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posted on 2/5/20

As ive also stated many a time. The situation with liverpool is almost one of the most irrelevant there is out there. We will be champions 1 way or another. Whether its played out or not. I have no doubts on that either, and i couldnt give a bakers fluck if theres an asterisk next to it, opposition fans can cling to that all they like.

The bigger issues are european places and relegation. They are still up for grabs. Something will be done to sort these 1 way or the other. The neutral venues (if safe to do so) is the most fair option as every team is in the exact same boat. And if they have a moan or gripe, then its their own fault for not being better positioned in the 28 games that they have played.

posted on 2/5/20

comment by LoneWolf - Rebel Without A Cause (U22026)
posted 4 hours, 54 minutes ago
The current situation isn’t fair on anybody.
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I think those that have the most to lose (which is probably best defined in a financial way, which is clearly about staying in this league) have to be the priority in the thinking.

Wolves missing out on Europa for example is nothing compared to Brighton going down where the requirement to play games at neutral venues materially affects their chances of survival.

posted on 2/5/20

Instead of being influenced by Sky, BT and a handful of club owners, why not have a secret ballot of the players, backroom staff and officals who would actually be involved?

posted on 2/5/20

comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by RB&W "PPE for NHS heroes" (U21434)
posted 1 minute ago
These are exceptional times. Facts are teams have had 29 (or 28) opportunities to get their sheet together. Temas are just going to have to put their big boy pants on now and get on with it because unfortunately behind close doors and neutral venues will be the norm for quite some time.
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An example of why we must give a trophy to Liverpool so we can stop even debating the idea of restarting football right now.
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You do realise that it is the PL, EFL, FA and government discussing restarting the season don't you, and not merely Liverpool fans?
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You mean this loon has ignored something his dear leader Boris (the idiot down south not the one on here) is doing?

This shocks me after his daily love letters to him on here.

posted on 2/5/20

If it’s completed and the championship isn’t then it’s litigation

If it’s not completed and the championship isn’t it’s litigation

If they’re both completed at neutral venues it’s litigation

If it cannot be completed as it set out when it started then it’s null and void. It’s not the same competition.

Give Liverpool the title* as England’s first ever honorary PL champions, but good luck sorting through all the promotions and relegations up and down the football league.

Closed doors, neutral venues....like completing the last few stages of the Tour de France through the Yorkshire dales. Yeah we cycled the same distance....it’s the same right?!

posted on 2/5/20

You mean this loon has ignored something his dear leader Boris (the idiot down south not the one on here) is doing?
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Maybe your man Boris (not Binky) is a Liverpool fan?

posted on 2/5/20

Maybe the Tour de France could be staged using exercise bikes in a gym.

posted on 2/5/20


Maybe the Tour de France could be staged using exercise bikes in a gym.
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they could run a video of the French countryside behind them, too.

posted on 2/5/20

comment by Mellor, Lovely Cushioned Header, FOR GERRARD, ... (U1859)
posted 22 seconds ago
As ive also stated many a time. The situation with liverpool is almost one of the most irrelevant there is out there. We will be champions 1 way or another. Whether its played out or not. I have no doubts on that either, and i couldnt give a bakers fluck if theres an asterisk next to it, opposition fans can cling to that all they like.

The bigger issues are european places and relegation. They are still up for grabs. Something will be done to sort these 1 way or the other. The neutral venues (if safe to do so) is the most fair option as every team is in the exact same boat. And if they have a moan or gripe, then its their own fault for not being better positioned in the 28 games that they have played.
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Every team is not in the same boat. Villa have 6/10 games at home.

Spurs have 5/9 at home inc. Arsenal Utd Everton Leicester & West Ham. Three of those are massive games which have an impact on our season. Arsenal United and Leicester have had the benefit of the home fixture in these tough ties. That is an advantage to them as we all compete for the same places in the league.

If you compare it to United, they have no Big home games left. In fact they should be playing SPurs and Leicester away but now play them in a neutral ground. These are their toughest fixtures just made easier. Spurs biggest fixtures have just been made harder.

The same is the case for other teams in even bigger and potentially more costly situations.

So no, it's not 'every team are in the same boat' when you break it down.

posted on 2/5/20

If teams have 8 games left and they are disadvantaged by losing out on 4 home games but advantaged by playing 4 away games in front of no fans and their intention is to sue to the premier league during a time where the world dealt with an unprecedented catastrophe and found a solution to have things played out to a conclusion whilst doing their upmost to ensure the safety of the general public and also making sure all clubs received the money set by tv companies which ultimately keeps them afloat.


