have a tax system in place that does this as I’ve shown above. Top 1% pay more than the bottom 90%. If that’s not paying more then your fair share then I don’t know what is.
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Can anybody tell me why they would pay Starbucks prices for a cup of Joe?
Its not even that good.
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Igor but for. (U22200)
posted 2 minutes ago
Any vapers among you?
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No man, asthma stopped me smoking.
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Was just asking because a mate mentioned a oil, THC that was the equivalent of weed without having to mix tobacco with it.
Yeah I happily admit my post is theoretical and not a practical solution to pay back post-covid debt.
On the general point of why I'd favour taxing at the point of inheritance rather than income - the latter brings money (through productivity) into the system, the former keeps it from flowing freely through the system. It comes down to preference but I would rather the opportunity to live a comfortable affordable life - if I put the effort in - while working, and the same opportunity and starting point afforded to my offspring, than an expensive life where my focus is on slowly accumulating enough money so I can have enough of a buffer to enjoy it in retirement. I hate paying so much in tax and rent and having to scrimp for years in advance to afford a house, kids and childcare, despite earning a very comfortable salary. Taxing inheritance is the great leveller IMO. Income tax is not the way to go unless you want to make this already expensive country even more expensive.
Tbab, just be careful if you ever get edibles.
I really don't like the science boys fekin about with it.
Case in Nova Scotia last year some kid ate his dads bar if "chocolate" 12 squares each equivalent to a gram. Dad caught him after he ate half of the bar.
Should a been charged for neglect or worse.
Tbab, just be careful if you ever get edibles.
I really don't like the science boys fekin about with it.
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I tried one for the first time last year, it felt like a slightly mild acid trip. Definitely would not recommend if you're looking for something mellow
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comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 11 minutes ago
Can anybody tell me why they would pay Starbucks prices for a cup of Joe?
Its not even that good.
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I don't like coffee.
Disgusting
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I paid over ten pounds a pint for the first time last year. Brewdog sour guest beer
comment by Igor but for. (U22200)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Igor but for. (U22200)
posted 2 minutes ago
Any vapers among you?
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No man, asthma stopped me smoking.
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Was just asking because a mate mentioned a oil, THC that was the equivalent of weed without having to mix tobacco with it.
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Yea, I would try that, mate.
Cut out the baccy.
Q or others might have mentioned that here before.
Q
I started using Q as when I went for Que, it kept bringing up Sue, ffs lol
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posted 3 seconds ago
On weed, if it were legalised I'd probably go for ediblesavoid any more smoke damage to my lungs
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A nice hash brownie or a weed muffin. But these sweets are strong as... And as I posted if there are kids around they should be kept in you gun cabinet under lock and key.
Oh that might not be the best place. But locked away.
And I can disagree with your methodology because it is assuming that the top 1% all claim VAT back so that’s everyone earning £160k or more which just isn’t the case. Plus it’s also ignoring all of the work and jobs which in kind provide more revenue in terms of income tax.
If you have data on how many of those that earn £160k and claim VAT back and how much VAT they claim back versus the total received then feel free to share it.
You’re trying to argue that the wealthy don’t pay more tax than the less wealthy and you’ll have to do a lot more detail to prove that. I have already showed that this is the case and you want to add VAT into it yet ignore that the top 1% that don’t claim VAT back again pay a lot more VAT than those with less disposable income, let alone inheritance tax, CGT, stamp duty and so on.
If you have data that has added up all of the tax contributions of the top 1% and that figure isn’t higher than the average then again feel free to share it but I’d be surprised if you did have that data.
I don’t think anyone is overestimating the troubles of the debt at all, the fact that we’re talking WW2 levels over a virus that has killed 100,000 people says it all. Maybe we can just ask for another IMF loan like the 70s.
As I said earlier, last March with no vaccines in sight zero covid had a possible argument but given the strains etc who is to know that we could have managed it with or without vaccines?
