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'A Dossier of Evidence'

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comment by Tully1 (U20686)

posted on 26/4/20

The SPFL asked for the 'evidence' of corruption mmediately Rangers made their accusations. That unfortunately has not been forthcoming.

Serious question: if Rangers really want an inquiry what have they got to lose by presenting their 'evidence' as requested?

posted on 26/4/20

comment by Tully 1 (U20686)
posted 6 minutes ago
The SPFL asked for the 'evidence' of corruption mmediately Rangers made their accusations. That unfortunately has not been forthcoming.

Serious question: if Rangers really want an inquiry what have they got to lose by presenting their 'evidence' as requested?
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Who knows - but no doubt you will post yet another article saying 'Show us 'ra evidence'.

posted on 26/4/20

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comment by (U22371)

posted on 26/4/20

comment by Tully 1 (U20686)
posted 8 minutes ago
The SPFL asked for the 'evidence' of corruption mmediately Rangers made their accusations. That unfortunately has not been forthcoming.

Serious question: if Rangers really want an inquiry what have they got to lose by presenting their 'evidence' as requested?
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Serious question : why are you conflating this with the issue of alleged tampering of Alfredos car?

posted on 26/4/20

Serious question: if Rangers really want an inquiry what have they got to lose by presenting their 'evidence' as requested?


I don't know....Exciting isn't it

posted on 26/4/20

By insisting that heads (3?) should roll before presenting their 'evidence' , they are creating barriers to the inquiry which will not be breached.

Certainly if deliberate misconduct is proven heads should roll. You don't act as judge and jury before a case is even heard.

Doncaster, Blair and possibly somebody else they want hung drawn and quartered before anything happens.

"Unbelievable Jeff"

posted on 26/4/20

comment by Izzy... Thanks for the memories (U3410)
posted 50 seconds ago
By insisting that heads (3?) should roll before presenting their 'evidence' , they are creating barriers to the inquiry which will not be breached.

Certainly if deliberate misconduct is proven heads should roll. You don't act as judge and jury before a case is even heard.

Doncaster, Blair and possibly somebody else they want hung drawn and quartered before anything happens.

"Unbelievable Jeff"
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Aye bit Rangers arra peepul

posted on 26/4/20

comment by MaHeed'sNippin aka I’m the competent Wullie Collum (U3633)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Izzy... Thanks for the memories (U3410)
posted 50 seconds ago
By insisting that heads (3?) should roll before presenting their 'evidence' , they are creating barriers to the inquiry which will not be breached.

Certainly if deliberate misconduct is proven heads should roll. You don't act as judge and jury before a case is even heard.

Doncaster, Blair and possibly somebody else they want hung drawn and quartered before anything happens.

"Unbelievable Jeff"
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Aye bit Rangers arra peepul
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Whereas you are the most unfunny person I have (haven't) had the misfortune to meet.

comment by Tully1 (U20686)

posted on 26/4/20

comment by * (U22266)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by Tully 1 (U20686)
posted 6 minutes ago
The SPFL asked for the 'evidence' of corruption mmediately Rangers made their accusations. That unfortunately has not been forthcoming.

Serious question: if Rangers really want an inquiry what have they got to lose by presenting their 'evidence' as requested?
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Who knows - but no doubt you will post yet another article saying 'Show us 'ra evidence'.
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Seems reasonable though. If there is corruption it needs to be rooted out and everyone agrees with that. But really, you cannot expect any organisation to set up and meet the costs of an external/independent investigation and suspend members of staff on full pay because somebody 'claims to have evidence'.but refuses to share it. If Rangers have 'evidence' then they really need to produce it if they are to be taken seriously.

posted on 26/4/20

comment by Tully 1 (U20686)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by * (U22266)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by Tully 1 (U20686)
posted 6 minutes ago
The SPFL asked for the 'evidence' of corruption mmediately Rangers made their accusations. That unfortunately has not been forthcoming.

Serious question: if Rangers really want an inquiry what have they got to lose by presenting their 'evidence' as requested?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Who knows - but no doubt you will post yet another article saying 'Show us 'ra evidence'.
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Seems reasonable though. If there is corruption it needs to be rooted out and everyone agrees with that. But really, you cannot expect any organisation to set up and meet the costs of an external/independent investigation and suspend members of staff on full pay because somebody 'claims to have evidence'.but refuses to share it. If Rangers have 'evidence' then they really need to produce it if they are to be taken seriously.
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At least your wording this time is a bit better.

But, again - for someone who is happy with the 'dignified silence' of their own club - you don't half make a song and dance about something which in your own words 'is between Rangers and the SPFL'.

comment by (U22371)

posted on 26/4/20

comment by Tully 1 (U20686)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by * (U22266)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by Tully 1 (U20686)
posted 6 minutes ago
The SPFL asked for the 'evidence' of corruption mmediately Rangers made their accusations. That unfortunately has not been forthcoming.