Good luck with that.

posted on 2/5/20

Given the uproar about relegation and promotion, that affects everyone equally in the pyramid, so whatever is decided the whole league has to have the same outcome enforced.

We naturally focus on the PL/championship bit but same applies to each league

posted on 2/5/20

Government want football back to make swallowing lockdown easier with TV to distract

PL & FA want it back to make sure they get the cash

Certain teams & fans (I even saw Liverpool FC criticising their own mayor who said the season should be abandoned) want it back to finish what was going to be a successful season

Rest of us, think realistically and know this is done and we just need to figure out best way to finalize results

posted on 2/5/20

comment by Striketeam7 (U18109)
posted 44 minutes ago
Love the Liverpool fans certainty at no null and void - we are edging closer to it each day. This whole the clubs remain committed to finishing the season sounds nice - but as soon as these clubs actually see what will have to happen to finish it I.e. neutral venues, well I expect the vote will turn out significantly different to the party line.

If the majority decide to null and void then by definition alone this will be the least problematic and litigious solution
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Yep, null and void is by far the fairest solution for the vast majority. Only a handful of clubs will be against this, those looking likely to achieve something.

The majority of clubs at this stage of the season have little to play for other than pride, most are safe from relegation and have little chance of promotion. The players at these clubs (if they had a choice) would vote to void, so they don`t have to take the unnecessary risk of playing games of football.

The season could restart in neutral venues or wherever, and the players at mid table clubs would just be going through the motions, they would not want to really be there and this could reflect in their performances.

None of this can retain integrity of the competition, and changing the rules part way through a season renders it wrongful and unethical.

Obviously, all this is complete desperation on behalf of the money men who are pushing it. The season is no longer right and proper, so why even consider taking nonessential and avoidable risks just to keep the minority happy.

posted on 2/5/20

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Mellor, Lovely Cushioned Header, FOR GERRARD, ... (U1859)
posted 22 seconds ago
As ive also stated many a time. The situation with liverpool is almost one of the most irrelevant there is out there. We will be champions 1 way or another. Whether its played out or not. I have no doubts on that either, and i couldnt give a bakers fluck if theres an asterisk next to it, opposition fans can cling to that all they like.

The bigger issues are european places and relegation. They are still up for grabs. Something will be done to sort these 1 way or the other. The neutral venues (if safe to do so) is the most fair option as every team is in the exact same boat. And if they have a moan or gripe, then its their own fault for not being better positioned in the 28 games that they have played.
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Every team is not in the same boat. Villa have 6/10 games at home.

Spurs have 5/9 at home inc. Arsenal Utd Everton Leicester & West Ham. Three of those are massive games which have an impact on our season. Arsenal United and Leicester have had the benefit of the home fixture in these tough ties. That is an advantage to them as we all compete for the same places in the league.

If you compare it to United, they have no Big home games left. In fact they should be playing SPurs and Leicester away but now play them in a neutral ground. These are their toughest fixtures just made easier. Spurs biggest fixtures have just been made harder.

The same is the case for other teams in even bigger and potentially more costly situations.

So no, it's not 'every team are in the same boat' when you break it down.


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Il give you the villa one 6 at home fair enough, slightly disadvantaged in comparison to others.

Not having the other argument though that games are tougher than others so thats unfair. Its the final stretch of the season, every game is huge mo matter who you play. We routinely see teams down the bottom pick up big scalps at this time of the year against so called tougher opposition because its all on the line.

There are 9 or 10 games left. They are all cup finals. So if they are all at neutral grounds whilst not ideal its as fair as your going to get.

And as i said earlier. If this is the way we are going what about next season. If 20 games are played behind closed doors then its all good for fans to return, would you say no because its unfair?

posted on 2/5/20

“ Certain teams & fans (I even saw Liverpool FC criticising their own mayor who said the season should be abandoned) want it back to finish what was going to be a successful season”

What’s the problem with this?

