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No, I didnt make that out at all. The same applies for many people having a conversation with each other, for the question you didnt answer. What is making a person feel uncomfortable when people are talking to each other, involved in a conversion which isn't meant for that person? I mean, I assume they don't speak Polish to the native English speaker?
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We're talking about if the environment is continually like that over days or weeks or however long it was. Being around people who talk their own language and you're left outside of their bubble. You don't think that would make someone feel uncomfortable?
If you do not then fine, differences of opinion I guess.
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People will do that if they want, regardless of what language they speak and it will still make you uncomfortable. In my life I've experienced this without foreign language speakers being involved.
Not being funny but if these guys are making no effort to converse or get buddy buddy with you perhaps there could be other regular reasons you are "left out of the bubble".
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I don't know if you are talking to me like this is my own experience as it isn't.
Don't know why you're seeing this as a strange concept. Kind of obvious it's a matter of how easily you can manage to fit in with a crowd, and yes it could be through other circumstances and not a language barrier, but that is certainly one thing you wouldn't ordinarily expect for someone working in this country. Apparently now it can be.
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"ordinarily expect for someone working in this country."
That's where the niggle is IMO. An irrational expectation certain to lead to frustration. In this day and age, it should be expected because that's the way it is. You can't deny the reality of the world you live in, which has been heavily impacted by the UK to become what it is today.
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Wouldn't say it's irrational. I know the UK has changed a lot over the years and there has been an increase in immigrants but not to the extent that you might expect the language barrier to be a problem at your place of work if you are a native English speaker.
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FFS how many places are there where this is a problem?
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Boston-I know someone who worked in the B&M warehouse, he was a shift manager. He left because he felt uncomfortable when giving direction to his staff, they would often start conversing in Polish then start laughing. I don't care who you are, this would eventually make one paranoid.
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Boston?
That’s kipper central. One foreign accent is one too many for those people.
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Wages are one of the lowest in the country because of immigration, and the young are having to leave the area because rents are so high due to multiple occupations. I blame unscrupulous landlords for high rent.
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Immigrants are not responsible for crappy wages and high rents you silly racist.
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In Boston they are. Do some research before spouting off. I don't want to talk to you anymore, even if it was proven to be true you wouldn't admit it. You're an idiot.
You obviously don't work so a drop in wages wouldn't have an effect on you, and being as you don't work you no doubt have your rent paid for you. So it's alright for you to dismiss the impact a sudden influx of immigration has on an area when you live off handouts.
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comment by Lexington 125.2 (U8879)
posted 30 seconds ago
'Why would I be in massive denial?'
'It was even worse during the 70s/80s'
And that's exactly where we've heading back towards at the moment.
You know... where we were right at the point that we joined what would become the EU.
But yeah, let's take back control of our racism, eh?
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comment by Lexington 125.2 (U8879)
posted 30 seconds ago
'Why would I be in massive denial?'
'It was even worse during the 70s/80s'
And that's exactly where we've heading back towards at the moment.
You know... where we were right at the point that we joined what would become the EU.
But yeah, let's take back control of our racism, eh?
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How are we heading that way ? Very minority isolated incidents have occurred, but in general racism is nothing compared to what it was during that era. I think you are grappling onto something that doesn’t exist. I’m not denying there isn’t racist incidents in the country. I’m not denying certain individuals use Brexit as a platform to expose racism, but to sit there and say because of Brexit, we are heading back to the racism of the 70s/80s is about as simple minded as one can get. These far right racists have been around long before Brexit, nothing has changed.
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In the 70s and 80s .A whole stand could be racially abusing a player.Todays racism is wishy washy compared with that period
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No, I didnt make that out at all. The same applies for many people having a conversation with each other, for the question you didnt answer. What is making a person feel uncomfortable when people are talking to each other, involved in a conversion which isn't meant for that person? I mean, I assume they don't speak Polish to the native English speaker?
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We're talking about if the environment is continually like that over days or weeks or however long it was. Being around people who talk their own language and you're left outside of their bubble. You don't think that would make someone feel uncomfortable?
If you do not then fine, differences of opinion I guess.
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People will do that if they want, regardless of what language they speak and it will still make you uncomfortable. In my life I've experienced this without foreign language speakers being involved.
Not being funny but if these guys are making no effort to converse or get buddy buddy with you perhaps there could be other regular reasons you are "left out of the bubble".
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I don't know if you are talking to me like this is my own experience as it isn't.
Don't know why you're seeing this as a strange concept. Kind of obvious it's a matter of how easily you can manage to fit in with a crowd, and yes it could be through other circumstances and not a language barrier, but that is certainly one thing you wouldn't ordinarily expect for someone working in this country. Apparently now it can be.
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"ordinarily expect for someone working in this country."
That's where the niggle is IMO. An irrational expectation certain to lead to frustration. In this day and age, it should be expected because that's the way it is. You can't deny the reality of the world you live in, which has been heavily impacted by the UK to become what it is today.
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Wouldn't say it's irrational. I know the UK has changed a lot over the years and there has been an increase in immigrants but not to the extent that you might expect the language barrier to be a problem at your place of work if you are a native English speaker.
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FFS how many places are there where this is a problem?
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Boston-I know someone who worked in the B&M warehouse, he was a shift manager. He left because he felt uncomfortable when giving direction to his staff, they would often start conversing in Polish then start laughing. I don't care who you are, this would eventually make one paranoid.
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Boston?
That’s kipper central. One foreign accent is one too many for those people.
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Wages are one of the lowest in the country because of immigration, and the young are having to leave the area because rents are so high due to multiple occupations. I blame unscrupulous landlords for high rent.
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Immigrants are not responsible for crappy wages and high rents you silly racist.
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In Boston they are. Do some research before spouting off. I don't want to talk to you anymore, even if it was proven to be true you wouldn't admit it. You're an idiot.
You obviously don't work so a drop in wages wouldn't have an effect on you, and being as you don't work you no doubt have your rent paid for you. So it's alright for you to dismiss the impact a sudden influx of immigration has on an area when you live off handouts.
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Shut up you racist idiot, you know nothing about me.
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comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 4 hours, 40 minutes ago
comment by Lexington 125.2 (U8879)
posted 30 seconds ago
'Why would I be in massive denial?'
'It was even worse during the 70s/80s'
And that's exactly where we've heading back towards at the moment.
You know... where we were right at the point that we joined what would become the EU.
But yeah, let's take back control of our racism, eh?
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comment by Lexington 125.2 (U8879)
posted 30 seconds ago
'Why would I be in massive denial?'
'It was even worse during the 70s/80s'
And that's exactly where we've heading back towards at the moment.
You know... where we were right at the point that we joined what would become the EU.
But yeah, let's take back control of our racism, eh?
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How are we heading that way ? Very minority isolated incidents have occurred, but in general racism is nothing compared to what it was during that era. I think you are grappling onto something that doesn’t exist. I’m not denying there isn’t racist incidents in the country. I’m not denying certain individuals use Brexit as a platform to expose racism, but to sit there and say because of Brexit, we are heading back to the racism of the 70s/80s is about as simple minded as one can get. These far right racists have been around long before Brexit, nothing has changed.
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In the 70s and 80s .A whole stand could be racially abusing a player.Todays racism is wishy washy compared with that period
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Not if you’re on the receiving end of it.
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No, I didnt make that out at all. The same applies for many people having a conversation with each other, for the question you didnt answer. What is making a person feel uncomfortable when people are talking to each other, involved in a conversion which isn't meant for that person? I mean, I assume they don't speak Polish to the native English speaker?
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We're talking about if the environment is continually like that over days or weeks or however long it was. Being around people who talk their own language and you're left outside of their bubble. You don't think that would make someone feel uncomfortable?
