Then they should have done better upto that point. With respect it’s a meaningless point. If you void the season now you prevent another future PL champion if we base this on random hypothetical things that could happen in the future.
There’s compromise and unfairness with all options, I think voiding it is more unfair than completing the season as it stands, if it is deemed impossible to complete the season.
Really glad we are so far clear, would be a lot worse if we won it with another club closer when it resumes. Will suck for the clubs relegated etc with 9 games being played under unfortunate circumstances.
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comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
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don't think it will. If this had happened in 2015, then Leicester would have been relegated using that basis!
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You would have relegated the future champions because they weren't allowed to play their full allocation of games.
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No they'd have been relegated as the team most deserving relegation over other teams.
The competition either needs to be completed or voided.
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What happens if its voided? What's the plan? We go back to last season's standings? That's ridiculous. What happens to clubs in promotion places? Take away hundreds of millions from them after all that work?
If the season is voided they should compensate all clubs for their time, wages and expenses incurred this season. Putting in hundreds of millions into a promotion push only for it to be voided is more unfair than relegating Leicester City.
Bottomline is we can't reward teams that don't deserve it. Better off to call the leagues as is and then sort out the one or two remaining issues IMO. This is the option that will lead to less lawsuits.
if its ended as it stands, because some have played less than others, i assume they will take every clubs points per game and add that for each game they have left to give each team a final points tally. which will probably end with a .something which will be weird, but as fair as theyll be able to get it. i think a team would be relegated by 0.1 points in this scenario.
Breaking:
All games across the Championship, League One and League Two are set to be broadcast live on television or online after the English Football League confirmed matches are almost certain to resume behind closed doors.
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/football-league/football-league-championship-return-behind-closed-doors-tv-stream-online-a9470056.html
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posted 18 minutes ago
Breaking:
All games across the Championship, League One and League Two are set to be broadcast live on television or online after the English Football League confirmed matches are almost certain to resume behind closed doors.
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/football-league/football-league-championship-return-behind-closed-doors-tv-stream-online-a9470056.html
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Bye bye Leagues one and two 👋
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posted 18 minutes ago
Breaking:
All games across the Championship, League One and League Two are set to be broadcast live on television or online after the English Football League confirmed matches are almost certain to resume behind closed doors.
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/football-league/football-league-championship-return-behind-closed-doors-tv-stream-online-a9470056.html
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Bye bye Leagues one and two 👋
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Nah. Packages will be put together over the next couple of years to offset this.
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So all of a sudden these clubs who've been shunned by the PL down the years, who probably look fearfully at the likes of Stockport, Boston, Halifax, Bury as examples of how little of a sh-t the greedy, cash rich league cares about the future of the wider football community...are they meant to now just believe that anything is going to change for the better? What exactly should they be basing their hope on? Any past examples of game changing amounts of money being handed down and shared fairly through the leagues?
Like the majority of lower league football fans, I'll believe it when it happens.
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comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 18 minutes ago
Breaking:
All games across the Championship, League One and League Two are set to be broadcast live on television or online after the English Football League confirmed matches are almost certain to resume behind closed doors.
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/football-league/football-league-championship-return-behind-closed-doors-tv-stream-online-a9470056.html
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Bye bye Leagues one and two 👋
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Nah. Packages will be put together over the next couple of years to offset this.
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So all of a sudden these clubs who've been shunned by the PL down the years, who probably look fearfully at the likes of Stockport, Boston, Halifax, Bury as examples of how little of a sh-t the greedy, cash rich league cares about the future of the wider football community...are they meant to now just believe that anything is going to change for the better? What exactly should they be basing their hope on? Any past examples of game changing amounts of money being handed down and shared fairly through the leagues?
Like the majority of lower league football fans, I'll believe it when it happens.
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No examples equate to this. In the past clubs have been mismanaged which has led to their downfall. Why should Prem clubs come in and save them? This is different.
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I'm not saying they should have been given bail outs. I'm saying the general distribution of funds within the game have never been fair. Premier League clubs can and will pay a player more in a week than the amount the Inland Revenue will wind a non league club up for.
