comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 6 seconds ago
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posted 5 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by I got Braga Bragging Rights (U21917)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by I got Braga Bragging Rights (U21917)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by (U22371)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by deBear (U8633)
posted 24 seconds ago
he information dispensed to Clubs and the process utilised in putting forward the resolution, could potentially be held to be a breach of the duty by the SPFL to provide sufficient information to member clubs to allow them to make a properly informed decision in relation to the SPFL’s resolution. In particular, the Opinion highlights the fact that the SPFL did not explain to member clubs alternative means by which payments could be made other than by requiring the immediate termination of the current league season. On that basis, clubs may have lacked sufficient information – by omission - to make an informed decision based on the SPFL’s briefing document.

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This is the key failure by the SPFL for me.

They so clearly biased the decision in favour of one option when it's clear there were other options available.

These options may (or may not) have been far less palatable/ workable but any responsible organisation putting a significant proposal to it's members must lay out all the options on an equal footing in terms of pros & cons and let the clubs decide on the fullest information possible.

Not having all the options (and potential consequences/benefits) in the open leads to poor quality decisions.
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It’s a litany of Fack ups from the start and you would need to be really bitter with an ulterior motive not to recognise this. Six options discussed but only one put to vote, telling the clubs a yes vote is the only way to get their money when another option exists, the 5pm deadline that could be extended to 28 days to gain a negotiating advantage, the changing of a no vote to a yes vote - it has been an unmitigated disaster and the fact that there are no impartial and independent voices defending the SPFL says all you need to know on the matter. But some will turn a blind eye to the incompetence and downright corruption because they stand to gain a trophy from it that they have not won. And at the same time they paint themselves whiter than white and the paragons of virtue. It is absolutely pathetic and reeks of desperation to get one over their rivals whilst the country is on its knees with tens of thousands dying!

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exactly vote yes and we may give you the money you need to survive, vote no and we'll hold it

that seems like a pretty fair vote PMSL.

Dundee given weeks to vote vote one way and now want to retract it because... who the F knows.

I can't imagine any other body c0cking something up so badly.


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That goes back to the current rule that prize money can only be given at the end of the season.

If the season isn't over......
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that's fine by me, let's finish the season on the pitch
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The country is on it's knees and thousands are dying. <sic>

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Which part do you not agree to?

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You are the part I disagree with, Numbskull.
You use people dying in a football forum to attack your rivals.
Vile does not begin to describe you.

Now fek aft and annoy ginger, Dafty.
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Annoy?

Hardly

never has anything original to say nor one single thought of his own yet creeps around trying to find things people (especially me) have got wrong and worry it to death in some act of smugness. How very sad.

Wee freak won't leave me alone

I think it's jealousy.

I'll just leave that there safe in the knowledge that wee grey lines will appear

comment by Bluebell (U7064)
posted 1 minute ago
Ginger

Legal aid and your paying hahaha!
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I'm sorry m'Lud. I don't know this man

I'm just trying to annoy ginger by reposting Daffy's Drivel.

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Bluebell (U7064)
posted 1 minute ago
Ginger

Legal aid and your paying hahaha!
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I'm sorry m'Lud. I don't know this man
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Bet yer fookin glad anaw

Well then

According to the QC the season can't be finished early meaning prize money can't be awarded, but everyone can apply for a loan.

Good luck. We'll be fine

comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 1 minute ago
I'm just trying to annoy ginger by reposting Daffy's Drivel.
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You'll be getting grey lined next

comment by Bluebell (U7064)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Bluebell (U7064)
posted 1 minute ago
Ginger

Legal aid and your paying hahaha!
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I'm sorry m'Lud. I don't know this man
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Bet yer fookin glad anaw
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I think you're right

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 second ago
Well then

According to the QC the season can't be finished early meaning prize money can't be awarded, but everyone can apply for a loan.

Good luck. We'll be fine


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I will accept Canadian dollars, sir.
Could you send me the application?
Registered Mail, please.
So we know when I receive it.

comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 second ago
Well then

According to the QC the season can't be finished early meaning prize money can't be awarded, but everyone can apply for a loan.