He shouldn’t have opened his gob in the first place. He’s been saying one thing to the club, then that in the press. Plus he’s a blueshite so should keep his beak out

posted on 2/5/20

comment by RB&W "PPE for NHS heroes" (U21434)
posted 9 minutes ago

Maybe the Tour de France could be staged using exercise bikes in a gym.
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they could run a video of the French countryside behind them, too.
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Look at these poor desperate fools. Bless

posted on 2/5/20

comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 39 minutes ago
If the PL actually force teams to play at neutral venues they literally make the Rules of a season illegitimate:

Each Club shall play two League Matches against each other Club each Season, being the Home Club in respect of one such League Match and the Visiting Club in respect of the other.
C.2.
The winner of a League Match shall score three points. Each Club participating in a League Match which is drawn shall score one point.
C.3.
The results of League Matches shall be recorded by the Board in a table containing, in respect of each Club, the following information:
C.3.1. the number of League Matches played in that Season;
C.3.2. the number of League Matches won, drawn and lost as a Home Club in that Season;
C.3.3. the number of League Matches won, drawn and lost as a Visiting Club in that Season;
C.3.4. the number of goals scored in League Matches by and against that Club in that Season; and
C.3.5. the number of points scored in that Season.
C.4.
The position of Clubs in the table shall be determined by the number of points scored in that Season, the Club having scored the highest number of points being at the top of the table and the Club having scored the lowest number of points being at the bottom.

So in reality if the above conditions aren’t met then the rules the teams signed up for before kick off are null and void

Can you actually give Liverpool a trophy for a competition which broke its own rules?
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I`ve been saying this since the day it was suspended.

The Mousers (and Don) just don`t get it, they are either stupid or in complete denial.

posted on 2/5/20

He shouldn’t have opened his gob in the first place. He’s been saying one thing to the club, then that in the press. Plus he’s a blueshite so should keep his beak out
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He's an elected Mayor, it's what the people voted for.

posted on 2/5/20

comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RB&W "PPE for NHS heroes" (U21434)
posted 9 minutes ago

Maybe the Tour de France could be staged using exercise bikes in a gym.
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they could run a video of the French countryside behind them, too.
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Look at these poor desperate fools. Bless
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Interesting that all these desperate fools seem to come from all the other teams’ fans but the enlightened ones all seem to come from a certain team fan base

posted on 2/5/20

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 48 seconds ago
He shouldn’t have opened his gob in the first place. He’s been saying one thing to the club, then that in the press. Plus he’s a blueshite so should keep his beak out
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He's an elected Mayor, it's what the people voted for.
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Chippytits is as impartial as Billy and yourself

posted on 2/5/20

comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RB&W "PPE for NHS heroes" (U21434)
posted 9 minutes ago

Maybe the Tour de France could be staged using exercise bikes in a gym.
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they could run a video of the French countryside behind them, too.
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Look at these poor desperate fools. Bless
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Interesting that all these desperate fools seem to come from all the other teams’ fans but the enlightened ones all seem to come from a certain team fan base
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Not at all. There’s been plenty of fans of other clubs that have said the league should not be voided.

posted on 2/5/20

comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RB&W "PPE for NHS heroes" (U21434)
posted 9 minutes ago

Maybe the Tour de France could be staged using exercise bikes in a gym.
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they could run a video of the French countryside behind them, too.
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Look at these poor desperate fools. Bless
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Interesting that all these desperate fools seem to come from all the other teams’ fans but the enlightened ones all seem to come from a certain team fan base
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It's not really interesting to be honest

comment by Shijiu (U22385)

posted on 2/5/20

comment by Mellor, Lovely Cushioned Header, FOR GERRARD, OOOOOOHHHHHH YAAAAAAA BEEEUUUTTTYYYYY!!!!!!!!! (U1859)
posted 25 minutes ago
As ive also stated many a time. The situation with liverpool is almost one of the most irrelevant there is out there. We will be champions 1 way or another. Whether its played out or not. I have no doubts on that either, and i couldnt give a bakers fluck if theres an asterisk next to it, opposition fans can cling to that all they like.

The bigger issues are european places and relegation. They are still up for grabs. Something will be done to sort these 1 way or the other. The neutral venues (if safe to do so) is the most fair option as every team is in the exact same boat. And if they have a moan or gripe, then its their own fault for not being better positioned in the 28 games that they have played.
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Well said. I think that's the position of most of not all Liverpool fans.

posted on 2/5/20

Have a poll amongst all saeson ticket holders at all 20 clubs.

They actually are stakeholders but don't seem to have any sort of say in this.

posted on 2/5/20

We’ve all said you can have your trophy* but it’s not the same competition, that’s the point.

End it now give you the closest to the line trophy, relegate people who May of survived, promote people who may not of got promotion, award titles to teams who hadn’t mathematically won it

Or

Completely change the whole competition just to finish the GP column.

Whether it’s ended now with the current standings, or made null & void. To everyone it’s essentially null and void.

Can hear fans now, “you’d of never beat us at X”, “ we only got X because we had to play at Y” etc etc

It’s done

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