I think you’re being a bit casual about what is WW2 levels, it’s ok we can just pay that off over decades. Well ok, but that will leave us with less money for all of our services as money doesn’t grow on trees.
You can gun for the likes of Amazon and apple but they won’t play ball, they don’t have to.
An increase in corporation tax will help, sure but it will still take us decades and during those times we will have less money for everything else. Either that or we start to print money for fun, ‘pay’ for everything and end up like Venezuela.
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 4 minutes ago
It's quite amusing keeping tabs on this Gina carano story.
So she's officially gone from lucasfilm and is no longer part of star wars, and she's probably gone from Deadpool too..
Now the right are up in arms over "cancel culture" and are cancelling their Disney subscriptions to punish the company.
Presumably aware of the irony?! Trying to cancel culture cancel culture... I don't think '21 is going to be much better than '20...
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The difficulty they face in the US is they have full freedom of speech apart from inciting violence but the also have much less working rights than we do but it’s no surprise that a country that allows people to carry out hate speech has examples such as this.
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comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 minute ago
And I can disagree with your methodology because it is assuming that the top 1% all claim VAT back so that’s everyone earning £160k or more which just isn’t the case. Plus it’s also ignoring all of the work and jobs which in kind provide more revenue in terms of income tax.
If you have data on how many of those that earn £160k and claim VAT back and how much VAT they claim back versus the total received then feel free to share it.
You’re trying to argue that the wealthy don’t pay more tax than the less wealthy and you’ll have to do a lot more detail to prove that. I have already showed that this is the case and you want to add VAT into it yet ignore that the top 1% that don’t claim VAT back again pay a lot more VAT than those with less disposable income, let alone inheritance tax, CGT, stamp duty and so on.
If you have data that has added up all of the tax contributions of the top 1% and that figure isn’t higher than the average then again feel free to share it but I’d be surprised if you did have that data.
I don’t think anyone is overestimating the troubles of the debt at all, the fact that we’re talking WW2 levels over a virus that has killed 100,000 people says it all. Maybe we can just ask for another IMF loan like the 70s.
As I said earlier, last March with no vaccines in sight zero covid had a possible argument but given the strains etc who is to know that we could have managed it with or without vaccines?
I think you’re being a bit casual about what is WW2 levels, it’s ok we can just pay that off over decades. Well ok, but that will leave us with less money for all of our services as money doesn’t grow on trees.
You can gun for the likes of Amazon and apple but they won’t play ball, they don’t have to.
An increase in corporation tax will help, sure but it will still take us decades and during those times we will have less money for everything else. Either that or we start to print money for fun, ‘pay’ for everything and end up like Venezuela.
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If you raise corporate tax rates now the U.K. might have a problem attracting investment due to the smaller market thanks to Brexit.
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posted on 11/2/21
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 7 minutes ago
It's be interesting to know the potency differences too.
I dabbled a lot in my college days and I know that generally speaking UK Weed is now 2.5 times stronger... That's what an unregulated illegal industry does..
Id rather see it regulated, and taxed, both with a corporation rate tax and an *NHS levy". With the values based on THC content
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is it really that much stronger? I smoked some a couple of months back for a while and it was good stuff but I didn’t notice a huge difference to what I used to smoke like you did in my uni days. I did grow up in Manchester though, so maybe we got the good stuff. I did remember London bog standard being disappointing when I moved down here.
2.5x though...damn
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Asking for a pure whitey.
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Indeed
posted on 11/2/21
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posted on 11/2/21
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 11/2/21
How do Google, Amazon, Starbucks get away with not paying their way?
The rich poor gap widens as does the worker boss pay gaps, so in this regard, je suis leftie.
If you can afford to pay more tax, you should.
posted on 11/2/21
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 2 minutes ago
Also I completely disagree that the wealthy pay their fair share of tax, with even a passably good accountant they will pay a much lower % than anyone on PAYE (outside of the tax free allowance, which I would see scrapped as part of a UBI)
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Depends on how you are defining wealthy. If you’re talking about the top 0.01% then sure but the top 1% very much comes into the bracket of wealthy and they certainly pay more than their fair share.