And those clubs I listed were not financially mismanaged as such. None of them (with the exception of Bury who had a feckless tosspot in charge) went out on crazy spending sprees or anything like that. Most just can't cope with the financial demands such as rent for their ground, policing costs, etc, and just get swallowed up by running costs. These clubs lose most of their potential local fanbase to the bigger clubs as people seem far happier to support a team through a TV subscription than actually help out their hometown club. People can support who they want and spend on what they want, it's a free country, but these same people tend to be the ones who then say how sad it is that x or y club have gone to the wall. I've been on many away days to clubs who seem on the outside to be doing ok, then you get there and all around the ground there are volunteers shaking buckets and you realise just how hard these clubs have it.
It is what it is, but when you see a lazy tw-t like Mesut Ozil put in another half-assed performance that nets him £300k for 90mins "work", whilst some 85 year old lifelong season ticket holder at Exeter sits in his seat not even sure that his club will be there in 12 months time, you start to realise how unfair and hideously unbalanced the whole thing is.
And as I say, nobody ever pretends to give a sh-t until it's far too late.
Sandy, in response to your on-field problems with distancing between players, do you think football could be played in Hasmet suits?
Afterall, American football is already played in protection gear that is not too far removed from that. But of course, they only play in 30 second bursts with 5 mins rest in between!
Since Hasmet suits are cumbersome, perhaps the rules could be changed to allow 15 players per side?
Just a thought ...
Just get all footballers to where a face mask, problem solved...
Everyone saying closed doors isn't football...ffs get a grip. It's through necessity and tbh I'd love nothing more than ANY half decent game to watch atm.
We are talking about an age where a gay guy with a mullet and a few tigers has taken the globe by storm...
P.'s f*ck Carol Baskins
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posted on 17/4/20
Then they should have done better upto that point. With respect it’s a meaningless point. If you void the season now you prevent another future PL champion if we base this on random hypothetical things that could happen in the future.
There’s compromise and unfairness with all options, I think voiding it is more unfair than completing the season as it stands, if it is deemed impossible to complete the season.
posted on 17/4/20
Really glad we are so far clear, would be a lot worse if we won it with another club closer when it resumes. Will suck for the clubs relegated etc with 9 games being played under unfortunate circumstances.
posted on 17/4/20
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. (U7905)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 5 minutes ago
don't think it will. If this had happened in 2015, then Leicester would have been relegated using that basis!
—————-
And?
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You would have relegated the future champions because they weren't allowed to play their full allocation of games.
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No they'd have been relegated as the team most deserving relegation over other teams.
The competition either needs to be completed or voided.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What happens if its voided? What's the plan? We go back to last season's standings? That's ridiculous. What happens to clubs in promotion places? Take away hundreds of millions from them after all that work?
If the season is voided they should compensate all clubs for their time, wages and expenses incurred this season. Putting in hundreds of millions into a promotion push only for it to be voided is more unfair than relegating Leicester City.
Bottomline is we can't reward teams that don't deserve it. Better off to call the leagues as is and then sort out the one or two remaining issues IMO. This is the option that will lead to less lawsuits.
posted on 17/4/20
if its ended as it stands, because some have played less than others, i assume they will take every clubs points per game and add that for each game they have left to give each team a final points tally. which will probably end with a .something which will be weird, but as fair as theyll be able to get it. i think a team would be relegated by 0.1 points in this scenario.
posted on 17/4/20
Breaking:
All games across the Championship, League One and League Two are set to be broadcast live on television or online after the English Football League confirmed matches are almost certain to resume behind closed doors.
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/football-league/football-league-championship-return-behind-closed-doors-tv-stream-online-a9470056.html
posted on 17/4/20
comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 18 minutes ago
Breaking:
All games across the Championship, League One and League Two are set to be broadcast live on television or online after the English Football League confirmed matches are almost certain to resume behind closed doors.