If you do not then fine, differences of opinion I guess.
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People will do that if they want, regardless of what language they speak and it will still make you uncomfortable. In my life I've experienced this without foreign language speakers being involved.
Not being funny but if these guys are making no effort to converse or get buddy buddy with you perhaps there could be other regular reasons you are "left out of the bubble".
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I don't know if you are talking to me like this is my own experience as it isn't.
Don't know why you're seeing this as a strange concept. Kind of obvious it's a matter of how easily you can manage to fit in with a crowd, and yes it could be through other circumstances and not a language barrier, but that is certainly one thing you wouldn't ordinarily expect for someone working in this country. Apparently now it can be.
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"ordinarily expect for someone working in this country."
That's where the niggle is IMO. An irrational expectation certain to lead to frustration. In this day and age, it should be expected because that's the way it is. You can't deny the reality of the world you live in, which has been heavily impacted by the UK to become what it is today.
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Wouldn't say it's irrational. I know the UK has changed a lot over the years and there has been an increase in immigrants but not to the extent that you might expect the language barrier to be a problem at your place of work if you are a native English speaker.
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FFS how many places are there where this is a problem?
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Boston-I know someone who worked in the B&M warehouse, he was a shift manager. He left because he felt uncomfortable when giving direction to his staff, they would often start conversing in Polish then start laughing. I don't care who you are, this would eventually make one paranoid.
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If my employees were conversing in English and then laughing after I'd given them instruction I'd get rid of them. I'm not sure what language has to do with anything here.
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No, I didnt make that out at all. The same applies for many people having a conversation with each other, for the question you didnt answer. What is making a person feel uncomfortable when people are talking to each other, involved in a conversion which isn't meant for that person? I mean, I assume they don't speak Polish to the native English speaker?
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We're talking about if the environment is continually like that over days or weeks or however long it was. Being around people who talk their own language and you're left outside of their bubble. You don't think that would make someone feel uncomfortable?
If you do not then fine, differences of opinion I guess.
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People will do that if they want, regardless of what language they speak and it will still make you uncomfortable. In my life I've experienced this without foreign language speakers being involved.
Not being funny but if these guys are making no effort to converse or get buddy buddy with you perhaps there could be other regular reasons you are "left out of the bubble".
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I don't know if you are talking to me like this is my own experience as it isn't.
Don't know why you're seeing this as a strange concept. Kind of obvious it's a matter of how easily you can manage to fit in with a crowd, and yes it could be through other circumstances and not a language barrier, but that is certainly one thing you wouldn't ordinarily expect for someone working in this country. Apparently now it can be.
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"ordinarily expect for someone working in this country."
That's where the niggle is IMO. An irrational expectation certain to lead to frustration. In this day and age, it should be expected because that's the way it is. You can't deny the reality of the world you live in, which has been heavily impacted by the UK to become what it is today.
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Wouldn't say it's irrational. I know the UK has changed a lot over the years and there has been an increase in immigrants but not to the extent that you might expect the language barrier to be a problem at your place of work if you are a native English speaker.
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FFS how many places are there where this is a problem?
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Boston-I know someone who worked in the B&M warehouse, he was a shift manager. He left because he felt uncomfortable when giving direction to his staff, they would often start conversing in Polish then start laughing. I don't care who you are, this would eventually make one paranoid.
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If my employees were conversing in English and then laughing after I'd given them instruction I'd get rid of them. I'm not sure what language has to do with anything here.
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Zactly.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-51348619?SThisFB
Woman and child jump out of a window to escape a racist attack.
Brexit Britain.
comment by Automatic For The EU 🇪🇺❤️ (U21889)
posted 11 minutes ago
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-51348619?SThisFB
Woman and child jump out of a window to escape a racist attack.
Brexit Britain.
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Northern Ireland voted to remain you fecking cretin
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No, I didnt make that out at all. The same applies for many people having a conversation with each other, for the question you didnt answer. What is making a person feel uncomfortable when people are talking to each other, involved in a conversion which isn't meant for that person? I mean, I assume they don't speak Polish to the native English speaker?
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We're talking about if the environment is continually like that over days or weeks or however long it was. Being around people who talk their own language and you're left outside of their bubble. You don't think that would make someone feel uncomfortable?
If you do not then fine, differences of opinion I guess.
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People will do that if they want, regardless of what language they speak and it will still make you uncomfortable. In my life I've experienced this without foreign language speakers being involved.
Not being funny but if these guys are making no effort to converse or get buddy buddy with you perhaps there could be other regular reasons you are "left out of the bubble".
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I don't know if you are talking to me like this is my own experience as it isn't.
Don't know why you're seeing this as a strange concept. Kind of obvious it's a matter of how easily you can manage to fit in with a crowd, and yes it could be through other circumstances and not a language barrier, but that is certainly one thing you wouldn't ordinarily expect for someone working in this country. Apparently now it can be.
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"ordinarily expect for someone working in this country."
That's where the niggle is IMO. An irrational expectation certain to lead to frustration. In this day and age, it should be expected because that's the way it is. You can't deny the reality of the world you live in, which has been heavily impacted by the UK to become what it is today.
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Wouldn't say it's irrational. I know the UK has changed a lot over the years and there has been an increase in immigrants but not to the extent that you might expect the language barrier to be a problem at your place of work if you are a native English speaker.
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FFS how many places are there where this is a problem?
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Boston-I know someone who worked in the B&M warehouse, he was a shift manager. He left because he felt uncomfortable when giving direction to his staff, they would often start conversing in Polish then start laughing. I don't care who you are, this would eventually make one paranoid.
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If my employees were conversing in English and then laughing after I'd given them instruction I'd get rid of them. I'm not sure what language has to do with anything here.
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Are you for real, you can’t sack someone for laughing when you haven’t a clue what they’ve said, xenophobia would most definitely be brought up, it’s different if they were speaking English.
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posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The EU 🇪🇺❤️ (U21889)
posted 11 minutes ago
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-51348619?SThisFB
Woman and child jump out of a window to escape a racist attack.
Brexit Britain.
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Northern Ireland voted to remain you fecking cretin
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What, so the country as a whole gets one vote?
Anyway, who’s happy that the terrorist scuuuum got shot and killed today ? British police protecting the public brilliantly, could of been much worse. Far to close to home, only 20 mins up the road from me.
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comment by Automatic For The EU 🇪🇺❤️ (U21889)
posted 11 minutes ago
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-51348619?SThisFB
Woman and child jump out of a window to escape a racist attack.
Brexit Britain.
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Northern Ireland voted to remain you fecking cretin
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So?
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No, I didnt make that out at all. The same applies for many people having a conversation with each other, for the question you didnt answer. What is making a person feel uncomfortable when people are talking to each other, involved in a conversion which isn't meant for that person? I mean, I assume they don't speak Polish to the native English speaker?
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We're talking about if the environment is continually like that over days or weeks or however long it was. Being around people who talk their own language and you're left outside of their bubble. You don't think that would make someone feel uncomfortable?
If you do not then fine, differences of opinion I guess.
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People will do that if they want, regardless of what language they speak and it will still make you uncomfortable. In my life I've experienced this without foreign language speakers being involved.
Not being funny but if these guys are making no effort to converse or get buddy buddy with you perhaps there could be other regular reasons you are "left out of the bubble".
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I don't know if you are talking to me like this is my own experience as it isn't.
Don't know why you're seeing this as a strange concept. Kind of obvious it's a matter of how easily you can manage to fit in with a crowd, and yes it could be through other circumstances and not a language barrier, but that is certainly one thing you wouldn't ordinarily expect for someone working in this country. Apparently now it can be.
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"ordinarily expect for someone working in this country."
