Please don't anyone copy and paste it.
I'd rather scrape my own eyeballs out than get involved with this again, whatever it is.
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ffs nobody is claiming that it should count from the moment Dundee pressed send.
It counts from the moment it was received - and that's datemarked by the computer.
It was received the moment it was put into quarantine by the computer because the system thought it looked suspicious (probably because it was simply an attachment with no text). That is technically when it was received.
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comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 6 seconds ago
Just what do some clubs want out of this?
Some of the requests are quite baffling, money but no title, money but no relegation, and so on...its bat schit crazy but they all want the money.
Well if its the money you are after you will have to accept your league position simple as that...there is no situation wherein the SPFL will hand out all the prize cash and not call the league...just will not happen.
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lex
I'm more than happy they get the money. No conditions attached. All of it and now. It will likely save some clubs and that's important and the right thing to do.
For those with big outgoings though it won't make much of a difference.
What seems to be getting missed is that "only" £9m ish of the £25m is left to pay out. That's 34% of what they could earn on final placings.
It's not unreasonable to suggest that payments to date have been made on a sliding scale or thereabouts.
So for us it means £1.14m, Rangers £816k and Hearts £380k
It won't cover costs for much more than a week or two.
Now when that has gone and we are a month further down to road with still no end in sight and we are being told by EUFA to close up, what will be the reason for not having champions and/or relegation or restructuring?
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 5 minutes ago
ffs nobody is claiming that it should count from the moment Dundee pressed send.
It counts from the moment it was received - and that's datemarked by the computer.
It was received the moment it was put into quarantine by the computer because the system thought it looked suspicious (probably because it was simply an attachment with no text). That is technically when it was received.
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Excellent
Use that argument Rangers, Thistle, Hearts etc etc.
Oh wait.....
Sakes Ivan. BATTLE OF THE FORMS
I give up
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 5 minutes ago
ffs nobody is claiming that it should count from the moment Dundee pressed send.
It counts from the moment it was received - and that's datemarked by the computer.
It was received the moment it was put into quarantine by the computer because the system thought it looked suspicious (probably because it was simply an attachment with no text). That is technically when it was received.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Excellent
Use that argument Rangers, Thistle, Hearts etc etc.
Oh wait.....
Sakes Ivan. BATTLE OF THE FORMS
I give up
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I'm quite confident my argument would stand up in court
And I've repeatedly used the word 'technically' to highlight this.
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 1 minute ago
What is Mad Phil and FF's opinion(s) on these matters, we must turn to wallopers in these dark times, wallopers who are of course In the Know
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I'd recommend John James on this rather than Phil. I believe that he has some actual sources rather than just made up stuff. His better stuff is password protected but he has some good insights.
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 5 minutes ago
ffs nobody is claiming that it should count from the moment Dundee pressed send.
It counts from the moment it was received - and that's datemarked by the computer.
It was received the moment it was put into quarantine by the computer because the system thought it looked suspicious (probably because it was simply an attachment with no text). That is technically when it was received.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Excellent
Use that argument Rangers, Thistle, Hearts etc etc.
Oh wait.....
Sakes Ivan. BATTLE OF THE FORMS
I give up
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm quite confident my argument would stand up in court
And I've repeatedly used the word 'technically' to highlight this.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Good luck
Let us know etc etc.
Also I hope you can fund this....
technically speaking of course
Yeah all rangers resolution does is kick it down the line. It doesn't actually help the situation as it stands.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 5 minutes ago
ffs nobody is claiming that it should count from the moment Dundee pressed send.
It counts from the moment it was received - and that's datemarked by the computer.
It was received the moment it was put into quarantine by the computer because the system thought it looked suspicious (probably because it was simply an attachment with no text). That is technically when it was received.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Excellent
Use that argument Rangers, Thistle, Hearts etc etc.
Oh wait.....
Sakes Ivan. BATTLE OF THE FORMS
I give up
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm quite confident my argument would stand up in court
And I've repeatedly used the word 'technically' to highlight this.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Good luck
Let us know etc etc.