The top 1 percent paid a greater share of individual income taxes (37.3 percent) than the bottom 90 percent combined (30.5 percent). The top 1 percent of taxpayers paid a 26.9 percent individual income tax rate, which is more than seven times higher than taxpayers in the bottom 50 percent (3.7 percent).
posted on 11/2/21
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 50 seconds ago
How do Google, Amazon, Starbucks get away with not paying their way?
The rich poor gap widens as does the worker boss pay gaps, so in this regard, je suis leftie.
If you can afford to pay more tax, you should.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don’t like looking at this through the lens of the rich poor gap. What is much more important is the previous poor vs current poor.
People can afford to pay more tax and they do, we already have a tax system in place that does this as I’ve shown above. Top 1% pay more than the bottom 90%. If that’s not paying more then your fair share then I don’t know what is.
posted on 11/2/21
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posted on 11/2/21
Can anybody tell me why they would pay Starbucks prices for a cup of Joe?
Its not even that good.
posted on 11/2/21
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Igor but for. (U22200)
posted 2 minutes ago
Any vapers among you?
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No man, asthma stopped me smoking.
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Was just asking because a mate mentioned a oil, THC that was the equivalent of weed without having to mix tobacco with it.
posted on 11/2/21
Yeah I happily admit my post is theoretical and not a practical solution to pay back post-covid debt.
On the general point of why I'd favour taxing at the point of inheritance rather than income - the latter brings money (through productivity) into the system, the former keeps it from flowing freely through the system. It comes down to preference but I would rather the opportunity to live a comfortable affordable life - if I put the effort in - while working, and the same opportunity and starting point afforded to my offspring, than an expensive life where my focus is on slowly accumulating enough money so I can have enough of a buffer to enjoy it in retirement. I hate paying so much in tax and rent and having to scrimp for years in advance to afford a house, kids and childcare, despite earning a very comfortable salary. Taxing inheritance is the great leveller IMO. Income tax is not the way to go unless you want to make this already expensive country even more expensive.
posted on 11/2/21
Tbab, just be careful if you ever get edibles.
I really don't like the science boys fekin about with it.
Case in Nova Scotia last year some kid ate his dads bar if "chocolate" 12 squares each equivalent to a gram. Dad caught him after he ate half of the bar.
Should a been charged for neglect or worse.
posted on 11/2/21
Tbab, just be careful if you ever get edibles.
I really don't like the science boys fekin about with it.
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I tried one for the first time last year, it felt like a slightly mild acid trip. Definitely would not recommend if you're looking for something mellow
posted on 11/2/21
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posted on 11/2/21
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posted on 11/2/21
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 11 minutes ago
Can anybody tell me why they would pay Starbucks prices for a cup of Joe?
Its not even that good.
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I don't like coffee.
Disgusting
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I paid over ten pounds a pint for the first time last year. Brewdog sour guest beer
posted on 11/2/21
comment by Igor but for. (U22200)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Igor but for. (U22200)
posted 2 minutes ago
Any vapers among you?
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No man, asthma stopped me smoking.
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Was just asking because a mate mentioned a oil, THC that was the equivalent of weed without having to mix tobacco with it.
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Yea, I would try that, mate.
Cut out the baccy.
Q or others might have mentioned that here before.
posted on 11/2/21
Q
I started using Q as when I went for Que, it kept bringing up Sue, ffs lol
posted on 11/2/21
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posted on 11/2/21
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posted on 11/2/21
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posted on 11/2/21
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 3 seconds ago
On weed, if it were legalised I'd probably go for ediblesavoid any more smoke damage to my lungs
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A nice hash brownie or a weed muffin. But these sweets are strong as... And as I posted if there are kids around they should be kept in you gun cabinet under lock and key.