That's where the niggle is IMO. An irrational expectation certain to lead to frustration. In this day and age, it should be expected because that's the way it is. You can't deny the reality of the world you live in, which has been heavily impacted by the UK to become what it is today.
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Wouldn't say it's irrational. I know the UK has changed a lot over the years and there has been an increase in immigrants but not to the extent that you might expect the language barrier to be a problem at your place of work if you are a native English speaker.
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FFS how many places are there where this is a problem?
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Boston-I know someone who worked in the B&M warehouse, he was a shift manager. He left because he felt uncomfortable when giving direction to his staff, they would often start conversing in Polish then start laughing. I don't care who you are, this would eventually make one paranoid.
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If my employees were conversing in English and then laughing after I'd given them instruction I'd get rid of them. I'm not sure what language has to do with anything here.
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Are you for real, you can’t sack someone for laughing when you haven’t a clue what they’ve said, xenophobia would most definitely be brought up, it’s different if they were speaking English.
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No. Talking, disrupting the meeting and being a bother when the boss is talking is a sackabke offence. You're not sacking them for what they said, you're sackingbyhrn for their behaviour. This is why language has nothing to do with it
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posted 1 minute ago
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comment by Automatic For The EU 🇪🇺❤️ (U21889)
posted 11 minutes ago
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-51348619?SThisFB
Woman and child jump out of a window to escape a racist attack.
Brexit Britain.
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Northern Ireland voted to remain you fecking cretin
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What, so the country as a whole gets one vote?
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Blaming Brexit for the actions of this freak is ridiculous, that’s lime blaming all Muslims for the actions of the odd terrorist. You’re a bit slow on the uptake aren’t you soft lad?
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posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
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posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The EU 🇪🇺❤️ (U21889)
posted 11 minutes ago
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-51348619?SThisFB
Woman and child jump out of a window to escape a racist attack.
Brexit Britain.
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Northern Ireland voted to remain you fecking cretin
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What, so the country as a whole gets one vote?
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Blaming Brexit for the actions of this freak is ridiculous, that’s lime blaming all Muslims for the actions of the odd terrorist. You’re a bit slow on the uptake aren’t you soft lad?
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No, the point is that Brexit has arguably made people with racist views feel more comfortable with airing them, as if they’re more acceptable.
That could easily be as true in Northern Ireland as it could in England.
Let me know when you catch up.
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No, I didnt make that out at all. The same applies for many people having a conversation with each other, for the question you didnt answer. What is making a person feel uncomfortable when people are talking to each other, involved in a conversion which isn't meant for that person? I mean, I assume they don't speak Polish to the native English speaker?
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We're talking about if the environment is continually like that over days or weeks or however long it was. Being around people who talk their own language and you're left outside of their bubble. You don't think that would make someone feel uncomfortable?
If you do not then fine, differences of opinion I guess.
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People will do that if they want, regardless of what language they speak and it will still make you uncomfortable. In my life I've experienced this without foreign language speakers being involved.
Not being funny but if these guys are making no effort to converse or get buddy buddy with you perhaps there could be other regular reasons you are "left out of the bubble".
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don't know if you are talking to me like this is my own experience as it isn't.
Don't know why you're seeing this as a strange concept. Kind of obvious it's a matter of how easily you can manage to fit in with a crowd, and yes it could be through other circumstances and not a language barrier, but that is certainly one thing you wouldn't ordinarily expect for someone working in this country. Apparently now it can be.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
"ordinarily expect for someone working in this country."
That's where the niggle is IMO. An irrational expectation certain to lead to frustration. In this day and age, it should be expected because that's the way it is. You can't deny the reality of the world you live in, which has been heavily impacted by the UK to become what it is today.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wouldn't say it's irrational. I know the UK has changed a lot over the years and there has been an increase in immigrants but not to the extent that you might expect the language barrier to be a problem at your place of work if you are a native English speaker.
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FFS how many places are there where this is a problem?
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Boston-I know someone who worked in the B&M warehouse, he was a shift manager. He left because he felt uncomfortable when giving direction to his staff, they would often start conversing in Polish then start laughing. I don't care who you are, this would eventually make one paranoid.
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If my employees were conversing in English and then laughing after I'd given them instruction I'd get rid of them. I'm not sure what language has to do with anything here.
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Are you for real, you can’t sack someone for laughing when you haven’t a clue what they’ve said, xenophobia would most definitely be brought up, it’s different if they were speaking English.
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No. Talking, disrupting the meeting and being a bother when the boss is talking is a sackabke offence. You're not sacking them for what they said, you're sackingbyhrn for their behaviour. This is why language has nothing to do with it
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No, it isn't, and when you're dealing with a minority, sacking them for what looks like a minor offence, is easier said than done.
No, the point is Brexit has emboldened racists (even in areas that voted to remain).
Figures from the home office show a ridiculous spike in hate crimes and racism incidents starting from 2016. Its level in the years before but there is officially a joke of a significant surge since Brexit.
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No, I didnt make that out at all. The same applies for many people having a conversation with each other, for the question you didnt answer. What is making a person feel uncomfortable when people are talking to each other, involved in a conversion which isn't meant for that person? I mean, I assume they don't speak Polish to the native English speaker?
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We're talking about if the environment is continually like that over days or weeks or however long it was. Being around people who talk their own language and you're left outside of their bubble. You don't think that would make someone feel uncomfortable?
If you do not then fine, differences of opinion I guess.
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People will do that if they want, regardless of what language they speak and it will still make you uncomfortable. In my life I've experienced this without foreign language speakers being involved.
Not being funny but if these guys are making no effort to converse or get buddy buddy with you perhaps there could be other regular reasons you are "left out of the bubble".
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I don't know if you are talking to me like this is my own experience as it isn't.
Don't know why you're seeing this as a strange concept. Kind of obvious it's a matter of how easily you can manage to fit in with a crowd, and yes it could be through other circumstances and not a language barrier, but that is certainly one thing you wouldn't ordinarily expect for someone working in this country. Apparently now it can be.
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"ordinarily expect for someone working in this country."
That's where the niggle is IMO. An irrational expectation certain to lead to frustration. In this day and age, it should be expected because that's the way it is. You can't deny the reality of the world you live in, which has been heavily impacted by the UK to become what it is today.
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Wouldn't say it's irrational. I know the UK has changed a lot over the years and there has been an increase in immigrants but not to the extent that you might expect the language barrier to be a problem at your place of work if you are a native English speaker.
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FFS how many places are there where this is a problem?
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Boston-I know someone who worked in the B&M warehouse, he was a shift manager. He left because he felt uncomfortable when giving direction to his staff, they would often start conversing in Polish then start laughing. I don't care who you are, this would eventually make one paranoid.
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If my employees were conversing in English and then laughing after I'd given them instruction I'd get rid of them. I'm not sure what language has to do with anything here.
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Are you for real, you can’t sack someone for laughing when you haven’t a clue what they’ve said, xenophobia would most definitely be brought up, it’s different if they were speaking English.
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No. Talking, disrupting the meeting and being a bother when the boss is talking is a sackabke offence. You're not sacking them for what they said, you're sackingbyhrn for their behaviour. This is why language has nothing to do with it
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No, it isn't, and when you're dealing with a minority, sacking them for what looks like a minor offence, is easier said than done.
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Are you speaking from experience? Its easily done. You should be believe the one or two horror stories to be the norm.
So you're saying they can laugh and chat in the bosses face and the boss wont do sheet because they're foreign?
Stop deluding yourself saaan.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-51348619?SThisFB
Woman and child jump out of a window to escape a racist attack.
Brexit Britain.
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Northern Ireland voted to remain you fecking cretin
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So?
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There are far more racist countries in the EU than Britain, being in the EU doesn't automatically make that country the utopia for immigrants.
