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posted on 19/8/19

The Eriksen situation does not help.

At least Son is back could have used him against City.
Would have given them something to think about.

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted on 19/8/19

You can hardly read too much into it after 2 games, one of which being the toughest team we'll play all season. Does every top team play well in every game?

This seems all unnecessarily negative to me. Top 4 is still very much on. And if you think Man United and Arsenal have strengthened (too early to say by the way, Arsenal have played 2 teams you'd expect them to beat) then you can say Chelsea are weaker, and they finished above all of us last season.

The one concern is who we may yet lose during the transfer window.

posted on 19/8/19

Son was awful for ages - obviously with City game as the exception.

He had a really great streak at some point last season too.

When he goes off the boil, he really goes.

I hope it was tiredness and after a decent summer and pre season he can hit the heights we know he can - and hopefully for a longer period

posted on 19/8/19

Top 4 and a final would be a great year.

Forget about the league, it’s gone. We had two realistic chances at that and threw it. since then Liverpool and City have gone up a couple of gears and we have stood still (not being negative just the way I see it).

Realistically, Spurs, Utd, Chelsea and Arsenal are scrapping for 3rd and 4th

posted on 19/8/19

FA and their equivalents across Europe need to align to a single transfer window. Ideally they all do what we did here and end it before season starts

posted on 19/8/19

comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 13 minutes ago
You can hardly read too much into it after 2 games, one of which being the toughest team we'll play all season. Does every top team play well in every game?

This seems all unnecessarily negative to me. Top 4 is still very much on. And if you think Man United and Arsenal have strengthened (too early to say by the way, Arsenal have played 2 teams you'd expect them to beat) then you can say Chelsea are weaker, and they finished above all of us last season.

The one concern is who we may yet lose during the transfer window.
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If it was only two games I would agree mate, but the form and overall team displays are very much carrying on from last season, CL performances aside. I see nothing that makes me think Spurs have improved from last season.

At 2-2 on Saturday with 30 minutes left, surely a more vibrant team would have thought let`s just go for it and try for a win, but the team just sat back, and the inevitable goal conceeded was always going to come. Just lucky it was chalked off.

posted on 19/8/19

comment by Tarrico_sees_red (U5595)
posted 14 minutes ago
Son was awful for ages - obviously with City game as the exception.

He had a really great streak at some point last season too.

When he goes off the boil, he really goes.

I hope it was tiredness and after a decent summer and pre season he can hit the heights we know he can - and hopefully for a longer period
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Son blows hot and cold, hopefully the rest will have done him well. His last decent game was at City in the CL.

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted on 19/8/19

comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 13 minutes ago
You can hardly read too much into it after 2 games, one of which being the toughest team we'll play all season. Does every top team play well in every game?

This seems all unnecessarily negative to me. Top 4 is still very much on. And if you think Man United and Arsenal have strengthened (too early to say by the way, Arsenal have played 2 teams you'd expect them to beat) then you can say Chelsea are weaker, and they finished above all of us last season.

The one concern is who we may yet lose during the transfer window.
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If it was only two games I would agree mate, but the form and overall team displays are very much carrying on from last season, CL performances aside. I see nothing that makes me think Spurs have improved from last season.

At 2-2 on Saturday with 30 minutes left, surely a more vibrant team would have thought let`s just go for it and try for a win, but the team just sat back, and the inevitable goal conceeded was always going to come. Just lucky it was chalked off.
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We could have done better in the City game but City are good enough to make anyone look poor. They are probably the highest quality team in PL history if I'm honest.

The new additions should improve us but as I say the concern is if we lose anyone. If we don't then I expect us to finish on a higher points total than last season and a top 4 place again. If we do I'm still thinking top 4 but it could be tricky yes.

posted on 19/8/19

There was an article I read about players requiring rest and Son was highlighted as the player that might suffer burn out due to games played domestic and international.
I think the rest will do wonders for him.

posted on 19/8/19

comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 13 minutes ago
You can hardly read too much into it after 2 games, one of which being the toughest team we'll play all season. Does every top team play well in every game?

This seems all unnecessarily negative to me. Top 4 is still very much on. And if you think Man United and Arsenal have strengthened (too early to say by the way, Arsenal have played 2 teams you'd expect them to beat) then you can say Chelsea are weaker, and they finished above all of us last season.

The one concern is who we may yet lose during the transfer window.
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If it was only two games I would agree mate, but the form and overall team displays are very much carrying on from last season, CL performances aside. I see nothing that makes me think Spurs have improved from last season.