Also I hope you can fund this....
technically speaking of course
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The change in vote actually suits my club so I doubt I'll be advising United on how to combat this
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 15 minutes ago
grey line
ffs
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I remember you and your gang of pals would criticise laudrup for continually mentioning seeing grey lines of those he filtered. You are certainly not a hypocrite though
BATTLE OF THE FORMS
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Worst cartoon name ever?
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 5 minutes ago
ffs nobody is claiming that it should count from the moment Dundee pressed send.
It counts from the moment it was received - and that's datemarked by the computer.
It was received the moment it was put into quarantine by the computer because the system thought it looked suspicious (probably because it was simply an attachment with no text). That is technically when it was received.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Excellent
Use that argument Rangers, Thistle, Hearts etc etc.
Oh wait.....
Sakes Ivan. BATTLE OF THE FORMS
I give up
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm quite confident my argument would stand up in court
And I've repeatedly used the word 'technically' to highlight this.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Good luck
Let us know etc etc.
Also I hope you can fund this....
technically speaking of course
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The change in vote actually suits my club so I doubt I'll be advising United on how to combat this
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hah
Get out clause
Did you send in your disclaimer first?
comment by deBear (U8633)
posted 59 seconds ago
BATTLE OF THE FORMS
---------------------
Worst cartoon name ever?
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Or game show
comment by New Magnum. The Mild Drover (U16400)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 1 minute ago
What is Mad Phil and FF's opinion(s) on these matters, we must turn to wallopers in these dark times, wallopers who are of course In the Know
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'd recommend John James on this rather than Phil. I believe that he has some actual sources rather than just made up stuff. His better stuff is password protected but he has some good insights.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is he the one that pretended to be a Rangers supporter at first?
I will be honest - I haven't really read much about this whole voting fiasco. It bores me to tears.
Can someone clarify what is supposed to have happened re Dundee?
Did they email in their vote and then ask for it not to be counted after they realised they were in a position to maybe force change more favourable to them?
And are the SPFL saying they never counted Dundees 'no' vote because they never officially 'received' the email because it went into a quarantine folder?
This is what I am surmising from this thread and the few snippets I have failed to avoid.
Tell me this is not what has happened!
Are people genuinely trying to say that because an email went into a quarantine folder that it wasn't formally submitted and received?
That's fookin comical if its true......
"I'm fair looking for ward to that two grand 65" OLED I ordered"
Great, that's a mail in saying it's been delivered to my house!
Get's home - Where's my fckn TV?
Ho, Amazon, wtf?
Did you get our mail saying it had been delivered?
Yes.
Then there you go.
A bit...
My understanding hamish is they voted, it wasn't received until later, they were upset at a club not voting, discovered it to be themselves and were going to resend but then found themselves in a strong position so withdrew that vote which was received and later their original too. They have now decided its a well thought out proposal after all.
comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 1 minute ago
I will be honest - I haven't really read much about this whole voting fiasco. It bores me to tears.
Can someone clarify what is supposed to have happened re Dundee?
Did they email in their vote and then ask for it not to be counted after they realised they were in a position to maybe force change more favourable to them?
And are the SPFL saying they never counted Dundees 'no' vote because they never officially 'received' the email because it went into a quarantine folder?
This is what I am surmising from this thread and the few snippets I have failed to avoid.
Tell me this is not what has happened!
Are people genuinely trying to say that because an email went into a quarantine folder that it wasn't formally submitted and received?
That's fookin comical if its true......
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Basically a lot of toys are being flung out the pram as the vote doesn't go the way some clubs wanted it to.
None of it actually gets us any closer to seeing football again.
comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 1 minute ago
I will be honest - I haven't really read much about this whole voting fiasco. It bores me to tears.
Can someone clarify what is supposed to have happened re Dundee?
Did they email in their vote and then ask for it not to be counted after they realised they were in a position to maybe force change more favourable to them?
And are the SPFL saying they never counted Dundees 'no' vote because they never officially 'received' the email because it went into a quarantine folder?