There are far more racist countries in the EU than Britain, being in the EU doesn't automatically make that country the utopia for immigrants.
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Nobody said it did.
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No, I didnt make that out at all. The same applies for many people having a conversation with each other, for the question you didnt answer. What is making a person feel uncomfortable when people are talking to each other, involved in a conversion which isn't meant for that person? I mean, I assume they don't speak Polish to the native English speaker?
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We're talking about if the environment is continually like that over days or weeks or however long it was. Being around people who talk their own language and you're left outside of their bubble. You don't think that would make someone feel uncomfortable?
If you do not then fine, differences of opinion I guess.
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People will do that if they want, regardless of what language they speak and it will still make you uncomfortable. In my life I've experienced this without foreign language speakers being involved.
Not being funny but if these guys are making no effort to converse or get buddy buddy with you perhaps there could be other regular reasons you are "left out of the bubble".
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I don't know if you are talking to me like this is my own experience as it isn't.
Don't know why you're seeing this as a strange concept. Kind of obvious it's a matter of how easily you can manage to fit in with a crowd, and yes it could be through other circumstances and not a language barrier, but that is certainly one thing you wouldn't ordinarily expect for someone working in this country. Apparently now it can be.
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"ordinarily expect for someone working in this country."
That's where the niggle is IMO. An irrational expectation certain to lead to frustration. In this day and age, it should be expected because that's the way it is. You can't deny the reality of the world you live in, which has been heavily impacted by the UK to become what it is today.
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Wouldn't say it's irrational. I know the UK has changed a lot over the years and there has been an increase in immigrants but not to the extent that you might expect the language barrier to be a problem at your place of work if you are a native English speaker.
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FFS how many places are there where this is a problem?
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Boston-I know someone who worked in the B&M warehouse, he was a shift manager. He left because he felt uncomfortable when giving direction to his staff, they would often start conversing in Polish then start laughing. I don't care who you are, this would eventually make one paranoid.
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If my employees were conversing in English and then laughing after I'd given them instruction I'd get rid of them. I'm not sure what language has to do with anything here.
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Are you for real, you can’t sack someone for laughing when you haven’t a clue what they’ve said, xenophobia would most definitely be brought up, it’s different if they were speaking English.
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Of course you can. You've given instruction and instead of following it they've began talking and laughing. I've sacked people for less. Still not sure what language has to do with this.
Really it sounds like a scenario somebody has made up as it's their best attempt at finding something which may not appear xenophobic but still allow them to be against people speaking to each other, in their own language.
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No, I didnt make that out at all. The same applies for many people having a conversation with each other, for the question you didnt answer. What is making a person feel uncomfortable when people are talking to each other, involved in a conversion which isn't meant for that person? I mean, I assume they don't speak Polish to the native English speaker?
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We're talking about if the environment is continually like that over days or weeks or however long it was. Being around people who talk their own language and you're left outside of their bubble. You don't think that would make someone feel uncomfortable?
If you do not then fine, differences of opinion I guess.
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People will do that if they want, regardless of what language they speak and it will still make you uncomfortable. In my life I've experienced this without foreign language speakers being involved.
Not being funny but if these guys are making no effort to converse or get buddy buddy with you perhaps there could be other regular reasons you are "left out of the bubble".
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I don't know if you are talking to me like this is my own experience as it isn't.
Don't know why you're seeing this as a strange concept. Kind of obvious it's a matter of how easily you can manage to fit in with a crowd, and yes it could be through other circumstances and not a language barrier, but that is certainly one thing you wouldn't ordinarily expect for someone working in this country. Apparently now it can be.
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"ordinarily expect for someone working in this country."
That's where the niggle is IMO. An irrational expectation certain to lead to frustration. In this day and age, it should be expected because that's the way it is. You can't deny the reality of the world you live in, which has been heavily impacted by the UK to become what it is today.
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Wouldn't say it's irrational. I know the UK has changed a lot over the years and there has been an increase in immigrants but not to the extent that you might expect the language barrier to be a problem at your place of work if you are a native English speaker.
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FFS how many places are there where this is a problem?
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Boston-I know someone who worked in the B&M warehouse, he was a shift manager. He left because he felt uncomfortable when giving direction to his staff, they would often start conversing in Polish then start laughing. I don't care who you are, this would eventually make one paranoid.
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If my employees were conversing in English and then laughing after I'd given them instruction I'd get rid of them. I'm not sure what language has to do with anything here.
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Are you for real, you can’t sack someone for laughing when you haven’t a clue what they’ve said, xenophobia would most definitely be brought up, it’s different if they were speaking English.
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No. Talking, disrupting the meeting and being a bother when the boss is talking is a sackabke offence. You're not sacking them for what they said, you're sackingbyhrn for their behaviour. This is why language has nothing to do with it
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No, it isn't, and when you're dealing with a minority, sacking them for what looks like a minor offence, is easier said than done.
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Are you speaking from experience? Its easily done. You should be believe the one or two horror stories to be the norm.
So you're saying they can laugh and chat in the bosses face and the boss wont do sheet because they're foreign?
Stop deluding yourself saaan.
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My Missus is a band 7 for the Environmental Health and I'm telling you, you can't sack someone for laughing, she's disciplined loads of people for far worse offences, that still haven't warranted dismissal.
TOOR, I don’t agree with this guy on the rubbish he’s spouting but... you’ve sacked people for less?
I call bullsheite on that one!
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No, I didnt make that out at all. The same applies for many people having a conversation with each other, for the question you didnt answer. What is making a person feel uncomfortable when people are talking to each other, involved in a conversion which isn't meant for that person? I mean, I assume they don't speak Polish to the native English speaker?
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We're talking about if the environment is continually like that over days or weeks or however long it was. Being around people who talk their own language and you're left outside of their bubble. You don't think that would make someone feel uncomfortable?
If you do not then fine, differences of opinion I guess.
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People will do that if they want, regardless of what language they speak and it will still make you uncomfortable. In my life I've experienced this without foreign language speakers being involved.
Not being funny but if these guys are making no effort to converse or get buddy buddy with you perhaps there could be other regular reasons you are "left out of the bubble".
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I don't know if you are talking to me like this is my own experience as it isn't.
Don't know why you're seeing this as a strange concept. Kind of obvious it's a matter of how easily you can manage to fit in with a crowd, and yes it could be through other circumstances and not a language barrier, but that is certainly one thing you wouldn't ordinarily expect for someone working in this country. Apparently now it can be.
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"ordinarily expect for someone working in this country."
That's where the niggle is IMO. An irrational expectation certain to lead to frustration. In this day and age, it should be expected because that's the way it is. You can't deny the reality of the world you live in, which has been heavily impacted by the UK to become what it is today.
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Wouldn't say it's irrational. I know the UK has changed a lot over the years and there has been an increase in immigrants but not to the extent that you might expect the language barrier to be a problem at your place of work if you are a native English speaker.
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FFS how many places are there where this is a problem?
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Boston-I know someone who worked in the B&M warehouse, he was a shift manager. He left because he felt uncomfortable when giving direction to his staff, they would often start conversing in Polish then start laughing. I don't care who you are, this would eventually make one paranoid.
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If my employees were conversing in English and then laughing after I'd given them instruction I'd get rid of them. I'm not sure what language has to do with anything here.
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Are you for real, you can’t sack someone for laughing when you haven’t a clue what they’ve said, xenophobia would most definitely be brought up, it’s different if they were speaking English.
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Of course you can. You've given instruction and instead of following it they've began talking and laughing. I've sacked people for less. Still not sure what language has to do with this.
Really it sounds like a scenario somebody has made up as it's their best attempt at finding something which may not appear xenophobic but still allow them to be against people speaking to each other, in their own language.