Oh that might not be the best place. But locked away.
posted on 11/2/21
And I can disagree with your methodology because it is assuming that the top 1% all claim VAT back so that’s everyone earning £160k or more which just isn’t the case. Plus it’s also ignoring all of the work and jobs which in kind provide more revenue in terms of income tax.
If you have data on how many of those that earn £160k and claim VAT back and how much VAT they claim back versus the total received then feel free to share it.
You’re trying to argue that the wealthy don’t pay more tax than the less wealthy and you’ll have to do a lot more detail to prove that. I have already showed that this is the case and you want to add VAT into it yet ignore that the top 1% that don’t claim VAT back again pay a lot more VAT than those with less disposable income, let alone inheritance tax, CGT, stamp duty and so on.
If you have data that has added up all of the tax contributions of the top 1% and that figure isn’t higher than the average then again feel free to share it but I’d be surprised if you did have that data.
I don’t think anyone is overestimating the troubles of the debt at all, the fact that we’re talking WW2 levels over a virus that has killed 100,000 people says it all. Maybe we can just ask for another IMF loan like the 70s.
As I said earlier, last March with no vaccines in sight zero covid had a possible argument but given the strains etc who is to know that we could have managed it with or without vaccines?
I think you’re being a bit casual about what is WW2 levels, it’s ok we can just pay that off over decades. Well ok, but that will leave us with less money for all of our services as money doesn’t grow on trees.
You can gun for the likes of Amazon and apple but they won’t play ball, they don’t have to.
An increase in corporation tax will help, sure but it will still take us decades and during those times we will have less money for everything else. Either that or we start to print money for fun, ‘pay’ for everything and end up like Venezuela.
posted on 11/2/21
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 4 minutes ago
It's quite amusing keeping tabs on this Gina carano story.
So she's officially gone from lucasfilm and is no longer part of star wars, and she's probably gone from Deadpool too..
Now the right are up in arms over "cancel culture" and are cancelling their Disney subscriptions to punish the company.
Presumably aware of the irony?! Trying to cancel culture cancel culture... I don't think '21 is going to be much better than '20...
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The difficulty they face in the US is they have full freedom of speech apart from inciting violence but the also have much less working rights than we do but it’s no surprise that a country that allows people to carry out hate speech has examples such as this.
posted on 11/2/21
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posted on 11/2/21
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 minute ago
And I can disagree with your methodology because it is assuming that the top 1% all claim VAT back so that’s everyone earning £160k or more which just isn’t the case. Plus it’s also ignoring all of the work and jobs which in kind provide more revenue in terms of income tax.
If you have data on how many of those that earn £160k and claim VAT back and how much VAT they claim back versus the total received then feel free to share it.
You’re trying to argue that the wealthy don’t pay more tax than the less wealthy and you’ll have to do a lot more detail to prove that. I have already showed that this is the case and you want to add VAT into it yet ignore that the top 1% that don’t claim VAT back again pay a lot more VAT than those with less disposable income, let alone inheritance tax, CGT, stamp duty and so on.
If you have data that has added up all of the tax contributions of the top 1% and that figure isn’t higher than the average then again feel free to share it but I’d be surprised if you did have that data.
I don’t think anyone is overestimating the troubles of the debt at all, the fact that we’re talking WW2 levels over a virus that has killed 100,000 people says it all. Maybe we can just ask for another IMF loan like the 70s.
As I said earlier, last March with no vaccines in sight zero covid had a possible argument but given the strains etc who is to know that we could have managed it with or without vaccines?
I think you’re being a bit casual about what is WW2 levels, it’s ok we can just pay that off over decades. Well ok, but that will leave us with less money for all of our services as money doesn’t grow on trees.
You can gun for the likes of Amazon and apple but they won’t play ball, they don’t have to.
An increase in corporation tax will help, sure but it will still take us decades and during those times we will have less money for everything else. Either that or we start to print money for fun, ‘pay’ for everything and end up like Venezuela.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If you raise corporate tax rates now the U.K. might have a problem attracting investment due to the smaller market thanks to Brexit.
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