This is what I am surmising from this thread and the few snippets I have failed to avoid.
Tell me this is not what has happened!
Are people genuinely trying to say that because an email went into a quarantine folder that it wasn't formally submitted and received?
That's fookin comical if its true......
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, no. It has to be printed off and handed personally to Neil Doncaster to count 🤨
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 2 minutes ago
"I'm fair looking for ward to that two grand 65" OLED I ordered"
Great, that's a mail in saying it's been delivered to my house!
Get's home - Where's my fckn TV?
Ho, Amazon, wtf?
Did you get our mail saying it had been delivered?
Yes.
Then there you go.
A bit...
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yup, it’s exactly like that! Why do you guys persist in wasting your own time typing out an analogy that does not represent the point that is being discussed
comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 1 minute ago
I will be honest - I haven't really read much about this whole voting fiasco. It bores me to tears.
Can someone clarify what is supposed to have happened re Dundee?
Did they email in their vote and then ask for it not to be counted after they realised they were in a position to maybe force change more favourable to them?
And are the SPFL saying they never counted Dundees 'no' vote because they never officially 'received' the email because it went into a quarantine folder?
This is what I am surmising from this thread and the few snippets I have failed to avoid.
Tell me this is not what has happened!
Are people genuinely trying to say that because an email went into a quarantine folder that it wasn't formally submitted and received?
That's fookin comical if its true......
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don't think anyone knows yet? It was Dundee that surmised in the whatsapp about the junk email thing was it not?
With all these emails flying in just before 5 I can also surmise a scenario where the admin at the SPFL presses delete just as a new mail arrives shuttling the list order and the unread mail from Dundee goes straight into the bin without realising albeit it is recoverable. Think we've all done that?
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posted on 14/4/20
grey line
ffs
posted on 14/4/20
Please don't anyone copy and paste it.
I'd rather scrape my own eyeballs out than get involved with this again, whatever it is.
posted on 14/4/20
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 14/4/20
ffs nobody is claiming that it should count from the moment Dundee pressed send.
It counts from the moment it was received - and that's datemarked by the computer.
It was received the moment it was put into quarantine by the computer because the system thought it looked suspicious (probably because it was simply an attachment with no text). That is technically when it was received.
posted on 14/4/20
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 14/4/20
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 6 seconds ago
Just what do some clubs want out of this?
Some of the requests are quite baffling, money but no title, money but no relegation, and so on...its bat schit crazy but they all want the money.
Well if its the money you are after you will have to accept your league position simple as that...there is no situation wherein the SPFL will hand out all the prize cash and not call the league...just will not happen.
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lex
I'm more than happy they get the money. No conditions attached. All of it and now. It will likely save some clubs and that's important and the right thing to do.
For those with big outgoings though it won't make much of a difference.
What seems to be getting missed is that "only" £9m ish of the £25m is left to pay out. That's 34% of what they could earn on final placings.
It's not unreasonable to suggest that payments to date have been made on a sliding scale or thereabouts.
So for us it means £1.14m, Rangers £816k and Hearts £380k
It won't cover costs for much more than a week or two.
Now when that has gone and we are a month further down to road with still no end in sight and we are being told by EUFA to close up, what will be the reason for not having champions and/or relegation or restructuring?
posted on 14/4/20
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 5 minutes ago
ffs nobody is claiming that it should count from the moment Dundee pressed send.
It counts from the moment it was received - and that's datemarked by the computer.
It was received the moment it was put into quarantine by the computer because the system thought it looked suspicious (probably because it was simply an attachment with no text). That is technically when it was received.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Excellent
Use that argument Rangers, Thistle, Hearts etc etc.
Oh wait.....
Sakes Ivan. BATTLE OF THE FORMS
I give up
posted on 14/4/20
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 5 minutes ago
ffs nobody is claiming that it should count from the moment Dundee pressed send.
It counts from the moment it was received - and that's datemarked by the computer.
It was received the moment it was put into quarantine by the computer because the system thought it looked suspicious (probably because it was simply an attachment with no text). That is technically when it was received.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Excellent
Use that argument Rangers, Thistle, Hearts etc etc.