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You must be a window cleaner because there's no way you could sack someone for merely laughing, especially if they're foreign or a minority. Any government department or large organisation are terrified of being branded, racist.
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TOOR, I don’t agree with this guy on the rubbish he’s spouting but... you’ve sacked people for less?
I call bullsheite on that one!
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I once sacked a guy for repeatedly saying he used to manage somewhere, every time I gave him something to do, as if to say what I was asking him was beneath him. I basically sacked him for being an arrogant tw@.
I said that's less than somebody laughing when you ask them to do something.
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No, I didnt make that out at all. The same applies for many people having a conversation with each other, for the question you didnt answer. What is making a person feel uncomfortable when people are talking to each other, involved in a conversion which isn't meant for that person? I mean, I assume they don't speak Polish to the native English speaker?
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We're talking about if the environment is continually like that over days or weeks or however long it was. Being around people who talk their own language and you're left outside of their bubble. You don't think that would make someone feel uncomfortable?
If you do not then fine, differences of opinion I guess.
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People will do that if they want, regardless of what language they speak and it will still make you uncomfortable. In my life I've experienced this without foreign language speakers being involved.
Not being funny but if these guys are making no effort to converse or get buddy buddy with you perhaps there could be other regular reasons you are "left out of the bubble".
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I don't know if you are talking to me like this is my own experience as it isn't.
Don't know why you're seeing this as a strange concept. Kind of obvious it's a matter of how easily you can manage to fit in with a crowd, and yes it could be through other circumstances and not a language barrier, but that is certainly one thing you wouldn't ordinarily expect for someone working in this country. Apparently now it can be.
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"ordinarily expect for someone working in this country."
That's where the niggle is IMO. An irrational expectation certain to lead to frustration. In this day and age, it should be expected because that's the way it is. You can't deny the reality of the world you live in, which has been heavily impacted by the UK to become what it is today.
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Wouldn't say it's irrational. I know the UK has changed a lot over the years and there has been an increase in immigrants but not to the extent that you might expect the language barrier to be a problem at your place of work if you are a native English speaker.
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FFS how many places are there where this is a problem?
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Boston-I know someone who worked in the B&M warehouse, he was a shift manager. He left because he felt uncomfortable when giving direction to his staff, they would often start conversing in Polish then start laughing. I don't care who you are, this would eventually make one paranoid.
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Boston?
That’s kipper central. One foreign accent is one too many for those people.
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Immigrants are not responsible for crappy wages and high rents you silly racist.
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In Boston they are. Do some research before spouting off. I don't want to talk to you anymore, even if it was proven to be true you wouldn't admit it. You're an idiot.
You obviously don't work so a drop in wages wouldn't have an effect on you, and being as you don't work you no doubt have your rent paid for you. So it's alright for you to dismiss the impact a sudden influx of immigration has on an area when you live off handouts.
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'Why would I be in massive denial?'
'It was even worse during the 70s/80s'
And that's exactly where we've heading back towards at the moment.
You know... where we were right at the point that we joined what would become the EU.
But yeah, let's take back control of our racism, eh?
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'Why would I be in massive denial?'
'It was even worse during the 70s/80s'
And that's exactly where we've heading back towards at the moment.
You know... where we were right at the point that we joined what would become the EU.
But yeah, let's take back control of our racism, eh?
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How are we heading that way ? Very minority isolated incidents have occurred, but in general racism is nothing compared to what it was during that era. I think you are grappling onto something that doesn’t exist. I’m not denying there isn’t racist incidents in the country. I’m not denying certain individuals use Brexit as a platform to expose racism, but to sit there and say because of Brexit, we are heading back to the racism of the 70s/80s is about as simple minded as one can get. These far right racists have been around long before Brexit, nothing has changed.
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In the 70s and 80s .A whole stand could be racially abusing a player.Todays racism is wishy washy compared with that period
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No, I didnt make that out at all. The same applies for many people having a conversation with each other, for the question you didnt answer. What is making a person feel uncomfortable when people are talking to each other, involved in a conversion which isn't meant for that person? I mean, I assume they don't speak Polish to the native English speaker?
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We're talking about if the environment is continually like that over days or weeks or however long it was. Being around people who talk their own language and you're left outside of their bubble. You don't think that would make someone feel uncomfortable?
If you do not then fine, differences of opinion I guess.
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People will do that if they want, regardless of what language they speak and it will still make you uncomfortable. In my life I've experienced this without foreign language speakers being involved.
Not being funny but if these guys are making no effort to converse or get buddy buddy with you perhaps there could be other regular reasons you are "left out of the bubble".
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I don't know if you are talking to me like this is my own experience as it isn't.
Don't know why you're seeing this as a strange concept. Kind of obvious it's a matter of how easily you can manage to fit in with a crowd, and yes it could be through other circumstances and not a language barrier, but that is certainly one thing you wouldn't ordinarily expect for someone working in this country. Apparently now it can be.
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"ordinarily expect for someone working in this country."
That's where the niggle is IMO. An irrational expectation certain to lead to frustration. In this day and age, it should be expected because that's the way it is. You can't deny the reality of the world you live in, which has been heavily impacted by the UK to become what it is today.
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Wouldn't say it's irrational. I know the UK has changed a lot over the years and there has been an increase in immigrants but not to the extent that you might expect the language barrier to be a problem at your place of work if you are a native English speaker.
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FFS how many places are there where this is a problem?
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Boston-I know someone who worked in the B&M warehouse, he was a shift manager. He left because he felt uncomfortable when giving direction to his staff, they would often start conversing in Polish then start laughing. I don't care who you are, this would eventually make one paranoid.
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Boston?
That’s kipper central. One foreign accent is one too many for those people.
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Immigrants are not responsible for crappy wages and high rents you silly racist.
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In Boston they are. Do some research before spouting off. I don't want to talk to you anymore, even if it was proven to be true you wouldn't admit it. You're an idiot.
You obviously don't work so a drop in wages wouldn't have an effect on you, and being as you don't work you no doubt have your rent paid for you. So it's alright for you to dismiss the impact a sudden influx of immigration has on an area when you live off handouts.
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Shut up you racist idiot, you know nothing about me.
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'Why would I be in massive denial?'
'It was even worse during the 70s/80s'
And that's exactly where we've heading back towards at the moment.
You know... where we were right at the point that we joined what would become the EU.
But yeah, let's take back control of our racism, eh?
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'Why would I be in massive denial?'
'It was even worse during the 70s/80s'
And that's exactly where we've heading back towards at the moment.
You know... where we were right at the point that we joined what would become the EU.
But yeah, let's take back control of our racism, eh?
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How are we heading that way ? Very minority isolated incidents have occurred, but in general racism is nothing compared to what it was during that era. I think you are grappling onto something that doesn’t exist. I’m not denying there isn’t racist incidents in the country. I’m not denying certain individuals use Brexit as a platform to expose racism, but to sit there and say because of Brexit, we are heading back to the racism of the 70s/80s is about as simple minded as one can get. These far right racists have been around long before Brexit, nothing has changed.
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In the 70s and 80s .A whole stand could be racially abusing a player.Todays racism is wishy washy compared with that period
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Not if you’re on the receiving end of it.
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No, I didnt make that out at all. The same applies for many people having a conversation with each other, for the question you didnt answer. What is making a person feel uncomfortable when people are talking to each other, involved in a conversion which isn't meant for that person? I mean, I assume they don't speak Polish to the native English speaker?
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We're talking about if the environment is continually like that over days or weeks or however long it was. Being around people who talk their own language and you're left outside of their bubble. You don't think that would make someone feel uncomfortable?
If you do not then fine, differences of opinion I guess.
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People will do that if they want, regardless of what language they speak and it will still make you uncomfortable. In my life I've experienced this without foreign language speakers being involved.