At 2-2 on Saturday with 30 minutes left, surely a more vibrant team would have thought let`s just go for it and try for a win, but the team just sat back, and the inevitable goal conceeded was always going to come. Just lucky it was chalked off.
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We could have done better in the City game but City are good enough to make anyone look poor. They are probably the highest quality team in PL history if I'm honest.

The new additions should improve us but as I say the concern is if we lose anyone. If we don't then I expect us to finish on a higher points total than last season and a top 4 place again. If we do I'm still thinking top 4 but it could be tricky yes.
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Yup City are miles in front of Spurs, so no shame really in not performing against them. The only problems I see though, is the performances last season against teams like West Ham, Brighton, Southampton, etc were well below what was expected, as was the performance against Villa this season. There seems to be a recurring theme in lots of Spurs matches now.

posted on 19/8/19

The Goonz will get their annual bending at Klanfield, probably by 3 or 4 goals, which will expose their obvious frailties.

posted on 19/8/19

Plenty of assumptions in your article, Sandy?
For example, we were supposed to go out and strengthen the squad early? You assume that getting Ndombele which was done very early isn't just that?

Verts falling out with the manager is an assumption too?
It maybe he hasn't played yet because he isn't at the level of fitness Poch requires from his players?

We are always sluggish in August and in fact even other clubs are. Liverpool are too for example. They were very fortunate of the win on Sat.
It's early season , and it takes bit of time to get back to some rhythm.
Poch said thevtesm is still unsettled. He was trying to point out that because the English transfer market closing before the rest of big European ones isn't helping the premier league sides.
Specially not helping Spurs because few of the players are at the crossroads of their career.
We've got a point at the weekend when the whole country didn't think we would, including yourself most likely, and we got the points and score 2 goals against City to get the points.
Even when we were hanging in there like you say.
I feel so far, do good.
When Son will be back, he'll be like a new addition to us.
👍

comment by SteveF (U22027)

posted on 19/8/19

Come on guys, less of the negativity. Have we forgotten that our club were nowhere only 6 years ago. Regularly finishing mid table, never being talked about in the same sentence as the then "top 4" and us getting excited if we got near a Europe place, much less actually qualifying. And always in Arsenal's shadow. Remember some of the bang average managers we had, much less the players.

6 year's on, yes we have still failed to get over the line on numerous occasions, but at least we are getting near to the line, something we never used to do.

We got to a CL final ffs, what would we have said 6 years ago if someone had said that would happen in any pre season predictions ?

This year we are widely predicted as the third best team in the PL. Again, 6 years ago we would have taken a top 6/7 finish as a good season.

Although Liverpool have built in a similar way to us, the simple truth is the City's of this world are able to out buy everyone else, and Chelsea will resume this when their ban is lifted.

So for me, I am just happy that we are now seen as one of the regular "challengers", qualifying for the CL on an "expected" basis, rather than pure hope.

For this season, the opening game is always hard to predict, especially against a newly promoted team and with new players bedding in to a system they are not familiar with. And the second game up being what we all knew was the hardest fixture of the season. But that is the same for all other clubs, who still have to go there.

We all know the season does not get serious until after the new year, so two games in we need to be more optimistic than negative. The Eriksen thing will sort itself out and until then, it will disrupt the team / squad. Le Celso will get a game at some point and will be good for us.

We can't compete with the top two this year, but are in as good a position as the other 3 rivals are this season. Two games played is a fraction of the season. I for one think we will continue to compete for 3rd, have good cup runs, and subject to the draw, at least get to the CL knock out stages. Think back 6 years....would you have taken that back then ?

posted on 19/8/19

There won't be too many teams walking away from City with a point this season and if we beat Newcastle (as we should) that will be a very tidy start.

Eriksen was diabolical on Saturday and I can't believe he's much of a positive force in the dressing room at the moment.

posted on 19/8/19

The way we've ground out the result in Saturday and the way we turned the game around on Saturday previous, Spurs are looking good to be up there, trust me.
With two new players still finding their feet and three players to come back, the team is looking pretty strong.

To get that point against City when they absolutely were ready to take a revenge on the CL game, it's a mighty impressive feat.
Even had we been with 6 points, some posters would never be happy.
😋

posted on 19/8/19

SteveF, what happened to that 4-1 to city prediction ?

😁

posted on 19/8/19

comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 9 minutes ago
There won't be too many teams walking away from City with a point this season and if we beat Newcastle (as we should) that will be a very tidy start.