Oh wait.....
Sakes Ivan. BATTLE OF THE FORMS
I give up
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm quite confident my argument would stand up in court
And I've repeatedly used the word 'technically' to highlight this.
posted on 14/4/20
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 1 minute ago
What is Mad Phil and FF's opinion(s) on these matters, we must turn to wallopers in these dark times, wallopers who are of course In the Know
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'd recommend John James on this rather than Phil. I believe that he has some actual sources rather than just made up stuff. His better stuff is password protected but he has some good insights.
posted on 14/4/20
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 5 minutes ago
ffs nobody is claiming that it should count from the moment Dundee pressed send.
It counts from the moment it was received - and that's datemarked by the computer.
It was received the moment it was put into quarantine by the computer because the system thought it looked suspicious (probably because it was simply an attachment with no text). That is technically when it was received.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Excellent
Use that argument Rangers, Thistle, Hearts etc etc.
Oh wait.....
Sakes Ivan. BATTLE OF THE FORMS
I give up
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm quite confident my argument would stand up in court
And I've repeatedly used the word 'technically' to highlight this.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Good luck
Let us know etc etc.
Also I hope you can fund this....
technically speaking of course
posted on 14/4/20
Yeah all rangers resolution does is kick it down the line. It doesn't actually help the situation as it stands.
posted on 14/4/20
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 5 minutes ago
ffs nobody is claiming that it should count from the moment Dundee pressed send.
It counts from the moment it was received - and that's datemarked by the computer.
It was received the moment it was put into quarantine by the computer because the system thought it looked suspicious (probably because it was simply an attachment with no text). That is technically when it was received.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Excellent
Use that argument Rangers, Thistle, Hearts etc etc.
Oh wait.....
Sakes Ivan. BATTLE OF THE FORMS
I give up
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm quite confident my argument would stand up in court
And I've repeatedly used the word 'technically' to highlight this.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Good luck
Let us know etc etc.
Also I hope you can fund this....
technically speaking of course
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The change in vote actually suits my club so I doubt I'll be advising United on how to combat this
posted on 14/4/20
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 15 minutes ago
grey line
ffs
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I remember you and your gang of pals would criticise laudrup for continually mentioning seeing grey lines of those he filtered. You are certainly not a hypocrite though
posted on 14/4/20
BATTLE OF THE FORMS
---------------------
Worst cartoon name ever?
posted on 14/4/20
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 5 minutes ago
ffs nobody is claiming that it should count from the moment Dundee pressed send.
It counts from the moment it was received - and that's datemarked by the computer.
It was received the moment it was put into quarantine by the computer because the system thought it looked suspicious (probably because it was simply an attachment with no text). That is technically when it was received.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Excellent
Use that argument Rangers, Thistle, Hearts etc etc.
Oh wait.....
Sakes Ivan. BATTLE OF THE FORMS
I give up
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm quite confident my argument would stand up in court
And I've repeatedly used the word 'technically' to highlight this.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Good luck
Let us know etc etc.
Also I hope you can fund this....
technically speaking of course
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The change in vote actually suits my club so I doubt I'll be advising United on how to combat this
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hah
Get out clause
Did you send in your disclaimer first?
posted on 14/4/20
grey line
Again
posted on 14/4/20
comment by deBear (U8633)
posted 59 seconds ago
BATTLE OF THE FORMS
---------------------
Worst cartoon name ever?
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Or game show
posted on 14/4/20
comment by New Magnum. The Mild Drover (U16400)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 1 minute ago
What is Mad Phil and FF's opinion(s) on these matters, we must turn to wallopers in these dark times, wallopers who are of course In the Know
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'd recommend John James on this rather than Phil. I believe that he has some actual sources rather than just made up stuff. His better stuff is password protected but he has some good insights.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is he the one that pretended to be a Rangers supporter at first?
posted on 14/4/20
I will be honest - I haven't really read much about this whole voting fiasco. It bores me to tears.
Can someone clarify what is supposed to have happened re Dundee?