Not being funny but if these guys are making no effort to converse or get buddy buddy with you perhaps there could be other regular reasons you are "left out of the bubble".
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I don't know if you are talking to me like this is my own experience as it isn't.
Don't know why you're seeing this as a strange concept. Kind of obvious it's a matter of how easily you can manage to fit in with a crowd, and yes it could be through other circumstances and not a language barrier, but that is certainly one thing you wouldn't ordinarily expect for someone working in this country. Apparently now it can be.
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"ordinarily expect for someone working in this country."
That's where the niggle is IMO. An irrational expectation certain to lead to frustration. In this day and age, it should be expected because that's the way it is. You can't deny the reality of the world you live in, which has been heavily impacted by the UK to become what it is today.
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Wouldn't say it's irrational. I know the UK has changed a lot over the years and there has been an increase in immigrants but not to the extent that you might expect the language barrier to be a problem at your place of work if you are a native English speaker.
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FFS how many places are there where this is a problem?
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Boston-I know someone who worked in the B&M warehouse, he was a shift manager. He left because he felt uncomfortable when giving direction to his staff, they would often start conversing in Polish then start laughing. I don't care who you are, this would eventually make one paranoid.
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If my employees were conversing in English and then laughing after I'd given them instruction I'd get rid of them. I'm not sure what language has to do with anything here.
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No, I didnt make that out at all. The same applies for many people having a conversation with each other, for the question you didnt answer. What is making a person feel uncomfortable when people are talking to each other, involved in a conversion which isn't meant for that person? I mean, I assume they don't speak Polish to the native English speaker?
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We're talking about if the environment is continually like that over days or weeks or however long it was. Being around people who talk their own language and you're left outside of their bubble. You don't think that would make someone feel uncomfortable?
If you do not then fine, differences of opinion I guess.
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People will do that if they want, regardless of what language they speak and it will still make you uncomfortable. In my life I've experienced this without foreign language speakers being involved.
Not being funny but if these guys are making no effort to converse or get buddy buddy with you perhaps there could be other regular reasons you are "left out of the bubble".
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I don't know if you are talking to me like this is my own experience as it isn't.
Don't know why you're seeing this as a strange concept. Kind of obvious it's a matter of how easily you can manage to fit in with a crowd, and yes it could be through other circumstances and not a language barrier, but that is certainly one thing you wouldn't ordinarily expect for someone working in this country. Apparently now it can be.
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"ordinarily expect for someone working in this country."
That's where the niggle is IMO. An irrational expectation certain to lead to frustration. In this day and age, it should be expected because that's the way it is. You can't deny the reality of the world you live in, which has been heavily impacted by the UK to become what it is today.
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Wouldn't say it's irrational. I know the UK has changed a lot over the years and there has been an increase in immigrants but not to the extent that you might expect the language barrier to be a problem at your place of work if you are a native English speaker.
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FFS how many places are there where this is a problem?
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Boston-I know someone who worked in the B&M warehouse, he was a shift manager. He left because he felt uncomfortable when giving direction to his staff, they would often start conversing in Polish then start laughing. I don't care who you are, this would eventually make one paranoid.
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If my employees were conversing in English and then laughing after I'd given them instruction I'd get rid of them. I'm not sure what language has to do with anything here.
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Zactly.
posted on 2/2/20
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-51348619?SThisFB
Woman and child jump out of a window to escape a racist attack.
Brexit Britain.
posted on 2/2/20
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Northern Ireland voted to remain you fecking cretin
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No, I didnt make that out at all. The same applies for many people having a conversation with each other, for the question you didnt answer. What is making a person feel uncomfortable when people are talking to each other, involved in a conversion which isn't meant for that person? I mean, I assume they don't speak Polish to the native English speaker?
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We're talking about if the environment is continually like that over days or weeks or however long it was. Being around people who talk their own language and you're left outside of their bubble. You don't think that would make someone feel uncomfortable?
If you do not then fine, differences of opinion I guess.
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People will do that if they want, regardless of what language they speak and it will still make you uncomfortable. In my life I've experienced this without foreign language speakers being involved.
Not being funny but if these guys are making no effort to converse or get buddy buddy with you perhaps there could be other regular reasons you are "left out of the bubble".
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I don't know if you are talking to me like this is my own experience as it isn't.
Don't know why you're seeing this as a strange concept. Kind of obvious it's a matter of how easily you can manage to fit in with a crowd, and yes it could be through other circumstances and not a language barrier, but that is certainly one thing you wouldn't ordinarily expect for someone working in this country. Apparently now it can be.
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"ordinarily expect for someone working in this country."
That's where the niggle is IMO. An irrational expectation certain to lead to frustration. In this day and age, it should be expected because that's the way it is. You can't deny the reality of the world you live in, which has been heavily impacted by the UK to become what it is today.
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Wouldn't say it's irrational. I know the UK has changed a lot over the years and there has been an increase in immigrants but not to the extent that you might expect the language barrier to be a problem at your place of work if you are a native English speaker.
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FFS how many places are there where this is a problem?
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Boston-I know someone who worked in the B&M warehouse, he was a shift manager. He left because he felt uncomfortable when giving direction to his staff, they would often start conversing in Polish then start laughing. I don't care who you are, this would eventually make one paranoid.
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If my employees were conversing in English and then laughing after I'd given them instruction I'd get rid of them. I'm not sure what language has to do with anything here.
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Are you for real, you can’t sack someone for laughing when you haven’t a clue what they’ve said, xenophobia would most definitely be brought up, it’s different if they were speaking English.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-51348619?SThisFB
Woman and child jump out of a window to escape a racist attack.
Brexit Britain.
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Northern Ireland voted to remain you fecking cretin
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What, so the country as a whole gets one vote?
posted on 2/2/20
Anyway, who’s happy that the terrorist scuuuum got shot and killed today ? British police protecting the public brilliantly, could of been much worse. Far to close to home, only 20 mins up the road from me.
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Woman and child jump out of a window to escape a racist attack.
Brexit Britain.
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Northern Ireland voted to remain you fecking cretin
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So?
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No, I didnt make that out at all. The same applies for many people having a conversation with each other, for the question you didnt answer. What is making a person feel uncomfortable when people are talking to each other, involved in a conversion which isn't meant for that person? I mean, I assume they don't speak Polish to the native English speaker?
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We're talking about if the environment is continually like that over days or weeks or however long it was. Being around people who talk their own language and you're left outside of their bubble. You don't think that would make someone feel uncomfortable?
If you do not then fine, differences of opinion I guess.
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People will do that if they want, regardless of what language they speak and it will still make you uncomfortable. In my life I've experienced this without foreign language speakers being involved.
Not being funny but if these guys are making no effort to converse or get buddy buddy with you perhaps there could be other regular reasons you are "left out of the bubble".
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I don't know if you are talking to me like this is my own experience as it isn't.
Don't know why you're seeing this as a strange concept. Kind of obvious it's a matter of how easily you can manage to fit in with a crowd, and yes it could be through other circumstances and not a language barrier, but that is certainly one thing you wouldn't ordinarily expect for someone working in this country. Apparently now it can be.
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"ordinarily expect for someone working in this country."
That's where the niggle is IMO. An irrational expectation certain to lead to frustration. In this day and age, it should be expected because that's the way it is. You can't deny the reality of the world you live in, which has been heavily impacted by the UK to become what it is today.
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Wouldn't say it's irrational. I know the UK has changed a lot over the years and there has been an increase in immigrants but not to the extent that you might expect the language barrier to be a problem at your place of work if you are a native English speaker.
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FFS how many places are there where this is a problem?