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/football-league/football-league-championship-return-behind-closed-doors-tv-stream-online-a9470056.html
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Bye bye Leagues one and two 👋
posted on 17/4/20
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posted on 17/4/20
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 4 hours, 23 minutes ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 18 minutes ago
Breaking:
All games across the Championship, League One and League Two are set to be broadcast live on television or online after the English Football League confirmed matches are almost certain to resume behind closed doors.
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/football-league/football-league-championship-return-behind-closed-doors-tv-stream-online-a9470056.html
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Bye bye Leagues one and two 👋
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Nah. Packages will be put together over the next couple of years to offset this.
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So all of a sudden these clubs who've been shunned by the PL down the years, who probably look fearfully at the likes of Stockport, Boston, Halifax, Bury as examples of how little of a sh-t the greedy, cash rich league cares about the future of the wider football community...are they meant to now just believe that anything is going to change for the better? What exactly should they be basing their hope on? Any past examples of game changing amounts of money being handed down and shared fairly through the leagues?
Like the majority of lower league football fans, I'll believe it when it happens.
posted on 17/4/20
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posted on 17/4/20
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 53 minutes ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 4 hours, 23 minutes ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 18 minutes ago
Breaking:
All games across the Championship, League One and League Two are set to be broadcast live on television or online after the English Football League confirmed matches are almost certain to resume behind closed doors.
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/football-league/football-league-championship-return-behind-closed-doors-tv-stream-online-a9470056.html
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Bye bye Leagues one and two 👋
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Nah. Packages will be put together over the next couple of years to offset this.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So all of a sudden these clubs who've been shunned by the PL down the years, who probably look fearfully at the likes of Stockport, Boston, Halifax, Bury as examples of how little of a sh-t the greedy, cash rich league cares about the future of the wider football community...are they meant to now just believe that anything is going to change for the better? What exactly should they be basing their hope on? Any past examples of game changing amounts of money being handed down and shared fairly through the leagues?
Like the majority of lower league football fans, I'll believe it when it happens.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No examples equate to this. In the past clubs have been mismanaged which has led to their downfall. Why should Prem clubs come in and save them? This is different.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm not saying they should have been given bail outs. I'm saying the general distribution of funds within the game have never been fair. Premier League clubs can and will pay a player more in a week than the amount the Inland Revenue will wind a non league club up for.
And those clubs I listed were not financially mismanaged as such. None of them (with the exception of Bury who had a feckless tosspot in charge) went out on crazy spending sprees or anything like that. Most just can't cope with the financial demands such as rent for their ground, policing costs, etc, and just get swallowed up by running costs. These clubs lose most of their potential local fanbase to the bigger clubs as people seem far happier to support a team through a TV subscription than actually help out their hometown club. People can support who they want and spend on what they want, it's a free country, but these same people tend to be the ones who then say how sad it is that x or y club have gone to the wall. I've been on many away days to clubs who seem on the outside to be doing ok, then you get there and all around the ground there are volunteers shaking buckets and you realise just how hard these clubs have it.
It is what it is, but when you see a lazy tw-t like Mesut Ozil put in another half-assed performance that nets him £300k for 90mins "work", whilst some 85 year old lifelong season ticket holder at Exeter sits in his seat not even sure that his club will be there in 12 months time, you start to realise how unfair and hideously unbalanced the whole thing is.
And as I say, nobody ever pretends to give a sh-t until it's far too late.
posted on 17/4/20
Sandy, in response to your on-field problems with distancing between players, do you think football could be played in Hasmet suits?
Afterall, American football is already played in protection gear that is not too far removed from that. But of course, they only play in 30 second bursts with 5 mins rest in between!
Since Hasmet suits are cumbersome, perhaps the rules could be changed to allow 15 players per side?
Just a thought ...
posted on 18/4/20
Just get all footballers to where a face mask, problem solved...
posted on 18/4/20
Everyone saying closed doors isn't football...ffs get a grip. It's through necessity and tbh I'd love nothing more than ANY half decent game to watch atm.
We are talking about an age where a gay guy with a mullet and a few tigers has taken the globe by storm...
P.'s f*ck Carol Baskins
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