Serious question: if Rangers really want an inquiry what have they got to lose by presenting their 'evidence' as requested?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Who knows - but no doubt you will post yet another article saying 'Show us 'ra evidence'.
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Seems reasonable though. If there is corruption it needs to be rooted out and everyone agrees with that. But really, you cannot expect any organisation to set up and meet the costs of an external/independent investigation and suspend members of staff on full pay because somebody 'claims to have evidence'.but refuses to share it. If Rangers have 'evidence' then they really need to produce it if they are to be taken seriously.
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So why were you conflating this with the alleged tampering of alfredos car?!

posted on 26/4/20

😂 The U boats are still around! <yiles> Time for the release of the mines 👍

posted on 26/4/20

*

posted on 26/4/20

But it’s not just between Rangers and the SPFL is it?

They supposedly have other clubs backing in this and they want an EGM which involves all the clubs. They want this to be a deep search into alleged misgivings and with that the immediate suspension of senior officers and their legal advisors.

That also affects every single club in the country.

There’s a bit of me that thinks that Rangers know they are asking for something so completely unreasonable that no single entity in the world would entertain and they also know they and the SPFL don’t have the time or the finances to do this with.

Therefore their “request” is rightfully denied and they can sit back and insinuate anything and everything which to their support vindicates what they’ve always wanted to believe.

Job done. No cost. A lot of mud flinging and an enemy that isn’t allowed to defend itself.

Sound about right?

comment by (U22371)

posted on 26/4/20

comment by MaHeed'sNippin aka I’m the competent Wullie Collum (U3633)
posted 2 minutes ago
😂 The U boats are still around! <yiles> Time for the release of the mines 👍
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Do you use laughing smileys as some sort of show of irony as you are genuinely one of the least funny people I have ever had the misfortune to come across!! Were you dropped on your head at some point!

posted on 26/4/20

Oh oh more U boats!

comment by Tully1 (U20686)

posted on 26/4/20

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 41 minutes ago
But it’s not just between Rangers and the SPFL is it?

They supposedly have other clubs backing in this and they want an EGM which involves all the clubs. They want this to be a deep search into alleged misgivings and with that the immediate suspension of senior officers and their legal advisors.

That also affects every single club in the country.

There’s a bit of me that thinks that Rangers know they are asking for something so completely unreasonable that no single entity in the world would entertain and they also know they and the SPFL don’t have the time or the finances to do this with.

Therefore their “request” is rightfully denied and they can sit back and insinuate anything and everything which to their support vindicates what they’ve always wanted to believe.

Job done. No cost. A lot of mud flinging and an enemy that isn’t allowed to defend itself.

Sound about right?
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Ginger is quite correct of course, this now affects every club because Rangers have widened their accusations and their demands. I've seen cost estimates (on a Rangers board) of £500k + for a full independent inquiry.

It seems to me that if, and I do mean if, Rangers were serious then they would A) produce their 'evidence' make a compelling initial case, get other clubs onside and get their inquiry, or B) offer to underwrite the costs of an inquiry and if they are right SPFL pay and if they are wrong Rangers pay.

Time to move this forward and there are two constructive suggestions.

posted on 26/4/20

Constructive and sensible? wtf

That'll never work 😂👍

comment by (U22371)

posted on 26/4/20

comment by Tully 1 (U20686)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 41 minutes ago
But it’s not just between Rangers and the SPFL is it?

They supposedly have other clubs backing in this and they want an EGM which involves all the clubs. They want this to be a deep search into alleged misgivings and with that the immediate suspension of senior officers and their legal advisors.

That also affects every single club in the country.

There’s a bit of me that thinks that Rangers know they are asking for something so completely unreasonable that no single entity in the world would entertain and they also know they and the SPFL don’t have the time or the finances to do this with.

Therefore their “request” is rightfully denied and they can sit back and insinuate anything and everything which to their support vindicates what they’ve always wanted to believe.

Job done. No cost. A lot of mud flinging and an enemy that isn’t allowed to defend itself.

Sound about right?
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Ginger is quite correct of course, this now affects every club because Rangers have widened their accusations and their demands. I've seen cost estimates (on a Rangers board) of £500k + for a full independent inquiry.

It seems to me that if, and I do mean if, Rangers were serious then they would A) produce their 'evidence' make a compelling initial case, get other clubs onside and get their inquiry, or B) offer to underwrite the costs of an inquiry and if they are right SPFL pay and if they are wrong Rangers pay.

Time to move this forward and there are two constructive suggestions.
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So why conflate this with the allegations of tampering with Alfredo’s car?!

posted on 26/4/20

comment by MaHeed'sNippin aka I’m the competent Wullie Collum (U3633)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
😂 The U boats are still around! <yiles> Time for the release of the mines 👍
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Are there U-Boats off the coast of Lanzagrotty?

Or are they mobility scooters dumped in the sea by pissed-up Brits abroad?

comment by Tully1 (U20686)

posted on 26/4/20

According to newspaper reports this evening Rangers "will provide evidence to member clubs well in advance of the EGM".

Good. Hopefully that will get leaked quickly and we can all set it.

comment by Tully1 (U20686)

posted on 26/4/20

*see it*

comment by Tully1 (U20686)

posted on 26/4/20

Nearly at 200 think I'll do TMQ.

comment by Tully1 (U20686)

posted on 26/4/20

Smoking gun or same ould keech?

comment by Tully1 (U20686)

posted on 26/4/20

Two hunner.

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