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Boston-I know someone who worked in the B&M warehouse, he was a shift manager. He left because he felt uncomfortable when giving direction to his staff, they would often start conversing in Polish then start laughing. I don't care who you are, this would eventually make one paranoid.
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If my employees were conversing in English and then laughing after I'd given them instruction I'd get rid of them. I'm not sure what language has to do with anything here.
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Are you for real, you can’t sack someone for laughing when you haven’t a clue what they’ve said, xenophobia would most definitely be brought up, it’s different if they were speaking English.
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No. Talking, disrupting the meeting and being a bother when the boss is talking is a sackabke offence. You're not sacking them for what they said, you're sackingbyhrn for their behaviour. This is why language has nothing to do with it
posted on 2/2/20
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-51348619?SThisFB
Woman and child jump out of a window to escape a racist attack.
Brexit Britain.
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Northern Ireland voted to remain you fecking cretin
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What, so the country as a whole gets one vote?
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Blaming Brexit for the actions of this freak is ridiculous, that’s lime blaming all Muslims for the actions of the odd terrorist. You’re a bit slow on the uptake aren’t you soft lad?
posted on 2/2/20
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-51348619?SThisFB
Woman and child jump out of a window to escape a racist attack.
Brexit Britain.
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Northern Ireland voted to remain you fecking cretin
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What, so the country as a whole gets one vote?
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Blaming Brexit for the actions of this freak is ridiculous, that’s lime blaming all Muslims for the actions of the odd terrorist. You’re a bit slow on the uptake aren’t you soft lad?
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No, the point is that Brexit has arguably made people with racist views feel more comfortable with airing them, as if they’re more acceptable.
That could easily be as true in Northern Ireland as it could in England.
Let me know when you catch up.
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No, I didnt make that out at all. The same applies for many people having a conversation with each other, for the question you didnt answer. What is making a person feel uncomfortable when people are talking to each other, involved in a conversion which isn't meant for that person? I mean, I assume they don't speak Polish to the native English speaker?
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We're talking about if the environment is continually like that over days or weeks or however long it was. Being around people who talk their own language and you're left outside of their bubble. You don't think that would make someone feel uncomfortable?
If you do not then fine, differences of opinion I guess.
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People will do that if they want, regardless of what language they speak and it will still make you uncomfortable. In my life I've experienced this without foreign language speakers being involved.
Not being funny but if these guys are making no effort to converse or get buddy buddy with you perhaps there could be other regular reasons you are "left out of the bubble".
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I don't know if you are talking to me like this is my own experience as it isn't.
Don't know why you're seeing this as a strange concept. Kind of obvious it's a matter of how easily you can manage to fit in with a crowd, and yes it could be through other circumstances and not a language barrier, but that is certainly one thing you wouldn't ordinarily expect for someone working in this country. Apparently now it can be.
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"ordinarily expect for someone working in this country."
That's where the niggle is IMO. An irrational expectation certain to lead to frustration. In this day and age, it should be expected because that's the way it is. You can't deny the reality of the world you live in, which has been heavily impacted by the UK to become what it is today.
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Wouldn't say it's irrational. I know the UK has changed a lot over the years and there has been an increase in immigrants but not to the extent that you might expect the language barrier to be a problem at your place of work if you are a native English speaker.
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FFS how many places are there where this is a problem?
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Boston-I know someone who worked in the B&M warehouse, he was a shift manager. He left because he felt uncomfortable when giving direction to his staff, they would often start conversing in Polish then start laughing. I don't care who you are, this would eventually make one paranoid.
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If my employees were conversing in English and then laughing after I'd given them instruction I'd get rid of them. I'm not sure what language has to do with anything here.
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Are you for real, you can’t sack someone for laughing when you haven’t a clue what they’ve said, xenophobia would most definitely be brought up, it’s different if they were speaking English.
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No. Talking, disrupting the meeting and being a bother when the boss is talking is a sackabke offence. You're not sacking them for what they said, you're sackingbyhrn for their behaviour. This is why language has nothing to do with it
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No, it isn't, and when you're dealing with a minority, sacking them for what looks like a minor offence, is easier said than done.
posted on 2/2/20
No, the point is Brexit has emboldened racists (even in areas that voted to remain).
Figures from the home office show a ridiculous spike in hate crimes and racism incidents starting from 2016. Its level in the years before but there is officially a joke of a significant surge since Brexit.
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No, I didnt make that out at all. The same applies for many people having a conversation with each other, for the question you didnt answer. What is making a person feel uncomfortable when people are talking to each other, involved in a conversion which isn't meant for that person? I mean, I assume they don't speak Polish to the native English speaker?
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We're talking about if the environment is continually like that over days or weeks or however long it was. Being around people who talk their own language and you're left outside of their bubble. You don't think that would make someone feel uncomfortable?
If you do not then fine, differences of opinion I guess.
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People will do that if they want, regardless of what language they speak and it will still make you uncomfortable. In my life I've experienced this without foreign language speakers being involved.
Not being funny but if these guys are making no effort to converse or get buddy buddy with you perhaps there could be other regular reasons you are "left out of the bubble".
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I don't know if you are talking to me like this is my own experience as it isn't.
Don't know why you're seeing this as a strange concept. Kind of obvious it's a matter of how easily you can manage to fit in with a crowd, and yes it could be through other circumstances and not a language barrier, but that is certainly one thing you wouldn't ordinarily expect for someone working in this country. Apparently now it can be.
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"ordinarily expect for someone working in this country."
That's where the niggle is IMO. An irrational expectation certain to lead to frustration. In this day and age, it should be expected because that's the way it is. You can't deny the reality of the world you live in, which has been heavily impacted by the UK to become what it is today.
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Wouldn't say it's irrational. I know the UK has changed a lot over the years and there has been an increase in immigrants but not to the extent that you might expect the language barrier to be a problem at your place of work if you are a native English speaker.
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FFS how many places are there where this is a problem?
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Boston-I know someone who worked in the B&M warehouse, he was a shift manager. He left because he felt uncomfortable when giving direction to his staff, they would often start conversing in Polish then start laughing. I don't care who you are, this would eventually make one paranoid.
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If my employees were conversing in English and then laughing after I'd given them instruction I'd get rid of them. I'm not sure what language has to do with anything here.
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Are you for real, you can’t sack someone for laughing when you haven’t a clue what they’ve said, xenophobia would most definitely be brought up, it’s different if they were speaking English.
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No. Talking, disrupting the meeting and being a bother when the boss is talking is a sackabke offence. You're not sacking them for what they said, you're sackingbyhrn for their behaviour. This is why language has nothing to do with it
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No, it isn't, and when you're dealing with a minority, sacking them for what looks like a minor offence, is easier said than done.
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Are you speaking from experience? Its easily done. You should be believe the one or two horror stories to be the norm.
So you're saying they can laugh and chat in the bosses face and the boss wont do sheet because they're foreign?
Stop deluding yourself saaan.
posted on 2/2/20
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posted 11 minutes ago
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-51348619?SThisFB
Woman and child jump out of a window to escape a racist attack.
Brexit Britain.
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Northern Ireland voted to remain you fecking cretin
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So?
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There are far more racist countries in the EU than Britain, being in the EU doesn't automatically make that country the utopia for immigrants.
posted on 2/2/20
There are far more racist countries in the EU than Britain, being in the EU doesn't automatically make that country the utopia for immigrants.
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Nobody said it did.
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No, I didnt make that out at all. The same applies for many people having a conversation with each other, for the question you didnt answer. What is making a person feel uncomfortable when people are talking to each other, involved in a conversion which isn't meant for that person? I mean, I assume they don't speak Polish to the native English speaker?
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We're talking about if the environment is continually like that over days or weeks or however long it was. Being around people who talk their own language and you're left outside of their bubble. You don't think that would make someone feel uncomfortable?