Good luck. We'll be fine


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I will accept Canadian dollars, sir.
Could you send me the application?
Registered Mail, please.
So we know when I receive it.
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No

comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by (U22371)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by I got Braga Bragging Rights (U21917)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by I got Braga Bragging Rights (U21917)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by (U22371)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by deBear (U8633)
posted 24 seconds ago
he information dispensed to Clubs and the process utilised in putting forward the resolution, could potentially be held to be a breach of the duty by the SPFL to provide sufficient information to member clubs to allow them to make a properly informed decision in relation to the SPFL’s resolution. In particular, the Opinion highlights the fact that the SPFL did not explain to member clubs alternative means by which payments could be made other than by requiring the immediate termination of the current league season. On that basis, clubs may have lacked sufficient information – by omission - to make an informed decision based on the SPFL’s briefing document.

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This is the key failure by the SPFL for me.

They so clearly biased the decision in favour of one option when it's clear there were other options available.

These options may (or may not) have been far less palatable/ workable but any responsible organisation putting a significant proposal to it's members must lay out all the options on an equal footing in terms of pros & cons and let the clubs decide on the fullest information possible.

Not having all the options (and potential consequences/benefits) in the open leads to poor quality decisions.
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It’s a litany of Fack ups from the start and you would need to be really bitter with an ulterior motive not to recognise this. Six options discussed but only one put to vote, telling the clubs a yes vote is the only way to get their money when another option exists, the 5pm deadline that could be extended to 28 days to gain a negotiating advantage, the changing of a no vote to a yes vote - it has been an unmitigated disaster and the fact that there are no impartial and independent voices defending the SPFL says all you need to know on the matter. But some will turn a blind eye to the incompetence and downright corruption because they stand to gain a trophy from it that they have not won. And at the same time they paint themselves whiter than white and the paragons of virtue. It is absolutely pathetic and reeks of desperation to get one over their rivals whilst the country is on its knees with tens of thousands dying!

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exactly vote yes and we may give you the money you need to survive, vote no and we'll hold it

that seems like a pretty fair vote PMSL.

Dundee given weeks to vote vote one way and now want to retract it because... who the F knows.

I can't imagine any other body c0cking something up so badly.


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That goes back to the current rule that prize money can only be given at the end of the season.

If the season isn't over......
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that's fine by me, let's finish the season on the pitch
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The country is on it's knees and thousands are dying. <sic>

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Which part do you not agree to?

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You are the part I disagree with, Numbskull.
You use people dying in a football forum to attack your rivals.
Vile does not begin to describe you.

Now fek aft and annoy ginger, Dafty.
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So you agree then that there are more important things going on at the moment than celtic getting a trophy they have not won?

grey line

ffs

comment by (U22371)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by (U22371)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by I got Braga Bragging Rights (U21917)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by I got Braga Bragging Rights (U21917)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by (U22371)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by deBear (U8633)
posted 24 seconds ago
he information dispensed to Clubs and the process utilised in putting forward the resolution, could potentially be held to be a breach of the duty by the SPFL to provide sufficient information to member clubs to allow them to make a properly informed decision in relation to the SPFL’s resolution. In particular, the Opinion highlights the fact that the SPFL did not explain to member clubs alternative means by which payments could be made other than by requiring the immediate termination of the current league season. On that basis, clubs may have lacked sufficient information – by omission - to make an informed decision based on the SPFL’s briefing document.

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This is the key failure by the SPFL for me.

They so clearly biased the decision in favour of one option when it's clear there were other options available.

These options may (or may not) have been far less palatable/ workable but any responsible organisation putting a significant proposal to it's members must lay out all the options on an equal footing in terms of pros & cons and let the clubs decide on the fullest information possible.

Not having all the options (and potential consequences/benefits) in the open leads to poor quality decisions.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

It’s a litany of Fack ups from the start and you would need to be really bitter with an ulterior motive not to recognise this. Six options discussed but only one put to vote, telling the clubs a yes vote is the only way to get their money when another option exists, the 5pm deadline that could be extended to 28 days to gain a negotiating advantage, the changing of a no vote to a yes vote - it has been an unmitigated disaster and the fact that there are no impartial and independent voices defending the SPFL says all you need to know on the matter. But some will turn a blind eye to the incompetence and downright corruption because they stand to gain a trophy from it that they have not won. And at the same time they paint themselves whiter than white and the paragons of virtue. It is absolutely pathetic and reeks of desperation to get one over their rivals whilst the country is on its knees with tens of thousands dying!