Did they email in their vote and then ask for it not to be counted after they realised they were in a position to maybe force change more favourable to them?
And are the SPFL saying they never counted Dundees 'no' vote because they never officially 'received' the email because it went into a quarantine folder?
This is what I am surmising from this thread and the few snippets I have failed to avoid.
Tell me this is not what has happened!
Are people genuinely trying to say that because an email went into a quarantine folder that it wasn't formally submitted and received?
That's fookin comical if its true......
posted on 14/4/20
"I'm fair looking for ward to that two grand 65" OLED I ordered"
Great, that's a mail in saying it's been delivered to my house!
Get's home - Where's my fckn TV?
Ho, Amazon, wtf?
Did you get our mail saying it had been delivered?
Yes.
Then there you go.
A bit...
posted on 14/4/20
My understanding hamish is they voted, it wasn't received until later, they were upset at a club not voting, discovered it to be themselves and were going to resend but then found themselves in a strong position so withdrew that vote which was received and later their original too. They have now decided its a well thought out proposal after all.
posted on 14/4/20
comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 1 minute ago
I will be honest - I haven't really read much about this whole voting fiasco. It bores me to tears.
Can someone clarify what is supposed to have happened re Dundee?
Did they email in their vote and then ask for it not to be counted after they realised they were in a position to maybe force change more favourable to them?
And are the SPFL saying they never counted Dundees 'no' vote because they never officially 'received' the email because it went into a quarantine folder?
This is what I am surmising from this thread and the few snippets I have failed to avoid.
Tell me this is not what has happened!
Are people genuinely trying to say that because an email went into a quarantine folder that it wasn't formally submitted and received?
That's fookin comical if its true......
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Basically a lot of toys are being flung out the pram as the vote doesn't go the way some clubs wanted it to.
None of it actually gets us any closer to seeing football again.
posted on 14/4/20
comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 1 minute ago
I will be honest - I haven't really read much about this whole voting fiasco. It bores me to tears.
Can someone clarify what is supposed to have happened re Dundee?
Did they email in their vote and then ask for it not to be counted after they realised they were in a position to maybe force change more favourable to them?
And are the SPFL saying they never counted Dundees 'no' vote because they never officially 'received' the email because it went into a quarantine folder?
This is what I am surmising from this thread and the few snippets I have failed to avoid.
Tell me this is not what has happened!
Are people genuinely trying to say that because an email went into a quarantine folder that it wasn't formally submitted and received?
That's fookin comical if its true......
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, no. It has to be printed off and handed personally to Neil Doncaster to count 🤨
posted on 14/4/20
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 2 minutes ago
"I'm fair looking for ward to that two grand 65" OLED I ordered"
Great, that's a mail in saying it's been delivered to my house!
Get's home - Where's my fckn TV?
Ho, Amazon, wtf?
Did you get our mail saying it had been delivered?
Yes.
Then there you go.
A bit...
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yup, it’s exactly like that! Why do you guys persist in wasting your own time typing out an analogy that does not represent the point that is being discussed
posted on 14/4/20
comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 1 minute ago
I will be honest - I haven't really read much about this whole voting fiasco. It bores me to tears.
Can someone clarify what is supposed to have happened re Dundee?
Did they email in their vote and then ask for it not to be counted after they realised they were in a position to maybe force change more favourable to them?
And are the SPFL saying they never counted Dundees 'no' vote because they never officially 'received' the email because it went into a quarantine folder?
This is what I am surmising from this thread and the few snippets I have failed to avoid.
Tell me this is not what has happened!
Are people genuinely trying to say that because an email went into a quarantine folder that it wasn't formally submitted and received?
That's fookin comical if its true......
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don't think anyone knows yet? It was Dundee that surmised in the whatsapp about the junk email thing was it not?
With all these emails flying in just before 5 I can also surmise a scenario where the admin at the SPFL presses delete just as a new mail arrives shuttling the list order and the unread mail from Dundee goes straight into the bin without realising albeit it is recoverable. Think we've all done that?
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