If you do not then fine, differences of opinion I guess.
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People will do that if they want, regardless of what language they speak and it will still make you uncomfortable. In my life I've experienced this without foreign language speakers being involved.
Not being funny but if these guys are making no effort to converse or get buddy buddy with you perhaps there could be other regular reasons you are "left out of the bubble".
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I don't know if you are talking to me like this is my own experience as it isn't.
Don't know why you're seeing this as a strange concept. Kind of obvious it's a matter of how easily you can manage to fit in with a crowd, and yes it could be through other circumstances and not a language barrier, but that is certainly one thing you wouldn't ordinarily expect for someone working in this country. Apparently now it can be.
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"ordinarily expect for someone working in this country."
That's where the niggle is IMO. An irrational expectation certain to lead to frustration. In this day and age, it should be expected because that's the way it is. You can't deny the reality of the world you live in, which has been heavily impacted by the UK to become what it is today.
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Wouldn't say it's irrational. I know the UK has changed a lot over the years and there has been an increase in immigrants but not to the extent that you might expect the language barrier to be a problem at your place of work if you are a native English speaker.
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FFS how many places are there where this is a problem?
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Boston-I know someone who worked in the B&M warehouse, he was a shift manager. He left because he felt uncomfortable when giving direction to his staff, they would often start conversing in Polish then start laughing. I don't care who you are, this would eventually make one paranoid.
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If my employees were conversing in English and then laughing after I'd given them instruction I'd get rid of them. I'm not sure what language has to do with anything here.
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Are you for real, you can’t sack someone for laughing when you haven’t a clue what they’ve said, xenophobia would most definitely be brought up, it’s different if they were speaking English.
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Of course you can. You've given instruction and instead of following it they've began talking and laughing. I've sacked people for less. Still not sure what language has to do with this.
Really it sounds like a scenario somebody has made up as it's their best attempt at finding something which may not appear xenophobic but still allow them to be against people speaking to each other, in their own language.
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No, I didnt make that out at all. The same applies for many people having a conversation with each other, for the question you didnt answer. What is making a person feel uncomfortable when people are talking to each other, involved in a conversion which isn't meant for that person? I mean, I assume they don't speak Polish to the native English speaker?
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We're talking about if the environment is continually like that over days or weeks or however long it was. Being around people who talk their own language and you're left outside of their bubble. You don't think that would make someone feel uncomfortable?
If you do not then fine, differences of opinion I guess.
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People will do that if they want, regardless of what language they speak and it will still make you uncomfortable. In my life I've experienced this without foreign language speakers being involved.
Not being funny but if these guys are making no effort to converse or get buddy buddy with you perhaps there could be other regular reasons you are "left out of the bubble".
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don't know if you are talking to me like this is my own experience as it isn't.
Don't know why you're seeing this as a strange concept. Kind of obvious it's a matter of how easily you can manage to fit in with a crowd, and yes it could be through other circumstances and not a language barrier, but that is certainly one thing you wouldn't ordinarily expect for someone working in this country. Apparently now it can be.
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"ordinarily expect for someone working in this country."
That's where the niggle is IMO. An irrational expectation certain to lead to frustration. In this day and age, it should be expected because that's the way it is. You can't deny the reality of the world you live in, which has been heavily impacted by the UK to become what it is today.
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Wouldn't say it's irrational. I know the UK has changed a lot over the years and there has been an increase in immigrants but not to the extent that you might expect the language barrier to be a problem at your place of work if you are a native English speaker.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
FFS how many places are there where this is a problem?
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Boston-I know someone who worked in the B&M warehouse, he was a shift manager. He left because he felt uncomfortable when giving direction to his staff, they would often start conversing in Polish then start laughing. I don't care who you are, this would eventually make one paranoid.
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If my employees were conversing in English and then laughing after I'd given them instruction I'd get rid of them. I'm not sure what language has to do with anything here.
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Are you for real, you can’t sack someone for laughing when you haven’t a clue what they’ve said, xenophobia would most definitely be brought up, it’s different if they were speaking English.
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No. Talking, disrupting the meeting and being a bother when the boss is talking is a sackabke offence. You're not sacking them for what they said, you're sackingbyhrn for their behaviour. This is why language has nothing to do with it
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No, it isn't, and when you're dealing with a minority, sacking them for what looks like a minor offence, is easier said than done.
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Are you speaking from experience? Its easily done. You should be believe the one or two horror stories to be the norm.
So you're saying they can laugh and chat in the bosses face and the boss wont do sheet because they're foreign?
Stop deluding yourself saaan.
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My Missus is a band 7 for the Environmental Health and I'm telling you, you can't sack someone for laughing, she's disciplined loads of people for far worse offences, that still haven't warranted dismissal.
posted on 2/2/20
TOOR, I don’t agree with this guy on the rubbish he’s spouting but... you’ve sacked people for less?
I call bullsheite on that one!
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No, I didnt make that out at all. The same applies for many people having a conversation with each other, for the question you didnt answer. What is making a person feel uncomfortable when people are talking to each other, involved in a conversion which isn't meant for that person? I mean, I assume they don't speak Polish to the native English speaker?
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We're talking about if the environment is continually like that over days or weeks or however long it was. Being around people who talk their own language and you're left outside of their bubble. You don't think that would make someone feel uncomfortable?
If you do not then fine, differences of opinion I guess.
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People will do that if they want, regardless of what language they speak and it will still make you uncomfortable. In my life I've experienced this without foreign language speakers being involved.
Not being funny but if these guys are making no effort to converse or get buddy buddy with you perhaps there could be other regular reasons you are "left out of the bubble".
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I don't know if you are talking to me like this is my own experience as it isn't.
Don't know why you're seeing this as a strange concept. Kind of obvious it's a matter of how easily you can manage to fit in with a crowd, and yes it could be through other circumstances and not a language barrier, but that is certainly one thing you wouldn't ordinarily expect for someone working in this country. Apparently now it can be.
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"ordinarily expect for someone working in this country."
That's where the niggle is IMO. An irrational expectation certain to lead to frustration. In this day and age, it should be expected because that's the way it is. You can't deny the reality of the world you live in, which has been heavily impacted by the UK to become what it is today.
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Wouldn't say it's irrational. I know the UK has changed a lot over the years and there has been an increase in immigrants but not to the extent that you might expect the language barrier to be a problem at your place of work if you are a native English speaker.
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FFS how many places are there where this is a problem?
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Boston-I know someone who worked in the B&M warehouse, he was a shift manager. He left because he felt uncomfortable when giving direction to his staff, they would often start conversing in Polish then start laughing. I don't care who you are, this would eventually make one paranoid.
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If my employees were conversing in English and then laughing after I'd given them instruction I'd get rid of them. I'm not sure what language has to do with anything here.
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Are you for real, you can’t sack someone for laughing when you haven’t a clue what they’ve said, xenophobia would most definitely be brought up, it’s different if they were speaking English.
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Of course you can. You've given instruction and instead of following it they've began talking and laughing. I've sacked people for less. Still not sure what language has to do with this.
Really it sounds like a scenario somebody has made up as it's their best attempt at finding something which may not appear xenophobic but still allow them to be against people speaking to each other, in their own language.
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You must be a window cleaner because there's no way you could sack someone for merely laughing, especially if they're foreign or a minority. Any government department or large organisation are terrified of being branded, racist.
posted on 2/2/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
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TOOR, I don’t agree with this guy on the rubbish he’s spouting but... you’ve sacked people for less?
I call bullsheite on that one!
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I once sacked a guy for repeatedly saying he used to manage somewhere, every time I gave him something to do, as if to say what I was asking him was beneath him. I basically sacked him for being an arrogant tw@.
I said that's less than somebody laughing when you ask them to do something.
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