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exactly vote yes and we may give you the money you need to survive, vote no and we'll hold it

that seems like a pretty fair vote PMSL.

Dundee given weeks to vote vote one way and now want to retract it because... who the F knows.

I can't imagine any other body c0cking something up so badly.


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That goes back to the current rule that prize money can only be given at the end of the season.

If the season isn't over......
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that's fine by me, let's finish the season on the pitch
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The country is on it's knees and thousands are dying. <sic>

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Which part do you not agree to?

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You are the part I disagree with, Numbskull.
You use people dying in a football forum to attack your rivals.
Vile does not begin to describe you.

Now fek aft and annoy ginger, Dafty.
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So you agree then that there are more important things going on at the moment than celtic getting a trophy they have not won?

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Was won as soon as your managers slated your players.

No way you were ever turning the point gap over.

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Bluebell (U7064)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bluebell (U7064)
posted 1 minute ago
Good to blow them away noo and again tho
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What is?

And what?
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The resident experts!

And YOU


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I gave my considered opinion which a QC disagrees with.

He might be wrong

Fwck me, how can I argue with that?My understanding was way off course. Ah well; every day and all that. I certainly appear to have got that wrong.

The essence from further reading is that the SPFL failed to inform clubs that they could ask for loans and they didn't have to be tied into ending the season. With that maybe clubs would have voted differently and just applied for a loan.

I'm not convinced that the SPFL would have been able to loan to all and sundry as it also states they could ask for security against these loans in any event but that doesn't change the fact.

Of note also I believe is that the SPFL cannot declare the season ended which in turn means they cannot give out prize money. They mention August but I don't know why. Seems late to me.

Lastly, I don't think the QC or the legal agents will be too impressed at having their legal advice put up on a football forum for all and sundry to read, but we can let you go to jail for that
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Well done in admitting you were wrong, credit where it is due . Now perhaps you can stop being so forceful and condescending with your opinions and acknowledge that there are people who know more about certain things than you do and stop being so dismissive of the opinions of others

Ginger, you say it's incapable of original thought.
Are there others like this staggering around the streets?

Finger closer to the filter button by the post.

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comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 10 minutes ago
I'm just trying to annoy ginger by reposting Daffy's Drivel.
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What is it with you celtic fans and your intelligence superiority complexes? You’s are forever calling people dafties, questioning their jobs, opinions etc. Can you not just understand that there are people that know more about certain things than you do? You would think that getting totally proven wrong by an advocate that you would hold back on the name calling and questioning people’s intelligences

About time Africa chipped in with a concert to help out.

comment by Zachsda(change our mindset, treat this seriously) (U1850)
posted 3 minutes ago
I think I mentioned this wouldn’t end with “the vote”
Ffs we need to get Eurovision to conduct the next vote
Football here deserves to die it’s hated itself to death
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You would need to be rather silly to think it would, but it’s us bears that are the dafties for pointing it out. They are certainly not daft for getting it wrong

comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 7 minutes ago
Ginger, you say it's incapable of original thought.
Are there others like this staggering around the streets?

Finger closer to the filter button by the post.
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Seems to have taken up residence here mate

comment by (U22371)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 10 minutes ago
I'm just trying to annoy ginger by reposting Daffy's Drivel.
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What is it with you celtic fans and your intelligence superiority complexes? You’s are forever calling people dafties, questioning their jobs, opinions etc. Can you not just understand that there are people that know more about certain things than you do? You would think that getting totally proven wrong by an advocate that you would hold back on the name calling and questioning people’s intelligences

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Catholic Schools, best in the country.

Gingers a catholic noo

Aff yer nuts

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 7 minutes ago
Ginger, you say it's incapable of original thought.
Are there others like this staggering around the streets?

Finger closer to the filter button by the post.
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Seems to have taken up residence here mate
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I forgot it was your forum and actually thought that a captain of industry such as yourself would have a lot of work to do during this crisis

comment by Bluebell (U7064)
posted 1 minute ago
Gingers a catholic noo

Aff yer nuts
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Who you calling a catholic?

I know your a bad prod silly