Eriksen was diabolical on Saturday and I can't believe he's much of a positive force in the dressing room at the moment.
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The first part of your comment is bang on. It’s not unrealistic to say you could be the only team to take a point at city. They could easily win all remaining home games.
I’d wager most spurs fans expectations after the first two games was 3 points so you’re already a point up

posted on 19/8/19

At least we being clinical. Imagine having 30 plus shots on goal and not winning the game.

posted on 19/8/19

Spurs under Poch are historically slow starters, it usually takes the first month before we see quality play come together. Rightly or wrongly, that's just the way we've been!

As for Poch, he's just not going to be happy until he knows his final squad, clearly that's unsettling, he's on the record as not liking the difference in transfer window lengths.

The reasons I'm not worried about the season (yet) are that it's the second game of the season - doesn't matter about last season's form - and our new starters haven't had enough time to bed in properly.

I also think yesterday's game has to be viewed differently, clearly Poch has realised that his squad aren't up to speed yet and decided to set up shop for a defensive result (inspired by Mourinho no doubt). I personally see that as growth from the manager. Either way I'll take a point at City all day, I don't care how it came about.

If there was a concern then I'd say the team do seem less physically fit than in previous years, I wonder if Poch has adapted his pre-season after years of slowing at the end of the season

posted on 19/8/19

Poch said he does not like these international tournaments for pre season friendlies finds it disruptive. he prefers working with his players at home.

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted on 19/8/19

comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 13 minutes ago
You can hardly read too much into it after 2 games, one of which being the toughest team we'll play all season. Does every top team play well in every game?

This seems all unnecessarily negative to me. Top 4 is still very much on. And if you think Man United and Arsenal have strengthened (too early to say by the way, Arsenal have played 2 teams you'd expect them to beat) then you can say Chelsea are weaker, and they finished above all of us last season.

The one concern is who we may yet lose during the transfer window.
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If it was only two games I would agree mate, but the form and overall team displays are very much carrying on from last season, CL performances aside. I see nothing that makes me think Spurs have improved from last season.

At 2-2 on Saturday with 30 minutes left, surely a more vibrant team would have thought let`s just go for it and try for a win, but the team just sat back, and the inevitable goal conceeded was always going to come. Just lucky it was chalked off.
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We could have done better in the City game but City are good enough to make anyone look poor. They are probably the highest quality team in PL history if I'm honest.

The new additions should improve us but as I say the concern is if we lose anyone. If we don't then I expect us to finish on a higher points total than last season and a top 4 place again. If we do I'm still thinking top 4 but it could be tricky yes.
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Yup City are miles in front of Spurs, so no shame really in not performing against them. The only problems I see though, is the performances last season against teams like West Ham, Brighton, Southampton, etc were well below what was expected, as was the performance against Villa this season. There seems to be a recurring theme in lots of Spurs matches now.

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Need to give it more games with the transfer window over and players back from injury and then judge.

As you said, it should have been the season to strengthen the squad early and while we did that with Ndombele, we left other business late which can't help, and now we're clinging on to the hope that we keep Eriksen because we didn't get that extra strength in midfield that we were obviously going for when we pursued Dybala, and failed.

What I would say is, Kane should be fitter and more injury-free this season. He already bagged a brace and when was the last time he did that in the league? Moura continues to become increasingly more important to the team. Ndombele will be an upgrade in his midfield position. Lo Celso and Sessegnon should give us other outlets for goals (more so than Trippier and Llorente who we've since lost). So there's enough there to say the team should be improved on last season. Just need to not lose anyone and know we'll have this team at least for the next several months.

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted on 19/8/19

comment by Huddlestone's Afro - Rock you like a HurriKane! (U15375)
posted 4 minutes ago
Spurs under Poch are historically slow starters, it usually takes the first month before we see quality play come together. Rightly or wrongly, that's just the way we've been!
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You can see why as well with how late our signings have been under him. Most signings in August and just a few before that. Funnily enough our start last season was our best start under him and we didn't sign anyone.

posted on 19/8/19

comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Huddlestone's Afro - Rock you like a HurriKane! (U15375)
posted 4 minutes ago
Spurs under Poch are historically slow starters, it usually takes the first month before we see quality play come together. Rightly or wrongly, that's just the way we've been!
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You can see why as well with how late our signings have been under him. Most signings in August and just a few before that. Funnily enough our start last season was our best start under him and we didn't sign anyone.

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Go figure!

posted on 19/8/19

I thought it was a great point for spurs against arguably the best team in the league

posted on 19/8/19

comment by Desperate Dier-Bring me Ndombele (U6468)
posted 14 minutes ago
Poch said he does not like these international tournaments for pre season friendlies finds it disruptive. he prefers working with his players at home.
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Poch needs to stop with the excuses now, and get the team playing more high octane footie.

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